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I think everyone has doubted that and posted that at some time. I have never blocked any contact on this site but that is one I certainly would, no thank you

Posted by: iaminperth at August 28, 2008 1:53 PM

Kay at 11.29pm: "Well,warper,we KNOW people doubt your veracity on dating numbers..."

First I've heard of it, except from you every now and then, just after I've teased you a bit.

It's easy for you to make that claim, but it's a delicate issue for me to refute, because of privacy concerns. I certainly mustn't name them all here, with dates and venues of our first meetings.

And I won't spend an RSVP stamp to email the list to Her In Perth, for 'reliable verification'.

So I'm afraid that you're just going to have to believe that I'm a tryhard, so seriously searching for my match that you were one in so many that I've had first dates with, but so few that I've had third dates with.

So far. Another kiss came in yesterday....

Unfortunately, all I can say in my defence of my veracity

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 28, 2008 11:53 AM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 28, 2008 2:00 AM: You always hit the spot for my like my Coffee in the morning xx ta

...... why don't you come with us to Sydney????

And where is my other Naughty boy waiting in the wings?? Eral xxxx

come on it will be fun...you know it will...bring yourself, your funny ways, and some mace just incase all hells breaks loose in the bar again...xxxxx oooo

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 28, 2008 11:30 AM

kurli at 11:29 PM:

1) Of course YOU'RE real, ma'am!

I was replying to Marcus, to back up my previous disappointment about his surprisingly slipshod science, and teasing you gently was just the icing on the cake. A bird and a bloke with one stone, if you get my drift.

2) "...never fails to amaze me that TW can post "ad nauseum". I blog three inocuous comments and they don't make the blog!"

Kay (which is for short - don't start thinking it's a pet name), this is not the first time you've raised that complaint.

I can only surmise that, just as one woman's 'Promiscuous' is another woman's 'Serial Monogamy', one poster's 'Innocuous' could perhaps look rather like a WW2 Bunker-assault Flamethrower to another person.

Especially if they were the moderate kind of person that would get chosen to be a moderator.

Kay, if it's any comfort to you, one of mine also hits the cutting-room floor every week or so - including my previous draft of the one at 10.39pm last night that upset your digestion this time.

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Posted by: timewarp1 at August 28, 2008 10:40 AM

Perth, Holland Park starts at the end of my road!! Lovely area, but then I might be a bit biased....keep your chin up and your toes warm.

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 28, 2008 2:32 AM

timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 10:38 PM

You might have to resign yourself to the fact that people readily believe with no evidence at all in far more unlikely things than the existence of a blogging, celibate, middle aged dog lover living in Perth.
There has been no more than a rustle in the undergrowth so to say as far as the transcontinental verification has gone.
Perhaps we could petition the powers for a non compulsory pet style data chip and DNA recording to satisfy those who want authentic bloggers but still allow the amusing, confusing and entertaining performers.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 28, 2008 2:00 AM

Jen,Willow,Blue...........not a problem at all!

Amouro..........I have given Maestrac my details and she will pass them on.

I am happy for the ladies above to have my details also.

I believe this will be great....just leave your axes at home(in case you are crazy axe murderers)....hahaha

Sydney Guys,where are you?????????????

Posted by: musicteacher at August 28, 2008 1:41 AM

Steely eyes apologies for being late after a twelve and a half hour day. Still remembered to stop by the chemist after taking a chance and kissing a frog who turned out to be a queen.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 28, 2008 12:50 AM

Have you guys in Sydney got a date pencilled in for the lunch? You've got me interested now. I will be in Sydney for the last weekend in October. But guess that is probably way after your meet. There is someone special amongst you I would dearly like to meet. Think she knows who she is.

Hi Jen, we're waaaay behind the Brisbane gang, we're still gathering bodies. Musicteacher is doing the organising.

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 27, 2008 4:42 PM

Posted by: maestrac at August 28, 2008 12:20 AM

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

Philo of Alexandria

Posted by: kurli at August 27, 2008 11:41 PM

TW@10.38pm:
I'm surmising that "kay" is new tag for kurli??
Well,warper,we KNOW people doubt your veracity on dating numbers.........however there are quite a few people who speak & meet with me regularly...and know(as you do) that I am 100% REAL.......
no further correspondence will be answered.

p.s. never fails to amaze me that TW can post "ad nauseum" .I blog three inocuous comments and they don't make the blog!

Posted by: kurli at August 27, 2008 11:29 PM

There you are softfeather, I was wondering were you got to :))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 11:13 PM

laughsandtalks at August 27, 2008 7:11 PM: Yes, Marcus, but I have to ask - who's actually met Kay? What if B29's original suspicions were correct?

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 10:38 PM

Posted by: kurli at August 27, 2008 6:50 PM - The 'whip' thing has me listening :)

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 27, 2008 9:46 PM

Thanks Elf, Kurli and I will meet up somewhere or other, hopefully lunch and see what happens. I haven't been back to Qld for ages. My brother and his family live in Holland Park so will visit there as well. I am sure the roads are quite different now but my daughter has a Tom Tom so all will be well.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 9:42 PM

Drifter: re your question re sorting things out with a woman. Have you tried just looking sheepish when ya meet ???? If that fails just flex ya cheeks :) .... softsighs

Posted by: softfeather at August 27, 2008 9:10 PM

re: Brisbane bloggers meet.....I am always one to take note of karmic coincidence so, as the Pig n Whistle event is on the date first proposed, I say we go with the rsvp organised as this meet up. So PnW, arriving 7:30 - 8pm, Saturday, September 27th, and let's find each other and congregate...and have a really good night....and any one else who happens to be in town, please do come and join us!
I am having an rsvp ladies night, paint the town lipstick rouge, this Friday, so will see if those ladies feel like joining us....
Unless I hear No Way, protests, I will take it that people read this and are ok with it :)
Perth, honey, hope your cold is getting slayed and you are rugged up....we will raise a glass of two to you, and maybe something smaller might be organisable when you are here in October.... a little QLD hospitality to you girl!

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 27, 2008 8:46 PM

Timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 5:59 AM
laughsandtalks at 10:16 PM :

"I am sure you could send someone 'known' a kiss and an email and put an end to the speculation."
"Would that standard of verification really satisfy you that Santa (Perth) is real, Marcus?"

Kurli. Pressures on girl.

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 27, 2008 7:11 PM

OBD@1.46pm:
Females may indulge in a bit of hissy fitting "occasionally " but a decent capuccino,cafe latte, cup of char,herbal tea--- even a glass or two of white/red,generally returns the earth to its correct axis.

Of course,as in the male world,you can also find in the female sphere those attempting to dominate (perceived) minor females......
(no,I'm not stirring the possum,just speaking from long experience VBG)

Now kiddies I'm off to choir practice,please DO behave well or I may need to apply the dreaded whip :-) or ban you to the norty corner!!

Peace! love &' bliss kisses' to all who wish to receive.

Posted by: kurli at August 27, 2008 6:50 PM

Let me know too please. I might be coming down to Sydney in the near future.

Posted by: willow29 at August 27, 2008 6:41 PM

Drifter - some of us do! Although it might be margueritas instead of beer - and pillowfights instead of bloodshed :) Not that Im referring to any particular incident..

Posted by: willow29 at August 27, 2008 5:00 PM

Have you guys in Sydney got a date pencilled in for the lunch? You've got me interested now. I will be in Sydney for the last weekend in October. But guess that is probably way after your meet. There is someone special amongst you I would dearly like to meet. Think she knows who she is.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 27, 2008 4:42 PM

Hey Outback, I like the german breeds as well, all alert and smart. Rum for me just makes me laugh more and I never get a hangover from it. My ex brother in law used to end up in jail if he drank rum but it doesn't have that affect and also I never drink anything to get completely totalled. I always want to be totally aware what is going on around me. However, big pup loves rum and she would happily climb on you to have a slurp !

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 2:33 PM

Grego, thanks for your kind words of welcome!
Flinders island sounds like a fabulous idea, or King Island even! Yum!King island brie! The beef is sensational there too, so everyone says,Iwouldn't know, and won't get to!
Hello Malsie and Tassiedude, Nice to know I am not alone as a Tasmanian on this blog! What do you two think of a meet sometime, for a coffee and a chat, or somewhere for music and a drink?

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 27, 2008 2:20 PM

LtoL, thank you, short & witty as we alway love from you :))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 2:18 PM

outbackdrifter at 11:03 AM: The girls were raving about them a few days ago, so when I had a minute I had a look. And they do look good. Unfortunately, mine are 900gm restaurant loaves, with a similar softness.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 2:13 PM

Grego, lots of naughty coves there & From what I have seen there are a few old sheds to hide behind :).
the best thing about an Island is they have to deal with each other & have a great time :))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 2:13 PM

Outbackdrifter: because we are women!

Ok maestrac........I will organise....happy to do daytime..........

(by the way,check out Google maps for easier directions to anywhere!)

I believe spanky is from Sydney.

I have run out of stamps....can you e-mail me please and we can go from there......

off for a pedicure and work!

Outbackdrifter: I don't drink on a regular basis........like to be focused,so that scenario would not suit moi.

Don't worry about women not getting along!

Posted by: musicteacher at August 27, 2008 2:05 PM

PS Sorry I meant Me not you, in my the opening statement..........Gee I hate when I do that :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 2:03 PM

Mr Outback - 1.46 - easy some women don't drink!! lol

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 27, 2008 1:55 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 11:32 AM

OBD, Flinders island an excellent idea. Have never been but I would love to vist it. Kindergarten on the Island...mmmm has a certain ring to it.

As long as there is a naughty corner and most importantly a shelter shed.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 27, 2008 1:53 PM

To the lovely ladys of this blog, can you answer a question for you, most bloke´s I have meet can sit down have a beer & sort there problems out, there might be abit blood shed along the way but in the end, they will are sorted things out & we will have a drink to seal the deal, why can´t weman do the same ??? :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 1:46 PM

Hi musicteacher, I'm in for a Sydney bloggers meet.
I don't go to the RSVP nights out as they are mostly in or north of Sydney. I don't drive in Sydney as it's a nightmare (even with my street directory I get lost) and taking a train alone and late at night is not a good option either. But a daytime meet would be great. I usually check out who's who and I've noticed that there aren't many visible Sydney bloggers.

I don't mind spending a few stamps to contact bloggers but I nominate YOU as the organiser. Anyone 2nd that lol.

Posted by: maestrac at August 27, 2008 1:25 PM

Hey- has anyone seen Steely eyes of late he is MIA :-(...........

May I please have one Vodka on the rocks with freshly cut lime and lemon and one strawberry just for good measure.

Mr Bartender and I shall stay in your fine establishment until Mr Wonderful arrives..................... now where the heck is he????????????????

Does he not know that he needs to visit the chemist for me on the way home???????

Oh wait I think I just saw him walk by my window............oooooooooxxxxxxxxxx

No sadly it is just the window cleaner :-(

If you all see him before I do can you tell him where I am please.........back in bed with the doona.... tell him I like his manners so if he is late home that he needs to call mexx

Would you mind telling him that he needs to and pick up my shoe from the shoeman in the city as I have the other one safely in my custody......

Lucky the shoe only fits my foot and it will never fit anothers like it does mine......... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 27, 2008 12:59 PM

Part 1:
OMG: The Masters office is so busy today!!!!.

I am quickly typing......... a pretend........ very important announcement to all Australians....................... on behalf of the organisation that gives me currency to fund my social life so well... at times.....?????

I may need to send them an Email and tell them that I need more currency if I am to grace them with my current illness, under pressure, under the pump so to speak.

If the reply is not good I shall flit about to another like minded organisation. xx

Hey I did post a Gemini one on the single parents page for Saintly who I miss very much and have not seen her blogs of late...................... please Miss Saintly post a blog sometime soon ....you are in good company here xxxoooo

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 27, 2008 12:44 PM

Perth, I know what you mean & it sounds like she is a great dog, I think the Germans have turn out some top breeds, if check what does your dog say about you, you see Im big fan of hunting breeds from Germany, look after yourself & get better soon :)))

PS keep away from that rum ..........Its crazy brew :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 12:38 PM

The crush scenario was put to me from the other perspective a few months ago by someone who knows the waterflambe and since by a couple of other bloggistas who I give creedence to. Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 27, 2008 8:14 AM

Lol, Marcus, you should be so lucky!

Posted by: waterbombe at August 27, 2008 12:28 PM

The only thing achieved by not taking risks is regret.

Posted by: lookin4missright2 at August 27, 2008 12:28 PM

ERAL, You too mate, JB, JD or WT is always better then a Beer, I´ll get the next shout :))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 12:13 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 10:33 AM

Cheers OBD . Sorry mate, but i had a date with another joker ....(The Dark Knight)

[Bartender - a fresh Jack for the Drifter]

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 27, 2008 11:47 AM

Grego, how about a Vic/tas meet up on flinders Is, I have been down there & I think its one of the best places I have visited, great food & a top veiw, I am really thinking about moving there one day :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 11:32 AM

TW,Now who told you about my bread rolls :p

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 11:03 AM

Gordon, yes we are :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 11:01 AM

iaminperth at 9:41 AM : I agree with you about keeping away from rum. I tried it a couple of evenings in my 20s and found that it quickly brought out the worst in me.

Reversed my usual civilised behaviour back to about ten thousand years before the sporran was invented. And the Beenleigh was worse than the Bundy.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 10:55 AM

Waterbombe, very interesting and delightful profile. Nice pics too. If I had seen the profile before I did my post of 4.42pm yesterday the word "probably" in line 3 would have been omitted.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 27, 2008 10:46 AM

B29 at 7:38 AM: Had a look, and the wording's coming on nicely already.

But ERAL's has biceps for authenticity, and O B D has buns.

Could you at least post an unlocked visual feature or two of Dolly's? She has such a nice friendly face ....

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 10:43 AM

OBD - good band that. Showing are ages now.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 27, 2008 10:33 AM

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 26, 2008 9:15 PM

Hay mate, I think I may have had 1 or 5 to many last night, bit of a hang over this morning.
the funny thing is ERAL did not want one..........dont figger :))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 10:33 AM

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 27, 2008 7:53 AM

Mousa, sorry about the abreviation. There are only 3 Tas bloggers that I know of. malsie, tassiedude and yourself. But there are probably a few people reading the blogs but not contributing.

You could start with a small number for morning coffee and build up from there.I think these things develop their own momentum as in effect they are friendship meets not potential date meets like the official RSVP functions.

Nice to see your posts and if you have not already been, welcome to the sandpit in the kindergarten.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 27, 2008 10:33 AM

Perth - I can see only one solution to your rum problem. Invite someone over and you can only drink half the bottle. You will both be tiddly and have a good time. Unless they also bring a bottle:) OH! the delerium.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 27, 2008 10:24 AM

Outback she is a lady dog so she is not out marking her territory every five minutes. I have taken her thru quite a few obedience classes up to trialling which she thoroughly enjoys. She is also very well socialized right from the word go. I guess at home though she is my big puppy and companion dog and she goes wherever I go. Laying beside my bed is where she chooses to sleep at night and being a gsd you would expect that. Jumping on the bed is just being playful and funny and getting lots of attention of course. She is also the fifth gsd I have owned in my lifetime this far so I have a fair bit of understanding of this particular breed. My little cat is a bombay, the little heat seeking missile, so there you have the little furry family unit, all do their own thing, all loving and loyal, what more could a person possibly want.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 10:21 AM

ELF at 7:01 AM : Count me in.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 9:54 AM

Perth, Now thats a new twist to the two dog night :))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 27, 2008 9:54 AM

No Gordon, I can't be trusted with rum. I love it and the bottle disappears in no time. Much safer not to have it in the house. I remember a while ago I told some neighbours up the street about wine on special, really good stuff and a wonderful per dozen price. I was met with a solemn look and they said no we can't buy wine by the dozen. We would drink it all at once. Both professional people, both working and they looked like two naughty kids standing together with heads hung low.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 9:41 AM

jaminperth - should have got the rum. Life is to short to worry about the concequences.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 27, 2008 9:21 AM

Hey Willow, Thank you. My little cat is a heat seeking missile and she always climbs on my bed. My big puppy sleeps beside my bed and bashes me up when the alarm goes off each morning. Every now and then pup takes a flying leap on my bed and then digs her head in and turns a massive somersault and lands on her back. I can tell you a 38kg flying gsd is a site to behold, especially upside down with legs wriggling around. My eldest daughter is a total neat freak and is horrified by the antics at times. I have a home phone that rings a few times and then apparently connects. I didn't know about this as most of my calls are on mobile or at work. Big puppy howls and sings if the phone rings and we have a laugh. What I didn't know was that it answers automatically. Eldest daughter went off her nut at me one day as she said that b.........dog is now answering the phone for you !!!! Oh dear it's all such a worry.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 9:10 AM

I have removed my photograph from the site because it was taken in 2005 as I stated previously. My puppy at that stage was 10 weeks old. My 'big puppy' is now 38kgs and is a German Shepherd. I have only ever had one photograph and even that one was taken without my knowledge. The only other photograph I have was one taken for my current security tag where I work and it is a shocker.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 9:01 AM

Sorry, out of topic here but I loved these:

'When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different.
You just know that your name is safe in their mouth.'
Billy - age 4

and one for Rod:

'When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore. So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love.'
Rebecca- age 8

and my favourite:
'You really shouldn't say 'I love you' unless you mean it. But if you mean it, you should say it a lot. People forget.'
Jessica - age 8

Posted by: willow29 at August 27, 2008 8:59 AM

The only events here in Perth now are at the Ruby Room at the Burswood Casino. It's a younger persons event and I can't really think you could talk there anyway. I thought the dinner idea was good, however, I suppose unless you change seats all night you don't get to talk to the people at the other end of the table either. I think Elf's idea is sound as it would be very difficult to book somewhere without paying a deposit and then if some people were unable to turn up at the last minute could be a bit of a problem. Sounds like fun. This always brings the reality home of how far Perth is actually away from the rest of Australia.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 8:54 AM

Perth, I hope you're on the road to recovery. Did the animals get on your bed to comfort you or to take advantage of your weakened state?

Posted by: willow29 at August 27, 2008 8:48 AM

M, What a great idea with the Iris. I took a photo on the mobile to send to eldest daughter but I didn't think of a photo to enlarge. I will do that today. It is the most beautiful thing, first bulb out so far for the season. I love the colour of nature and bulbs are so beautiful. I have some blue irises growing as well but so far only greenery showing. Good stuff will get me motivated as well as I am such a doddle when I have a cold.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 8:37 AM

esprit - there are two alternatives, as you have now worked out. Bloggers can agree to meet at an RSVP organised event, such as the PignWhistle or they can organise their own. If you organise your own, you need to do it through emails. This means using stamps. I am in contact with the waterbomber (love the new profile), junebaby, auntykaz and I think I have timewarpers email address somewhere.

Posted by: woodnwine at August 27, 2008 8:31 AM

Biggest shock this morning, woke up alive !!! Today apparently my body has told me we will have a barking contest with my german shepherd all day long and also a contest to see who has the largest nose resembling that of an old drunk who has fallen out of the pub. I have also woken to find a treasure chest of 'stuff' covering my bed including the cat. There are strepsils, panadol, mobile, kleenex etc., etc., etc., and when I asked usually hesitant dog if she wanted to go into the cold garden this morning, the answer was 'you bet' and she was out of here. All in all a fairly restless night I think. However, being the pragmatic person I am I will now start to feel better, albeit barking better and will regain my strength to return to work tomorrow primarily to wreak havoc with my co-workers who keep ringing me up to sort out 'stuff' and always seem to end up in chipmunk type laughter at my expense. These nasty little individuals will not enjoy my suffering without dire consequences, although I might make a toblerone cheesecake and take it in with me, that will shut them up for sure.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 27, 2008 8:28 AM

horus August 26, 2008 4:42 PM
The crush scenario was put to me from the other perspective a few months ago by someone who knows the waterflambe and since by a couple of other bloggistas who I give creedence to. I've not seen hide nor hair but for a while I did have a strong sense I was being followed around here.
I already do a bit of community and charity work so I suppose I could find time for her if it was that important.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 27, 2008 8:14 AM

Good morning , one and all, had a really busy day yesterday,but had a quick look over yesterday's posts here in blogland...interesting!
Has there ever been a bloggers meet here in Tas?I don't imagine we would have the numbers but I would be very interested if there was enough interest. Maybe I should just get to a melboune / Sydney meet?
It would be really nice to put faces , voices ,to the nics.It's so much fun in here , can only imagine how much fun you would be in person.
Anyway blisskisses to you all to start your day ! XXX

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 27, 2008 7:53 AM

Waterbombe, well that is some profile you have there..... No mention of cooking skill though was that intentional???.............K. Posted by: auntykaz at August 26, 2008 11:48 PM

Kaz, sadly no, I think none of the women I quoted in my profile cooked, so I can't give voice to any cooking expertise. Pity, because on Sat night I cooked tempura prawns with avocado and lime, whole deep-fried snapper with a chinese mushroom, garlic, soy and ginger sauce, teriyaki chicken, broccoli, bok choy and beans with pine nuts, roasted pumpkin, and apple-and-cherry crumble. I doubt Dolly, Di or Mae ever went to the trouble, frankly. My difficulty with conveying all aspects of myself is probably due to using others' words to write my profile, but I'll persist. If I have time today I'll try to mock something up from the writing of JD Salinger and Mike Myers...maybe one of them was a cook?

Posted by: waterbombe at August 27, 2008 7:38 AM

aliane at 8:21 PM: Welcome back! I'm so glad you've had some more English lessons in the last few months. By the way, have you got a red coat on layby, ready for Christmas Eve?
.............................................................

laughsandtalks at 10:16 PM : "I am sure you could send someone 'known' a kiss and an email and put an end to the speculation."

Would that standard of verification really satisfy you that Santa is real, Marcus?
..........................................................

Crows tell me it's dawn. Finished 2 large difficult long-term projects today, so I was already high when I got to evening tennis. Now I'll sleep till midday, customers willing. Seeyez.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 5:59 AM

iaminperth at August 26, 2008 6:43 PM: I think if she's female and you're NOT being politically correct and using the gender-free term "methane generator" then she'd be a fartress.

Which could, with an american accent, become "flying fartress" which is what they called their favourite bomber ....codename B29.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 5:11 AM

ELF at 5:09 PM : That date's fine by me, and I promise to sit at the very opposite end of the table from Kay, well out of watergun range.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 5:00 AM

.tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 5:25 PM : No restriction at all, except you need to have actually posted at least occasionally.

At the Melbourne one in Feb, notgodsgift came down from Sydney and I came from Brisbane, and at the Brisbane one in Feb we had one each from Maryborough Qld and Bathurst.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:57 AM

iaminperth at 2:25 PM : Could you come to Brisbane late on Christmas Eve in your red uniform?

I'm always asleep then, but a lot of the kiddies are trying to stay awake just to catch a glimpse of you, or at least Rudolph.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:41 AM

jenniferhi at August 26, 2008 2:03 PM : Why did you say that to me, Jen?

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:35 AM

iaminperth at August 26, 2008 1:46 PM : Was that the recent picture with the big puppy, or the previous picture with the dog fully-mature?

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:33 AM

kurli at August 26, 2008 12:45 PM : Karina's on annual leave, I believe. Three weeks, from memory.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:25 AM

kurli at 11:01 AM: RSVP organises an event in Brisvegas most Saturday nights - CBD, Mt Gravatt or Indooroopilly. About $15 entry. We could agree here to go to one of them - if we can talk over 90 decibel dance music.

Three times in the last 9 months we've had special bloggermeets (last 2 near Southbank.) I co-convened the second one.

We announce on the blog who's convenor, and RSVP makes money out of it because to find out exactly where and when costs you a stamped email to the convenor. You want to convene the next one?

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:17 AM

grego7 at 10:52am : You're taking some risks! Herself's car through THE cutting, and now other chicks behind the shelter shed ....

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:09 AM

femalepersuasion at 10:04 AM: What a good post! Not focussing on the facts, but on the person's life position as open or closed - backward-looking and negative, or forward-looking and positive. So imporant.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 27, 2008 4:04 AM

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 5:47 PM
the most beautifully formed white iris ever. I have cut it and brought it inside, it's crisp white and huge with the most beautiful golden centre. The petals are frilled around the edges and it glows!

Just catching up after a long day at work, so I don't know if anyone else has suggested it, but, you should take photos of the iris and enlarge them. Do it soon before the heating takes away that first flush of beauty and freshness.

Posted by: maestrac at August 27, 2008 1:23 AM

iaminp: Hmmmmmm....lots of fun listening to a blow by blow description of your illness
and puking!Now be sensible and go to bed.....apart from that you must be pretty smashed by now.Read a book over the next few days,a novel....it may make a nice change.

Try lots of icecream....it will block your nose up even more.......you may even get a raspy cough that will make you sound as if you are barking...........that's for you Jen!

You have had it coming P....and you know it(oh,no you don't,you are unable to see my point)...ah ah ah....choooooooooo!

Posted by: musicteacher at August 27, 2008 12:38 AM

Fellow bloggers we have achieved a great amount today with but one failure in that no solution has been found for Perth's cold.

Sleep tight little children for tomorrow is another day.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 27, 2008 12:08 AM

Music - Its always my right, im not ampedexterous(i think thats how you spell it :p )

Kaz - your always a hoot, hahaha

Willow - It cant get jelous. the left is kept ehind my head, so it cant see the other, hahaha

Posted by: metalscott at August 27, 2008 12:02 AM

Waterbombe, well that is some profile you have there..... No mention of cooking skill though was that intentional???.............K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 26, 2008 11:48 PM

WB...could you include"Why don't you come up and see me sometime" OR my favourite " when I am good I'm very good, but when I'm bad I'm better" both Mae West....just my thoughts ...loved the Dolly Parton Bra quote....jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 26, 2008 11:34 PM

Kurli........snippiness,snippiness...I make no apologies,meant every word.........it happens..............the whip thing was a joke!

I have a 747 Ducati,but am unable to ride it(my x husband used to).

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 11:27 PM

WB you made me laugh. Especially the "hard man" part. Brilliantly funny.
Night

Kurli
Thanks. You know what I've been looking for an excuse to get to the coast. My friends up there have been complaining about not seeing me especially now that two of them have had children since I left.
A lot happens in a short time. Just think could have been me.

Sweet dreams hope all feel better tomorrow.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 11:14 PM

And finally on the idea of Briz bloggers meeting.......maybe we need to invade one of the "events" organised for the younger RSVPers????
(just a wild thought :-)
Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 10:49 PM

Great idea Kurli!!! What about the Beach House Bar & Grill 13th Sept...or 11th Oct ???

That's at Garden City...plenty of free parking and we could all go for Coffee afterwards

Is this central enough to include some of the Gold Coasters as well??

Posted by: starryeyez at August 26, 2008 11:12 PM

If this helps at all. I didn't go to any but I remember one dinner was advertised at Sails in Fremantle and the other at Hillary's Boat Harbour. Both venues were quite large and medium priced but very good food. I can't remember how many places were available each time but it was quite a few. They were also age themed and it must have been the slightly older age group otherwise I wouldn't have noticed. I didn't actually attend either of them because I was hooked up with something else but I would have done quite happily and thought it a great idea.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 10:58 PM

Hey WB, love the profile, what about you're a good housekeeper, everytime they leave you keep the house. Great sense of humour, keep it up, it lightens the site. Look tonight and today, except for one sad hiccup it's all been a bit of fun really. Thanks everyone for making me laugh when I am such a mess with this wrotten cold, even Marcus, although he made me puke.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 10:50 PM

OBD @ 5.25pm: so glad you think I'm "good" VBG.......stick around for the second act!
and again @ 5.45.......WHAT have I done to deserve the whip? Leathers I'm not into......unless they be bike leathers (I prefer Ducattis myself)
MT @ 9.44pm: A great pity not to have a blogging day without snippiness.

