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Barbie turns 50, is she still fabulous?

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The iconic Barbie has celebrated her 50th birthday and she hasn't a grey hair or a wrinkle to bear. In light of this, we've asked Australian men to tell us what they think fits the ideal female beauty 'mould'. According to the boys, plastic does not equal fantastic. In fact, a big smile was donned sexier than a face caked in make-up and only 21% of men found Barbie's little bod appealing.

However, with more than one billion Barbie dolls sold in 150 countries, it seems the plastic has endured, so it must be fairly well received. So why has Barbie maintained indisputable popularity? Why do you think she has outlasted all the dolls who have tried to reign on her fashion parade? Now that she's 50, do you think Barbie is still fabulous? To have your say, you can also take part in the survey here.

Posted by Ellida March 30, 2009 3:15 PM

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18 months ago I was not only yellow, but really green in this activity. I made the mistake of replying, exchanged emails and phone numbers too quickly, was frightened by the tone of a phone call. I did not return a phone call. I received the nastiest, dirtiest and most vulgar emails thrice. I could not report it to RSVP as it was a private email. I deleted them all in shock. I wish I had not because I was later told by someone in authority that it can be an offence under the law, and if need be the service provider can be supoenaed to provide the evidence if it happens again. I am also told that they can plead insanity :(

Posted by: jrtx38 at September 18, 2011 1:53 PM

Okay, I have a confession. When I first joined, shy and uninitiated I didn't always respond straight away. I would get emails from RSVP chastising me "it's rude not to respond", etc. My intention was to respond I just wasn't sure how to....then. If I was getting those emails, everyone must at some stage so come on people, you must be here for similar reasons. Get with the programme.

M xxx

Posted by: margie284 at July 15, 2011 2:57 PM

Hi Bigman, wasn't saying you had done anything wrong, it was when you were very new. If you read between the lines I did name him (not on RSVP at the moment - that I know of anyway). If he was I would do everything I could to warn others - particularly those in Perth. He is a good looking, very 'caring', says everything right, does everything right until he doesn't get his own way (in my case he wanted me to borrow a considerable amount of money so he could start a business. When the answer was no the entire facade vanished) He had no collateral because, to quote him "II don't want the responsibility of a house". He was too busy bragging he was such a 'guy', riding motorbikes, diving, flying and all the other 'guy' things.

Absolutely adore your perspectives(don't always agree) TBM, (where is TT we haven't heard from him for a while) and as for fewer topics, only suggested that as I am finding I'm missing them when there are more than two topics posted on. Sad we had to wait till 1300hrs to have yesterdays put up, like you Big Man, too much time on my hands at the moment and have waited all morning, come on RSVP.

Have a nice weekend everyone and hopefully there will be lots to read on Monday (early).

P.S Hope I haven't upset anyone this post

Posted by: whateveritmeans at July 15, 2011 1:49 PM

Hi margie, I've read your blog comments and you make a good point re mature men and their whereabouts! However, I could actually say the same about women although that's more to do with courtesy, honesty and integrity than maturity.

It's been quite revealing how many women, once contacted, basically blow you off immediately. I send a "would you be interested" kiss and receive a positive reply, "yes I'm interested, can't wait for the email" or something similar. You have probably done the same already if you're interested in the fella sending the kiss. Then, after I send an email with a bit more info about me that's not in my profile, nothing happens. The email is read but no reply! On a number of occasions I've sent further emails and get the same result, read but no reply. Or, after 1 or 2 emails from me, the contact goes Inactive! What's that all about? Common courtesy indicates you should at least reply, even if the reply is to say, "listen I've re-read your profile and I don't think we really are a match, sorry if you feel like you've wasted a stamp".
I know I've commented on this before but it's becoming more and more annoying and frustrating the longer I am on RSVP. I know I'm probably going to get bombarded with comments from you ladies that this occurs to them also but surely RSVP can do something about this situation. I'll leave it up to my fellow bloggers to come up with some constructive suggestions. Over to you, girls!