And finally on the idea of Briz bloggers meeting.......maybe we need to invade one of the "events" organised for the younger RSVPers????
(just a wild thought :-)

Dude....we'd welcome you anytime/anywhere (bliss kiss)
'nite all!!

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 10:49 PM

Hey Marcus, I do already. Kurli and I chat on hotmail quite often. There is not a lot of personal stuff you can put on the site and we have a laugh off site quite often. If I get up there early October which at the moment looks like happening we will meet up for lunch or something. As for the first part of your post that is about the worse thing you could possibly have ever said and I think I am now about to be violently sick..........oh yuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 10:43 PM

Strepsils are horrible! Try icecream with a finely chopped mars bar mixed in it ...it wont make you better but it tastes good!

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 10:40 PM

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 26, 2008 5:09 PM

Sorry ELF and other Brisbanites. I have just gotten home. Yes the 27th at this stage is free. Shall we meet in town on closer to the South? Are there any Gold Coasters that want to join us?

What I am thinking, is to also email Admin, to see if they can bring back these so called dinners, that Perth has mentioned. It can be added up top to the RSVP Events section. If they ran them every 2-3 months, we could all organise it here in the blogs to make it a regular event? It could be a blog/non-blog combined event as well?

Posted by: starryeyez at August 26, 2008 10:27 PM

WB - amusing profile - Its a shame you're not accepting kisses, Im sure it'd get heaps!

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 10:22 PM

I have some Strepsils + and my left ear and nose are now numb. They are supposed to be soothing and anaesthetise the throat. I am now keeping a watchful eye on other extremeties case they freeze and fall off in the night as well. I mean who sits there and thinks up these things. Let's give people lolly things to suck and their left ear falls off but their throat feels a little better. Oh, I'm still sick.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 10:17 PM

PoochesinperthAugust 26, 2008 2:25 PM
You wouldn't have to sleep with Warped Pooches. And he hasn't provided any evidence for his puppet claim has he, rather innuendo and the defence of a position that he has an investment in?
I am sure you could send someone 'known' a kiss and an email and put an end to the speculation.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 26, 2008 10:16 PM

Yes willow, now you don't have far to go if you are noorty.
Iaminperth - just a hint, put the top back on the bottle. It evaporates in the warm Perth air.:) Also I am available for back scratches if they are required :) Good night and sweet dreams all and sundry. Gordon.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 10:12 PM

A self serving monologue is one that is repeated over and over and over. The same old report of everything said and done, bit by bit, again and again and obtaining the same outcome.

I won't bother to respond to the second part of your post as you sound like a very unhappy bitter person to me and I feel very sorry for you if that is the case.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 9:55 PM

Exactly Rod!

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 9:53 PM

Good job as Monitor, Drifter. You can have a gold star.

Perth, love Ye Olde Fartess or Fartress even :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 9:51 PM

Would you consider the degree of risk (Risk being the possibility of being hurt again) would be multiplied by the intensity of the relationship.

1) Depends on who did the breaking up
2) Time together
3) level of involvement (marriage/ boy/girl friend)
4) The amount of hurt involved (why/how)
5) All the other influencing factors friends, families, mortgage, kids.

So then; If you were married? (which by all rights you in your own mind have already given your body and soul and agreed to spend the rest of your life with someone forfeiting the need to ever have to search for anyone ever again). And lets just say that one day it all just went away in the most horrible fashion. (as I am guessing most marriages end).
Then the risk is to be able to take the step towards trusting someone whom you have just met and couldn't possibly know anything other than what they portray.
Who do you trust?

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 9:45 PM

perth:

"What is the difference between a self serving monologue and a comment made by yourself?"

Here is another big word for you: "contradiction"

Can you hear me from way UP here?

Hang on....it will take me a few lightyears to come down to your level.

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 9:44 PM

Musicteacher, mind your manners.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 9:37 PM

Oh yum Gordon honey lemon and a good helping of rum. I don't buy rum any more as it only lasts five minutes in our house. I don't dare buy it any more in case it beckons me too often and I am sure most of the bottles leak - I think I will have to complain to Bundy.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 9:31 PM

You mean the noorty corner is in my office??

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 9:30 PM

Ye Olde Fartess - Sounds like a wonderful old pub in the south of England somewhere, or maybe in the Cotswalds. Beautiful country and they have all these wonderful pubs with the weirdest names. That's something I really love about England the old pubs, I think that would be a good name. No, not hot flushes, been there, done that and I can tell you it is horrible.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 9:29 PM

Sandbox Roundup, well kiddies its been a great day in the playpen, I think most of you will agree that it is lot more pleasant when we play nice & be just a little naughty :)).
I really like the idea of a bloggers night or day out, it is really time to put faces & people to the nickname & I wish you luck getting this to happen.
Anyway its time to stand down as toybox monitor & I hope you all have a good night & great day tomorrow..............this is Outbackdrifter signing off for the night :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 9:24 PM

There's always someone nasty and jealous pops up isn't there. Just when we're having a harmless joke there is a nasty spiteful comment posted like that. It's unnecessary and uncalled for. And whatever has it got to do with any tall poppy syndrome. There is no one on this site who is better than anyone else. Just jealous of people having a laugh and having a bit of fun.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 9:22 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 7:27 PM - Just knocked the top off one myself *cheers*...

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 26, 2008 9:15 PM

Willow29 - I think there is possum poo in the noorty corner :) gordon.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 9:12 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 6:43 PM - Now, the hot & cold flushes. You sure they're 'the flu'? LoL. Re the fart thing: In this PC world these days, it would be 'fart' for both a male Old Fart, and a female Old Fart. Pre the 70's, the fem version would be Olde Fartess... :)

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 26, 2008 9:12 PM

iaminperth - I tried hot lemon drinks with honey and a good helping of rum. It didn't help, but I slept really well. Hope you get better soon. Gordon.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 9:10 PM

Hey Rod, I love the little blue creatures too, also the telly tubbies and the care bears. I still have all my kids toys and teddy bears and I tell them I am keeping them for them and their kids, but I like them too. They all have happy memories for me. I have a small teddy that my father bought for my youngest which was her first teddy. She is still in perfect condition and I remember when he sent it to her with a little note. I still miss my father. He passed away after a long battle with cancer when he was 84 about 10 years ago. My father was an extremely complicated man, not outwardly affectionate to anyone but he loved and accepted me for who I am and was extremely proud.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 9:10 PM

At the moment WB copious amounts of alcohol seems to be helping...or maybe that's just deadening the pain. I should be at work but have a non existent voice at the moment so I am of no use to anyone. How long will I be laid up, probably long enough to work off a chronic hangover tomorrow morning. Honestly though I don't think there's much you can do about it except treat the symptoms and a couple of panadol and a good glass of alcohol seems to be helping at the moment.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 9:06 PM

Yes Willow29 the nooorty corner for you. Just beware of Kurli with the whip.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 9:02 PM

I like Marcus' posts usually. They are contraversial at times and he does say what he thinks but is usually such good value to the blogs. Sometimes his questions are straight to the point without any frills but that's okay too. i was surprised when he questioned by bona fide as I thought it was always pretty obvious. Also I find these constant discussions not only tedious and boring but totally disruptive to any type of discussion. Even today when the long winded self serving monologues haven't been constantly rammed down everyone throats it is so much better. I'm sure we can move on to something better and happier and more enjoyable. Risks in dating, walking down the road with a very pongy old bloke. Now that's a risk I am not going to take again.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 8:58 PM

yawn.....yawn......

I am off to watch 2 movies recommended to me by ERAL.

Waterbombe and Perth.......you make a fine team,one always scratching the others back....pathetic.........classic cases of people with tall poppy syndrome!

Hopefully when this site becomes more sophisticated with its programming,they will include a DELETE button!

To the gentlemen and true ladies out there,I bid you good night!

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 8:54 PM

Gordon - are you going to send ME into the noorty corner? Good! At least Ive got a good excuse to be there :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 8:50 PM

You are right Jewels about the b logging. All the Fairfax sites for the major newspapers have blogs going on all topics, sport, news, politics etc. It's just the same on here, another blog site. You don't have to be a sportsman to blog on the sports site, or a politician to blog on the pollie site. No, WB I am not travelling to Bris just to prove I am real, but possibly will be coming up early October with my eldest daughter. I will certainly be meeting up with one blogger whilst I'm there.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 8:48 PM

oh, Perth, you poor thing. What are you taking for it? Nothing much works for a cold, does it...you just have to sit it out. Next time I get one I'm going to try Chinese medicine as it seems to be effective. How long do you think you will be laid up?

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 8:46 PM

Rod: Two gorgeous men? Of course I would! How could I resist?

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 8:45 PM

iaminperth
No! not pathetic. I think Smurf's are very cute. I still have a collection somewhere in one of the old boxes under the house.
Hope you are feeling better.
Love Rod

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 8:41 PM

Willow29 - More fart talk I see. That is twice in a week. I might have to reaccess the high opinion i have of you hehe. Old Fart Gordon.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 8:36 PM

OBD, that will be a cab sav for me thanks..........K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 26, 2008 8:34 PM

Oh how disgusting, Perth,...schoolboy humour in a fifty year old is hardly classy is it. Why would he possibly think that would attract a woman, the mind boggles. Btw I hope you are not seriously thinking of flying Perth-Brisbane to appease Marcus? Remember what we do with demanding two year olds who throw tantrums, Perth...yes, we ignore them. Eventually they grow up. Best approach here too I think.

"Waterbombe, if you have a loving partner and a great life, what the hell are you doing spending all day on the blogs". Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 6:44 PM. Gordon, can you count? You must not be able to, if you think I spend all day on the blogs. I made three posts tonight around 7pm, four yesterday around 7pm, and five or six short and may I say funny ones the day before that. Now I'll stop before I sound like Timewarp.

Eral, you might notice that much of what has been said to you about your profile in the last few days was said by other people, not me, as I have hardly had any time to post, work has been so busy. Why don't you get along to a Sydney Bloggers meeting to prove you are bona fide...I mean if Perth is worried by Marcus's demands, why shouldn't you be.......the Sydney bloggers have a lot of meetings and there are a lot of people there who would just love to meet you, really.

Btw I never bend to aggressive men, nasty men, (or women) or people who display anger in an attempt to pressure others to do what they want. Being bullied just isn't in my personality, I guess. It makes for a calm and happy life for me, although the occasional bully explodes around me.

Glad to see you back, Drone. It's pleasant to see some low level egos and rationality on this blog...you make some excellent points which I really enjoy reading.

Ok, off to spit and polish my profile....I'm trying a Princess Di/Dolly Parton combo now....Mother Teresa, as it turned out, said pretty much the same things as Princess Di so that didn't allow for the full variety in my personality. I feel Dolly will offer a different perspective, while still being so close to the real me that you wouldn't believe it. Seeya soon.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 8:31 PM

Sound pretty pathetic don't I Tassie but I am honestly so sick. I saw this beautiful iris in my front garden and just had to have it to remind me that spring is here/coming/whatever. Jams and blue uggs about 3p.m. not a good look at all I can tell you but I'm too sick to care.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 8:30 PM

metalscott..which one?

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 8:29 PM

the RSVP Blogs are a public forum for any one that is on RSVP...if you have a profile you can blog.

RSVP, like Kaz said does help you meet more Australians...if it wasn't for the blogs I would not have met Woody, Jenjen, wishful, today, jovial, grace, dolphin, brilliant, kaz, victoria and waterbombe just to mention a few!!!!!!!

The blogs are part of the site, but the blogs are for discussions, sharing experiences and sharing your ups and downs in life. The blogs are not the matchmaking part of RSVP....so can we move on and get back to the sharing and fun stuff.....just my thoughts... jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 26, 2008 8:26 PM

metalscott, l too have an open relationship.....with my mouth!!.;-).....
Now if that doesn't get you lot laughing l will go he....or she....or they.............K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 26, 2008 8:23 PM

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 7:00 PM
But you would. Watch!

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 8:22 PM

Blog Temptation

The winds of temptation are blowing, among the promenade amusement and stiled. Dramas are unfolding, passion igniting and upright, the duty driven are powerless to prevent them, unable to stop the sun from rising...
A humane story told with wit and charm. Silence... whatever they don't know won't hurt them....

Posted by: aliane at August 26, 2008 8:21 PM

Goodness, anyone watching Grumpy Old Woman - about coffee shops? I'm one of them!! When did I turn into a GOW?

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 8:18 PM

Metalscott - too much information, lol

ps. at least it won't get jealous!

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 8:09 PM

Howdy Perth. I didnt start to learn to ride until I was 31. The brumbies and misfits that this riding school taught us on made the group of us (6 women) stuff of legend (not quite but we had some SERIOUS injuries). My old horse Buddy can just about outrun anything and everyone that's ridden him has come off at least once. But like you say, when the wind is in your face and all you can hear is the thundering of hooves as you duck branches and hope to hell that nothing spooks him mid-stride.... you know you're really alive.10 shots of pure adrenalin.

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 8:08 PM

Esprit,. What about a byo champagne breakfast in a park somewhere starting about 10 or maybe a midafternoon byo something or other outside. No bookings needed and all you have to do is byo and turn up. If it were a good brekkie whoever wanted could break off and go somewhere afterwards. Or maybe a champagne pub brekkie somewhere near the water. I love big brekkies with champagne sitting near the water, also not so expensive and then you could always exchange numbers etc., and move on to somewhere else if you wanted to.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 8:07 PM

Blue ugg boots. You got a cold or are you trying to be a smurf?

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 8:05 PM

Drone its good to see you back in the sandbox :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 8:01 PM

Kaz - Your exactly right. A relationship doesnt eclude anyone in these blogs. i myself have a open relationship with my hand, and im still here, hahahaha

:p

Posted by: metalscott at August 26, 2008 7:58 PM

I think this needs to be a standard form letter, it needs saying so often. So I have copied it into Word on my desktop and will just paste it each time it is necessary, as it gets so tedious having to remind some people of everyone's rights.

Bloggers Rights and Responsibilities
1. The moderators are the boss of the blogs.
2. Anyone can blog if the moderator lets them.
3. 'Anyone' includes single, married, gay, and de facto people.
4. This is a private site so our opinions about the moderators' decisions are irrelevant. If you don't like it, you have to lump it. That includes ALL of us, including the people who see themselves as exceptions to any rule.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 7:58 PM

I went for a walk with a guy once and he was popping along and I gave him 'that look' and he said what ! It's frogs. He was walking and farting loudly would you believe, and then he said 'what ! everyone does it! and I said 'not when they bloody well walk with me, you smelly old bugger' and kept walking faster and faster and faster.....

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 7:40 PM

I'm with you Kaz.......on the drink that is and we're 2 hours behind you guys, oh and about 30 years I think. Have to agree also though this is a blog, only a blog and so far today it's been really pleasant except for a small hiccup along the way. I think anyone who chooses to should be able to blog so long as their posts are relevant, slightly to the topic, although most of the time that doesn't seem to matter any more either. Apparently I have to prove my bona fides according to Marcus which means I need to travel to Brisbane for all to see. Surely anyone would think that if I am a fake I would have thought up a much more dramatic profile. I actually played mine down because I didn't want to seem over the top.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 7:33 PM

Upon reflection, I think my "sign-off" message yesterday was a bit too severe.

So I apologise for the excessive tone.

See you on the other side. :)

Posted by: drone at August 26, 2008 7:30 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 26, 2008 7:05 PM

OBD - please mate - do your worst

Sorry mate Im have a beer..............Do you want one ????

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 7:27 PM

"I don't believe commenting on blogs falls into the "adultery" category......" and who wants to be an adult anyway?

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 7:25 PM

AK, Merlot, Shiraz or a Cabernet Sauvignon ????? :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 7:25 PM

Hi Willow. I love the smell of horse sweat. I just love the smell of horses. I more or less lived with them from aged 12 onwards whether it be riding for pleasure, competing or then racehorse spelling. I have sustained quite a few injuries over the years eventing but there is nothing like cross country on a superb athletic horse to get the heart pumping.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 7:22 PM

WB isn't the only one that blogs who is in a relationship guys......

And why does being in a relationship exclude anyone from blogging??
Is this site not marketed as the place "where more Australians meet"???
Yes it is it says so right at the top of this very page.......Golly gee, didn't you read that?? .....................K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 26, 2008 7:16 PM

Hi Chad............

I don't believe it is a singles forum,and my "partner" knows I am here to cause trouble...................well,some may think so.

We are adults here........I don't believe commenting on blogs falls into the "adultery" category.......

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 7:08 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 5:48 PM

I'm going to ask you, one last time - leave me entirely out of your comments - once and for all.

You ( and Drone) started all of this nonsense on the another blog.. and all i said to him was he was the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.( re marcus)

Since then you've decided to repeatedly to attack me and any that showed me some sypmatico.

When i tried to ignore you, you brought to this blog! Are you still full of poison ? Your just adding insult to injury !

However, I also don't intend on slandering you to the others, nor insinuate that they should avoid you. In fact after this i wont mention you on these blogs ever again.

The spirit of a blog is to share 'information' and opinions in a fun way, not a place to sharpen your claws.

OBD - please mate - do your worst ...

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 26, 2008 7:05 PM

As far as I can see IF we get a meet up here in sunny Brissie, anyone should be able to go, if they read the blogs or whatever....my thoughts on that are that it means only restaruant tables can be booked for a few, so the logistics might be an issue...on the other hand, we could choose to meet at a pub area that does food so that there is no real need to book anything! Or if it is an evening get together (as I suggested, any responses??) we could do some tapas or something. Any comments, feedback anyone? Can we get this show off the ground???

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 26, 2008 7:03 PM

Oh, very light hearted here today for the most part....
OBD, l am too tired to play with toys, someone just get me a glass of red and l will be a happy gal.
This cold is sure taking my energy away, first day back at work since Thursday and l am feeling it....my brain feels all confuddled........fairy flossy.......Just about over it actually........Please pass me that glass of red now.......please............K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 26, 2008 7:03 PM

I think it would be naive to think that everyone who blogs on here is single or unattached. It is after all an open blog and anyone really can join. I think WB is just being honest.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 7:01 PM

MT - If its Tassie and Eral in there together, I dont think I want to watch - like Tassie said before "what a waste!".

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 7:00 PM

Perth, I think if you go along the lines of "Horses sweat, men perspire and ladies gently glow", then pigs fart, men pass wind and ladies gently fluff...

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 6:52 PM

i thought this was a singles forum? if you have a partner why be on here? what does he think i wonder

Posted by: chad1958 at August 26, 2008 6:46 PM

Naughties..............

I think we should give Kurli the"whip" first
Now MT are we seeing a new side of you ?? :))))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 6:45 PM

Waterbombe 26aug 5.50 - I dont need to see your profile. I just read your posts. If you have a loving partner and a great life, what the hell are you doing spending all day on the blogs. I think you need to get a life not the people on here looking (hopefully) for a partner. I know I am of to the corner. Gordon.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 6:44 PM

Hi Gordon, Ghastly isn't it. I am coughing and carrying on, lost my voice, hot one minute, frozen the next. Never mind, can blog away all day with the laptop in bed. Just about to have some alcohol, I'm sure that will deaden the pain. If a guy is an Old Fart, Gordon, then what is a woman ? Apparently males and femals make equal amounts of gas during the day but the guys seem to enjoy passing it more especially with the multitude of sounds accompanying it. Sorry, I saw it on Oprah......well I am stuck in bed with the flu!!!!

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 6:43 PM

Naughties..............

I think we should give Kurli the"whip" first.

Jen...you are a great kisser(wink)!

ERAL: I am sure you are wild in bed Wink,Wink,Wink,Wink...I have something in my eye....wink,wink.

Absolutely no cameras allowed and those who want to watch will have to bring the food....

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 6:34 PM

Some of the comments today have shown there may be a riskier thing than dating....Blogging!!
Thanks to those that have seen the lighter point to the day. Enjoyed the lighter side.
Maybe I am too gullible but I believe you are all real people, some having great fun here.
Grego@4.42 great scenario, thanks.
Cheers all from a happy dater.

Posted by: lifebegins47 at August 26, 2008 6:30 PM

Hi all you flu suffers. I have just spent a week in bed with it. You have all my love and sympathy. Hope you get over it soon. Love Old Fart Gordon.

Posted by: gordon1951 at August 26, 2008 6:24 PM

There's this guy outside the kinder who is kinda good looking, very athletic and also kinda smart and he rather likes Waterbombe too and worse she really likes him. And my guess he's a kinda action guy and would sort out rivals rather than talk to em nice.Posted by: grego7 at August 26, 2008 4:42 PM

Ha ha Grego, exactly, especially the bit about the action guy not talking nice but doing some sorting! He's not the patient, caring, sweetly sympathetic sort that I am. Lol.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 5:56 PM

I really think some of you need to get out more, it gets kind of claustrophobic in here. For example, all this carry on about me putting my profile up and thus placing bloggers' needs and priorities above those of my partner is pretty weird....why on earth would you guys be more important to me than him? You really need to get over yourselves if you think you are more important than him. I don't care what your values are, you can make your own decisions according to them, but I'm not living by them. I've got a set of my own, which I'm very happy to continue with.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 5:50 PM

Pooches, usually the only reason a persons bf's are queried is because they have not been sighted by other bloggers Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 26, 2008 2:12 PM

In that spirit, has anyone sighted ERAL? Anyone at all?

And HELLO, Marcus, this is cyberspace....you do not have to prove your physical presence to operate in it....that's kinda the point of cyberspace. You seem to be stuck in the eighties, darl.

Perth I have absolutely no problem with anything you said, and I can't imagine why anyone would think so. Thanks for the compliment about 'outside the square' btw.
I think it would be a shame if you and Drone left the blogs, you both talk excellent sense. If you guys go, you leave even more space for the Warpeds and LarfsandBarfs of the world...is that what you want? And you don't have to 'prove' yourself to Marcus....don't let him bully you into doing things according to his values.

Grego, your last post was a hoot...lol. It's really good to laugh about this stuff. My bet is that Marcus actually sits outside quite a few playgrounds, hence his attitude to women. Just a hunch.

I am about to put up my profile but I have to warn you, not a word of it is written by me, but I claim that it entirely reflects my personality...after all, why should I reinvent the wheel blah blah...my position on this is exactly the same as ERALs. So no problem, right?

Btw, this 'alpha female' thing is going a bit too far....I've got no time for hierarchies...I have no desire to be part of one. I just don't like that kind of concept. We have come a long way since the monkeys, most of us, and mapping that sort of animal organisation onto human society.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 26, 2008 5:48 PM

I just went in my garden, coughing and spluttering and looking like a dragon, blue uggs and all and there in all it's beauty the most beautifully formed white iris ever. I have cut it and brought it inside, it's crisp white and huge with the most beautiful golden centre. The petals are frilled around the edges and it glows! Spring is here, oh thank goodness for that. And that means summer is on the way, I am so glad, now I can come out of hibernation!!!!

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 5:47 PM

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 4:09 PM

Kurli I know your not a meany & always a very good girl, sorry just a joke :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 5:25 PM

Sorry simple question. Can only Bris bloggers go to Bris meet?

Ok back to the frog!
Mmm beautiful princess for a week.
On the other hand talking frog is pretty cool. Grrrrrr

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 5:25 PM

Posted by: metalscott at August 26, 2008 4:45 PM

Metal, depends on the monkey. Have a read of The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris. It was derided when it first came out but is now a classic on human behaviour. The follow up The Human Zoo by the same author is also very good.

Human beings after all are only monkeys with a bigger brain and hotted up sex organs. Cant see what monkey blokes see in monkey girls myself whereas human females are the most beautiful creatures on the planet after tigers that is.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 26, 2008 5:20 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 2:50 PM

Perth I agree with you; from what I have seen kurli seems very cool, All I was saying it would be no fun getting wet with your cold ( Im still trying to get over the flu myself ) :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 5:18 PM

Good grief Grego - You are going to be in sooooooooooooooo much trouble, staight to the naughty chair for you.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 5:18 PM

I've got an email contact with you blueeyed, and kurli, starry, and TW. The one I don't have is woody but maybe someone else has if woody doesn't want to contact me. I am happy to be the organiser with regards to communication, through the emails.
Again, as a starting suggestion, Saturday 27 September, 7pm place to be clarified....starry, you can email me the details if you want - we are still on 'free time' with that. I also have OBD, grego and Jen if you want me to go through any of those with the details, woody.
What about people who don't blog but maybe read the blogs and might want to come along? What's the usual protocol?

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 26, 2008 5:09 PM

adds "Wild in bed. " to that list .
( its true ! i promise )
lol

I know - i know ...naughty corner ....sheesh.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 26, 2008 5:08 PM

I remember there were dinners organised by the site here in Perth and they would advertise two different restaurants, one north side of the river and one south side. I remember one was at Sails restaurant in Freo and they used to advertise for a certain amount to attend and split it equally male/female. Sounds like a good idea and a good way to mix. Unfortunately though it stopped, don't know why. It could be that it was outsourced to a co-ordinator and just didn't work but I thought it a great idea.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 5:07 PM

Amour, You are a laugh! No, I'm more palamino at the moment, not a T/bred at all. What a saga that was. Fine Cotton apparently was totally different colour to the horse raced that day. That's Qld racing for you though. I was involved in the industry for about 28 years with the QTC and the RJC with the registrations etc. Put me off betting for life. I love the horses and used to ride competetively but theracing industry, now that's another story. I don't think I want to be brown though, although any colour would be better than this yellowy white mess I am at the moment.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 5:00 PM

Sorry Mr Flynn aka: Eral I did post it in Italian and English but it did not get posted so I shall try again in English only...

LEO - The Lion
Great talker.
Attractive and passionate.
Laid back.
Knows how to have fun.
Is really good at almost anything.
Great kisser.
Unpredictable.
Outgoing.
Down to earth.
Addictive.
Attractive.
Loud.
Loves being in long relationships.
Talkative.
Not one to mess with.
Rare to find.
Good when found in the wombat hole xxx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 26, 2008 4:50 PM

i relaise that people are only using the "Alpha female/male" phrase in comparison, but does anyone else find it slightly degrading for someone to be compared to a monkey?

Posted by: metalscott at August 26, 2008 4:45 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 26, 2008 2:12 PM

Marcus, I finally figured what was between you and Waterbombe. Youv'e got the hots for her. And pretty bad if I am not mistaken.
Not that I am blaming you. She is after all your intelectual match and more, she is a class act and probably drop dead georgeous and just a bit older so she can mother you as well.

For you she is the perfect woman. No wonder you are always attacking her. You remember from kindergarten, that beautiful little girl you always liked, was the one you picked on the most.

Now there is only one problem in our kinder. There's this guy outside the kinder who is kinda good looking, very athletic and also kinda smart and he rather likes Waterbombe too and worse she really likes him. And my guess he's a kinda action guy and would sort out rivals rather than talk to em nice.

Now that's a hell of a shame. So whats a clever little boy to do but pick on the delectable object of his desire, kick sand in her face, pull her hair and do other annoying stuff. At least that way she takes some notice of him rather than ignoring him altogether.

But the more the little boy picks on the pretty little girl the more the other girls dislike him and the more isolated he gets. And his clown tricks and smart answers to the teacher become less appealing to the other kids.