Posted by: thebigman9 at July 15, 2011 10:30 AM

Hi whateveritmeans, the bigman here. I must admit admit I was a bit taken back at your comment that I had named someone in one of my blogs but, after a while, I remembered that I had. Is that a no no? I mean, my profile name appears on the blog so it's no mystery who wrote it, I've used your name in this blog, many, many bloggers write comments about quite a few different articles and mention names in those. I don't see why you couldn't name the guy especially if there were problems that could act as a warning to others who may find him appealing. Maybe that's a no no but wouldn't the moderators let us know if we stepped over the line?
I don't agree that we should limit the number of blog topics. Whilst serial bloggers such as myself (too much time on my hands but a great way to become a little part in the lives of others) can flit from topic to topic and comment, it makes it so much more enjoyable as you get the privilege of reading what so many others are thinking.

Well said margie. I've yet to find any RSVP event for over 45-50yr olds. The only one I've been to was for O/25's and it was totally crap (to quote our erstwhile PM). I suspect RSVP is run by the U/30's!

Posted by: thebigman9 at July 15, 2011 10:20 AM

Just wanted to let virgosign (13/7/11) know that I happened upon a "Christmas In July" event on 16th in Sydney for 35(?) to 49 year olds!!!! Damn, missed out by 4wks and 6 days!!!! What happened to rounding up??

M xxx

Posted by: margie284 at July 13, 2011 11:13 PM

Margie284 - you are so right. I did have a relationship with a 50 something whose name was (I won't do as The Big Man did initially and completely name this person) similar to 'he was a guy all the time - basically as you said, this can later be used back at you. I must add I had had a relationship with him 30 years earlier although the end result was similar. Needless to say I find it very difficult to take seriously an adult man who calls himself ...........boy or similar and almost brags about the fact he has not yet grown up. Hope everyone is having a good day and OH IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER IF THERE WAS JUST ONE BLOG. Everyone goes off topic a little at times so if there was only a limited number perhaps as suggested by other bloggers last week, we would not miss out on some and everyone could just join in. Hey RSVP a lot of us stay on here for the blogs. Okay guys & girls I've put in my two cents worth. Bye for now

Posted by: whateveritmeans at July 13, 2011 4:13 PM

cobaltangel 3/6/11: A few men(?) I have known have revelled in the idea of NOT growing up and in their cases they seemed to think it also excused/absolved them from responsibility for any wrong-doing or 'mistake'. I have heard men say "I am a -beep-" (a-hole, etc) and laugh. This comment is meant for the same purpose as above because when the relationships ended the comment was "I told you I was a -beep-". It leaves me speechless, dumbfounded, I should have known I say to myself!

Where are all the mature men??? Yes, I do mean the ones who claim and embrace their carefree side whilst being grownups.

Regards
M xxx

Posted by: margie284 at July 13, 2011 11:58 AM

What a pity RSVP doesn't organise events for over 50's . maybe a Ken & Barbie night. I met a great guy 6 years ago at an event where everyone was given a character name at the door and had to find the matching character eg: Herman Munster had to find Lily Munster. And events don't have to be in the city! Why can't events be organised within interest groups?

Posted by: virgosign at June 13, 2011 3:47 PM

Barbie will always be fabulous, but only to little girls because she is the only grownup doll. Every little girl longs to grow up. But then when we do, we wonder why we ever aspired to be like Barbie, and realise Barbie has a charmed life because she has no worries - she doesn't even have to dress herself, much less pay bills. And then we long for the carefree days of girlhood and want to grow down. Men seem to bypass this nonsense, knowing deep down growing up 'ain't what it seems' so they fight it. Which makes more sense in our Fabulous Fifties than any other time, for we can claim and embrace our carefree side while still being grownups.