So a clever little boy is best to leave the pretty little girl alone and one day a nice little girl will come along and think the sun shines out of the ar** of the clever little boy.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 26, 2008 4:42 PM

Can you let me know if there is a bloggers get together in Brisbane. Kim has my email address. I am here til the end of October at least

Posted by: blueyedblond at August 26, 2008 4:33 PM

sorry woody, perth was saying she remembers when they did, that's why I mentioned it. If we organise them, when and how?

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 26, 2008 4:31 PM

Jen hi@ 2.03pm......
you weren't serious with that comment were you??Pleez say NO!!

IaiP----------check your hotmails! ;-)

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 4:22 PM

Jen hi@ 2.03pm......
you weren't serious with that comment were you??Pleez say NO!!

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 4:21 PM

OBD@ 2.15pm .I'm not a meanie! VBG....only use water soakers to quell hotheads! VBG

IaiP I leave Oct 13 ...sorry I can't change tickets,but we gotta meet up!!
And yes,there are one (or even two) we don't need to invite to come and play!

(Please note "toybox boss" I haven't named names.......so I'se still a good girl(ROFLM) and allowed to play I hope.
(blisskiss)

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 4:09 PM

I think that last post was stopped - I shouldn't mention a trade name product, sorry Karina....just again, not September 20th if we get together, I will be in Melbourne that weekend.

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 26, 2008 3:37 PM

Hi Willow, We had a spelling property just west of Brisbane. We had horses sent to us with jockey itch, what a nightmare that is. Passed from the boots of the jockeys from one horse to another when they were track riding in the mornings. Rain scald wasn't such a problem except for the mares in the back paddock as most of the horses were stabled for the duration of their stay. 4a.m. start to get them out of the stables each morning after feed and then cleaning of the stables prior to the flies arriving. It was good, I enjoy the outdoors and freedom. Spring in Perth is lovely and I like the summer as well. We have air con in the house as not many houses here have large verandahs for some reason or other and therefore it gets very hot. Apart from the isolation here, it's a good place to live.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 3:26 PM

espritlibrefemme - RSVP doesn't organise bloggers' meetings ..... bloggers do.

Posted by: woodnwine at August 26, 2008 3:21 PM

Well,I have done all of those ordinary things but I don't consider myself ordinary....and I don't believe people who do things for causes are ordinary either.......most people just think about themselves....and working hard for your family is to be expected.

I don't have to give you directions to the comments you have made on these blogs over the past 6 weeks,but they go along these lines.................

You believe people who are on here who talk about their children and the misfortunes and tragedies are "worse than those who hide their problems".

You also believe they have an "agenda".

You come out with comments along the lines of "highly educated women", "highly flirtatious women"...in a negative way totally out of context and i have picked you up on it each time.

But what sticks in my mind the most is your totally out of line comment to Jen....saying she sounded like a "bull-terrier".

I don't have the time to go back and quote you word for word as I am expecting my next student....

I believe we will always see things differently and from a difficult angle...

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 3:04 PM

Thanks Amour, you sound very ill. I am the opposite. I am under the doohah with the electric blanket on 3, can't seem to get warm even though the sun is now shining outside. I bought a new barbecue a few days ago and the pool is nearly clean. Have a few more branches to cut off trees and determined to have a good summer this year. I really do enjoy the backyard barbie thing as I love seafood and like fresh fish plainly grilled with a squeeze of lemon juice. The WA wine is really lovely and is very good value at the moment. Evans and Tate make a Classic White which goes beautifully with seafood. Also like the good old fresh salad just with EV Olive oil and red wine vinegar dressing. Simple tastes, has to be so fresh though and love it.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 3:03 PM

Karina, if it is at all possible to arrange something for us bloggers, so we don't have to go off-site to organise any sort of get together, please, please do...but not for Sept 20th as I have to be in Melbourne then to sit an exam....

for a business course (project management...maybe WB can help me as you are a PM aren't you....not going to block up the blogs but if you have any advice on Prince2, let me know and I will pay out the stamp to contact you, if that is ok).

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 26, 2008 2:57 PM

Perth would it make you feel better if I paint you brown and call you fine cotton?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO do not go x

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 26, 2008 2:54 PM

What I am trying to say is degrees are good, no degrees are good. It's all about how you are as a person and the quality of life and the legacy you leave behind.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 2:52 PM

I know how you feel. Mildura in winter is very cold, compared to Darwin! I just look at the bright side - no Qld itch on the horses, no rain scald, you can ride all day without getting sunstroke (except in summer). And Perth in the spring is lovely - so something to look forward to very soon :)

ps. I have NO doubts as to your existance :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 2:52 PM

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 26, 2008 2:25 PM

Leo ?

[hey - I hope you thought up those starsign profiles on your own! or WB will frrrreeeeekK ! ]

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 26, 2008 2:52 PM

Hey Outback, Kurli is in contact with me thru hotmail and we only have good things to say. She may not be in town when I am in town in October so that left me a little wondering about the trip there. However, my daughter wants me to go with her as she doesn't like travelling alone.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 2:50 PM

Again, pretty impossible as there don't seem to be many bloggers in Perth and I can't understand what inplausible comments I have made. Maybe a bit too cut to the chase at times, but that's me.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 2:48 PM

Thanks Willow. I find the winters in Perth so cold. It is sunny at the moment 12.27 but only about 19 deg. The mornings are still freezing and everyone at work has a cold. Also in the winter the days are so short, it's still dark at 6.30a.m. and then it's dark again at about 7p.m. I like to pudder around after work in the garden and walk the dog before work and just feel like hibernating. I lived in Qld prior to moving here in 1995 and used to start work at 4a.m. s I worked with horses. I really enjoy the weather in Qld but this is home as I have no family back there now.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 2:29 PM

October actually Jen with my eldest daughter. She has a seminar at the Gold Coast. Haven't the dates as yet and I think it is still on. I just find it incredible that I have to prove myself. I have spoken to Virgil many times about where I walk the dog, where I work etc., etc., and I am still accused of being a puppet, of not being real etc., I honestly don't want to meet TW he is far too aggressive for me and has been too insulting in the past. I do find that referring to a 58 year old woman as doll is incredibly rude and I do find his posts so long winded and virtually going over and over about the same thing, namely himself. I think that if the general consensus is that I am not a real person then, maybe it is time that I leave the blogs. I was going to meet one blogger whilst in Brisbane but I didn't really want to meet a whole load of people with the sole intention of proving that I'm real.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 2:25 PM

Perth this will cheer you up. I am Coughing this end as well.

If I put the laptop down long enough I would carry myself to the bathroom and lie on the cold tiles.....spring has sprung with the flu.

AQUARIUS - Does It In The Water
Trustworthy.
Attractive.
Great kisser.
One of a kind.
Loves being in long-term relationships. Extremely energetic.
Unpredictable.
Will exceed your expectations.
Not a fighter, but will knock your lights out

And I will share more about me and my ice maiden bloggers xxxxx

VIRGO - The One that Waits
Dominant in relationships.
Someone loves them right now.
Always wants the last word.
Caring.
Smart.
Loud.
Loyal.
Easy to talk to.
Everything you ever wanted.
Easy to please.
The one and only. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 26, 2008 2:25 PM

brisbane bloggers get together would be great. Karina???
Perth, having any number of degrees does not negate also having all of the qualities you put up in seeming opposition. Very black and white thinking.
MTs comments are well-spoken.
woody, yes, struggling...maybe if we meet up at a brissie outing I can chew the fat with you...you are quite scarily perceptive though!

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 26, 2008 2:16 PM

ianinperth, You better watch out...........Kurli might start hunting you with a supersoaker :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 2:15 PM

Pooches, usually the only reason a persons bf's are queried is because they have not been sighted by other bloggers or, and not in your case, had an unlikely profile or made implausible commentaries. Social proof in other words is required, same as with any group interaction.
Grego. The Chimpanzee studies that identify alpha females and observe them see the female in that role as a leader, peace maker and mediator. Waterbombe is neither. She is highly aggressive towards males, judges her support position badly, is not upfront and is sometimes poorly informed. In a chimp society that behaviour would have happened only once. Human alpha females do not behave that way either and in the community we have here it is impossible to make any meaningful statement about heirarchy.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 26, 2008 2:12 PM

Perth, there is plenty of sunshine here today. I will send you some :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 2:08 PM

Perth ~ Didn't you say a while back you were going to Brisbane in Sept? Perhaps you can meet the others at the luncheon they are putting into place at the moment. Or even just meet one or two of them somewhere. Easily fixed! TW, you better get there too! lol.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 26, 2008 2:03 PM

I have a really bad cold today and spending the day in bed and so looking forward to some sunshine. However, back to the Marcus question below, how do I 'prove' without going to a lot of expense or posting very private details or what ??? This is really getting too silly for words and is certainly spoiling any positive experience I am getting from the blogs. I have hidden my picture because it is dated 2005 and therefore three years old. Thought it was a bit unfair to leave it up and I don't have any others at the moment.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 1:46 PM

Hi Marcus, I am surprised by your response, although I can see where you are coming from. However, why are my bonafides under question. Can anyone give me a reason for this except that I had a difference of opinion to one person. And if they are under question what can I do to prove otherwise. Virgil a while ago suggested that when he comes back to Perth we would meet and I readily agreed, even named a place. I just can't understand, except for almost obsessive ravings happening from one section why anyone would think I am not a real person.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 1:44 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 11:50 AM
"By hiding your profile you do not get contact but you can still blog if that's what you want to do. I can't see a problem with it"
Rubbish Perth. And you would take that line while your own bonafides are under question.
There are big problems with launching attacks on people here while you are hidden.
Using a claimed partners feelings is no excuse for not having an open profile. If you are in public view and it is only manners and ethical that those on the receiving end of comments should be able to respond and those witnessing the debate should be able to form an opinion based on an identifiable, contactable individual. And no excuse if the other parties status is unclear. Criticising someone elses profile content while out of sight yourself is the most breath taking, rank hypocrisy.
And it is just more evidence of an egregious weakness. Too cowardly to be up front with whatever partner issue there is and too weak to be identifiable and accept the criticism and opprobriom that comes with partisan comment in public. That sort of hiding behaviour is a type of theft and an unwelcome riding on the efforts of the accountable bloggers with gumption.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 26, 2008 1:32 PM

If WB has a problem with what I have said she will tell me.............it's no big thing.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 1:31 PM

There are many many people who are so attractive, with amazing personalities and highly educated who havent attained university degrees. Look at the para-olympics, look what those people have learned from life, understanding, compassion, look at how hard they have had to work and what they went without financially and emotionally. Look at their wonderful smiles, their glistening toned bodies and their attitude to life. No I have no problem giving compliments and admiring beauty when it is real and honest, no, no problem at all.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 1:30 PM

Hi Star ... there is a really great comedy bar/restaurant on the river @ Brisbane and I can't recall its name....

anyway it is a great place to pull up a stool, have a nice meal, dodge all the tools along with a great laugh...

all in all the last time I was there it was money well spent and a safe trip home......

don't bagged me out but I had to take mum for her birthday lol so got out alive, a bit twisted but had a great night xx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 26, 2008 1:24 PM

LtoL, Yes your right, The sandbox is much better today................A lttle naughty & a littel wet :), but all in all pretty good :)) !!!!

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 1:24 PM

I am not speaking for WB, I was expressing an opinion about WB.

Ordinary people to me are the people who have achieved, who work hard for their families and any other cause they are passionate about. Therefore, yes I am an ordinary person in my eyes. I just don't feel the need to yell and shove my achievements down peoples throats as I am happily secure in that knowledge and have nothing to prove.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 1:23 PM

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 12:47 PM

Ok will email RSVP Admin and get back to you all, with their answer.

I need to get back to work....

Maybe they could organise a dinner, in the 'Events Section' and we could utilise that, for a Meet and Greet, bloggers style...LOL

Posted by: starryeyez at August 26, 2008 1:19 PM

Kurli, water fights is alway a good ice breaker for hotheads............Enjoy :))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 1:17 PM

Posted by: woodnwine at August 26, 2008 11:02 AM

Woody, I am aware that Waterbombe is a real person and I have a lot of respect for what she says. Indeed, I have a track record of agreeing with her views. My post was in no way suggesting WB is not real.

I dont know about ERAL. I no longer care whether a profile is real or not or indeed if it is truthful. The only profiles which one wants to be accurate are the those that you may be interested in. As I am out of the game so to speak their truthfulness is an irrelevance to me. As long as a blogger is not being nasty I dont care what their profile is about.

The reality is that everyone will "gild the lily" a bit in their profile. You try and put your best foot forward. There is no point in blatantly lieing because that will be found out on the first date. My own dearest taken2it used a professional photo which I consider is cheating a bit.However, in real life she is better looking than her photo. But then I am biased, I totally love her.

My disagreement with Waterbombe, and it is no more than a differing of opinions, is that I dont think it is a critical issue if someone does not write the words of their own profile. I have also come to the conclusion that it is probably fairer to other bloggers that if one wants to make comments and take others to task it is appropriate to put up your profile. Who knows whether that is accurate. It is the act of putting the profile up which gives some credibility.

Marcus talks of alpha male chimps and dominant females. Whether she wants it or aspires to it, the fact is Waterbombe is the alpha female on these blogs. I guess as such I believe she should have her profile up. I believe her photos should be hidden for very sound reasions which I wont say here.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 26, 2008 1:09 PM

Iaminperth: I don't believe you need to speak for Waterbombe..................

Do you have a problem with people who are educated,attractive,have personality........?

Give people who are educated some kudos and those who try to become more educated about the world kudos........they deserve it as far as I am concerned....they have worked hard and went without an income for a long time as students.

Are you one of these people who find it hard to give a compliment on a persons "looks"? or personal achievemants?

I agree with you that Waterbombe thinks outside the square and find it interesting that you appear to accept it from her........she is no ordinary person..........unlike yourself...that is what you have stated below.

armouro...you are welcome any time!

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 12:57 PM

Good on you Mr Outback you are controlling the toybox very well everyone is playing nicely - much better! lol

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 26, 2008 12:54 PM

pssst ERAL, I think you've got something of mine in your pocket, and my gown has got a footprint on it!

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 12:51 PM

starryeyez @ 12.31:

YES please!!!

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 12:47 PM

OBD@11.37am:
Onya OBD........I LOVE water fights!
Grego.......behave yourself!No behind the shed for you....You would cause TOO MUCH mayhem!

IaiP: thanks for the info.....am busy organising trip to Japan in 6 weeks so not looking to organise Brizbloggers (yet)
I "thought" that RSVP used to organise dinners,and thought maybe Karina needed a wake-up call :-) Karina?????

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 12:45 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 11:57 AM

Thanks for the info Perth

Well Kurli, maybe we should email RSVP Admin, to organise a dinner event here in Bris?

What do you all think?

Posted by: starryeyez at August 26, 2008 12:31 PM

Grego ~ pick me, pick me. Lol. Killing myself laughing here. Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 26, 2008 12:29 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:38 PM

There is an option that allows you to not accept kisses/email/chat
That should fix the problem of receiving and having to deal with unwanted attention.

Posted by: egernia at August 26, 2008 12:21 PM

[ERAL returns from a all-nighter at "The n00ghty Coroner", tuxedo all disheveled,collar unbuttoned and lipstick stained, opened bottle of champagne in a ice bucket under his arm...]

Hheeyy - whadimizz ??
Ohhhh

hehe...
[anyone got 5 bucks i can borrow ?]

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 26, 2008 12:17 PM

WB could easily have set up a false profile on the site stating all sorts of qualifications, degrees, unnattainable beauty etc., etc. She didn't and stands her ground with a profile not visible. She is open and honest, has made a statement and will stick by it. Do I think she is a lawyer, no, she thinks outside the square far too much, not bound by precedent.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 12:03 PM

Hi Kurli, The bloggers organise their own meets e-mailing each other and organising it I think. RSVP used to have dinner events in this state where you could book in for a dinner at a large restaurant. I don't know what happened with that but they always seemed to be looking for organisers.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 11:57 AM

If your profile is visible no matter what you do you will receive replies. If you are seeing someone or contemplating seeing someone this does become a little awkward. The only response is the 'thanks, not interested, don't contact any more. This can be very hurtful to the person taking the time to send the initial response. By hiding your profile you do not get contact but you can still blog if that's what you want to do. I can't see a problem with it.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 11:50 AM

MT I am not far from you (1hours drive)
and would enjoy sharing your good company.

Set the date and I will rock up in Old Syndey town for the risk and pleasure of it all.

(And no we will not be in the naughty corner as we are good apples and will be at the nearest bar sharing good company and conversation) Just as we do here xxxx.

PS I allergic to pills so none for me thanks xx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 26, 2008 11:43 AM

Grego...........I think you want a smack! Don't you know there are spiders and snakes behind the shed?

Iaminperth: some people on here are not ordinary,personally I find interesting people more to my taste.....

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 11:43 AM

Grego, Take two if you want )))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 11:42 AM

Kurli, one super soaker is here for you right now :))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 11:37 AM

Grego, MT couldnt come - and we had to go back because it didnt work the first time :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 11:35 AM

OML: What a page to read in order to clear the nose and throat xxx

Bliss kiss to those amongst us that fought the fight worth fighting for.xx

Acceptance is given to all for the view.

Drone my dear sweet friend, you know you will always be forgiven and be guided back to the light where you should stay.

You may visit DJs in the city to contain some of that darkenss that appears from you from time to time.

The reason we like you here on this post is because we are all connected in some way to a path of growth, a hand in friendship, honesty the should never be brutal but always sent with good intentions and love.

Your risk taking has improved as has your style and you will get what you need in time.

Loved all the posting and as always enjoyed your fine company.

I dodged the fights as I was sitting at the back of the room with Steely eyes and having a coffee waiting patiently for Mt Etna to finish exploding.

The one at the back of the bar has seen the eruption before it blew its top so to speak.

Peace out bloggers and stay true to one another as we usually all do xxxxx

Peace out and bliss kisses/ waves hello back to you all. I will attend any meet in the next few months so send me an invite and I will send a RSVP reply.....it is a risk worth taking. xxxxxxxxxxooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 26, 2008 11:33 AM

Eral: you bring the pills

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 11:16 AM

Yes.....let's have a blog meet!

Who is from Sydney?

The sooner the better.....I feel like socialising....I will bring the Absynthe!!

Posted by: musicteacher at August 26, 2008 11:13 AM

Posted by: guiltypleasure at August 25, 2008 10:12 PM

I'd just like to add ..... why do these imposters/liars/deceptors bother? Is that what their lives amount to .... or is there actually a deep seated goal they are chasing? I can stay away from blogging for weeks, as I do, but come back and the same old "questionables" are still there blogging away endlessly into the night. Why? Is it an addiction, a challenge, a personality dissorder? I don't know the answer but I did think we were supposed to be on RSVP to meet people either for a relationship or for a friendship. Some of us have made some good friendships, some have formed relationships but some ...... well, I still wonder what their purpose is, really.

Posted by: woodnwine at August 26, 2008 11:08 AM

waterbomber - seems you're being challenged again. You could heavily modify your profile and remove the photo like grego suggests but what the hell would that prove?
grego - many, many people can and have vouched for the bomber .... she is real, we've met her. Has anyone met eral? I have no idea but if they have that would perhaps solve a few questions.
espritlibrefemme - nice new profile although you really do seem to be struggling with something ...... not exactly sure what.

Posted by: woodnwine at August 26, 2008 11:02 AM

I agree with junebaby @7.47am: If the profile is suss,the first meeting or phone call generally sorts that out.
OBD if you're gonna be toybox monitor may I please have a (loaded) water pistol.....to cool off some of the hot heads!! :-)

Hey I LIKE the idea of Brizzie bloggers meeting. for lunch/whatever...........can't Karina wave her magic wand and organise one pretty please?

Posted by: kurli at August 26, 2008 11:01 AM

Have ERAL, Willow and MT come back form the naughty corner yet?

OBD, you are the monitor today, can I take one of the girls to the naughty corner? Or even better can you banish us to behind the shelter shed?
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 26, 2008 10:52 AM

Guilty thank you for your post. It is refreshing to read and I think brings together the thoughts of many other genuine people. I have stopped posting on the blogs because I am always accused of being a puppet referred to as doll etc., etc. It became so obvious that it took any enjoyment out of posting for me and changed the whole tone of responses. It has baffled me that is has been allowed to continue so long by the moderator. My profile is upfront and totally honest. It neither states that I am supersonic with education, beauty or anything else. It states I hope that I am a down to earth person working full time to provide for my family. I have a love of animals obviously and mainly enjoy life. All in all pretty ordinary I think as I believe I am a pretty normal person just looking for a likeminded pretty ordinary person.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 26, 2008 10:52 AM

Just for the record Drone, if you're still reading, I submitted a post immediately after the "$5" one saying don't leave the sandpit, and don't take it personally. We all cop a pasting once in a while on the blogs. For some reason it didnt get through.

Posted by: willow29 at August 26, 2008 10:11 AM

Great story Willow, another cheerful start to the day.
Perhaps he wasn't willing to take the risk......

Posted by: amberlight58 at August 26, 2008 10:09 AM

Guiltypleasure: great post & well said. Continuing with the honesty theme..I have found that there are two ways this theme is played out on profiles. The first are the ones that are honest to the extreme.They write about what they dont want in another person..with hints suggesting how they have been hurt in the past, and how they don't want this to happen to again..so stay away if you are going to try and "fool" them again...

Then there are others who are honest and yet portray themselves as fun and playful, whose profiles are inviting & positive.

So to me its not so much about honesty....but in what vein it is portrayed.

These profiles are about creating a positive portrayal to encourage others to meet us at least once...after that it is up to each individual on a face to face basis.

I personally quite like the negative ones, who state their case up front...and I run..run away...very fast!

Posted by: femalepersuasion at August 26, 2008 10:04 AM

Jen, So true & thank you :p

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 9:53 AM

yeah, much better than mud throwing and nastiness, hey? I like you as monitor! Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 26, 2008 9:36 AM

Jen, Fun & being naughty is alway a good thing on this blog :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 9:28 AM

outbackdrifter ~ 8.30 AM. awwwww. I just wanna have fun! Will that be ok? Maybe I should get naughtie! Seems everyone else has fun with it. lol.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 26, 2008 9:14 AM

waterbombe, If I have to play the 50/50 game can I be 50% Brad Pitt & 50% oscar the grouch :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 9:12 AM

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 9:43 PM

Well said Tassie !!

My profile is 1,000.000 % all me. Why would I bother to embellish it? I've even asked non RSVP friends and work colleagues, to take a look so they can critique it. I've had private conversations with bloggers about the same topic.

Hey, but that's because I am genuine, in my search for a life partner...my profile..my life...my choice....

On the other hand, if ERAL wants to add flair to his profile, wether that be pilfering a few quotes from his peers. well that's HIS business, isn't it???

Posted by: starryeyez at August 26, 2008 9:07 AM

Grego I must be pretty simple. I still cant get over the "kick you in the nuts" part of my post.

Willow. You beautiful creature. Thank you for my morning laugh.

Hope today we all make another step towards our dreams. Stay on the path and travel safe.
Love Rod

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 26, 2008 8:43 AM

Now childen Im toybox monitor today, if your not nice, you will not get any toys to play with :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 8:30 AM

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 25, 2008 11:12 PM

Great read & right to the point

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 8:26 AM

guilty, a good summary, I think I am also in the first camp, I blog from my experiences and I am forever learning.
Seprit also a good one amf Lifebegins, I also concur.

Re profiles...bottom line is as soon as you meet someone, you will find out the truth prety quickly. So the profile may or may bot be truthful, but one or 2 meeting s will sort that out. Of course it is dishonest and bad manners to lie...but this world is made up of soooo many different people and that is what makes it all so interesting.

About meeting bloggers , call a blog meet. I went to one in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane and have met up to approx 45 bloggers. You have to use your own stamps to organise it all, but then you can put a face to the words and profile. The sydney one had bloggers from Sydney, Canberra, southcoast, brisbane and melbourne all attend.

The best thing about the blogs, meeting up and forming some wonderful friendships, with males and females...who would have thought...using stamps to meet other women, of which 2 in particular have become very close friends!!!!!

So lets get back to talking about experience, sharing and having some fun...like lifebegins said...wouldn't want to be accused of copying....have a lovely day all...jewelswhoisreal ...blisskiss to those who know me!!!!!!

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 26, 2008 7:47 AM

Grego ~ 10.05PM. You have summed up how I feel about the situation just nicely.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 26, 2008 7:44 AM

Its the Choices you make not the Risks you take that determines the outcome of your life......Like the stockmarket, its just a game of SNAKES & LADDERS, sometimes you end up back at the start....ITs not whether you win or lose, ..but how you Play the Game that really matters.

Posted by: sincrolad at August 26, 2008 6:52 AM

You know I am getting tired of the ongoing saga of real or not real profiles, hidden profiles, puppets etc.
I enjoy reading most of the blogs, even if they do diversify a bit, but learn much more about the people that blog than their profile can tell me, so...I for one dont care, I just enjoy the read and the discussions without trying to look too deeply into the character behind some screen.
Kurli...love your positive outgoing nature, along with a few others that shine as well. Come on people, chat about the topics and anecdotes that tell a story, but leave the personal questioning out of it. If you dont like a profile or are suss about it, dont go there, and skip their blogs.
Lets have some fun, some interest and some constructive chat.....Am sure thats what most of us, even the lurkers want and would join in more if they were not so afraid of the scrutiny. I love reading all the views and witicisms, but leave the rest.
Cheers all and thanks for a great insight into all of you.

Posted by: lifebegins47 at August 26, 2008 1:43 AM

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 9:43 PM:
Oh, OK, one more thing, while I'm still awake.

The stuff about my profile, and my relative lack of success on here is simply irrelevant so far as these other issues go. I'm sure lots of guys are much more successful than I am, and good luck to them. If they are not pulling their profiles off the internet, then that's great, and all to the best. And I'm sure nearly all of them aren't.

As you say, Australia is a place of free-speech, but I don't quite get what role plagiarism has to play in that equation.

Posted by: drone at August 26, 2008 1:24 AM

Eral, sorry but I had to take a look at your profile, to see what everyone was going on about but I hate to tell you this mate......your not what Im looking for..........so better luck next time :))))))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 26, 2008 12:45 AM

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 10:46 PM
I so didn't want to get involved. It's not my thing to enter into someone else's argument. If Drone hadn't of asked me directly I would have been quite happy just to plod along talking about the birds and the trees, spring in the air and love around the corner. Like I posted at 10:26 this morning.
So I would be quite happy to recant my five dollars as whilst Drone did rave on a bit, as we all can, he still wasn't a bad sort.
Me and my big mouth
Rod

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 11:59 PM

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 9:43 PM

Rod, good point. I had forgotten that.

Now ,drone, old chap, as I remember it was ISTJ who actually wrote a complete profile copy for you. And well done it was too. So if you use it you will no doubt give the lady her fair copyright attribution.

C'mon guys and gals, Kurli is right we are dead an awful long time. Lets get some of that risk going. If fear of being hurt again starts ruling our minds we will never love again.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 25, 2008 11:41 PM

guiltypleasures, how would you know what is 'authentic'?

None of us actually know anything about the others. What we have is profiles and that is all. Anything could be written. And truth is often far stranger than fiction.

Many judgments made here of profiles being deemed incredulous are made on the grounds that they are not some sort of average - if a person is authentic and has had a very successful life, they would more than likely be read as inauthentic on here. That is sad when you think of it.