Posted by: cobaltangel at June 3, 2011 4:34 AM

Been awol for a bit and stuck my head in hoping for something new and wella.. This is a 2yr old topic!!!!. Surely we can come up with a few newies???? Liked your post by the way binary .. Welcome... :-()

Posted by: besondere at May 31, 2011 10:55 PM

Hello Fellow 50+'ers! I'm new to this but your post, amberlightrose, was intelligently written and most enlightening to read. I sure agree with all you have stated. In addition, we live in a society that truly does not embrace old age at all. I have noticed that in the work force, over 50's tend to be 'tolerated' and whilst I suppose I allow myself to react to insinuation, it doesn't exactly help the self image in the long run. I adore the European families who appear to embrace ALL ages and accept their aging relatives and friends warmly. Why is it that our society, spurred on by Gov attitudes, makes one feel somehow less beautiful or wonderful? I'm not an 'over the hill', ugly ol' chook yet I sit at the hairdressers with dye dripping all over the place, all the while tugging at the wrinkles and folds and wondering who stole my subcutaneous fat layers! Pegs...that's the answer. We can start new fashion. Peg back the folds and dry our washing at the same time! LOL

Posted by: binary0011 at May 30, 2011 6:42 PM

Agree completely Perth, Tonypandy and Whenharrymet me.
Our society is obsessed with how we look these days. I also agree that the pressure is much greater on women than men.
I think the difference is that we women are much more critical of ourselves; when we look in the mirror we see those wrinkles, the not so radiant skin, the flabby bits in the "wrong" places.
Society encourages us to feel bad about getting older.
And for those women who deep down think they have little else to offer other than their looks, they feel compelled to spend thousands to try to keep themselves looking young.

I honestly believe that for many men, this is not the case. While all too critical of their partner's or similarly-aged women's fading looks, when they themselves look in the mirror, they still see that young virile male in their 20s, looking back at them.
Which is why they think that they might just have a chance with someone many years younger.
I think they are probably just as insecure about getting older, it's just that they choose to deal with it by living in denial.
And just pretending they are not looking older!
We women on the other hand, tend to magnify every flaw we have!
And there is lots of money to be made by the thousands of "beauty" shops springing up all over the nation.
(Has anyone seen that truly offensive ad where a woman walks around with a paper bag over her head until she can get some 'help' at some beauty clinic? I mean what is that saying to older women?)

I think things will change eventually. There are so many cosmetic surgery 'disasters' now, where it is obvious that insecure people have been encouraged to go way too far by greedy cosmetic surgeons to ward off the ravages of age, (or in the case of younger people trying to make themselves look "celebrity-like") just making themselves look grotesque in the process.
And I think that it is also becoming very obvious that procedures like Botox only work for so long and sometimes after a few years, people look a lot worse for the experience!.
The focus seems now to be shifting to those who remain elegant and stylish and look good for their age, without going to extremes. Both men and women.

The thing that most of these people have in common is that they have remained interesting and vibrant WHOLE people first and foremost.
They are not self-obsessed.
They usualy still work, they keep active (not necessarily running marathons or becoming gym-junkies though!), they remain interested in society, they are still learning about life, they often volunteer and help those less fortunate.
They have a purpose in life.
It is this ENERGY that keeps them young in themselves and their attitude to life and so makes them appear younger than they really are.
The point is you can't 'bottle it' and sell it, it is just part of the life-force of that person.

I agree strongly with Perth, if we concentrated more on WHO we are and not on what we looked like or what we have materially, our society would be so much happier.
Most people would be far more contented and not have this huge emptiness in their lives.
The truth is you can't fill this emptiness with "things", (such as buying your good looks, flashy clothes, houses and cars) self-confidence and contentedness has to come from within.
And that usually only happens when we start looking outwards.


Posted by: amberlightrose at May 18, 2010 11:21 AM

Food for thought ladies...�iaminperth�, spot on re work required on personalities: too many dates who have nothing to say, and those who bring sex into the conversation 5 seconds after saying hi...re looks (exacerbated by the world obsession with �celebrity culture�?), should women be less concerned then, & men, more? Even it up a little?

Posted by: tonypandy at May 17, 2010 4:53 PM

tonypandy.....your post hit a chord with me, especially your comment "have seen many male profiles stating �you must be attractive� I seem to get those men sending me kisses..and yet they are far from attractive themselves. Their profiles come across as not having put much effort into writing it, they appear overweight,with bad teeth, or not quite divorced, and are seeking a woman over 40 who doesn't have children.!!! These men have unflattering photos....I just ignore them..I figure its not my responsibility to work out where they are coming from. I am sure they mean well, but in the end it is up to them to realise what they want VERSUS what they are offering themselves doesn't quite EQUATE

Posted by: whenharrymetme at May 15, 2010 7:53 AM

I think so many people have become so obsessed with how they look, they've forgotten who they are. once they open their mouths, the conversations always start with 'i'. They usually have no real interests unless it's about themselves, no hobbies as they have no time, or so they say and generally apart from a little eye candy they are boring, tedious and hard work.

Fair enough when it comes to exercise, makeup, hairdressers etc., and doing the best you can with who you are but when it comes to Botox, aaargh! and face lifts, oh god. The botoxed faces are becoming a joke and the face lifts and boob jobs laughable at times, or rather not laughable, very sad.

i think if people worked more on their personalities and interests it would show in their face and they would be far more desirable to the opposite sex. Someone glowing with health and vitality is automatically attractive in my opinion, not someone with a permanent shocked look on their face and continually fussing with their looks.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 14, 2010 6:20 PM

Just joined this group, read a lot of yr comments & agree with many, esp. some belonging to iaminperth. Barbie is still fabulous but the point is exactly that she IS plastic, not like you & me. I was on my way to blonde in a hair salon when i noticed one of the hairdressers red hair vibrant & just that bit different, & thats what i chose. At 51, i keep myself trim, taut & terrific & I enjoy looking good, though it does take time, money & effort. As a very, very fair skinned teen I grew up grieving over not having a tan, but because i stayed out of the sun (& thanks to some helpful genes) I now dont have a line on my face & my skin is as good as it was in my 20s...very fortunate. I hate wearing makeup keep it for interviews & special occasions only, but I think my photo is satisfactory at least you can see me clearly & how many guys on this site say they dont want glamour pics maybe .5 % really mean it, but excuse me if Im prone to a little cynicism on that point. I had a quick look at the ladies profiles & the sum total of good looks, knowledge, experience & wisdom is inspirational. I noted the general consensus that there is a male expectation that women keep themselves looking good. Have seen many male profiles stating you must be attractive, then do a double-take at many of the photos, & think who are you, to be demanding that, look at yourself. There ARE many nice, attractive men on the site, but there is also a staggering number of overweight & unattractive males, who obviously havent looked in a mirror in a long time but are expecting a size 6 blonde Barbie. Check out the flick, Something's Gotta Give (Jack Nicholson/Diane Keaton). The real dream girls are there in droves, guys.

Posted by: tonypandy at May 14, 2010 3:36 PM

connectedcanuck
i really dont know. I met a chap on this site. on the surface he seems perfectly wonderful. not unduly handsome not trim taut and terrific not sublimely romantic. Just lovely.

I think my problem (to offer you some insight into at least one womans mind) is that I cant believe my luck or that i feel he is too good to be true.

why do i think like this? long marriage ending in tears hasnt helped.
feeling old at last and carrying more weight than I want altho still sexy and cuddly.
the knowledge that others are still searching and i need to no longer

all of these things about me combined with his self assured confidence throws me into a spin.

silly me eh?

Posted by: sweetsixt at March 7, 2010 5:06 PM

Being over 50 is just fantastic - I know who I am, I don't have to listen to "you shouldn't do that at your age" - and I'm sexually adept and *interested* ....
I don't have to be a "pretty pretty Barbie" because I'm a real woman, with real skills, and the guts to get out there and DO IT.