I know I have had to put up with such cries of "inauthenticity" and friends of mine have said "why on earth do you continue with such narrow-minded people?", whilst others have contacted me outside the blogs and know it all to be true.

Guys on dates have come to my home and seen my 'wall of fame' of all my degrees, with the high-level titles on, plaques of awards and prizes, etc, so the people who meet me know I am authentic, but some on here would not believe any of it. So what?

And I change my name and profile because I am creative and get bored and am working at marketing myself and think of my target audience who see the same old, same old day after day. Marketability reasons, not some form of inauthentic game-playing.

And I spit the dummy sometimes, change my mind, apologise and come back. Genuine human, basically.

This is a blog on risk-taking, well we all take risks by putting ourselves out there on here, and often getting the slings and arrows thrown, which hurt, yes, but at the end of the day simply go to show us the insecurities that others are feeling in choosing to challenge anything as beyond an averaging norm by saying it must be lies. In organisational psychology they called it The Hawthorne Effect, where people were bullied and treated really badly for 'rate-busting', for going outside a mediocre pace, a norm.

This is ironic as I suspect that the actual norm of many people on here is successful (to be read very widely), highly intelligent, trailblazing, shrewd, have keen leadership competencies, are superb negotiators....let's face it, to put forward attitudes on a site that is potentially read by thousands, and potentially global, is pretty confident and out there, so why shouldn't the profiles of people who blog be really amazing??? And true.

And we still are able to show our vulnerable and playful child sides to each other. That is real relationship risk-taking. Screams of "I don't believe that!" aren't.

Why believe any of it, what anyone writes? And why NOT believe all of it? Maybe then we can start appreciating that we are all pretty 'different' sorts of people, the bloggers, and be proud to be in each other's company.

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 25, 2008 11:12 PM

A boy was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him and said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess." He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket.

The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a beautiful Princess, I will stay with you for one week." The boy took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned it to the pocket. The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a Princess, I'll stay with you and do *Anything* you want." Again the boy took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into his pocket.

Finally the frog asked, "What is it? I've told you I'm a beautiful Princess, that I'll stay with you for a week and do *Anything* you want. Why won't you kiss me?"

The boy said, "Look, I'm a graduate student. I don't have time for girlfriends, but a talking frog is really cool."

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 11:04 PM

drone at 9:07 and 9.33pm: I understand where you're coming from.

Someone rather wise said here recently that people writing their internet profiles had a choice: to describe what they believe they are, or if that doesn't seem very inspiring, to take a RISK and describe what they'd like to be like.

I've chosen the first approach. It only gets me about 2 or 3 kisses a month, and half of them are then too stingey or co-dependent to follow up with an email when I invite it. But maybe that's OK for a fat un-rich old bloke in his 70s. (You can quote me on that, WB.)

Because I boost my date rate by sending out plenty of kisses myself, and get about one date out of each 3 carefully-targeted kisses.
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I'm with you Drone about not writing your profile based on what you'd like to be, in the hope that it might get you more contacts. Very short-sighted.

Tries to be unfair competition to us honest blokes, but shoots itself in the foot, the moment she sees you. Anyone but a desperate will be insulted that you tried to pull the wool over her eyes, and call out Next!
..........................................................

But ERAL's neither of the above. Gave reality and conformity the flick, and went for blatant inyerface fantasy. What a breath of fresh air!

Imagine being a woman in his target age group, sitting at the Golden Circle bottling line and laboriusly inspecting the totally-boring passing parade of empty clone drink-bottles, looking for rejects with visible cracks, and/or dirt still inside.

Suddenly a bottle comes into view with a Chippendale hunk stencilled on it. She says "Wow!" and grabs it off the conveyor.

On the back of the bottle is a self-description which is obviously a piece of inspired fiction. Total crap. What a laugh!

A red-letter day on the bottling line! Found someone who has the sass to buck the system, and poke fun at the whole process. Hey, he'd be fun to meet!

And if you haven't read the originals, you won't know that his fine feathers are a stolen patchwork wolf-skin.
..........................................................

Drone, that sort of marketing puts everyone else's ordinary product way back there, out of sight in the shade. And I suspect that's what's really underneath a lot of your opposition to his approach.
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Actually, I'm wondering what his approach can teach me. Not an old enough dog yet, to be unable to learn new tricks.

And I remember a marketing seminar 15 years ago by John Singleton's ex-partner. "If it's real fun to deal with one firm in an industry, you better not be their boring conventional competition."

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 10:55 PM

Tassie - you won $5.

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 10:46 PM

God, Guiltypleasure, l have enough trouble remembering myself a lot of the time..........K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 10:42 PM

OK, so many of you think it is fine to rip off someone else's work and represent it as your own.

This is sickness, and you deserve all you get in life.

I'm not coming back here. Bye.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 10:36 PM

Tassie, I meet man in a bar one night who made the same choose........it ended very badly for him....................the lesson grasshopper is dont think the man trying to stop the fight, can not look after himself :))),

PS I worked bars for 7 years & most were low grade :))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 10:25 PM

Posted by drone at August 25, 2008 9:33 PM

Ahhhh yes Drone,that old chestnut about what's real and what's fakery around here.

After a couple of years blogging on various sites, its patently clear to me that people who post comments fall into two camps. There are those who write from personal experience and describe themselves and their lives from a certain authenticity. Then there are those who masquerade under anonymous surroundings. They have been known to make multiple postings under multiple profiles - they variously describe themselves as male/female, older, younger, better educated, better credentialed and they fashion a story on their personas.

Personally, I write as one who is in the first camp. I don't have the aptitude for writing in a different 'voice' nor do I have the memory to remember what lies I have said to manipulate whatever argument is being discussed. And importantly, I don't have the compulsion to write, adnauseum, dozens of posts each and every day on whatever subject is at hand.

As much as copying and pasting the writings of others in a profile 'gets on your tits' as you so eloquently describe it, far worse fakery and cynical manipulation is deployed on a continual basis. I can only think of these constant bombardments on these blogs as the efforts of intellectual minnows with the personality and magnetism of an alka seltzer - all froth and bubble and leaving a rather bilious after taste. There are a few such minnows here who seem to think that a dozen or more posts each day makes them some sort of expert in the topic at hand.

It proves no such thing. The constant personal attacks, suspicion caused by apparent non-compliance in assembling one's profile, the belittling of others and heckling from the sidelines all points to some very ugly, nasty and unattractive people here. Whether they have a profile or not means nothing to me. They have displayed themselves on these comment boards for everyone to see and regardless of their profiles, or their pictures, or their assets, or their education I am not in the slightest bit interested. Self praise is no recommendation.

Posted by: guiltypleasure at August 25, 2008 10:12 PM

OBD@9.31pm and drone @9.12pm
All I am trying to do is keep people on topic....What you see is what you get with me! NO mythical bios composed by anyone but moi.
I have NO time or patience to waste on warpers,psuedo salesmen or whatever.....I'm prepared to take the risk for friendship/love/companionship......and I get p**** off with all the c*** so many of you seem to indulge in.
Are you REALLY here to find a significant other/a platonic friend/or just start WW3 or 4.
I prefer to make love/peace....NOT verbal gymnastics

Posted by: kurli at August 25, 2008 10:06 PM

Waterbombe, has not ERAL's major crime on his profile been that he did not give credit for the source of his copy ie he ,by default, made the words his own.

What if someone got their brother/sister/friend to write the copy for their profile? Is that not much the same infringement.

Provided the photos are real, which ERAL, maintains they are, I dont think what he has done is a hanging offence or even worth a few lashes much less the keel hauling that you seem to want to do to him.

Whilst the book was good, Salinger's prose is nothing exceptional. I was 15 when I read the book and as I recall the only thing memorable about it was what the hero did with the family lump of steak.

ERAL's choice of monicker is debatable in its effectiveness. A bloke I knew started a used car yard and called it Ripp-Off motors and then wondered why he went out of business. ERAL, may indeed be a Wombat but the reaction by the femmes to his photos suggest he would be given a chance to strut his stuff so perhaps his monicker is not as silly as it appears.

He has also had a good track record of insightful and interesting posts over quite a period. From these posts I believe fellow bloggers have been able to get a general view of his character and my interpretation is that he is admired.

In the sum of all these things ERAL's "transgression " is extremely minor and in reality no worse than someone utting up a slighly out of date photo.

Your robust querying of ERAL's profile does leave your own position open to questioning,in particular your keeping your profile hidden. I think you now have a credibility gap, not a chasm, but definitely a noticeable gap. I understand and sympathise with your assertions of not wanting "kisses" and even that your partner is uncomfortable with your profile being revealed. I believe,however, that you should have your profile open, albeit with pictures hidden. You can state that you are just on RSVP for blogging. That way you can ignore any kisses as the kisser does not warrant any form of response.

The issue with your partner is an irrelevance. I am sure you love him and he loves you and a photoless profile can in no way even ripple your relationship.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 25, 2008 10:05 PM

Aqua, you do what ever feels right to you, It you who has to feel right about it, no one else......................To yourself be true,(yes everyone thats a Quote ))) )

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 10:03 PM

Outback.
Got to be the guy at the front jumping around. The dude with the cold steel eyes is one dangerous fellow.
Cheers Mate

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 10:01 PM

Aquamanda, that is the essence of it all......"Heck l have no idea what l'm doing."...............Love it..................K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 10:01 PM

Posted by: aquamanda56 at August 25, 2008 9:36 PM:
I thought your profile was lovely, and *real*. That will mean something to someone who is right for you and shares the same interests.

I thought the photos were fine, too, apart from a couple (that had more to do with how they were shot than anything). Though I suspect I'm not an authority on photos, given the ones I have up myself.

I've always liked your posts on here, so, really, good luck!

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 9:55 PM

Thanks for the advice, drone.So , how does new topic get started?Does rsvp start them all when they feel like a new topic?
Way to go Kurli, I like your way of thinking!
All the best with the new man aquamanda!
The exciting stuff in life doesn't usually just end up landing in your lap, so to speak, you have to get out there, find what you want and go after it with all you've got, risk-taking all the way. Bring it on, I say!

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 25, 2008 9:55 PM

Drone..................tell me what is so importence about whether someone prolife is true or not...........how will affect anyone but themself....................come on tell us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

very sad & small minded

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 9:48 PM

Oh dear Drone. Now I have to say something sensible and I was having such fun being silly.
Wasn't there a whole blog dedicated to you not so long ago assisting you in your profile. From memory didn't you ask for help from others on this site. From memory also, I recall you getting a little jacked off with the endless amounts of suggestions. Now if you had actually used any of the ideas that people so kindly offered, then would you not only have forfeited some of the "true you" or some of your originality.
Last I looked, Australia was a place of free speech, ideas and thinking. So in reality it matters not what I think of Eral personally
but the fact that he has the right, as we all do, to say and do as he pleases.
So long as it is not used for malicious intent.
Then I would have to ask amourmoi08 to either sweet talk him into correction otherwise just kick him in the nuts.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 9:43 PM

Genuine doesn't seem to get me anywhere, maybe it doesn't look genuine...(shrugs shoulders) I've passworded my pictures for a bit while I get some better pictures taken...not studio ones either...I guess that could take awhuile. And I also met someone (a professional man who doesn't show his picture either) who mentioned he uses RSVP so thought i would lay low LOL... Heck I have no idea what I'm doing :|

Posted by: aquamanda56 at August 25, 2008 9:36 PM

Posted by: kurli at August 25, 2008 9:08 PM:
If you think this is just about scoring points, then you have failed to grasp the import of the issue we've been discussing.

Personally, I couldn't care less about scoring points. But dudes who put up dodgy profiles get on my tits, so to speak.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 9:33 PM

Kuri, I seconded that motion :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 9:31 PM

Tassie...........Who would you chose ????

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 9:25 PM

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 25, 2008 8:00 PM:

I think these thinks always end up going a bit off-topic. There are so many things people want to talk about, and only a few "topics" allowed for them, so that's kind of how it goes.

If you want to post something about risk, then fire away, I guess would be my best suggestion.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 9:12 PM

hey!
are you guys/gals here to find the "significant other" or just score points??

So many of you seem to have lost sight of the original goal of this site.
Maybe you are all "navel gazing" too deeply.

Life is an ADVENTURE........a RISK ! the UNKNOWN........
Loosen up........and ENJOY!!(you are dead a very long time)

Posted by: kurli at August 25, 2008 9:08 PM

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 7:56 PM:
Regardless of what you think of ERAL from you interactions with him on here, do you actually think it's OK to put up a profile written by other people? Given that there are a lot of genuine people on here looking for something real, do you reckon it's OK to mislead like that?

I must say that I am slightly depressed by what I am learning about what people will tolerate so long as the guy 'seems like a good bloke/his pictures are "hot", or whatever'.

Either way, it's a good education for me.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 9:07 PM

kurli at 7:55pm etc: I heard you the first time, ma'am.

Planet Queensland mainly, but I did have 10 days on Planet Perth in 1959. Fancied one of the locals that I'd met in Bris a couple of months before, and followed her home as soon as I could arrange some holiday leave from Golden Circle. A very sweet-natured big redhead.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 8:57 PM

Outback. Thats cause you are a really nice bloke.
I know what you are trying to do. Kinda like just before a bar fight breaks out. Who ya gonna go. The guy at the front, jumping up and down, telling everyone how good he is or the guy sitting in the back with steel cold eyes not saying a word.
I know who I would chose. (don't know what relevance that has to do with anything just always wanted to say it).

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 8:56 PM

Can we have fictional characters?
50% Princess Leia and 50% Lara Croft :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 8:53 PM

eatsrootsandleaves at 7:17 PM : Yes. Very well scripted. Always the gentleman, that Obe. Would never do more to a female enemy than disarm her.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 8:36 PM

istj54 at August 25, 2008 8:06 PM : Nice to see you back recently, J, but I think Dorothy Parker (the american 1940s scriptwriter and sharptongue, not the 2000s gay Aussie poet) was a oncer.

I liked best this undergrad one-liner of hers: She was at Yale or Harvard, and was invited to a prom at the other uni. Looking around at the local co-eds, she remarked "If all the girls in this room were laid head to toe, I wouldn't be surprised."

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 8:30 PM

G´day Tassiedude, Hay look if there have a go at me there not having a go at each other :))), but to tell you the truth this catfight is getting very long winded & BOOORRRRRRRYYYYYYY :))))))))))))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 8:20 PM

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 7:56 PM "Collateral Damage"... LoL

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 25, 2008 8:18 PM

what is been forgoten here is that we are all just who we are no more & no less, we are all individuals with all the baggage that comes with that individual.

Thats what life is is all about :))))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 8:13 PM

I'm happy to say that I am 100% me...I have never in my life wanted, or needed, to be anyone else...not even for a day...I can see no problem in lifting others' words if they do, indeed, express something that captures you, or your imagination, humour??
Some people have others write their profiles for tehm. There is nothing at all wrong in this. People have job applications written for them too. I bet that withing one email teh true nature of the person is revealed. I usually forget what a person has on their profile by this time anyways...it matters more what their ensuing letters reveal than their advertising space.
Maybe I am 50% Virginia Wolfe and 50% Dorothy Parker:))

Posted by: istj54 at August 25, 2008 8:06 PM

Drone, I dont waste my stamps, everyone that I have messaged on this site been well spent, some have come to nothing & some have become friends, every interaction with anyone is worth something & with that its worth the time you spent with that people, there are two types of profile on this site, one that tell it like it is & one that tell it like they want to be.......................I have no problems with ether :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 8:05 PM

Goodness me, it's all go here in the sand pit! Just popping head in the door , so to speak, seems a bit risky! Speaking of risk, isn't that the topic we are meant to be discussing in here? May be this topic is all-talked-out, and being the newbie that I am, i don't know how a new topic is started.Can anyone tell me?

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 25, 2008 8:00 PM

Hay Outback. Don't worry about it! This sort of eruption happens all the time. This is actually quite a mild one. I have seen them go for three four days takes out one or two bloggers but unfortunately there are always three or four to replace them......
Anyway I still got my five bucks on ERAL

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 7:56 PM

TW@6.54pm: "silly as a hatful of bums.............." what planet were you on??

Posted by: kurli at August 25, 2008 7:56 PM

TW@6.54pm: "silly as a hatful of bums.............." what planet were you on??

Posted by: kurli at August 25, 2008 7:55 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:34 PM:

So let me ask you...

Do you want to waste your stamps on women whose profile is 100% (or close to that) pulled from quotes off the internet?

Is that how you want to start something? With someone who couldn't even put things in their own words?

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 7:53 PM

MT I know I can...........by the way I hope that you & amour are very happy to night in the naughty corner :)))

PS three kiss are better then I did today, helps to show the pics once & awhile :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:49 PM

eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 7:17 PM: We were idealistic teenagers, comfortable about being silly, but trying to keep far away from even thoughts about the ugliness that the world was full of.

When I found a beautiful-natured young nurse for my next girlfriend, my mates forbade me to bring her out at night with them and their girlfriends, just because she was well on the aesthetically-challenging side of plain. So I didn't go out with them for a couple of months till she'd moved on.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 7:49 PM

I like this game on here....I want to be 50% Madonna (the songster with the bod and the attitude) and 50% Boadicea who was one H*** of a woman and seemed to have a pretty good time out on those Gaelic battlefields, and couldn't give a rat's whatsit about what anyone thought of her...come to think of it, Madonna and Boadicea may just be the same person???

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 25, 2008 7:49 PM

Oh goodie. Is there going to be a play. Can I be a jedi please.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 7:49 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:30 PM:

See, that's great. Already, I've been accused of being a nerd, obnoxious, a girl, and now not human.

I guess they can't all be right... (well, not the girl and the non-human, I guess... those two are kind of in opposition).

In contrast, I don't think I've pushed too much invective around. Sure, I may have a penchant for non-cobbled together profiles...

So sue me. :)

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 7:42 PM

Waterbombe, I will let you in on a little secret............I like who I am now but if I want to be bobo the clown I would be happy with that too :))))))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:41 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 7:17 PM:

See, that's quite good. Admittedly, it's not quite in the Salinger/Myers class, but there' something there.

You could write your own profile after all.

Why don't you do it?

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 7:36 PM

Waterbombe, I love a joke but when it go´s on for days on end, it stop being funny

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:34 PM

Well okay, Waterbombe, if you insist...
I would like to be 50% Angelina Jolie, for the body, the hair, the lips and boobs, oh and Brad, but NOT 6 kids ta very much, or the tatt that used to say Billybob, and the other 50% maybe, um well maybe someone noble like Dr Fiona Wood, a greater person doesn't exist in Australia in my terribly humble opinion........K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 7:34 PM

Karen much better :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:32 PM

Drone are you human ?

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:30 PM

Outbackdrifter:.....you are more than welcome at any time to cut in and comment on "Risky Life".

Willow: naughty stuff in the naughty corner...very naughty.

I have received 3 kisses already from men telling me could have fun together!!!! I am sure we could but I am not that type of girl!!!

Willow.....I think my amour is going to put me in the naughty corner by myself tonight!

We need a new blog topic!!!!!!!

Ring,Ring,Ring,Ring,Ring..........

Bye for now!

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 7:27 PM

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 6:54 PM

wasn't it "as a ugly as a hat-full of a***holes" ?

But thats wasn't me either ....

Omg ! who the hell am i ??
Help me Obi ONE ! - your my only hope!

Obi-Wan: [intervening] This little one's not worth the effort. Now come, let me get you something.
[Dr. Drone shoves ERAL across the room and pulls out a blaster]

[Obi-Wan pulls out and ignites his lightsaber. In a flash, Dr. Drone and his alien companion, Whata Dumbe, are on the floor with a slashed torso and a severed arm respectively]

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 7:17 PM

Outback, c'mon, lighten up a bit, and think about the positive side. Who would you like to be? You can be 50/50 anyone you like. Have a bit of a laugh with it. If I had time, I'd come up with two people 50/50 for Marcus, just to have a bit of a (goodnatured) go. Would anyone else like a try? Auntykaz? I have to go out now....see you tomorrow if the job doesn't get me first.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 7:15 PM

Ha, Willow, l think he is telling us to shut up.......okay OBD, l will put away my pom poms and outfit, and put my other hat on........okay, serious Karen is here.........K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 7:10 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 6:16 PM:

Some arguments are worth having.

How is arguing about an important issue different to the constant complaints about people who didn't reply, people who weren't what they said they were, etc... that goes on here all the time?

This blog was always full of negatives, as far as I can see.

A robust argument about a general issue that is important, seems to me to be worth having.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 7:09 PM

waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:49 PM : I can hardly wait.

And it'll take some of the heat off your long-suffering bloke, unless it shoots you into the top hundred. Which it will.

PS: True copy of the ERAL format please: all borrowed words, but made up for and authenticated by some relatively revealing photos of the real you .....

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 7:09 PM

lol, esprit...very good!

Don't worry drone, I am going to 'cite my sources on the site' (try saying that when you are drunk) and I am doing it partly for a joke but partly also to make a point....oh where was I ...god I am lost in lawyerland....oh, yeah, it's a joke. I really am like Princess Di/ MT in nature....I just asked my neighbours and they said "why, you're the sweetest dang gal in the whole nayborehood, honey" and that's true, I'm always popping over with scones and bandaids to anyone in need, I'm a really good listener and SOOOOO caring ...I'm so totally Mother Teresa you wouldn't believe it. That's in real life that I'm like that, not on the blogs of course. So I think my profile should reflect the real me, which is best achieved through plagiarising the words of others, which is quite an understandable thing to do, isn't it, Eral?

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 7:06 PM

Willow Im looking for it too, sounds like a good place to be at the moment

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:05 PM

Drifter, what are you trying to say? LOL
*ducks the missiles*

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 7:03 PM

waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:22 PM : And when you're bad, you're quite delicious! ROFLMBO

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 7:01 PM

Waterbombe, eatsrootsandleaves & there cheer squads WE GET IT.............You dont like each other, NOW stop !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 6:58 PM

eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 2:20 PM: In the 1950s it used to be 'silly as a hatful of bums'.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 6:54 PM

ps, what does one do in a naughty corner?

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 6:50 PM

laughsandtalks at August 25, 2008 1:25 PM: Thank you Marcus - you can always be reliedon to debunk a balloon or two.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 6:50 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:49 PM

I know the real me...exactly as Eral says he knows him...and I'm 50/50 Princess Di and Mother Teresa, according to me.

Princess Di you may be WB...lol...but Mother Teresa you are not.

There was only one of her....sadly never to be repeated...God Bless her :)

Posted by: starryeyez at August 25, 2008 6:49 PM

FP, there is nothing noble about portraying oneself honestly. One would think it common sense to be yourself on a profile that is written about you. Well not you personally, but you get my drift??

How silly of me to think that someone's profile would actually be about them.......I can't believe l made that error.......and yes my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek.....Yours in cynicism............K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 6:49 PM

You crack me up WB...love your dry, laconic humour.
And LAT, your exposition on traidic simulacrum...I know of a thriving research group in the UK, looking (through postnarrative deconstructive "I"s) at the art of organisation, who would probably give you a forum and maybe you would end up as an invited pleniary speaker at a top international conference, all on the basis of your obvious neo-post-existentialist critique of the codification processes of Baudrillard's exogenesis of rsvp as an aesthetics forum on ethical procreation recreational actions...don't get too excited though, because you would be asked to submit a narrative critique for e-publication and would be teleconferenced to deliver the critical debate via Skype, fitting the UK timeframe of course (as post-colonialism is alive and well and living in Dulwych) but that would probably be ok, as you could use your knowledge of E=mc2 to appropriate the most authentic (sic) string link to ensure that your delayed insomnia kicks in just at the point of the critical delivery of the critique's reflexivity. Then step back for the accolades and worship of teen dolls, and your evolutionary dreams would be approaching fulfillment...virtually there in fact!

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 25, 2008 6:37 PM

ERAL at 11:41 AM : Thanks. Talking of risks with grey nurses - I often fancy them. Also like grey teachers and grey shrinks.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 6:37 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:49 PM:
"No, there's absolutely nothing wrong with me doing that, I can tell it will be quite ok, because heaps of you guys think it's perfectly fine for Eral to do this.... so I'll go ahead with it. Watch this space. Give me a couple of days, I'm a bit busy at work at the mo."

It would be a waste of time.

The only reason people feel the need to defend him on here is that they think that they have gotten to know him over a period of time on the blogs.

If some guy emailed them on RSVP, and two emails into the correspondence, they discovered that the entire content of his profile was written by someone else, I imagine they would feel quite differently.

This issue is a matter of general principle, and it is not really about any one guy.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 6:33 PM

Im disillusioned - no Shrek, no Jeff Vader - is there a Darth Vader? Who is in charge of this Death Star anyway?

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 6:27 PM

WB - I met Princess Di and nice though she is, if I were a bloke, I wouldnt have wanted to go out with her. Mother Teresa either actually. Maybe try Jennifer Hawkins and Angelina Jolie.
I look forward to your new profile- I'm sure you'll carry it off with aplomb :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 6:25 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:49 PM:

I wouldn't go so far as to assume that the photos are fake. I have clear evidence that the text is fake, but until google invents picture-recognition, there's no way of telling with photos.

I don't imagine that this stuff about profile plagiarising will extend much, if at all, beyond the life of this thread. I think everyone has been able to have their say on here.

If you think that putting together profiles by other people is OK, then your defences are well and truly down, re. being manipulated and played. Good luck!

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 6:25 PM

Has anyone there ever wondered why there is only a handful of us posting on all the blogs when it belongs to site with a huge number of members.....Hmmmmm, If you look at the posts for the last 48 hours might tell you why

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 6:16 PM

I've decided to make up my profile composed entirely of quotes by Mother Teresa and Princess Di, then grab a photo off the internet and paste it on my profile. On the blogs I'll claim it all represents the real me, and cite your profile as justification for making my profile that way, Eral. Don't argue with me about it, now, guys...how can you... I reckon Mother Teresa and Princess Di represent the real me, the one you don't know (how could you....you don't know me, do you?...if you say you do, are you just going on hunches or gossip?) I know the real me...exactly as Eral says he knows him...and I'm 50/50 Princess Di and Mother Teresa, according to me.

Of course, if a man actually wanted to date a woman who was a combination of Mother Teresa/Princess Di, he might get a bit of a shock if he "kissed" me and then we met ... it might become clear to him on the date that I'm slightly delusional... he might even have preferred that I'd written my profile myself to save him the trouble of actually meeting me ... would he feel led down the garden path at all?

No, there's absolutely nothing wrong with me doing that, I can tell it will be quite ok, because heaps of you guys think it's perfectly fine for Eral to do this.... so I'll go ahead with it. Watch this space. Give me a couple of days, I'm a bit busy at work at the mo.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:49 PM

Oh doh how slow am I, i just got it WB very clever and funny. TD maybe think about NZ and sheep and you may get the idea of what "bugger" means. LOL

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 25, 2008 5:45 PM

I agree OBD - LOL have you lot swallowed dictionaries??
C'mn TD you know what bugger means!! If not look up that awful site that someone suggested yesterday about players it is sure to have that stuff on there.

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 25, 2008 5:39 PM

My profile is up for those who would like to take a peek! I am off to work.Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 1:46 PM
In saying this Musicteacher assumes that her profile will tell us a fair amount about her...and, provided she has written a reasonable amount, it will, because we can deduce quite a bit about her from WHAT she writes and also from the WAY she writes it. With your profile, Eral, someone else chose WHAT to write and the WAY to write it. I could deduce quite a bit about Salinger and Mike Myers from your profile but very little about you. If I was interested in dating I would want to know more about a person than if he could copy-and-paste electronic documents.