Posted by: didelicious at January 23, 2010 11:49 AM

Because Barbie was raised by children she never learned the phrase "all men are the same, they only want one thing". Now that I am single again, I'm finding it diffifult to find an open minded woman on line who is willing to look at my real characteristics without the "all men are the same bias". How does one prove he is genuine, honest and sincere in an online search for a meaningful relationship?

Posted by: contentedcanuck at December 22, 2009 6:04 AM

Posted by: iaminperth at March 30, 2009 4:46 PM

wonderful speech.
Perhaps the paperbag theory would work here also. Then again perhaps a full body bag would be better.
At least Ken doll - Bless his plastic heart retained his shape and good looks. I wonder if you can get a Life size verson.

Posted by: notahothouseflower at November 16, 2009 10:55 PM

OH GOODY BARBIES RED FACED

Posted by: lustdancer at November 1, 2009 3:40 PM

OH WHAT THE HELL 50 x50 SLAPS

Posted by: onlymyking at October 10, 2009 6:31 PM

50 SLAPS

Posted by: onlymyking at October 10, 2009 12:45 AM

LOL life is fun Jennifer.... Hi, he says with a sparkle and twinkle in his eye.

Nothing went faster than the Buddy Express, and who said boy's couldn't play with Barbies..... Oh yeah, that is right, my mother and sister did.

Posted by: buddy383 at April 14, 2009 1:52 PM

That is funny Buddy.

That train set sounds like it was fun.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 14, 2009 10:10 AM

Thank you for your kindness amberlight58.

Very witty of you, I say with a smile.

Did Barbie survive or did Barbie become dismembered pieces scattered all over the shed?.... The answer to that question lies in how many firecrackers were used at the bridge. The good thing about Barbies though is a girl often has more than one, I looked at it this way, I blew up a few Barbies, and gave her back a Sussan?

Now what is a Sussan you may well ask? Well you know, this goes with that, this arm could now go with this body and that head could attach to that. I took away something lifeless and useless and gave her back a meccano set...... And couldn't she have fun with that.

LOL Hey, I think they wrote that old song about me.

Posted by: buddy383 at April 14, 2009 8:52 AM

Posted by: buddy383 at April 12, 2009 9:34 AM
Posted by: buddy383 at April 12, 2009 9:51 AM

Loved your comments Buddy. Poor Barbie, did she survive her train explosions or simply become dismembered Barbie?

Not sure Paper Bag Ken and Barbie would be big sellers, though.
Kind of reminds me of that old song "Nice Legs, Shame About The face!"

Posted by: amberlight58 at April 13, 2009 6:18 PM

However, with more than one billion Barbie dolls sold in 150 countries, it seems the plastic has endured, so it must be fairly well received. So why has Barbie maintained indisputable popularity?

Barbie is the creation of some very clever marketing. It works on the principal what do you buy a child who has everything. For girls the answer is simple, Barbie. Most girls of course wont play with them that often, generally just pull them out when they are bored or during sleep overs when group fantasy takes over. Not many children specifically requests Barbie dolls, parents just buy them, and they make an easy birthday gift for a birthday party which doesn't require much thinking.

Personally, I liked my sisters Barbie dolls. They made a terrific model to sit on my model train set. They went flying half way across the shed when you blew the bridge up with a heap of fire crackers (bungers) strategically positioned to the middle piers, just as the train and Barbie reached the middle of the bridge. Strange. My sister and mum never saw the fun in it.

Perhaps they could make a train Barbie?

Posted by: buddy383 at April 12, 2009 9:51 AM

“According to the boys, plastic does not equal fantastic. In fact, a big smile was donned sexier than a face caked in make-up and only 21% of men found Barbie's little bod appealing.”

Oww Wah…. And some men lie. Nine out of ten men would give Jennifer Hawkins a second look (smile or no smile) than they ever would have given Mamma Cass with the biggest smile on earth. Actions don’t always marry with words and actions speak louder than words.

There is a very good reason why cosmetics are a multi-billion dollar industry.