My profile was up all day yesterday....quite a few people looked...I don't leave it up much because my partner doesn't like it and also I get kisses and emails from guys and I don't have the time or the wish to deal with them.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:38 PM

WB. What does Bugger mean? Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 10:24 AM
I am having a really busy day at work but ,Tassiedude, I thought I'd just say that in NZ bugger means larger. Tassie is so close to NZ I thought that might be helpful.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 25, 2008 5:22 PM

You know everyone I great to come home from hard day at work to find the kids playing as nicely as yesterday :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 5:05 PM

Marcus,But according to outbackdrifter the subject is interpolated into a savage capitalist paradigm of narrative that includes language as a whole.
Is that want I was saying ..................... Gee Im smart :)))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 5:00 PM

OK OK lol - lets move on to next item on the agenda. ( damn - now i'll have to postpone my massage ! )

For those of you who are just tuning in - I am NOT JEFF VADER (nor am i Mr Stevens) nor am i his brother, DR EVIL .... !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 4:55 PM

"Can Willow come too ? hehe..." Eral, Musicteacher has an amour already, it might have to be just us...

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 4:45 PM

Oh well then Marcus, that makes me feel all the better....that l am being questioned and invited to email someone that in reality isn't real....
RSVP being the forum in which this reality is set.....................K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 3:38 PM

The risk with online dating is that it's easy to get into a cycle of just feeding people's narcissistic emotional supply; including one's own. You're able to massage each other's self-esteem in virtual reality to a fevered pitch, without having to deal with daily obstacles of real life interrupting. If you finally meet and the appearance and life doesn't match the magic of your virtual lover's psyche, people stand to get badly hurt.

Posted by: capriciousimp at August 25, 2008 3:28 PM

ERAL, one would think that if you are putting yourself out there on RSVP that you would write about yourself in your profile, not simply copy the words of another.....

Caricature...an apt expression or poor choice of words on your behalf there??

I actually found your profile more amusing than interesting, seeing as you asked.....As for spending a stamp to find out more about you, why, that is why l asked here...fairly simple a question l would have thought.....Stamps l will save for something more to my liking.........

Marcus yet again a post that is worth framing...you had me in stitches, darl, something that is good for the soul...................K
....................K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 3:27 PM

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 25, 2008 5:50 AM

Eral your a naughty boy and I shall have to put you in the naught corner for now with Music Teacher so that you can lead a life that sounds so exciting that I am nearly envious of the exchange of friendship and flirting......never hurts anyone so keep it up.xxoo

Can Willow come too ? hehe...

( now wheres that damn wah wah pedal when i need it ...?)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 3:26 PM

ERAL I still think you look like a youngish Midge Ure (I think he's in his late 50's early 60's by now). I saw him in concert in 1987. HUGE compliment to you.

Not simualcrum but genetics.

Posted by: egernia at August 25, 2008 3:18 PM

Thank you Marcus :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 2:50 PM

marcus...clear as mud say jewels with glazed over eyes....must of had a goldfish moment and missed the important stuff!!!! bugger....have a lovely arvo...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 25, 2008 2:39 PM

kaz you ae totally correct, your profile is of you, written by you, and mine is of me...written by me!!!!

capriciousimp , what you said is so so true, online dating is no harder or easier than the pick up at the pub dating, as both ways you have to take time to get to know each other.

eral. i happen to think that you are real, the photo's are pretty good(read hot)....everyone gets this at some stage in blogsville....like is he/she real or not ...hope you don't make a liar out of me now....have a lovely afternoon all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 25, 2008 2:38 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 1:47 PM:

"Is it because you feel that i might have sort of advantage; that my caricature is more interesting to others, than your own more 'realistic' portrayals?"

I really like your profile. I would say it's much better than mine. And so it should be, given who its actual authors are. I should say, though, that I liked the segue between the Salinger bits and the Myers bits. That was nicely handled.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 2:36 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 1:22 PM:
"Why should i reinvent the wheel if another already does the job i need it to? Musician copy licks/trade phrases and progressions all the time ! Chefs use recipes from previous masters etc ..."

"The job I need it to?"... and what, precisely, is that job in this case? That's right, attracting women. Except that you know, that due to the conventions in play on here, people are *not* expecting someone else to have written your profile.

So, even if you are right, that we are all just a jumbled up mix of pre-existing ideas, beliefs, social conventions, and so on, in fact, none of us are the same mixture of those things. It's that sense in which each of us is different.

And I don't think a 50/50 mix of Salinger and Mike Myers is likely to be anything like a good representation of who one person is.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 2:30 PM

K...How can you make a comment about Eral without having met him ? It's noble of you to have portrayed yourself honestly, as you see it, but that is just your perception after all..so to comment about him is being judgemental. Unless you have met him of course. What do you go on..a hunch? gossip....? Please elaborate.

According to RSVP everyone has the right to portray themselves in a profile for blogging as they choose. I like his posts. I like him.

Posted by: femalepersuasion at August 25, 2008 2:28 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 25, 2008 1:25 PM

(_E=mc2_)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 2:26 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 25, 2008 1:25 PM

or as Kenny would say ...." It's as silly as a bum full of smarties."

Cheers Marcus!

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 2:20 PM

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 12:51 PM:

I think it's true that no one creates anything from the ground up, without influences, without precedents.

Take the sentence, "Small elephants sometimes trumpet on Pluto, although they'd prefer to be sleeping peacefully somewhere in another galaxy".

That sentence has probably never been uttered or written before, but it is made up pre-existing elements arranged in a certain way, according to grammatical rules. So, yes, while it is not completely original (in the sense that nothing could be, by the way), it is nevertheless new.

I don't think the truth that nothing is completely original means that, therefore, anything goes. No one would think it legitimate if I downloaded a score of a Beethoven symphony off the web, and tried to pass it off as my own.

Sorry, I don't get your point about sarcasm.

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 2:17 PM

auntykaz at August 25, 2008 12:58 PM

"Why don't you come up with a profile that is you?"

It IS him Kaz and it works for him. But in a different way to what you are comfy with dear.

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 25, 2008 2:03 PM

Marcus.... Makes perfectly good sense to me.
Good one....

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 1:56 PM

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 12:51 PM

Exactly !
Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 12:58 PM

What is so wrong with irony and/or parody ??
Shouldn't i just do anything what amuses me and some others - isn't that what fun is ?
Have you never gone to a costume party ?
A mask can be very liberating and a lot of fun! (incidentally the pictures are ALL ME, so i'm NOT hiding )

Is it because you feel that i might have sort of advantage; that my caricature is more interesting to others, than your own more 'realistic' portrayals?

What makes you think the "normal" pallid descriptions most people present are accurate anyhow? From what i read - not many are.

K - If you really want to find out more about me then send me a email - like some others here have done . Or is the price of a stamp too high for your curiosity?

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 1:47 PM

My profile is up for those who would like to take a peek!
I am off to work.

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 1:46 PM

Narratives of meaninglessness
"Sexuality is part of the futility of narrativity and RSVP blog connectivity," says Baudrillard. The characteristic theme of the works of ERAL is not narrative, as Drone would have it, but postnarrative. However, the example of expressionism which is a central theme of Tarantino's Four Rooms emerges again in Reservoir Dogs, although in a more submaterialist sense that contextualises profile content appropriation as a predominant concept. But MusicTeacher promotes the use of predialectic narrative to attack hierarchy.If expressionism holds, ERAL contends, we have to choose between pretextual depatriarchialism and dialectic theory.

ERAL examines the dialectic paradigm of discourse, and suggests the use of precapitalist constructive theory to modify class. One is faced with a choice: either reject expressionism or conclude that narrative must come from communication. But the main theme of Waterbombe's essay on the RSVP profile paradigm of narrative is the meaninglessness of structural society.

MusicTeacher's model of expressionism suggests that the establishment is capable of intention. However, the subject is contextualised into a capitalist paradigm of narrative that includes sexuality as a totality. "Society is fundamentally a legal fiction," says ERAL.

Drone states that the works of Tarantino are modernistic. But promotes the use of Waterbombeist camp to deconstruct outmoded perceptions of narrativity. Many structuralisms concerning not discourse, but prediscourse may be discovered. Therefore, ERAL suggests the use of the capitalist paradigm of narrative to read and modify society.

Any number of theories concerning triadic simualacrum exist. But according to outbackdrifter the subject is interpolated into a savage capitalist paradigm of narrative that includes language as a whole.

That should clear a few things up. Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 25, 2008 1:25 PM

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 12:18 PM

Indeed - we are all amalgamations of other people -variations on a theme - made of influences and imitations - created by smoke and mirrors.

The inner workings of a person is vastly different to the 'mask' projected outward.

And what of my having copied that definition?
Why should i reinvent the wheel if another already does the job i need it to? Musician copy licks/trade phrases and progressions all the time ! Chefs use recipes from previous masters etc ...

You are really becoming quite the bore with this rhetoric of plagarism!

"Ideas improve. The meaning of words participates in the improvement. Plagiarism is necessary. Progress implies it. It embraces an author's phrase, makes use of his expressions, erases a false idea, and replaces it with the right idea." - Guy Debord

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 1:22 PM

I don't know I go away for a few days, have a little flue and recovery and come back to finding you lot getting stuck into each other!

What about we challenge each others thoughts with argument rather than attacking the messengers!

Posted by: creativestuart at August 25, 2008 1:17 PM

When you date in the real world you learn the bad stuff about people gradually. Or you reject people who could be great because you only see them at face value. Online dating is no easier. You can connect with someone deeply in an online encounter from the outset, only to discover just how incompatible you are when you get together in real life.

Posted by: capriciousimp at August 25, 2008 12:58 PM

How entertaining....not.

One question ERAL. it may be a simple one, well actually it is....

Why don't you come up with a profile that is you?

Doesn't matter either way to me, but if our profiles are meant to truly reflect us, (l mean hey, isn't that what it is really about?)
what is wrong with yours being you??

Memo to all. My profile is up. Has been written by my good self to reflect ME, not a character in a novel. Or a Mike Myers movie. Nothing wrong with that thing that we all say we want..Honesty...am l right in saying that?????..........K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 25, 2008 12:58 PM

Drone: sarcastic remarks from a male can be seen as feminine?

Let me ask you.........do you believe that every melody you make up is original?

How do you compose your music? Do you strum a few chords on your guitar...the traditional primary triads....I IV V? and sing a tune to go along with it,or the other way around?

Are you a TRUE composer,one who understands the elements of music(including how to read it) or do you do everything by ear.Do you actually use a score or do you jot down Capital letters on a scrap of paper?

Wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!! we all pick things up from our enviroment and from those things that that inspire us etc.

What have I risked.........never in the future having the chance to go out with a "girl" like you!

How do you know,that you haven't heard the music before,and believe that your music may be original?

Do you get my point?

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 12:51 PM

Wombat at August 25, 2008 11:15 AM
Post Modernism.
Don't you love it.
That 3rd order simulacrom reminds me of
the story about Groucho Marx of the nose and moustache. He went on a cruise, and in honor the ship held a Groucho Marx look alike contest. Groucho entered and came third.
Man bites shark. Grey nurse sharks. They are highly endangered and strictly protected. We are far more dangerous to them than they ever where to us.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 25, 2008 12:40 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 11:15 AM

From what i've seen - most of the members are of the second order !

so what is it to be - the RED pill or BLUE pill ?
( i know MT - i'm not supposed to offer them to anyone older than a teenager - but maybe the ONE is in here? lol )

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 12:40 PM

Risks on the bloggies:

It has happened to me,it's happened to Eral,it happens a lot here................People taking the risk of questioning someone's authenticity........

We DO end up going off track,we end up making people angry and hurt.

If you are going to take the risk of questioning,and trying to demeen THAT person on here......nothiing positive will come out of it.

We are communicating on a computer....the ultimate stage.............None of us can expect to see people as they really are....even if you sleep beside them for 50 years.......

Personally,I risk putting myself at risk of being attacked by people I don't know whenever I log on to this site....risk having to use my emotional energy trying to overcome the the annoyance,irritation i sometimes get..............don't all of us????? Ahhh yes.....and I don't believe people who say they don't sweat the small stuff....if that is the case....they are not thinkers,or they are liars........none of us are in a position to completely wipe another person off....

I don't like being attacked,I don't like to see people attacked....I don't stand by silently,it is our/role to speak up if we see something is wrong.

So there!Still trying to have my profile viewable....what a waste of time!

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 12:37 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 11:15 AM:

So do you genuinely believe that stuff by Baudrillard? Is he right; I mean, there are a lot of philosophers out there saying different things. Anyway, do you think this means that there really is no such thing as plagiarism, and by extension, no such thing as original thought, or an identity that belongs to one person.

Oh, sorry, my mistake. I thought you might have actually read Baudrillard, but I see that you cut and pasted that stuff from a website on the Matrix.

Wake up, Neo... :)

Posted by: drone at August 25, 2008 12:18 PM

Eral: I don't approve of such name calling from a gentlman.....

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 11:56 AM

Jeez you guys, I thought we'd finished that topic last night!

Posted by: willow29 at August 25, 2008 11:43 AM

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 2:06 AM

I understand; a pragmatic overview.

Nothing of fear and risk; just mild annoyance at the unsettling motion of the waves and the tide.
But an old surfer like you doesn't blame the ocean for being dumped by a closeout.
Just your own misjudged selection of which wave you tried to ride.
And theres no stopping you now is there ? Rain or shine,summer or winter, your up at dawn and out again at sunset.

Yes there are sharks - but theres more chance of you dying in your bathroom than being mauled by a grey nurse.

and yes sir- you are setting a fine example to your mates.

hang ten.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 11:41 AM

Welcome, to the "Desert of the Eral" !

The basic tenet of Baurillard's philosophy: the concept of the three orders of simualcrum.

The first order consists of imitation that has substance, that refers to an original work, like a painting or a manuscript. An example might be a hand-rendered reproduction of a famous painting. This reproduction, or counterfeit, represents the original, which preceded it.

The second order of simulacrum is mass production. There is no original work for the items to represent, and the reproductions are all of equal importance.

The "desert of the real" refers to the third order of simulacrum. The third order is that of the "hyperreal", and need not bear any resemblance to anything in the real world. If it does seek to imitate reality, it often does too good a job.

According to Baudrillard, postmodern society has rejected the concept of an "original," for something that represents a thing in a more authentic way than itself.

Currently, in the third order of simulacrum, simulacra are more real than the original code they imitate, if in fact they imitate any at all, and the third-order simulacra is often the only existing representation.

Stinkbombe
I don't expect a "boring pedant" (philistine) to understand the abstract, but to make such a hypocritical assault on another bloggers profile, all whilst you refuse have one up yourself, and then further proceed to malign my character ( and others) without accuracy nor any evidence is what is truly out of line !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 25, 2008 11:15 AM

Hi Waterbombe:

i wasn't calling you the Medusa,I said "sound like the Medusa"...my point being a woman in such a rage that she would go to any lengths and blah blah...

anyway,I'm sorry if I offended you.

Amouro...........I would love to spend a couple of hours in the naughty corner with Eral!

I am going to open up my profile for today so that those who have not seen me can take a peek if you like!I have removed as much information as I can,but I can understand that it helps to put a face to a person.

Posted by: musicteacher at August 25, 2008 11:04 AM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 5:03 PM
Morning all. Beautiful day today. Sunshine and all things nice, Blossoms on the trees, snow on the mountain and fog in the valley. Spring is in the air and it's time to end the hibernation. Mmm could this be the summer of love?

WB. What does Bugger mean? I only recite it from that t.v add with the cute dog that always says bugger after something goes wrong.
xx

amourmoi08. It's called the "spare" not the fifth wheel. And yes it too is quite important to check. Wouldn't want to replace a flat with a flat. Unless you keep a pair of short shorts where the spare used to live.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 25, 2008 10:24 AM

Waterlilly, I have eaten snake & it tasted pretty good, you should try it :)))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 7:07 AM

Anyway I doing a tassies & Im off to work, catch you all later & have a good one :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 6:52 AM

Waterlilly, " It certainly does not take much to get most of us off track, does it? " thats why I started the shek thing becourse this blog was fast turning into a cat fight, last time I checked we are to enjoy the interact on this blog, not to verbally tear each other to bits :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 25, 2008 6:50 AM

Good morning, what a great day I will have today and wish you all the same xxxxx

At the risk of copping a verbal upper cut I am sending all the ladies on here a kiss and sending you all some fish oil in the kiss mail...... was it a full moon and I just didn't notice..xxoo

Eral your a naughty boy and I shall have to put you in the naught corner for now with Music Teacher so that you can lead a life that sounds so exciting that I am nearly envious of the exchange of friendship and flirting......never hurts anyone so keep it up.xxoo

Outback your a legend, a real snap crackle and pop along with softfeather what I cute exchange. I hope to view much more exhcanges between you.xxoo

Tassie, stop being so serious and pretend to be working all the time when as I suspect that you had a least five car tyres to check after your posting.xx

Hey welcome to some new names and new bloggers.. :)

Usually you don't need a stack hat to post anything on here so welcome one and all and don't be strangers now but just for good measure keep all your flame throwers and protective gear at the ready and fight all the fights worth fighting for but I like to say it with love when I can so cheers to the new friendships that we all form on here. :-)

Bliss kisses and bloggers hugs to you all and I hope you all play nice today in the quick sand play pit today.
Peace out xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxLa Amourmoi08 or is that Amoral.....morning Marcus how are you? xxxxxx

I enjoyed all the postings xx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 25, 2008 5:50 AM

activeev at August 24, 2008 8:52 PM
Do an age based search for the gender and the region ie 30 to 35 year old within 50 Km

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 25, 2008 2:57 AM

waterbombe at August 24, 2008 1:17 PM : Thank you from us all I'm sure (from me anyway) for that very useful post. Now I'll get back to my romantic realism,

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 2:18 AM

ERAL at 11:53am: "Why do you 50+ want to be in long term relationships?"

I want to be in a relationship because a loving person does. Without a loved partner, my life is impoverished, and I notice that every day.

A short-term relationship is a lot better than nothing. I was in one for most of a year in 2001-2, and 2 brief ones in the last 2 years through RSVP. I still lunch now and then with the first 2, at their request.

But a longer relationship is so much better. My younger daughter now 33 is in the public service, and was always on timed contracts (usually 3 or 6 months.) Said when she got one she'd spend a month with the stress of learning a new department, team and goals. Then she'd move on to the stress of applying for the next posting, to be sure of having another lined up, before the last ran out.

Now she's got a permanent job at level 7, she can much more easily fit in her second part-time Masters course by distance ed, and more time for her husband.

I can relate to that. Finding the next partner is hard work unless you're God's Gift, then there's shaking down, a little bit of something like bliss, then breaking up and searching again.

The longer each relationship lasts, the more good time there is, and the less often you have in-between time.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 2:06 AM

heart2heart57 at August 24, 2008 11:27 AM: You are so right. Nothing ventured ....

I have a philosophy that reduces the hurt, so it reduces the risk. I'm not looking for Ms Right any more. Too hard to find. I'm ready to offer my heart to anyone who seems rather delightful, and if it's rejected, that just proves that I'd guessed wrong - she wasn't for me after all. Next!!

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 1:38 AM

qualitygal1 at August 23, 2008 10:27 PM:
I'd rather catch a double negative than a cold, any day. Words are my thing.

And you are young to me. As young as the youngest woman I've met so far on RSVP. (We're still in contact after 2 years, but only friends because she's 17 years younger than I am.)

You said "I can't claim to have dated 150 plus guys, you must be some catch." Quite the reverse, gal. The coupla dozen fisherwomen that I did fancy all pulled out their hook and threw me back. But I'm under the jetty all the time, checking for any new bait that looks OK.

Posted by:

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 1:25 AM

waternymph47 at August 22, 2008 8:37 PM: Thank you for your kind words. The bit of his comment that I liked the best was the question about any of the ladies falling asleep during our protracted first meetings.

I have found that this is unlikely while the lady is either talking or enjoying listening, so I try to include only those 2 activities.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 12:44 AM

grego7 at August 22, 2008 3:44 PM: Congrats, old marketer - your appraisal is very accurate. Yes - it is a product problem.

Two problems actually - a couple of dozen were marketing products that I really wanted to buy, but they wouldn't sell to me. And the rest had products that a detailed examination for a couple of hours (or sometimes for up to half a dozen dates) persuaded me that I didn't want to buy, after all.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 12:21 AM

amberlight58 at 9am on August 22. "Some could almost accuse you of being an RSVP advertising "puppet" TW, with your exhausting dating agenda!"

Amber, some of us are more fair dinkum than others about using RSVP for its prime purpose.

I'm not ashamed to say that in the last 2 weeks I've had 4 very enjoyable dates with 3 different RSVP members. Three of my usual-style first-date evening meals lasting 2 hours plus, and a twice-as-long second-date lunch picnic on an island.

Just doing my duty towards some more of the hopeful ladies on here - setting the young blokes a good example you could call it, eh?

Posted by:
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Posted by: timewarp1 at August 25, 2008 12:04 AM

Hi all. Had to work all weekend, so lots to catch up on. First the Perth authenticity furore, eg. amberlight58 at 9am on August 22. "for the sake of the rest of us, could you just lay off the "puppet" accusations?"

OK. I get the message. You all like Perth.

So do I, and I respect her scriptwriter's skill. That's why Perth and I cheerfully tease one another now and then. Happy street theatre.

But you all want to believe that Perth's real, and it upsets you to have me continuing to challenge that comfortable belief.

OK kiddies. I'll be co-operative and stop calling Perth a doll or a puppet. I'll call her Santa instead. And all you innocent kiddies will be able to feel safe again in your belief in Perth's reality. Because no-one would ever tell kiddies that Santa isn't real, would they?

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 24, 2008 11:46 PM

What a load of tripe! No-one is about to go into dragon slaying or snake eating to win a partner! Shek, for God's sake! Total BS. It certainly does not take much to get most of us off track, does it?

Posted by: waterlily58 at August 24, 2008 9:57 PM

Hi...first timer....I was wondering how I could find someone I met at the function held at the Imperial hotel Sth Yarra a few weeks back...we didn't exchange full names or numbers....any ideas apart form scrolling thru pages on site trying to recognise photo?

Posted by: activeev at August 24, 2008 8:52 PM

MT - no-one's really afraid of WB - we were just kidding.

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 8:24 PM

Posted by: istj54 at August 24, 2008 7:47 PM . Sorry, istj54, I don't get it...I don't understand what you are asking me?

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 7:49 PM. "We all see things as they are"..........you are soooooooooo definate about that are you?"

I said We all THINK we 'see things as they are', MT. We all think we are right. If we didn't, we'd change our minds. It's human to think that the way we see things is the "right" way, and anyone who disagrees is wrong...we're all like that, me included.

I'm not nasty, MT, but there are people who are...and really, if you want me to listen to you, do you think calling me a Medusa will make me feel inclined to listen? Didn't Medusa kill her own kids? I think you are going a tad over the top by comparing me to her, MT.

Here's the thing, when you say "Yes,we are what we are.........and that includes Eral"...well, that was my point....maybe Eral isn't Eral. If you catch my drift. But if you want to flirt with him, don't let me stand in your way, knock yourself out.

Btw I don't know anyone who's afraid of me, MT. Not you (you said so) ...not my friends, family or workmates...no one. And what's that about your long luscious eyelashes..are you SERIOUS? Of course I speak as a woman with short thin eyelashes ...very Princess Fiona, I am... so I would react to that...lol.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 8:23 PM

WB - no I never argue with her :) She's an absolute sweety.

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 8:20 PM

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 5:07 PM:
I didn't say that anyone posted fake photos. I was just comparing two things: posting fake photos, and cobbling together your entire profile from someone else's work.

People seem to be very anti-fake photos on here, and very much "for" honesty in general, and yet, many don't seem to mind someone pretending to have someone else's intellect/persona, pretending to be the author of something that some other clever person wrote.

So, given the discrepancy in attitudes, maybe it really is all about the photos on here. Though, at least someone who posts fake photos is never going to allow anyone from here to meet him/her, so the damage they can cause is limited.

Do I think that if someone posts a cobbled-together profile that they are automatically a cad? No, not at all. But it certainly raises the probabilities.

Posted by: drone at August 24, 2008 7:59 PM

Waterbombe: I think that you are a lawyer,possibly a Criminal Lawyer,or one for an Insurance company.

I have nothing against lawyers,as long as they are on my side(haha).

and I wasn't asking you to be nicer.I was very clear...have more diplomacy,grasciousness....couldn't hurt any of us of the fairer species....

"catch more flies with honey" honey.

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 7:57 PM

"We all see things as they are"..........you are soooooooooo definate about that are you?

Me flirting with Eral? of course..........you must know that we flirt off this site on a regular basis! Maybe you can work out that I am actually married to Eral and we have 4 children.

I know very well that my flirtations are obvious.........I don't hide behind my long,luscious eyelashes....and yes,I have a boyfriend who knows I flirt and am honest enough to say hmmmmmmm...that man is sexy.

I can see that you are happy with yourself,and I can see that you have related to me here in a different way to Eral...you could have chosen a nastier tone with me.........

Although you are happy with yourself,do you not think for a moment that I may have a point to you sounding like the Medusa? Are you so happy that you would not at least think about what i have said.Are you happy for people(not me..) to be afraid of you.when I am sure,you are a great person.That's kind of arrogant,don't you think....

Yes,we are what we are.........and that includes Eral.

btw..............I only flirt with men I find attractive...mind,spirit and body............It is part of my nature(isn't it ERAL!!!!!)

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 7:49 PM

catchphrase: "You might very well think that, but of course, I couldn't possibly comment." ...WB where is that from?:))...and is that what you are saying?

Posted by: istj54 at August 24, 2008 7:47 PM

Do you argue with your little sister, Willow?

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 7:44 PM

I think Princess Fiona is lovely. She reminds me of my little sister.

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 7:25 PM

Oops, am having trouble with the log-in process again, and just realised I wrote my last comment on the wrong blog. Duh! Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 24, 2008 7:22 PM

L2L57, I neither denied nor confirmed being a lawyer :-))

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 7:19 PM

istj54, that's true...sometimes.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 7:16 PM

Ha, Chad, yes FNQ is still in Australia, as is the Mornington Peninsula ;-).......New glaases eh, are they stronger ones perhaps??
Thank you for the compliment, Chad, and right back at you :)))

Shrek the Third is on Foxtel tonight for any of those debating Shrek's looks and Fiona's lovely nature it may be worth a visit.
I have spent the latter part of the afternoon watching Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, l do like a good wizard movie, l wish l could cast a spell on this cold of mine and get it to boot off!!...............K.

Posted by: auntykaz at August 24, 2008 7:11 PM

Hey Rod, funny you write about tyres. I just checked mine this week. lol. Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 24, 2008 7:08 PM

istj54, spot on with your coments

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 24, 2008 6:47 PM

...she did have character and lovely hair...guess that movie was all about taking risks...sometimes the perceived monster is really the good guy in the end...and nothing to be scared of at all.