Now when I want to look my very best, I use the Ned Kelly method. I put a paper bag over my head and say, “Now use your imagination.” The difference between me being below average Joe and handsome and hot, is the amount of alcohol women have consumed. Some tell me I start looking really good about 2 in the morning and others say, “Better give me another bottle; there’s still room for improvement yet.” Others of course say there isn’t enough alcohol in the whole world to perform that sort of miracle; it would take some really serious divine intervention.

Perhaps they could make paper bag Barbie and Ken.

Posted by: buddy383 at April 12, 2009 9:34 AM

Love Broccolini, however you spell it! I think it is one of the nicest well presented veges ever. The taste is great as well. I think with veges it doesn't matter what you buy so long as it is totally fresh. If you can't get one particular vege there are loads more to choose from and so many different ways to cook then or just go au naturel. Love veges, could eat them all day. Laf Amway does the toilet roll thing and all the cleaning products and stuff, share with a friend of a neighbour. I can buy from a warehouse in WA but it is a bit of a hassle and I just go and get what I want when I need it. Must admit though, most is fresh and toilet rolls, cleaning and washing up stuff is dumped on my doorstep every couple of months from Amway. I don't sell, just use it myself but I don't have to cart from the shops, just need to get my fresh stuff couple of times a week, or more.

Posted by: iaminperth at April 9, 2009 10:44 AM

Online groceries ... would love that. The last time I investigated that here, we could only get 'dry goods' and only if we ordered in massive amounts. (where would I store 24 rolls of toilet paper?). Also, there is no to-your-door-after-work delivery. I'd have to go to a depo in town to pick it up, after arranging to leave work early.

:-/

Posted by: lafileuse at April 9, 2009 10:07 AM

Online......now there is a valuable service that many are now starting to use.Our store is the regional distribution point for the Gold coast Coles online.You get the best in the store without having to spend an hour or more shopping.....great for the customer but maybe not so great for the single population hoping to meet in the supermarkret aisles.......or for Kenny!!!!
I get lots lof inane questions ....like the day Warwick Capper wanted to know if the granny smiths were firm......no Wazza we sell soft floury apples ...Durhh.
Today we ran out of Broccoli so I had to explain to customers that Broccolini was even better and that the stalk was the best bit(most nutritious lol)

Posted by: benjaminbutton at April 8, 2009 11:30 PM

I do a good line in mutton dressed as lamb...as my daughter says...baaaahhhh!!!
I'd start doing my own shopping instead of online if you were loitering in the fruit department Kenny:))...asking inane questions like...are these fresh?

Posted by: istj54 at April 8, 2009 1:18 PM

Never let it be said that Kenny doesn't have a sense of humour......

Posted by: benjaminbutton at April 8, 2009 11:01 AM

That's funny Kenny. lol

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 8, 2009 8:39 AM

Free range Barbi...chics .....chooks.... mutton...fruit....we have it all..J.L

Posted by: benjaminbutton at April 7, 2009 9:12 AM

...are they running around the fruit department, Kenny????...free range:))

Posted by: istj54 at April 6, 2009 8:02 PM

I am dressed like i'm off to Coles......start work in an hour lol Oh dear....Kenny the fruiterer ....haven't seen Bill in looking for one our chooks yet though

Posted by: benjaminbutton at April 4, 2009 10:40 AM

This was interesting from The Age article in response to Bettina Arndt's new book regarding women and losing their sex drive.

Let's face it, many men lose their attractiveness.

Cocooned in married bliss, well fed and watered, with someone else changing the sheets and washing the towels, they quickly go to seed. Their beer bellies swell, body parts droop, and their breath goes sour, and don't they get all of us in the mood.

How many men fret about their wardrobe? How many take particular care with personal hygiene? Many men think three days of facial growth is sexy, far more than for whom it actually is. They think an old Rolling Stones T-shirt is chic, when it's just plain shabby. And most wouldn't be seen dead in a gym, claiming it's too metrosexual, too homosexual or anything but the truth: it's just too hard.