Posted by: istj54 at August 24, 2008 6:36 PM

waterbombe, hate to tell this but she did :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 24, 2008 6:35 PM

oh nooooo WB didn't deny being a lawyer! and I want to know whats wrong with the legal profession. LOL

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 24, 2008 6:29 PM

hi kaz i have a new set of glasses and you are still a good sort , really enjoy your posts fnq is still in australia

Posted by: chad1958 at August 24, 2008 6:27 PM

...actually Waterbombe looks very much like Princess Fiona:)).Posted by: istj54 at August 24, 2008 5:54 PM

istj54 I assume you mean the version of Fiona with the extra 30 kilos and the big nose? That girl had character ... and anyway didn't she get the guy in the end? She wasn't on RSVP either, well not as far as I could tell (my memory of the movie is a bit hazy).

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 6:21 PM

We all think we 'see things as they are', I guess. That's the problem, when we are blinded by our own desires, we tell ourselves all sorts of stories. We've all done it, I'm sure.

Musicteacher, I think you are just annoyed at the thought that Eral might have "conned" you. I'm not saying he has....we don't know if he's him or not ...but given his profile-faking, those "hot" photos might not be him, and possibly that worries you? You've been flirting with Eral, I noticed, which of course you are entirely entitled to ...after all that's the point of RSVP in a way...and perhaps you feel concerned that you don't know who you've been flirting with? BTW I didn't go to any trouble finding evidence. I didn't type all that stuff out...I just cut and pasted it, same as Eral did. It took about 1 minute to put that long post together.

Re your comment "and now you will tell me that you are putting your point across,you are proving a point". Ah, no. I am not going to say that at all. You can take my posts however you like.

As for giving me advice on how to ne nicer, etc...the only thing I'll say is that we are all different. I'm happy with me. If you're happy with you too, then neither of us has a problem.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 6:14 PM

lol, I bet you're green the next day!

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 6:07 PM

Willow, you have not seen me after a night on the grog :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 24, 2008 6:02 PM

"I like his blog comments...and I don't care if he looks like a smashed crab"..me too MT.

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 6:01 PM

Drifter, you do NOT look like Shrek! He's green, for one :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 5:54 PM

...actually Waterbombe looks very much like Princess Fiona:)) just joking...as I run off to hide.

Posted by: istj54 at August 24, 2008 5:54 PM

Drifter, you do NOT look like Shrek! He's green, for one :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 5:53 PM

Waterbombe, whats wrong with Shrek, Im told all the time that I look like him ......... so he must be a good looking bloke :p

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 24, 2008 5:44 PM

ERAL, you profile is what it is......but it sure aint you......................K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 24, 2008 5:40 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 1:17 PM:

That was a good read.

The only thing I'd disagree with in that is the thought that the Romantic doesn't listen to the arguments of the Realist because they think the realist is a hopeless candidate for love, and hence, would have nothing useful to say about the subject.

Take the claim The One, statistically speaking, is likely to be out of reach on the other side of the world. They're simply not going to buy this, but for the reason that their background beliefs include notions like destiny, and a universe that puts things in reach for us. Thus, the universe/God, or whatever, has contrived to make it the case that each person's "The One" is in fact within reach, and it is then just up to the two people to recognise each other for what they are, when they meet.

Also, I suspect that the Romantic will baulk at the outset at being contrasted with the Realist, because, after all, they think that they are the ones who are seeing things as they are, and not the people who you've labelled the realists.

Posted by: drone at August 24, 2008 5:27 PM

Drone: maybe you don't understand because you are a male.

Maybe females would see it differently.....

apart from that ERAL(or whoever is in the photos) is hot!!!!

I thought ERAL was a "vegetarian hippie" when I first saw his name....I did not get it!!!I had also seen and remembered him from over 12 months ago when I first joined RSVP.

I like his blog comments...and I don't care if he looks like a "smashed crab",or if he is as fake as "the tooth fairy"......

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 5:20 PM

Drone - enough said...

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 5:11 PM

Drone, who said anyone put up fake photos? It was a suggestion that someone MAY have.
More people who don't know the quotes would more likely say "how strange" as they have previously on these blogs.

Sure we have "cads and bounders" (I love that phrase) on this site, but we are all aware of it, we just have to be careful.

And WB - I agree with Tassie, I'd hate to get into an argument with you too :) Tassie can I come to work with you?

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 5:07 PM

I'm sure you didn't actually mean Bugger, Tassie...

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 5:03 PM

"Many people who actually do know the quotes, would go "Ewww... what a fraud." I doubt that those people would be the target audience." Posted by: drone at August 24, 2008 4:42 PM. Exactly. People who know all the quotes would be deterred...they would think, "why hasn't this guy written even one original line? ...how can I tell who he is?" We go on about people presenting themselves on their profiles so we can make a decision about choosing someone we will'click' with...well if you want to pair up with Mike Myers or Holden Caulfield, ERAL is your man!

And what occured to me was, if the entire profile is a fake, why would the photos be genuine? Isn't there a pattern of faking in this particular case? I don't think we see ANY of the real ERAL on his profile, photos included . I think the women have given him an easy time because he's such a looker, drone...(ok Tassie, not you too, I get it)...but you could look like Shrek in reality for all we know, ERAL.

And for those of us into words, how about the irony of the letters in ERAL rearranged to spell REAL? Bit of a joke.....

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 5:02 PM

Waterbombe:

well.............you have gone to a lot of trouble,finding your evidence,having your say.

You sound very much to me like a lawyer!...and now you will tell me that you are putting your point across,you are proving a point...........

I don't care where the profile information comes from.......it's more interesting than most and i doubt ERAL wrote whatever he did believing no one would recognise it(I didn't because I have not read the book or seen the film).Sorry ERAL,I am not trying to talk for you.

For those who did recognise it.....good....they would see the humour in it.....as Willow has mentioned.

I would like to give you some advice.........say the same but with more diplomacy....in a more gracious way........

I am not talking about honey coating...I sometimes think you will go to any lengths to prove a point!.save that for the courtroom,or your workplace.............

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 5:02 PM

Tassie, have a good one mate :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 24, 2008 4:54 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 4:44 PM:

It's not that you used a couple of quotes in your profile without attribution, that are common knowledge anyway...

The *whole thing* is lifted from other sources.

You seem like a clever chap. Why not just write your own copy?

Posted by: drone at August 24, 2008 4:53 PM

Outback. Hay Mate. Cant do it now have to go to work. Bugger!

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 24, 2008 4:49 PM

Oh girls is saying our Tassie is a cad?!?!?!

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 24, 2008 4:46 PM

Waterbombe. I would hate to get into an argument with you. You are far too smart for me. And I can assure you there was no tryst. I can only go on some of his past posts and a genuine feeling in my heart that he is one of the good ones. I may be mistaken, but not usually. Btw I always give people benefit of the doubt. Can lead to some pain sometimes, other times it can be worth it. Bit like this risk thing.
Got to go to work. Will be interesting tomorrow.
Seeya

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 24, 2008 4:46 PM

LOL .

What is it with you ?- you've have tried that same finger wagging at least four time now ! zzzzzzzz
Get over it !

Seriously - who goes and checks other peoples profiles for copyright infringement? OR then feels the need to tell all of this - "thought criminal" in their midst ?

waterbuffalo
If i were really trying to con people - surely i wouldn't do it by using such dark offbeat humour ...you catch way more bees with honey than vinegar.

arrggghh

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 4:44 PM

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 4:30 PM:

What's the difference between plagiarising your profile, and putting up fake photos? Both are pretty insincere actions, I would have thought.

In the end, there will be people who share a sense of humour, but do not know the quotes. Many people who actually do know the quotes, would go "Ewww... what a fraud." I doubt that those people would be the target audience.

People are moaning on here about guys who have played them, been fakers, or whatever, and don't seem to care about this issue.

I don't understand that.

Posted by: drone at August 24, 2008 4:42 PM

If you're interested, guys, no I mean ladies. have a look at http://becomeaplayer.com for a calculated view of relationships. Where is Creationstuart...now there's a guy who SHOULD read that stuff, someone get him onto that site pronto, lol.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 4:34 PM

Waterbombe @ 4.16pm - It worked for me. I thnk that people who knew the source (like myself) had a chuckle and those who didnt were baffled. It sorts out immediately whether readers have a similar sense of homour. And it must work for Eral too, as he would have come on the blogs and asked how to change his profile ...
I actually wrote this twice this week, so maybe third time it will get through.

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 4:30 PM

Eral & tassie, I looks like its a good weekend for us blokes to try to commit verbal suicide on this blog :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 24, 2008 4:28 PM

Tassie, you're a lovely guy, but unless you and ERAL did have a secret tryst in Tassie recently (pun unintended, honest) , I don't think you know for sure what shape his heart is in? Or DID you have a tryst....hmmm...and his heart is yours now?....well there's nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 4:22 PM

wow (i must get you write my resume/profile!) Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 3:31 PM

Ok, Eral, I'll write a profile for you. Here it is, it's not original but it sounds so like you that it won't matter ...don't worry about plagiarism, I mean who cares if your words aren't yours, no one might realise and you'll get heaps of kudos from being so clever. I got this from the first few pages in 'Catcher in The Rye' by Holden Caulfield for you (it's on Amazon's website ....you can google a line of it and google will take you straight to it...that will save you the trouble of getting the book :-) "If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where i was born,and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but i don't feel like going into it, if you really want to know the truth.

However if i must; very well then, where do I begin?"

Sounds good, doesn't it? That Holden Caulfield certainly can write! Then I think you could follow it with a straight cut and paste from Mike Myers...the Austin Powers guy...I found these words from him on Wikipaedia: "My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15-year-old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize; he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament... My childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon... luge lessons... In the spring, we'd make meat helmets... When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds � pretty standard, really. At the age of 12, I received my first scribe. At the age of 14, a Zoroastrian named Wilma ritualistically shaved my testicles � there really is nothing like a shorn scrotum � it's breathtaking... I suggest you try it" .

Sound like you? I think it does... Now , the last thing....your photos. Since none of the words on your profile will be genuine (that's if you take my ideas on board) I would suggest you have fake photos to match too. Get some photos of a hot young guy off the internet ... the moody, brooding sort ... you know, the tortured artistic intellectual look. I'd suggest someone with long hair, that gives a bit of a bohemian impression, and maybe with dark eyes...to convey a bit of mystery, Eral, that's the trick you want to pull. That will get the ladies in your lap. Right, that should do it...I reckon you'll be landing them hook, line and sinker with that profile!!!

Well, I've gone to a lot of effort here. I went to three websites and cut-and-pasted words and photos that I think will convey an image you want to present. I hope you appreciate it. How does it sound, Eral? Do you reckon you could go with it?

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 4:16 PM

I am beset with the ironies of my life. I just posted something that I thought would end my RSVP life. They didn't let it through. Lol

I don't think you ladies should be judging ERAL too harshly.
His words can, sometimes, come across as harsh and maybe even a bit cruel. But I believe his intentions to be good. Eral has a good heart.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 24, 2008 4:07 PM

"war ON terror"

please forgive all my typos folks - i paint in broad strokes...

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 4:06 PM

blueyedblond at August 24------- Incredibly well put Lady, yayyy!
As for taking risks, I thought we all took risks and every day at that.
Life in general is a risk, we often must climb right out on a limb, have to "put ourselves out" it might be a little hard to, do but do it we must.
I feel that yes, risk does make life more exciting ----- how about the first ever plane ride at age 58?
and now, just try and stop me!
I for one am learning to take it one day at a time, and I am starting to enjoy this being single all over again.
Sure I have lessons to learn but I am up for it! the newness, the changes, the challenges, the excitement, the adrenaline, and All of them are risks.
I am alive and for that I am thankful.
I look forward to each new day with the curiosity of a young kitten, and I am enjoying them.
If we don't try then we are going to stagnate and oooo that would not be so nice!
P.S. in my dreams I am young!! --- in reality I still do lots of things, it just takes a little longer is all! and if one is able to stay positive that can actually be fun!
Thanks for reading this, Sue.

Posted by: sindee50 at August 24, 2008 4:00 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 1:17 PM

But - i agree entirely with you- about fear ,being the greatest weapon a charismatic person can use against us all.

They first lull you into sharing your fears with them - then they tell you that they share that same fear - and that they have a solution to end you fears once and for all - a "final solution" ( look that up on google)

Hence why i warn those of us, who choose allow fear and risk to guide your hearts and minds.

my very own "war of terror" ?

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 3:43 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 1:17 PM
Fascinating !
So according to you i am a seducer, a cynic, a Machiavellian; the type of man your mothers all warned you about ?

wow (i must get you write my resume/profile!)

I gather from your assuredly informed viewpoint, that you have been reading this same "GAME" seduction propaganda yourself - so then you surely would know that sexual conquest is in fact the lesser 'game' of a Romantic, and not of much interest that of a true seducer !

For the others here - allow me to explain- the art of seduction is the process of extending the period of anticipation (PRE-COITUS) for as long as possible. This is done in order to elicit a greater (and terrible) level of commitment from their victims, they will do anything, so that they might acquire the honor of being allowed that privilege .

The fantasy that they have in their mind tortures them with the fear that they might not attain it - that they may not be worthy !

Often, the seduced will do anything to prove themselves.

Seduction is not about sex, it is about POWER . Once sex has occurred, the spell is often broken !
Ask Tassie ...

As you wisely added at the end of your assessment of my unworthy character - these 'skills' were once only the providence of "secret women business", and engaged by them in order to secure a 'suitable marriage' from a targeted suitor !

May i ask - what is your evidence of my promiscuity ?
Have i bragged of my many interludes - are any of the other bloggers or RSVP members here telling you i have used them as sex objects, or do have you mistaken my moniker as proof of my being a Rake?

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 3:31 PM

ERAL:......I got their card.....I intend to hire them for one of my infamous parties......

I like some jazz,especially "Swing" and I have been a big fan of Vince Jones for years.

My point was.that these positve interactions can happen in intimate relationships...Dare I say it......even my 2 x-husbands,past loves brought something positive into my life......it would be ignorant and dishonest for me to say otherwise.

I don't believe a person would be the same after an interaction with you......

R

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 3:30 PM

"With every choice you risk the life you would have had; with every decision, you lose it."

Posted by: forevernow1 at August 24, 2008 3:24 PM

lol, As if buskers are going to reject money!!

MT - I hope they remember that moment :)

Now do I read the Sunday paper or google for seduction sites?

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 3:20 PM

blueeyedblond - well said

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 24, 2008 2:49 PM

Indeed MT !
You gave it away.
Your shared.

and what risk was there ?
OMG!
They may have rejected your generosity , or rolled you for your purse ! ( watch out for those Beatniks - they're all on drugs !).

Or worse ! They may have tried to convert you over to JAZZ !! Once your on that slippery slide, its all over !

MT,
At very least - tell us that you got a receipt?
(please please - don't make me have to call the ATO on you)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 2:42 PM

Beautiful stories Musicteacher. A persons life can most certainly be changed in a fleeting moment with another. It is so true. It has happened for me and I certainly hope I have done it for another.

Reason, season, lifetime comes to mind also.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 24, 2008 2:34 PM

eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 11:53 AM. As you get older ERAL you will find that you feel no different then than you do now. Love is not exclusivly for the young.
I have been on my own for over 10 years, had lots of flings, a couple of longish things, and 2 years of a casual thing with a gorgeous young man. Why wouldn't we want a long term relationship, nesting doesn't necessarily mean children? I personally would prefer a live close and visit often thing until my scooter can't get me to him anymore. I am sick and tired of meeting different guys. Short term liasons are usually sexually based, and as much as I enjoy sex there has to be a lot more for me now. I really can't be bothered meeting new men every week or month, having to do the small talk all over again. Most of us over 50's are still very sexually active and multiple partners is not only unfulfilling but downright dangerous. None of us are here by choice, when I married I thought it would be forever and it would have been if he had been a half decent husband and father. So please don't sell us short, we want exactly the same as you, a loving and fulfilling relationship, with history built up so we can say "remember when we went to Tassie a couple of years ago", "wasn't that movie we saw a few months ago great", "lets go away for a couple of weeks in January".
When I look in the mirror I see a woman who in no way resembles the woman I really am, as I am sure will be echoed by all the over 50's on here.

Posted by: blueyedblond at August 24, 2008 2:18 PM

"LIFE is Risky,because you are not going to get out of it alive"

It's what you do with it that counts

Posted by: forevernow1 at August 24, 2008 2:17 PM

Oops. Just pulled the trigger with my gun still in the holster. Seeyas

Posted by: tassiedude1 at August 24, 2008 2:10 PM

Do I want to risk getting hurt in my next relationship...Posted by: missright33 at August 24, 2008 9:17 AM.

Missright33, I'm a realist, not a romantic or a cynic. I'm a down-to-earth, boring, practical, pedantic sort of woman. So I may have nothing worthwhile to say. But lack of good sense has never stopped me from speaking before and it won't this time.....lol.

As I see it, you have 2 choices ... get involved again and try for gold, or avoid relationships completely and stay single for the rest of your life. Being careful about your attitude to relationships is important if you go the first way. There is a continuum to be aware of ... it pays to think through whether you are cynical, realistic, or romantic. Where you stand will make a big difference to how badly you get hurt.

We have examples of all types on this blog, and if I may take your names in vain, Ladies and Gentlemen ... There's guilt&pleasure who sounds to me like a Romantic, winging her way to Paris for a week with a guy (not that I haven't done the same, but thinking it would turn into a relationship is the romantic bit). And the ELF, in wonderment and awe, thinking this kind of thing is magically inspiring. The Romantic places a high priority on excitement, and will argue that any risk is worthwhile for true love. They believe in the existence of "The One", Prince Charming, who they will fly to the ends of the earth, or at least Europe, to find. After all, if there is only one guy on earth who is right for you, what sacrifices wouldn't you make to find him?

The Realist, boringly pedantic as we are, argues that if there is only one right man for us in the world, he is likely to be Chinese (since they have more men than anyone), and he is likely to live in a rural village (since more Chinese live outside the cities), and he is likely to ride a bicycle (since they don't have many cars yet in China), so we ask: shouldn't the Romantic look for a man riding a bicycle in a remote village in China whose language she cannot speak and whose culture and customs she doesn't know? Looking for The One doesn't seem to make sense to us...being more mathematically inclined, we're looking for The Dozen at the very least. But of course the Romantic sees the Realist as a hopeless candidate for love ...she thinks that the best the Realist can achieve is tea-and-scones next to the fireside with the staid and tubby bloke from next door. So the Romantic doesn't listen to arguments from the Realist.

The Romantic does listen to the Cynic, though. In fact they are a sitting duck for the Cynic's seduction. This is where you have to be careful, missrule33. The Romantic is Red Riding Hood to the Cynic/Wolf in Grandma's Clothes, who is crouched under the bedsheets, ready to chew her up and spit her out. The Romantic is lured into danger by her ideals, which the Cynic knows only too well, and uses against her. An excellent candidate for cynic on this site is eatsrootsandleavesallwomenfordead. I read his recent posts below and thought, Wow, ERAL, you're so cynical and almost contemptuous of love....you sound like a man who has never loved...who has never known what it's like to be vulnerable. I may be wrong of course, you could just have had a bad date on Friday night, but it was a very strong impression I got from your posts.

Anyway back to the story. The Cynic doesn't get emotionally damaged by his romantic partners...he got damaged a long long time ago, so long ago that he's probably forgotten. He wants sex with an ever-changing list of partners, so that he minimises the risk of emotional attachment. The Cynic/Wolf entices the Romantic into Grandma's log cabin with promises of real love, true love, love for eternity, special love, destined/fated love ...he gazes adoringly into her eyes and murmurs "I've never felt like this before about a woman"..."You are the first woman who ever did this to me".... "Our love is written in the stars"...."We were Anthony and Cleopatra in a past life". He can do a pretty good job of faking adoration because he practises so much looking in the mirror every morning. Anyway, the Romantic, never suspecting such duplicity because she is a too-kind and too-trusting soul, climbs between the sheets and falls in love. It last a week, a fortnight, a month...then CRUNCH!! She is chewed up and spat out. She sobs, she wails, she moans...(read ERAL's post below to hear what she says). She spends some time stitching and applying salve to the wounds inflicted by the Wolf. This is made worse by the Wolf tossing salt on the wounds...telling her it is All Her Own Fault...he never loved her, he just "found her interesting for a while", but now he "needs to move on" as she "isn't woman enough to keep him". The Cynic/Wolf is, btw, having a good time because he feels powerful and in control. And he's looking for Ms Next .... remember he likes to churn through the sexual partners. He likes to get Ms Next-for-a-short-time as soon as possible after the last one.

When the Cynic notices his game is slipping a bit, which is does from time to time because he is no stranger to superiority and its companion, complacency, he visits one of the many websites advising men on seduction techniques. From these sites he gathers more weapons for his arsenal and springs back into playing what he calls The Game. That's why the Cynic is also called a Player. (Just an aside...While all Cynics are Players, not all Players are cynics. Being a Player can be just a stage after divorce...people can move through it. What you want is the Honest Truth about the length of the relationship(s) to which the Player has committed previously...that will tell you who is a die-hard Player. But keep in mind it's hard to get the Honest Truth from a Player, you are more likely to get The Truth You Want To Hear).

All card-carrying Romantics should proceed immediately to one of these seduction sites...we can all Google....and enlighten themselves as to the strategies of the Cynic/Wolf before they send their next Kiss. The Realists don't need to go...they can continue to sip their coffee and read their Sunday paper.

I doubt that you are a Cynic, missright33, or you would not have asked "do I want to risk my heart being broken?". The Cynic's heart is in shreds. Something already shattered cannot be broken. So you must be a Realist or a Romantic...only you will know. If you happen to be a Romantic, do check out the seduction websites...the internet has generated some wonderful stuff and some dreadful dross, but it pays us all to be aware of both, I think. But then, I'm a Realist. Now I'll get back to my tea-and-scones, my fireside and my bloke.

Btw everyone, the pronouns he and she were used interchangeably in this posting and no humans were damaged in its production.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 24, 2008 1:17 PM

allow me to continue.....I am feeling like sharing more(skip if you wish by all means)>>>>>

I like to think that giving our comments here,making recommendations of films,music,books has a special effect on us here too........we are saying to each other in not so many words."This music,book,film had a positive effect on me.I could relate to it,it made me see things a certain way,it helped me,it enlightened me,it changed me etc".

When I lived in Melbourne in the early nineties,I rented a room from a Polish widow in Albert Park..very cultured,very eccentric and very dark in some ways.I came home one day and there was Hazel Hawke sitting in the kitchen drinking coffee with this woman.I knew who she was of course,and I knew that these two women were friends because I used to use the Priministerial face washers occassionally when I had a shower,that were generously left there with their gold monograms by the PM himself...(they had not split at this stage).

Anyway,Mrs Hawke was in Melbourne for a book launch,and she had noticed a few of my books on the kitchen sideboard.......she wrote down the details,and I like to think she bought herself a copy and read it...it was called "Teach Only Love".......

A few weeks later,she phoned my landlady early on a Sunday Morning and announced the official split.

About 3 months ago,i was in the Emergency dept of the RNSH and I saw her a few beds away.......well,I thought it was her....she looked older and much thinner.She kept staring at me....I kept stariing back.....but i was in so much pain myself i could not get up to speak to her.This went on for a few hours.Although she is not so well these days....I like to believe that she recognised my face....(it was her btw...before long it became sort of obvious).

Did she get the book........I will never know......

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 1:12 PM

H2H 11.27 Touche - thats what I meant by "go with the flow" we need to just relax and enjoy the moment not try and look at all the things that "might" happen - we "might" get run over by a bus but we still cross the road!

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 24, 2008 1:10 PM

Eral @11.53 - I think its less of a case of people needing to control the other person, but of being able to control their own fears and emotions. And thank you for elevating my little story to a fable!

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 1:05 PM

ERAL:

All I know is this.........and I have learned the hard way how to somehow try and get on with life............

Sometimes you need to look at life simplistically rather than analysing everything.

To fear nothing is not part of our nature..,...our human instincts are designed this way so we flee when in danger....

To need nothing from anybody may isolate you from human contact..if that's what you want to do.........become a practising Buddhist and hide yourself away in your studio everyday.

You know very well that there are far more important issues,problems in life.

You have something to offer..we all do........
We are here for a reason,to make a positive difference to someone/s.Some have more to offer than others....let's all be honest about this.

It could be a short,a moment,a few months,years of interaction with "others"....

Allow me to give a small example:...I am an overly generous person...with my time,with my money etc...and often suffer as a result....I was on my way to see a student the other day,and from across the road in a small railway tunnel I heard some jazz music(not my favourite)..performed by 3 young boys....I felt compelled to go down to
these little buskers.I really was impressed by these musicians,playing really well in the cold draft of the Artarmon tunnel.I asked them as a joke if they studied "Elective Music" at school,did they know their "key signatures"(of course with my tongue in my cheek" and blah blah.
I gave them $20 as they were busking to help themselves go on tour to Vienna and somewhere in Switzerland next year with their school.

This was more than I have ever given to any busker,and that they had ever received...I made it clear to these boys that they were talented and worth it ..and their eyes lit up,they smiled etc.I have NO doubt that they will never forget that moment....and that it will have a continuing positive impact on their lives even though i may never see them again.

This is my point!

You seem to be a very insightful man,one who feels a great deal...(I like men like this...it is the artist in me I guess).

and now I feel a bit silly telling you all this because of course you know this etc.

sometimes we forget.

The world has many people who are filled with hate,jealousy,spite instead of love,encouragement,praise....I read it on RSVP daily.

Enough rambling from me.
R

Posted by: musicteacher at August 24, 2008 12:44 PM

ERAL@7.26pm:
Honey......I adore you! (VBG)Your pithy comments cut us all down to size.........

missright@9.17am:
All of Life is a risk,one way or another !
So do you " LIVE" or "exist"??
I prefer the fun of living and have learned to accept the odd bruising that sometime occurs.

Posted by: kurli at August 24, 2008 12:01 PM

Why do you 50+ want to be in long term relationships ? I see long term relationships as more for people who are planning on nesting with their new mate.

??

IS IT because you can't find people who are happy to have short term ones ?

( willow - thats a great fable - and it perfectly describes the mentality I'm describing - so many people say that are lonely for intimacy - but yet they won't share it unless they believe that they have 'total control' over the other)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 24, 2008 11:53 AM

softfeather, I enjoyed our chat & look forward to having more, You have a good one :))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 24, 2008 11:30 AM

Posted by: missright33 at August 24, 2008 9:17 AM - You've nailed it MissRight - that's what this topic is about. Risk. Guard yourself against being hurt, and you take the risk of letting "the one" pass you by. Take the risk, and you might get hurt again.

It seems to go in cycles for a while, but hopefully you learn along the way. You start to refine your 'wish list'. You learn to read the signs better, and the alarm bells go off earlier. Hopefully, that leads to making better choices.

But, probably the biggest risk of all is that while protecting yourself, you don't allow yourself to be fully into the relationship. That can lead to problems with intimacy, trust, and a myriad of things harmful the relationship.

When do you open your heart? When do you open your soul? From day 1. If you have chosen to be with someone, there's no point in beating around the bush and putting conditions on everything. If you do, you have already committed yourself to a conditional relationship. Chances are, your partner is doing the same thing. You both end up waiting for the 'key' to unlock the next step. That can then result in a dead-lock - each partner is waiting for a key and the relationship fails - yet you were with "the one". It's just that all these false barriers were put in place right from the very start.

Pretty simplistic view, I know. And it will probably get shot down in flames. But if you want to have open and honest love, you have to be open an honest from the start. It's a risk. But if you don't take that risk, you end up back on the treadmill recycling all the old ways, and crap that goes with it. The trick is to find someone that's on the same wavelength. That part seems to need a key - I ain't found that key yet :)

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 24, 2008 11:27 AM

What a brilliant tale Willow!
Hopefully if it's true that there is more than one person for all of us, she didn't actually have to wait another hundred years, and her next "prince" had a bit more intestinal fortitude!