It's hard to keep up appearances, hard to keep the crow's feet at bay and hard to keep your tummy taut. But that is what is expected of women. We are expected to keep ourselves nice, keep our weight down, do our hair, paint our faces and dress like we're not off to Coles. But not men.

And yet it's our fault there's not enough rooting?

Most women are generous in praising the virtues - physical and mental, if not emotional - of their menfolk. Few women would demand their partner visit an Ashley & Martin hair-loss clinic, for instance. Hair loss is a natural, if unwelcome, process and bald men can look hot. And which woman would insist on their fella dyeing his hair or having pec implants?

Apply that to the other half. How alluring do men find women who've lost their hair, or gone grey, or have small breasts, or gained weight, or stopped doing their hair or otherwise ... let themselves go?

The debate sparked by Arndt's book, including much of the commentary about it, has framed the domestic sex war as one largely grounded in supply, or more accurately, a lack of supply of sexual services by women.

But we shouldn't ignore demand. If women are going to get "real" about our mismatched libidos, men need to get real about their sex appeal.

Posted by: iaminperth at April 4, 2009 2:30 AM

As a young girl I was never into Barbie...preferred my walking bride doll(have forgotten her name but she was around for a number of years); playing with my brother's meccano set; caring for my pet tortoise and dressing my poor little chihuahua dog in my little brother's outgrown baby clothes that I found stored in the bottom drawer of a kitchen dresser!

I must admit, however, that I did introduce Barbie to my daughters during their little girl years...they used to swap Barbies with their friends. Barbie's popularity with my girls faded well before their teens. I think the Barbie collection ended up at St V De Paul.

Posted by: bellibone at April 3, 2009 2:15 PM

I never looked remotely like Barbie and never wanted to. I think in today's world of plastic surgery though, there seems to be more Barbie "look alikes" than ever before!

Which is why it is getting harder for those of us who can't afford that quick "nip and tuck" after our children.
Botox is apparently becoming much more affordable, but not for single mother's though!
A little 'help' would be nice, but it's not something I worry about unless I'm having one of those really "down" days.

Hi Perth, how awful! But sadly the men I see walking around looking like that actually tend to be married.
And often their wives look, although not nearly as bad, very similar.
It seems very sad to me that people stop making an effort just because they are in a stable partnership.
Doesn't seem very respectful to me.

We all get older, perhaps gain a bit of weight and are obviously not as good-looking as we were in our younger days.
And of course, we all get out in the garden, clean the car, scrub the oven or shower and look quite ordinary at times.
(A hot summer's morning in the garden, with dirt, sweat, lank hair and no make up at all, and I am sure any potential partner would run a mile in less than 4 minutes!)
But we don't have to look like that all the time!

I think it is sad when people only make an effort when going to work or going out with other people and not for their SO.

Yes Jen, I agree. Most older women in my age group look fine to me. Some women do go 'over the top' when they dress to look seductive.
I think if your older child is too embarrassed to be seen out with you, that's a pretty good idea you may be doing the "mutton dressed as lamb" thing a bit too much!

Seriously though, sometimes a little less is better in the makeup department and a little more in the clothes department, for those of us who are older.
But hey, what would I know?

Chad, you really do need to get past all that anger and negativity if you really do hope to have another significant relationship!
It is not always just men who know they got less than they deserved in a property settlement, but hell there is a lot more to life!

Posted by: amberlight58 at April 3, 2009 11:19 AM

Barbi is alive and well and looking great for her age.......I can vouch for that as I met her the other week.....alas she was on the rebound and soon ran back to surfer Buddy lmao
Kenny

Posted by: benjaminbutton at April 2, 2009 11:07 AM

Those cupie dolls can be worth a bit too istj. Think she would be more like my body shape too. lol.

Could anyone really look like Barbie? And would we want to? Nah, not me. I always liked having dark hair myself. lol

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 1, 2009 8:43 PM

...Jenniferhi...I have a very old Cupie Doll...and she still looks fabulous...don't think it's worth anything but she is so cute and cuddly looking...and more "my" body shape.