I guess the only thing we can believe is that we HAVE survived broken relationships before and we WILL survive again, Missright.
Perhaps we will need a litle bit more time, each time, to heal and get back up again, in-between them though?

Posted by: amberlight58 at August 24, 2008 11:19 AM

Risk - is a scary word when your single.
As in do I want to risk getting hurt in my next relationship, do I want to risk my heart being broken? Can I survive another breakup again ?

Does anyone have any thoughts ?

Posted by: missright33 at August 24, 2008 9:17 AM

The handsome prince rode his charger to the thorn wall. He watched the princes and knights of the land hack futilely at the inpenetrable barrier, before unsheathing his trusty sword. The thorns melted away before him and a corridor was made to the castle.
In the tower he beheld the sleeping princess. He gazed for a moment at her soft skin and flowing hair before bending to deliver the kiss that would awaken her. But before his lips touched hers... doubts and fears came rushing to his mind...."If he woke her, would he have to be responsible for her heart? Would he fall in love with her and lose his own heart? Would awakening her mean he will never again be able to kiss the lips of other maidens? What if she rejected him? What if he didnt like her?"

He ran a flaxen tress through his fingers....and turned away.

At the wall, the princes cried out "You are the chosen one, if you dont wake her, none of us can have her....She will sleep for another 100 years".
"I just can't take the risk" replied the Prince, and as he rode off, the wall of thorns grew back.

Posted by: willow29 at August 24, 2008 7:24 AM

guiltypleasure you know how to live. Judging by your post, I would say you are the sexiest woman on this site. You show how abandoning fears for love, no matter how fleeting, is exhilarating. You have inspired me, and become a mirror that has challenged me. I suspect your refreshing way of succumbing to your own desires is inspirational to many who cross your path. A truly intoxicating gypsy. Thank you.

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 23, 2008 11:48 PM

This reminds me of a saying I read recently
"To love, is to risk getting hurt. To risk not loving, is the greatest risk of all".

Posted by: jewelz61 at August 23, 2008 12:19 PM

You go girl !!!!!! :-'0

Posted by: qualitygal1 at August 23, 2008 10:30 PM

timewarp1 at August 23, 2008 9:51 AM
you caught my double negative, amazing

nothing like a sweeping generalisation .......................
about women over 50 clearly stating that they want men younger than them.

Yup, I've never read a man's profile stating he wants to meet women 10 to 15 years younger, so it must just be us "younger" women who are being devious.

I must thank you for the compliment though of calling me a younger woman :-)

Have to say though that in my few years here I can't claim to have dated 150 plus guys, you must be some catch

Posted by: qualitygal1 at August 23, 2008 10:27 PM

timewarp1 at August 23, 2008 9:51 AM
you caught my double negative, amazing

nothing like a sweeping generalisation .......................
about women over 50 clearly stating that they want men younger than them.

Yup, I've never read a man's profile stating he wants to meet women 10 to 15 years younger, so it must just be us "younger" women who are being devious.

I must thank you for the compliment though of calling me a younger woman :-)

Have to say though that in my few years here I can't claim to have dated 150 plus guys, you must be some catch

Posted by: qualitygal1 at August 23, 2008 10:27 PM

Somehow, out of all the twists and turns in our lives could have taken, and out of all the chances we might have missed, it almost seems like we were given a meant - to - be moment.......that turned out to mean the world to me

Posted by: country47 at August 23, 2008 10:03 PM

Life is for living: good times, bad times, risk taking, (and knowing the joy of surviving those risks relatively unscarred). Without the risks, nothing has as much value, or meaning. If it has inbuilt risk, you have to think about it , weigh up the risk and then decide is it worth it...or say...:stuff it, not thinking about the risk, doing it anyway!'.
I thought we were all taking quite a risk just putting ourselves out there in this kind of format(rsvp),so we are all risktakers to some degree.Really LIVING life involves taking risks, the important thing is how you handle the pain that might ensue, and I'm sure everyone here has felt that in one form or another.

Butterfly kisses to you all!

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 23, 2008 8:47 PM

SF, thats all I asked thank you, from what I has seen of this blog, that people latch one little thing that someone posts & go to town about it & not look at the whole interact of the topic, I was speaking from MY point of veiw, from MY observetions of MY life, I am talking what I feel, I think :), I am not making general statement about how it is in the world, I am not saying that ALL weman my age or older are Burnt out, bitter & looking for a soft life.
So please dont treat me like I am, this is not an attack at all the older weman on this blog or site, as I was saying earlier I am here to prove myself wrong & I am here with an open mind :))))).
How many other here can say the same thing ?

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 8:12 PM

Drifter ... after the blog updated & I see your post was referring to the interactions between U & LtoL I now get it ... a butt joke ... more my style .... my posts today have not been personally directed to or at you, they were my thoughts. I feel I am venturing out of my depth so I'll just sit back & watch the lay of the land for a while ... thank u for taking time to chat .... gentle blessings :)

Posted by: softfeather at August 23, 2008 8:04 PM

Posted by: guiltypleasure at August 23, 2008 3:00 PM

What a relief ! I was beginning to think i was a lone voice in the wilderness ...so thank you for sharing your own insight.The truth of it moved me greatly.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 23, 2008 8:01 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 7:18 PM - Thank Gawd for that! Here's me thinking 'What the?'. What conversation that's been going back and forth? Had me going there for a minnie there OBD... LoL

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 23, 2008 7:51 PM

Posted by: guiltypleasure at August 23, 2008 3:00 PM ... and an end, with terror, is better than terror without an end...

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 23, 2008 7:48 PM

SF, what you are talking about here, is what I am going through now ( Yes I know Im a late bloomer too ), Yes I do listern now, Yes Im out to get away from the pressures of society & community, as for thing happening quickly or in a instant out here nothing happens that way & that I do like ( very layed back )

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 7:47 PM

Drifter .... yes I did read them again & again & for heck sake what have I missed? .... as my grandad would say .... for heavens sake give the dog a bone .... spit it out man ..... come on just tell me ! .... if this going to be like reverse parking or remembering PIN numbers I might give up 'cause I don't do that kinda stuff :) :)

Posted by: softfeather at August 23, 2008 7:38 PM

LtoL, Im glad I entertained you this afternoon & yes I figgered that I was in for it the moment I posted it :).by the way what did paint ?

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 7:37 PM

Drifter ...... In answer your question of "mine or theirs"? Neither :) ...... My question was coming from a place where I feel as a society & a community we are so pushed & caught up with moving quickly. Do we stop to really listen to what others are trying to say?.... ie as a results driven society we expect things now, this very instant. The "cost" to slow down is deemed too expensive..... I'm also at an age & stage in my life where one thing I have is time to really think & reflect about my life. How can I be effective, productive & of value to myself, my family & to the community .... & with blessings a future mate .... :) I am now growing as a single individual person & I embrace it, love it, celebrate it & if it is late coming so be it ... :) blessings

Posted by: softfeather at August 23, 2008 7:29 PM

The notion of a successful relationship being measured by how much risk/odds one has beaten, equates dating to some sort of investment , equally served by the hyperbole of "the greater the risk, the greater the reward"
and "no pain, no gain" ?!

Seems to me that people are overstating this 'risk' element to their own detriment.

KURLI - i understand what you saying -
The "adrenalin rush of risk - then what they are really after is - "the rush", and not the reality! - and this is the same addictive emotion that gamblers seem to enjoy to often similar results.

Overinflated expectations and the lust for as overwhelming return/rewards, (the legendary pot of soul (mate) at the end of the rainbow) all for a 'peppercorn investment' ( well i shaved my legs didn't i?).

Oh - i see - cutting yourself with a razor ! more risk than you can afford to take ?

But wait - what about my over-inflated ego ! ITS my 'precious' ! ~ Gollum

Its the winner vs loser paradigm again!

When it doesn't pay off, these self proclaiming 'romantics' look for someone other than themselves to blame.

"I've been cheated !" WARNING! DANGER ! Players are everywhere !!

Post after post ...

What's worse - their hysteria then starts to create a type of desperation and panic in the herd, as they also start see less and chances for themselves to be 'winners'.

So, they start to learn tricks/bluffs (seductions) and other shady plays that will eventually easily land them into the hands of waiting lions...

Deals and threats start being made.

The steely eyes of the waiting vultures (lawyers) watch in glee.

When dating has become a investment vehicle ( RSVP) with game strategies etc ... then 'the pricks' have won.

After all, they play the odds with their heads, and not their hearts!

Come in SPINNER they say !
you got be "init 2 winit" (sucker) !

Have we completely forgotten how to just have fun with one another ?

Does everything have the be reduced to an SWOT analysis ?

GIVE IT AWAY !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 23, 2008 7:26 PM

Sorry SF & WN, its LtoL not HtoH, I have cross over blogs going on here LOL

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 7:18 PM

hey outback just knew you would be in trouble LOL now I will just sit back and laugh some more!!! Thanks for entertaining me this afternoon whilst I was painting!

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 23, 2008 7:18 PM

SF, Please explain, that quote always crack me up :), I was not saying that you missed something, overlooked it or misunderstood, what I was asking was had read all of the interact between myself & H2H, understood what we were saying & in what context it was sead :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 7:08 PM

decoratress, No I have not lost hope, as I was saying in one of my earlier posts, I am here & I hope that I will be proved wrong :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 7:00 PM

Softfeather, from what point of veiw do you ask " Is talk cheap or is taking the time to listen & understand too expensive? " , Mine or there`s ? :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 6:52 PM

Drifter .... sorry what have I overlooked, missed or not understood? .... As the woman in the fish & chips shop said .... Please explain? :)

Posted by: softfeather at August 23, 2008 6:47 PM

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 2:27 PM
"to tell you the truth most weman my own age I have meet are burn out, bitter & looking for a soft life, Sorry but thats how I see it"

I'm sorry to hear that, obd.. you've been unlucky.

I, & many of my friends, are older than you, & are the opposite of burnt out & bitter..
Don't lose hope!

Posted by: decoratress at August 23, 2008 6:43 PM

SF & WH, before I answer both of you, have you read all the interaction between me & H2H today & you both understand what we were talking about ? :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 6:13 PM

Posted by: waternymph47 at August 23, 2008 1:46 PM - not quite what I meant WN - your profile says '60', yet your post said you were going to a 130th anniversary. Sorry, just my dumb sense of humour kicking in (hate it when it does that, lol) :)

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 23, 2008 5:43 PM

outbackdrifter: Just putting a thoughtie out there :) Is talk cheap or is taking the time to listen & understand too expensive? Why do we ask or challenge others to prove what we ourselves might choose to believe, disbelieve or fear?
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When challenges are put to another to prove a worth, who is at risk? As one of the questions re this topic "So how do "you" decide what risks to take if any at all? When we enter into any relationship whether it's an adult relationship, a relationship with a child or the people you work with, do you expect them to prove their worth? Is a casual meeting any different? Because I'm not reading between the lines I don't know what walk wasn't walked :)
............
By the way I love to walk, skip, jump & dance but I'm home today nursing a sprained ankle.
Went dancing last night & fell off a pair of killer high heels! Now that was taking a risk. Like H2H said "Fill up on adrenaline, the come back down on endorphins". A pair of killer high heels has that effect with me. Motto being: Just ensure the fall is dignified & graceful :)

Posted by: softfeather at August 23, 2008 5:31 PM

DRIFTER.... age has little to do with it.. It's all about patience , tolerance, stamina and endurance. Older women have plenty of that .. especially those of us who have raised kids on our own and even now will willingly take care of Grandchildren, our partner and/or an aging parent. We are also the ones who take on Volunteer work in the Community when the paid work runs out,(or as well as paid work) who chair the committes, rasie the funds.. do whatever we are called on to do. Even at 60 I dont settle well to doing nothing . As for the soft life ???.. I live life with what I have to the best of my ability .. as do most women!
I'm sure you must have known when you chose to live on the land that finding the right kind of woman to share it with you was not going to be easy. Maybe you are looking in the wrong direction??

Posted by: waternymph47 at August 23, 2008 5:30 PM

No but its a great trip & you will enjoy the landscape :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 5:05 PM

ahh but will I make it back for work on Monday?!?!?:)

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 23, 2008 4:45 PM

LtoL, by the way its Tibooburra not Broken Hill.............its only 340 kms more then Broken Hill, You will walk it easy :)))))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 4:39 PM

LtoL I know what you were talking about :p, You just keep shooting from the hip, thats what I really like about you :)))))))

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 4:35 PM

LtoL, one more thing, taking the good with the bad is just part life & Im more then happy to take that with a relationship with someone I care for.............I understand that more then you will ever know :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 4:14 PM

outback - just joshin - was talking about your "bum" that all the girls were gushing about - lol - umm little bit hard to walk to broken hill from here! Or I would prove you wrong :)

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 23, 2008 4:06 PM

LtoL; I am not taring every woman with the same brush, I am here hoping I am wrong, from what I have seen there are weman here with get & go but talk is cheap, I have had contact with a few weman on this site, who talk the talk but in the end dont walk the walk, please prove me wrong, that would make a very happy bloke here.
As for my " asset" I never claimed to be a knight in shining armour so if a little of my shine has gone from saying this......so be it :).
By the way I have not lived out here my whole life, so dont think I have a narrow veiw on life :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 3:46 PM

hmmm ok I did ask - is that because they are women on the land around your are? I guess the age you are talking are going through the "tough" time of menopause - that should be part of the take the good with the bad - it doesn't last forever and should we tar everyone that age with the same brush?? I certainly don't fit the bill and doubt that any of the other women posting on here would - oh dear just went off your "asset" lol

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 23, 2008 3:17 PM

Lets be honest - did you all really enjoy the feelings of your past relationships so very much? Or was it more a matter of your loyalty to the idea of it, and its overbearing idealism that motivated you day after day?

Posted by eatsrootsandleaves at August 22, 2008 5:17 PM

You know ERAL, I think it's probably your post that resonates with me more than any others I have read on this subject.

When I first saw the topic, I got to thinking about the risks I have taken for love, and to my surprise found that it had manifested its way in several different forms through my life.

For example, childbirth. Placing my body into an unknown and extremely risky situation for the love and want of a child,and finding strength and resolve I never knew I had was perhaps the most empowering experience of my life.

I have crossed the world for love, once flying to London and spending just six hours in the company of a dear friend and former lover, at a time my marriage was falling apart. I know it sounds trite,and it can't be properly conveyed in a blog, but those six precious hours helped us both come to terms with our individual hurts (his father had recently passed away) more so than staying at home and staring at the walls.

Two years ago, I flew to Paris to spend a week with someone who had also flown from another continent to meet me there. He later followed me back here. The risk he took for our love was staggering, but no amount of romantic idealism could prevent some stone-cold realism: we were ultimately unable to live together and he has since returned back to his home country.

ERAL, it was your comment about being afraid to hurt someone with the truth that your love for them is not enough to sustain the relationship that I understand. I am estranged from my family, my parents and my sisters, because I dared speak this truth after one awful Christmas Day five years ago. I know, from regrettable experience, that hiding the bitter truth of entangled relationships from our loved ones is an easier option for many than taking the courageous - some would say foolish - step of speaking up and putting an end to the quiet desperation with which we live out our lives.

And so it was in my last relationship. Wanting to love him was not enough. As far as risk taking behaviours are concerned, taking the risk that I could well be on my own for the rest of my life is a far preferable option than being in a room for five minutes with someone who does not want to be there. Bungee jumping, or Paris for a romantic week are all the stuff of adrenaline-fuelled fantasy. It only feeds us for a short time before the next fear sets in. Far more honest - and passionate - is to live with no fear at all.

Posted by: guiltypleasure at August 23, 2008 3:00 PM

LtoL, most of me life I have relationships with younger weman, my ex was twenty years younger then me & its was the best time of my life, she showed me how to really live life & get the most out of it :), yes we did part in the end but I have no problem with that she moved on & l moved on, to tell you the truth most weman my own age I have meet are burn out, bitter & looking for a soft life, Sorry but thats how I see it

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 2:27 PM

amourmoi08 at August 22, 2008 8:23 PM ..... Thanks for the Gold Star .. you're a hoot :-) !!!
(Aha! Waternymph... so you lied about your age... LoL.Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 22, 2008 11:47 PM ) Nope H2H if I was gonna lie about my age I'd say I was 70 and then people will REALLY be impressed that I dont look my age LOL!

Well done with the dancing Lifebegins47, should be more of it!! :-)

On this cold wet & windy weekend I'm probably spending way too much time in front of PC or TV but getting up for a dance now and then sure shakes the blues away and gets the heart pumping and body moving :-)

Posted by: waternymph47 at August 23, 2008 1:46 PM

ERAL...........I think you have a case of "the blues".I know you are complex....and I believe that your passion for love will return.

I prescribe some Czech beer,and listening to some "Slavonic Dances"...........

R

Posted by: musicteacher at August 23, 2008 1:39 PM

Hi Willow,
Thank you for your friendly wave!
Yes on reading H2H's comment I went to your suggested clip; it was hilarious!
Actually rather reminded me of my "younger days", I am sure I went out with a few of those blokes!

Posted by: amberlight58 at August 23, 2008 1:27 PM

hey guys please explain to me why you all want females heaps younger? Probably been explained before but I think thats why the girls struggle - I don't want to go out with my "dad" so to speak. lol nor my son either!

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 23, 2008 1:04 PM

Posted by: lifebegins47 at August 22, 2008 11:22 PM

Be there done that & it end in the same way...........Busted but Who cares ;)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 12:37 PM

Posted by: softfeather at August 22, 2008 11:41 PM - Yep - got it in one...

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 23, 2008 12:22 PM

This reminds me of a saying I read recently
"To love, is to risk getting hurt. To risk not loving, is the greatest risk of all".

Posted by: jewelz61 at August 23, 2008 12:19 PM

LtoL spot on......................just go with flow :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 11:38 AM

Softfeather, I like the way you think :), life is to be enjoyed not work at :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 11:35 AM

acqua thats just what I have often thought when reading theses blogs "over analysing" when we should just "go with the flow"!

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 23, 2008 11:11 AM

Conundrum: Do we baulk at risk or do we risk because we feel safe? ...............

Do we allow what flows freely from within when passion is a natural emotion or do we allow past hurts to be the measuring tool for venture? The lessons we learn in relationships are a guide for our future but the capacity & ability to remember lessons can be a challenge. To try again for a more successful outcome is a more healthier way, for both, to venture forward. I read something which said the measure of pain one feels is the same measure for the capacity of pleasure.. Whoa look out world :) yep dancing on the side of the road... skinny dipping on a deserted beach.. playing hide & seek in the supermarket.

Allowing ourselves to invest the same depth of love & care that in the past bought pain can be a hard call. Whatever ones measuring tool is a personal choice but to allow others the right to be comfortable being themself is an unselfish gift of love.
Gentle blessings

Posted by: softfeather at August 23, 2008 10:45 AM

qualitygal1 at August 21, 2008 11:27 PM: Was that a double negative, inferring that a lot of the men you'd met were posting photos from 5-10 years ago?

In theory, I wouldn't expect it to be very different from women, because the advertising industry has got our whole society sold on the idea that youth is sexy and even middle age isn't, let alone old age.

In the last 2.1/2 years I've met about 160 RSVP women (3 more in the last week - 2 from outgoing kisses and one incoming) and they all claimed at the time that they were various ages between 55 and 75.

Less than a dozen (well under 10%) seemed to be noticeably older than they said, and/or noticeably older than their Profile photo, and of them, only one seemed about ten years older than her photo. The rest five years older, at most.

So the mature women that I've met have nearly always seemed honest about their ages.

But maybe there is a difference between the genders. Maybe more men are pretending to be younger, in the hope of getting a date with the typical good-looking over-50 woman, who clearly states that she wants someone her own age at most, or up to ten years younger.

Off to my grandson's third birthday. Will read yesterday's posts tonight.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 23, 2008 9:51 AM

lifebegins47 ~ 11.22PM. Love your post. You sound like my kinda person. lol.

You should see me dancing up and down the shop when it's quiet. Have been sprung a few times, but who cares. Can make other people smile and happy too.

Don't you just love music and how it motivates? Can change a mood in an instant.

Have a great weekend everyone. I'm hopefully gonna take a risk tomorrow. If the weather is good, going to Camberwell Market (haven't had a chance for several months.) A risk because it means I will find heaps of wonderful treasures, antiques, etc. then the temptation, aargh but so worth it.
lol.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 23, 2008 9:29 AM

G�day All, I would like take this chance to thank the ladies who were so full of prase & compliments for me on this blog today :) but one of you felt that she had to message me & apologise to me for say it, you felt that you had mybe embarrassed me, well that is not the case, I was very flattered & to tell you the truth I was a little pink around the gills while I was reading them but I don�t see that as a bad thing :), it has been awhile since I have been complimented like that & for that I thank you :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 23, 2008 3:35 AM

hmmm. I see a tendency to over analyse, perhaps that is the risk? Perhaps over analysing, creating expectations, that is really the risk that prevents us from finding what we 'think' we want.

Posted by: aquamanda56 at August 23, 2008 2:08 AM

... bungey jumping... did it once, at birth. Didn't like it then, still don't like it...

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 22, 2008 11:50 PM

Posted by: waternymph47 at August 22, 2008 8:37 PM - Aha! Waternymph... so you lied about your age... LoL.

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 22, 2008 11:47 PM

Good evening 1 & all thank God it's friday :)

amourmoi08 .. Many thanks for the welcome & I love boston legal as it reminds me of my silly side. I take heed of your kind advice... blessings & bliss to u :)

H2H I'm not on any mind altering substances but do marvel & wonder how the mind can alter when the effect of nature kicks in. Maybe u know what I mean if I say.. driving the Great Coast Road on a sunny but showery day. God like clouds with the sun beaming from them... brisk salty air hitting ya cheeks & the broadest smile on the dial & you feel so blessed & alive to witness the natural beauty of our planet... yep toe curling stuff :)

auntykaz. Thank U for your greetings... sincerely hope ya feeling better soon. As my grandmother would say when I had a cold or was feeling below par "work up a good sweat dear & it will get rid all that ails U". I look back now & wonder if most of her sayings had hidden messages or if it's now just my mind :)

As for the posts & the topics I have enough trouble understanding what everyone is saying but most times I enjoy the read. I'm like the quiet kid who stands on the sidelines with a smile & a frown. :) Mostly enjoying the interactions but sometimes not really sure what's happening. So I'll keep kicking the sand with my toes & see what happens. :) In saying all this & keeping in mind my first post with its leap of risk ehhh .... :) I hope I don't bring on a scene from life of brian & the stoning begins.

Gentle blessings softfeather :)

Posted by: softfeather at August 22, 2008 11:41 PM

Dancing on your own....can be a risk in itself. Was driving back from Broken Hill one gorgeous Sunday arvo, middle of nowhere, a bit tired from a long night the night before, so pulled over to stretch the legs. No sign of anyone around. Great music on the radio, so turned it up and danced around like no one was watching for a while....felt great singing loudly and badly...what a feeling! the risk.........did not see a truck parking bay behind the rows of bushes and drove off to the sound of laughter clapping and a few horns...embarrased?? heck yes...but felt so great anyway it didnt matter. Such a beautiful country we have here!! And fortunately it seems the humour to go with it!!
Cheers

Posted by: lifebegins47 at August 22, 2008 11:22 PM

Aunty Kaz, Go to your Chinese Markets and buy Chinese cold tablets. For about $5 they are 100% more effective than all the chemist paraphernalia.

With regard to risk - it can be the most exciting thing about our lives. (It's the 'not knowing' that keeps us alive.)

Forget the bungey jumping, Sometimes it takes a 'risk' on our part to return a bad piece of meat to the butcher. It's part of every minute of our day, and the very fabric of our lives.

I remember a great line from the movie 'Harold and Maude' when Maude says to Harold: 'Reach out - Take a chance- Get hurt even ....... L-I-V-E .

Posted by: margie18 at August 22, 2008 10:04 PM

Amourmoi, we both got the same cold l think...... best we get onto the medicinal Brandy to help ease it l think!

As for dancing alone, l find myself doing the weiredest little "Kaz dances" to all manner of song. It lets me get out of my head so to speak and just let go.
But is better to dance with someone at times too!! Specially if they can sway to my beat...............K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 22, 2008 9:35 PM

Sure its a huge risk, especially when you put your heart and soul into everything you do.

But as it has been said before, it feels fantastic. And worth it.

amourmoi.... Hay gurl...xxx

Posted by: saintly08 at August 22, 2008 8:41 PM

("I dont understand why TW keeps harping on about Perth. I believe she is a real person although well out of TW's league.")

Greg how do you decide wether someone is out of TW's or anyone's League??
To then proceed scathingly to tell him that if he .. "still have not had a relationship I would suggest you have a serious product problem." ... is really going a bit far.
Have you become so smug in your own security Greg that you forget what a painstking process it can be? "Just curious?" I don't think so!
Have been very quiet on the blogs of late and will continue to be absent over the next few weeks.
Going to a 130yr Anniversary/Reunion at my old School in a couple of weeks and currently busy getting booked and organised.
Might come back with some new thoughts next month!

Posted by: waternymph47 at August 22, 2008 8:37 PM

I dont want to bungee jump either, Waternymph, but a friend is teaching me to fly when the weather is better. "Let's punch a hole in the sky"! I hope he doesnt bring his German Shepherd, much as I like dogs :)
Biggest risk this weekend is a Mexican style (ie margueritas and tequila slammers) pyjama party - all female of course.

Posted by: willow29 at August 22, 2008 8:28 PM

Waternymph, first up Im glad you dance & sing while no one is watching or listerning, Its a great feeling to just let go Ü, as for email & men, I myself find it hard to express myself in an email, messagering or texting & would always like to talk on the phone then write an email, there is to reasons for this first up it is easier to express yoursef, Second there is more interact talking then emailing.....from the phone you can get a real feeling for you are talking to :)

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 22, 2008 8:24 PM

Saintly: You go girlfriend*** You rock xx

Thanks for the bliss kiss and hugs I am feeling so much more loved and better now thank you quality girl much appreciatedxx

wn47 you have a gold star in the mail for your post.

Sick em Kurli with the courage of a lion.

Eral I have sent you some coal in the mail from santa and sent the easter bunny who now has rabies from the vampire that tried to suck the blood from the tooth fairy onto you to beat you about with the talking and love stick..........but you still have your mojo to work on so peace out xxxxxxxx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 22, 2008 8:23 PM

what about fairy's and elves......shit and no santa...OMG what have we got left????
Life would be pretty boring with out fantasy....and I love fantasy....mostly the sci-fi kind but I also still believe in true love and that there is someone out there for me, as well as someone out there for you.....just hope I find him before I get much older!!!!!!! just my thoughts...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 22, 2008 8:21 PM

Posted by: willow29 at August 22, 2008 7:05 PM - Ruh-roh.... Rooby-Doo... :)

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 22, 2008 8:09 PM

WHAT there really is NO SANTA?????