Posted by: istj54 at April 1, 2009 8:35 PM

Jen met Ken. Ken met Jen.

Ken and Jen went out then. Maybe they will again. lol.

Ok, ok, I know. Small things amuse and all that. lmao.

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 1, 2009 3:27 PM

This Jen recently went out with a Ken.

I like that... Jen and Ken. Sounds kinda cool.

lol. (hehe)

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 1, 2009 3:23 PM

One of my old favourite sayings just comes to mind.
"Many a fine man is found under a shabby hat."

I love that!

Jen.

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 1, 2009 3:21 PM

Oh and re Barbie. I still have my original Barbie with the original box and clothes.
She's worth heaps now, but don't think I could ever sell her.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 1, 2009 3:00 PM

And really how many are like that? Let's get real. I haven't either JenJen.

I like to think those out there looking for a new partner present themselves in the most attractive way they can. As do we women.

And if a woman wants to show off her boobs, well so be it. They are obviously one of the most attractive things to a man, and if she's got it and is comfortable in flaunting it well good for her.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at April 1, 2009 2:59 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at March 30, 2009 4:46 PM

Very descriptive, still giggling :)))
Havent met anyone even remotely like that fortunately...

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 30, 2009 11:28 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at March 30, 2009 4:46 PM

:-D

So well put! Fortunately, the men I've met so far in this scene have been into good grooming (quick, where is some wood to knock on?!). That is so much more important, and attractive, than clothing labels or car models.

Posted by: lafileuse at March 30, 2009 8:20 PM

hi perthy did you know theres a new barbie out? she is called divorced barbie and she comes with everything ken used to own chad

Posted by: chad1958 at March 30, 2009 5:47 PM

50 very shortly here. Barbie's OK in some ways. After all she has done just about everything from Barbie the Astronaut, Barbie the Dancer, Barbie the Nurse. Barbie the everything. But, she's a bit chimerically plastic.

Posted by: astrawberry at March 30, 2009 5:43 PM

And Ken 50 and fabulous. A belt around the top of a pair of pants is not something to hang under the great beer gut hanging out sometimes stretched to such an extent you can see a grotesque hairy naval. Neither is nasal hair attractive and tufts of hair hanging out of ears. A smile is to be attractive and welcoming but when the teeth are almost green from lack of cleaning and neglect and the tongue coated white due to fungas causes you to think that someone has risen from the grave unnanounced, it is time to run for the hills. Fingernails really show what a guy does with his hands and dirty lumps of brown stuff could resemble anything but we won't go there. How much effort does it take to be clean, and crop a few hairs. And please visit the dentist and get those teeth scraped on a regular basis as you are obviously doing something to make them such a horrible colour. These are only the bits you see on the outside on first meeting so heaven knows what you would find underneath the clothing, Yuk, I need to change the subject now. A good electric toothbrush, one of the nose hair thingos about 29.95 for the nose and ears and good old soap and a brush for the dirty nails. ps little boogas sometimes stick in the nose hairs and that can be so distracting and quite pukeworthy at times.

Posted by: iaminperth at March 30, 2009 4:46 PM

I think you can look fresh and fabulous at 50 or older than that. However, I don't think a 50 year old can look fresh or fabulous with caked on makeup, loads of eyeliner and mascara and the inevitable stretchy black crossover top. Yes, I know I have done this before but it's my pet hate. Sagging bulging boobs hanging underneath loads of cheap jewellery is, in my opinion a repulsive look and seems to be one that so many 50 year old adopt. I am sick of seeing middle aged overweight womens breasts hanging out, they are not attractive, they are just great lumps of fat. I think it is true what one englishman said, Younger women have breasts, older women have bosoms and some women getting around at the moment, sad to say, almost look like they have udders !!!

Posted by: iaminperth at March 30, 2009 4:39 PM

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