Posted by: saintly08 at August 22, 2008 7:55 PM

Don't want to bungee jump.. would like to skydive .... but am becoming very cynical about romantic risk taking!
DRIFTER The "dance as if no one is watching" motto is something I have had on a Fridge magnet for years .. just to remind myself.
I often dance as if no one is watching .. just because I like the music ,, and sing for the same reason. There's even a photo of me on a Jazz site .. dancing as if no one as looking .. and getting applause for it.
As for finding a life partner .. well Ive taken many a risk there and made a fair few bad choices.
There may be a lot of men on RSVP but filtering thru the quantity to get to the quality is seemingly impossible. It's hard not to become cynical and sceptical after reading hundreds of profiles.
If I communicate with a guy who seems like quality .. I will probably get no response.. as firstly I'm out of his age bracket ie same age or a year or 2 older. He seems to have set his demographic so high that I cant begin to aim for it.
As for 25-30 datesTW .. most guys dont even have the patience to get past 2 or 3 emails and want the instant phone call followed by instant meeting. Sorry that does not work for me!

ERAL, we all may need a carer one day .. even you... but hopefully if it gets to that stage you will have enough love and compassion for one another to do so willingly.
To want a companion in life is a basic human need and no matter how you may try to put it in a package that suits you ..expecting more than you can possibly hope to get from any person at first meeting is self delusional.
It's hard I know to find the fine line between believeing you are special and not coming accross as seeming to think you are too special.
All the cliches in the world won't explain the situation nor make this process easy nor painless.
So yes each encounter is a risk. You risk the pain of hurt or rejection to win the prize of loving and being loved and accepted for who you are!

Posted by: waternymph47 at August 22, 2008 7:52 PM

amourmoi08 at August 22, 2008 4:26 PM

firstly hugs and kisses for the headache and cold

and re the rest of that post, spot on
:-)

Posted by: qualitygal1 at August 22, 2008 7:29 PM

I believe that if someone you recognise as being a blogger sends you a kiss - it certainly doesn't hurt to kiss back. It may be friendship, it may be they are interested in you. Why not accept the kiss as either. You have nothing to lose, if you happen to like that blogger in the first place. We can do with more friends, and maybe someone whose profile didn't interest you is someone you get on well with on the blogs. Therefore there is a connection that might be worth exploring from a romance point of view.

Life is short, go for it in either case :-)

Posted by: qualitygal1 at August 22, 2008 7:26 PM

ERAL @5.17pm------maybe many of the bloggers can relate to the adrenalin rush of "RISK"!!
Love;relationship.........maybe it's just another power surge/adrenalin rush........
for myself,having been there/done that (with a wonderful man) I still believe in the 'tooth fairy';in santa..........and a "happy ever after".

As I've said many times: "Hope springs eternal"
and that dear ERAL is the difference between "man" and the apes......... we have a choice!
I truly hope for so many of you that you get past your nonchalance,bravado and cynicism,and work at truly finding a great relationship.........I've had it once; and if I could be so blessed to find it again,I would classify myself as the most fortunate of persons.....................and this is what some of you crucified our lovely lady (EL/JD and ELF) for searching for.........
Take another CLOSE look at yourselves........
peace,love and enlightenment!! :-)

Posted by: kurli at August 22, 2008 7:15 PM

and H2H, I won't point out that you had "rears" rolling down your face, because the mental image is mind boggling :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 22, 2008 7:05 PM

H2H - isn't it brilliant? :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 22, 2008 6:54 PM

are you saying santa doesnt exist ? im devastated but your thoughts are spot on tho i think most of the people on here dont want to know

Posted by: chad1958 at August 22, 2008 6:50 PM

Wow, ERAL, thats a rather scathing post. A lot of people on this post don't need "care" - they can take care of themselves. Falling in love is fun, (as said in previous blogs) and if it doesnt work out, the normal ones of us move on. I know Im not the only one who is still friends with past loves. And those of us who are, haven't needed to punish the lover because we HAVE been around the block a few times and know that people change.

Doing the telling IS more difficult - especially if there has been a relationship or declaration of love. If there hasn't, don't assume they are in love. If she loved you, she would have told you. Sure it hurts, when you're rejected and one can assume that if you're doing the rejecting, the other is hurt. But its better than living a lie and both parties should understand that. Guilt often comes from within.

Posted by: willow29 at August 22, 2008 6:49 PM

Posted by: willow29 at August 20, 2008 12:36 PM in "Does Time Really Tell?" - Classic! Had rears rolling down my face, coz I've done half those stoopid things Mr Bean was intimating... LoL.

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 22, 2008 6:08 PM

I am somewhat dismayed by this mythical beast, called 'Love' or "Relationship", that some of you appear to be so afraid of.

Afraid, firstly to find it, and then again not to find it !

Lets be honest - did you all really enjoy the feelings of your past relationships so very much? Or was it more a matter of your loyalty to the idea of it, and its overbearing idealism that motivated you day after day?

Pretending to love someone, just because your too afraid to hurt them with the truth is wonderful isn't it ? Most of you have been around the block a few times now , and yet you speak like you still believe in Santa Claus !

What is the risk you feel ?
That when it end comes, the truth of it will come out and add to your already overwhelming sorrows ?

Then its really care your really after, and not really love. You want some to help you nurse your pain in life..

"I don't love you anymore."

Don't you remember how much fun you had in youth falling in and out of love, almost weekly with different people. Without prejudice. Even in th same day !

The worst thing about 'relationships' is NOT of being hurt oneself - but of being held responsible for the pain of another - their GUILT trip and anger !
Isn't that what is risky ?

Because with guilt, there often comes punishment.

To be honest, I understand why people are daunted by the prospect of having to tell someone - its not me - its you.
They never take it well do they ?
Especially if they think they LOVE YOU !

Which is worse being told, or having to do the telling?

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 22, 2008 5:17 PM

now bloggers I send you this with much love and good intention and it is always mostly well received with the exception of a few....that shall remain nameless...

I do not condon many things that are said on this site however I do believe that we all have an entitlement to get the most out of this site as many have invested our credit cards and much earned money into an investment that often goes belly up with little notice to all creditors and investors alike....

So with that I would just like to say that my pop use to call me funny little names like cricket due to the fact that I use to talk and talk(some things never change)

He also use to call me puppet (and no he was not a victim of sex abuse or abuse his grandkids)

I use to get dressed in Nanas get up and play the piano for my whoe family and we would all sing and laugh together around the piano.

That was back in the day prior to this type of forum.

If you don't like to blog just ignore it as it only inflames the page and makes me want to find a nicer one to look at..
peace out and so sorry to go on so much but at home sick today nursing a poor head and cold xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 22, 2008 4:26 PM

amourmoi08@12.13pm---
"Bliss kiss" I LIKE that!

Posted by: kurli at August 22, 2008 4:05 PM

Posted by: amberlight58 at August 22, 2008 9:00 AM

Agree with you Amber. I dont understand why TW keeps harping on about Perth. I believe she is a real person although well out of TW's league.

TW, if you have actually had the 150+ dates you purport to have had and still have not had a relationship I would suggest you have a serious product problem.

Have any of the ladies expired from boredom during one of your prodigious 2 hour first dates? Just curious.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 22, 2008 3:44 PM

TW@11.46pm Thurs----Come on ,give us all a break from your so-called street theatre!
It seems to me that you think you alone are entitled to be "outrageous".
Many of us appreciated IAIP's,WBs and ELFs painfully frank postings and I think it a great pity that two of them have departed....and you're still here.
Water Bombe,amberlight,Greg0.H2H57 and a few others.....I look forward to your insights.

Posted by: kurli at August 22, 2008 2:01 PM

The dating game - why do we risk everything to play?

Basically we are all searching for someone that attracts us, has similar values and holds our interest. For most, this is not our first experience. We have refined our tastes through trial and error. Why then, do we insist on playing the dating game and risk one or both being hurt (players excluded). We shelve our emotions, often hiding behind others, to remain distant and detached. Would not the better approach be admitting we are interested and taking advantage of the opportunity presented. No iron-clad contract is being signed, just joint desires being aligned. Should these desires diverge, we have experienced moments to be enjoyed as memories and re-commence our search.

Why add complicating layers when our needs are so often simple...sigh.

Posted by: aqueousdb66 at August 22, 2008 12:21 PM

Oops, Amber, I meant :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 22, 2008 12:16 PM

say it all with love...kiss who you like and try not to think so much about it.

Chances are if they really do like you and they are in good company here as we find ourselves they will observe your intentions and then send an email???

Kiss all the good ones that need a kiss at the end of a long and sometimes ardous day as it is fun and never intended to injure, hurt or otherwise dispose of ones feelings in such a way.

Here is a kiss for all of you my blogger friends xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Oh and a new word that a newer blogger came up with

Give them a bliss kiss xxxxxxxxx :)

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 22, 2008 12:13 PM

TW l read of your thoughts on IAIP and have to say that l'm not in agreeance with you, but realise your right to your opinion.

I also find Perth's postings to be a usually good read, (except when you are in a bad mood P), just jokin' there.......

Softfeather, welcome, gentle one to this field of dreams!

Yes l have to agree with your comment re our outback fella, as l'm sure most of the ladies present will........

Off work with the cold from hell, is it a risk to have a Brandy this early in the day, l wonder?? Medicinal purposes and all that.................K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 22, 2008 12:07 PM

outbackdrifter.

Umm...I had to take a look at what all the fuss (softfeather) was about.
I concur.
:-)

Posted by: egernia at August 22, 2008 12:05 PM

"Personally I like Perth, I find her to be a woman who is completely up-front, if she ruffles a few feathers along the way, so be it.
She's not scared to say what she thinks and any bloke who had a relationship with her would know exactly where he stands."
I'm with you, Kisskat.

Posted by: willow29 at August 22, 2008 9:08 AM

TW, usually I enjoy your posts and have some wise words to say, but you do have an obsession with Perth, which I find incredible irritating!
Personally I like Perth, I find her to be a woman who is completely up-front, if she ruffles a few feathers along the way, so be it.
She's not scared to say what she thinks and any bloke who had a relationship with her would know exactly where he stands.
A trait I think, that some men who may have lived with more dramatic women would very much appreciate!

I know Perth often gives you a hard time and you certainly return the favour, so it seems pretty obvious to most of us that you are not particularly "fond" of each other.
But for the sake of the rest of us, could you just lay off the "puppet" accusations?
I really don't care that you think Perth is a "puppet", each of us is entitled to our opinion of each other and I know I also annoy the cr*p out of some of the other bloggers too!
However, we are all entitled to be here and treated with respect.
If you continue to think that Perth is a "puppet" then that is your right, but the rest of us don't really want to hear about your "suspicions" on an ad-nauseum basis!

Some could almost accuse you of being an RSVP advertising "puppet" TW, with your exhausting dating agenda!

Posted by: amberlight58 at August 22, 2008 9:00 AM

Posted by: maestrac at August 21, 2008 11:15 PM re replying to bloggers' kisses.....
i am equally confused. you don't know whether the person is just acknowledging you as a blogger or that they're actually interested in you. i don't want to offend anyone. if i recognise the name as a blogger i currently don't know how i am supposed to respond.

Posted by: kisskat at August 22, 2008 8:41 AM

softfeather welcome to the what I like to view as the nut house (boston legal style)

Send outback Jack an email he is adorable in every sense of the word.

Yes he does have a fine back side and I
can say that he doesn't just let any filly yourself to share his saddle...he is a diamond in the making xx

he is worthy of your admiration from a far and would return the intentions ten fold...

ps don't be a stranger now you are a fully fledge blogger...xxxx

H2h is just concerned that he did not come up with a better photo climbing out of his fast car xxxxxx all good humour h2h xx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 22, 2008 8:01 AM

waterbombe at August 21, 2008 5:50 PM: This blog is about the risks of internet dating, so the following reply to you is right on topic.

I too believed for several months that Perth was real, till Mr S used her and Aliane (since then admitted to be another of his puppets) to simultaneously attack another blogger - his recently-dumped girlfriend. You don't expect that.

But I agree with you that overall, Perth is good value on the blogs - his most credible character yet, and I last said so here, only about a month ago.

And I often reply to her as if she was real, always when she's said something particularly admirable. A good idea doesn't care who has it, but the suggester still deserves congratulation, no matter who it is.

My comment below at 4.17pm was in reply to Perth's at 9.04pm last night, which I'd only just seen.

She had been backing up Greg's comment that I should be careful not to create dissonance in the people I meet, and I was immediately reminded that as a puppet, that's a problem she certainly doesn't have herself. My response was just telling him that I'd got his joke.

Same with our exchange this morning in the Break Up blog - I had to call him for his outrageous cheek.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 21, 2008 11:46 PM

TW 5:59pm and the men on this site don't have photos that are 5 - 10 years younger

I think not, considering the majority of the guys I have met

Posted by: qualitygal1 at August 21, 2008 11:27 PM

How do you say thank you to a friendship kiss Posted by: junebaby57 at August 21, 2008 6:33pm

June, send a kiss back - not a reply. That works :) Posted by: willow29 at August 21, 2008 9:38 PM

It didn't work in my case, I received a kiss from a man in Melbourne (I'm in Sydney) stating he liked my honesty. I thought it must be someone who reads the blogs and is just sending a friendly kiss, so I sent a kiss back and received a "waiting for your email". So I got it wrong. No I didn't follow up as Melbourne is just a tad too far.

But seriously, how does one know if it's a friendly or serious kiss unless they state they want to get to know you (or if it's from the same sex)

Posted by: maestrac at August 21, 2008 11:15 PM

LoL@amour... very tempted to stick my hand in the air with sign and an arrow on it pointing down at moi saying "Pick me.. PICK ME!" LoL.

Mousa - when I'm good, I'm good, but when I'm *bad*, I'm better (sorry Mae).

And I want some of whatever SoftFeather is on... :)

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 21, 2008 11:14 PM

Heart2heart57- Just wanted to say I liked what you had to say about risktaking, and racing!Shame you only know "bad boys" !Good luck with finding your "gem",and take care on the track!

Posted by: mousaikalliope at August 21, 2008 10:49 PM

h2h and how do you know that I do not hold and inner bad girl? xxx

And if I so choose the one bad or nice boy I would part the wind at cycloptic speed to be in my fav spot....next to him of course....x

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 21, 2008 10:28 PM

Gentle blessings one & all .... after being single for a number of years & also being a quiet silent observer of all that goes on with RSVP I'm taking a big risk (for me) something tads worse than bungee jumping or putting it out there by writing my first comment .... by God "outbackdrifter" has the best butt I've seen for many a year :) his butt has made my day, my year ... the confidence of this man is just great ... must admit I haven't read all the comments about this topic but I'm sure drifting off course is par for testing the waters & the sandpit .... yep looking at his butt makes a change from checking all the butts of men waiting at street crossings, supermarkets, petrol stations, blo### Bunnings & all the other places where I practise this very naughty habit ... ahhh life is grand ... as my motto goes "Senior Earth Mama's do it with passion, dignity & a gentle quiet smile" ......so sorry to everyone for moving off track but ya get that when ya see something that makes ya toes curl & puts a smile on the dial ... again sorry for the diversion & gentle blessings ... :)

Posted by: softfeather at August 21, 2008 10:22 PM

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 21, 2008 9:45 PM - "Speed... speed... gimme what I need" :) But it's not all 'life in the fast lane' yanno... That's what the motor-racing is for, and I do my 'racing' on the track. Fill up on adrenaline, the come back down on endorphines. It's an amazing feeling...

It's a risk - no doubt about it. But the rewards are worth it. Not unlike the risk of sticking your neck out and heart on the line taking that leap into what we call 'dating'. Skeery stuff sometimes, but if we take that risk, we might just find that gem we've all been looking for.

And no, I don't "have any nice boys my age that I can hang out with" for you - I only know *bad* boyz... LoL.

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 21, 2008 10:16 PM

I've sent a few "hi" kisses, just because I liked the persons profile or something resonated but their perfect partner info put me out of their interest range. Mostly I don't even expect a reply, though a 'thanks for saying hi' reply option would nice.

I persevere on RSVP because I believe it gives me another avenue for meeting people. the risks are minimal provided one is sensible and heeds any warning signals.

Unfortunately there must be something about my profile that just doesn't attract much interest, so I can't report much in the way of good or bad experiences. Just a couple of 'I think you would make a good friend but......' and that's the end of that. It could just be a Canberra thing...

The optimist in me says don't give up. I'm going to a party on Saturday so I might even meet someone interesting there. Yay

Posted by: aquamanda56 at August 21, 2008 10:02 PM

from the shine of amour to the beauty of the Jewel you are most welcome and most deserving xx

h2h do you have any nice boys my age that I can hang out with, as your fast life and fast living is too much like mine and you are a number higher than me xx

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 21, 2008 9:45 PM

June, send a kiss back - not a reply. That works :)

Posted by: willow29 at August 21, 2008 9:38 PM

June - you can send a more neutral 'Hi' kiss through RSVip, but unfortunately, you can't respond to a kiss received in the same way...

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 21, 2008 8:59 PM

how do you say thank you to a friendship kiss.....those standard responses still don't cater for that kind of scenario. When someone likes what you have written, or they just want to send you a smile......haven't we been asking for more flexible responses for about 12 months now??

So thank you for the thoughts A08 it really is appreciated....jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 21, 2008 6:33 PM

how do you say thank you to a friendship kiss.....those standard responses still don't cater for that kind of scenario. When someone likes what you have written, or they just want to send you a smile......haven't we been asking for more flexible responses for about 12 months now??

So thank you for the thoughts A08 it really is appreciated....jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 21, 2008 6:31 PM

I think the risks on this site would be experienced differently by males and females. Let me guess about some of the risks:

1) I guess that the women who say they are over 55, are divorced or widowed, AND have had children, are telling the truth.
(Except that my eyes sometimes suspect when we meet that she's 5 years older than she claimed, and sometimes even her photo says that, before we meet.)

I've met over 150 of this class of woman in the last two and a half years, and I have almost always believed the details of their (usually very interesting) life stories.

And all but about ten of them obviously have very nice natures. Kind and sweet, although some wore pretty stroppy heart-armour, and the most desireable (to me) would obviously put up with no nonsense. Why should they?

So I'd say, with the kind of woman I'm busy searching for, hardly any risks at all. We'll click, or we (nearly always) won't, and if we do, we'll stay together or we won't, but no hard feelings or nasty stuff - just the level of compatibility turns out to be and stay high enough, or it doesn't.

2) I have no experience of the women on RSVP who claim to be single or separated, who have bourne or reared no children, or are under 55. They're not in my target market, so I leave it to other statistically-reliable serial daters to tell you about them.

3) Nor have I any direct experience of the men in RSVP, except before I registered my RSVP callsign.

On my first day on the internet in Jan 2006, I said I was a wrinkly chick, and asked to see the profiles of the 100 most-recently-active Brisbane RSVP men between 60 and 75. I read all their profiles in full, and took detailed statistical notes. (Marketing, step one: research what the opposition is advertising, before you design your own campaign. )

Yes Greg, I am boringly thorough, and rather proud of it, actually. Typical high-distinction student in the sciences, 50-odd years ago. Came 15th in the State, in the Qld Uni Matric. exams in 1954.

Very interesting reading, those old blokes' profiles. Some sounded like lovely warm-hearted people looking for soulmates, but short on assets. I related to that.

Others shared an unstated motto "Be nice, because I'm rich." Some were even dangling the carrot of 3-5month round the world trips, all expenses paid. (Mainly a chance to view a hundred different midnight ceilings, one would suspect....)
................................................................

So I'm really delighted with the typical quality of the many women that I've actually met on RSVP -

BECAUSE I used RSVP's excellent Profile detail to screen out what I didn't want, and then more than half of the 400-odd women that I've carefully selected to send kisses to (so far) screened me out, because they didn't fancy the sound of me. All good, and exactly how it's supposed to be.
.............................................................

I now invite responses from any RSVP females who have qualified themselves to comment on this topic, by already having met face to face, a statistically-significant sample of RSVP blokes - say 25 or 30 at least.

Homework for the rest of you: go meet enough people to let YOU see a valid trend for yourself, not just stop after a couple of individual bad experiences which you have chosen to invalidly extrapolate ...

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 21, 2008 5:59 PM

TW you are the only person I know of who persists with the idea that iaminperth is not a real person. Your posts don't make sense to others unless they know that's what you think. I feel quite sure Perth is real, but how does it matter anyway? She writes good compassionate straightfoward posts, and is often funny. I like having her on the blog. She does give you a fair bit of stick, and I can't say I blame her....but is that why you are writing these obscure posts to a "doll" ?

Posted by: waterbombe at August 21, 2008 5:50 PM

The only Risk I see at the moment.............. Is getting broadside on the blog , play nice children

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 21, 2008 5:08 PM

heart2heart57 at August 21, 2008 12:37 AM: One of the best posts I've read here yet. Thank you.

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 21, 2008 4:26 PM

iaminperth at August 20, 2008 9:04 PM : I guess cognitive dissonance when you actually meet the person wouldn't be a big problem at all for you, would it ? (-8

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 21, 2008 4:17 PM

The risk with dating is that you do meet the person of your dreams as much as meeting someone that actually hurts you.

Posted by: capriciousimp at August 21, 2008 4:16 PM

part 2 of my earlier post.

With regards to dating risk taking, I firmly believe in the old motto 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'. I joined RSVP with no preconcieved notions and was initially not prepared for the hurly burly
of this dating site. I learnt pretty quickly. Most importantly, I was willing to learn, to experience the joy, heartache and some guilt that came with the journey.

Posted by: egernia at August 21, 2008 3:33 PM

H2H 12.37
Thanks cos I sure was thinking that I would run! I have only had bad experiences on here too. (lol don't no why?!?) .
I am a what you see is what you get sort of person and started to think that maybe I am too honest and open for this sort of site. But after reading your post that changed my mind and have decided to keep taking the risk!!

Posted by: lovetolaugh57 at August 21, 2008 12:47 PM

Lifebegins, qualitygal and H2H

Wonderful posts! When the risks are not taken the benefits can never be fully appreciated :)

Posted by: aqueousdb66 at August 21, 2008 12:04 PM

Well written H2H...applause

During my 'single' time here on RSVP most of the men I met were lovely & honest. A couple of fella's were unusual and a bit scary.
I had one 2 month relationship, one 6 month relationship and one 2+ year friendship. I also met my fiance here 19 months ago.

Posted by: egernia at August 21, 2008 10:46 AM

WB and others , I did say that I have met some lovely men, I have also met heaps of friends, male and female, thru the blogs, as you know.
My post is not a doom, gloom or wrist slashing post...and I can only talk about my experiences with men, cause I don't date women!!!!!

Just a thought, maybe it is because there are more women bloggers than men, so you get a more female view on the blogs.

I have a very honest profile, I expect honesty in return....I didn't always get that. I am just having a rethink as I have tried this for 18 months so I am just taking a break.

I have a huge job on at the moment, ( a new building fit out) the next 2 months is heaps of late days and weekend work and calls...dating takes a lot of time and energy, and I need a man who gets that, so he doesn't take offense at me sometimes being late, having to take calls, having to rearrange dates.....the last one was not happy, so maybe I don't have time for dating while I have this large project on.

BUT when I am in quiet time at work, between projects, dating can be a lot of fun!!!! I should point out that I am in a male dominated field, I work with a lot of men, I employ men on my projects, so there is nothing soft or romantic about what I spend a lot of my time doing. One of my close male friends loves the "male side of me" (apparently I am very logical, honest and upfront) and we get on great, but another man receently told me I was not romantic. and late and other shit...so I need a rethink of this part of my life, after 18 months, a rethink can't hurt!!!!
Just my thoughts...jewels..

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 21, 2008 7:42 AM

Waterbombe - you are right, let's get away from the gloom and doom.

But getting back to the topic and to repeat / paraphrase what a few others have said.

Rock climbing, parachuting, rally driving, you know the risks going in. Oh sure, we hope that the worst doesn't happen, but if it does, we can hardly shout quelle horreur.

Risking your heart though, with all the vagaries, and imponderables involved, that is much more risky, and much more exciting. And if that particular risk pays off, well I am willing to pay for the downers that occur along the way.

Except for the ratbags, that just stop emailing / ringing :-)

Posted by: qualitygal1 at August 21, 2008 1:26 AM

Waterbombe@ August 20 1058pm....well as perviously said, I have met someone lovely from internet dating, and look forward to gently seeing where it goes. This was not my first date with an internet guy and have met some lovely guys over the time, just not the special lovely. There are sincere, honest, open and giving men on this site, and others, its just finding them thats a bit harder. The ones that really dont know why they are here, or shouldnt be here, are just more active I think to get the attention they seek. This I believe applies equally to women and men.
Chalk them up to a lesson learnt and move on or you can become as indecisive as them.
If you look for the negatives, you will find them........
So stay positive and as someone said in response to my other blog post....kiss a few frogs and frogettes, you may be surprised.
Still trying to wipe the smile off my face!!!
Cheers

Posted by: lifebegins47 at August 21, 2008 1:09 AM

Posted by: waterbombe at August 20, 2008 10:58 PM - Couldn't agree with you more. I can't understand it sometimes. No matter which blog you read, there seems to be this constant off-topic bleating and chest-beating of who's right, who's wrong, and who's had it 'harder'. FFS, we've all been through the wash. Same people pushing the same drivel.

Is using RSVP going to find you a partner? Maybe, maybe not. But it's a medium where those of us that aren't into the nightclub scene stand a chance of maybe finding new friendships, same sex or opposite. Or maybe something more. There's thousands of people registered here, all in the same predicament. If we are open minded and willing to take a 'risk', who knows what doors will open?

The blogs here are intended for like minded people to exchange ideas on certain topics. So that we may glean more info from people we only know through their profiles. So that we might just learn something from another's wisdom. Or see things from a different perspective. It's no different to 'real life'. Granted, there is no body language, or intonation to the words, but we can get a general idea of where people are at. Might not work all the time, but it's an *opportunity*.

And that's what life's all about. Opportunities. We can choose to consider them, or fob them off into the too-hard-basket. For exploring an opportunity, any opportunity, places us at risk. Different levels for different people - but risk just the same.

From reading and participating in many of the blogs, it becomes apparent that some writers expose themselves to great risk by being open and honest, while others minimise that risk by cloaking their true nature. That all comes out in the wash anyways.

When we enter into a relationship, be it simple friendship or beyond, there is an element of risk. A risk that we may be 'found out' as fakers. A risk that we may get hurt. A risk that we open ourselves up to emotional and physical predator's that thrive on manipulation. A risk that we might just realise who we really are. A risk that's worth taking.

Two things in life are certain: death, and taxes. The rest is open to risk.

Bette Midler's "The Rose" puts it elegantly:

Its the heart afraid of breaking, that never learns to dance
Its the dream afraid of waking, that never takes the chance
Its the one who wont be taken, the one who cant seem to give
And the soul afraid of dying, that never learns to live

We can all play 'turtle' or 'ostrich', pull our heads in or bury them. Stay were we were, because of what's happened. Or we can take that risk, and move on. Grow. Learn. Love. Hurt. Laugh. Cry. But at least we're living...

Posted by: heart2heart57 at August 21, 2008 12:37 AM

piscesgirl56 August 20, 2008 10:15 PM

".....creative stuart' I agree with you, we must be 'ready' from inside to accept what we long for, because we will always atract the person who matches our own vulnerabilities. If I am hurting I will attract somebody who is at the same place so we will keep hurting each other. An emotionally stable person will not want to be with and unstable one!...."

That sounds extraordinary. How will we 'always' attract someone who matches our own vulnerabilities? Where is the evidence?
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at August 20, 2008 11:40 PM

It seems to me that it is always the woman going on about the awful men on the site. What about the poor blokes who have in all good faith met some ghastly awful women. I'll bet there are some real horror stories there, but they don't seem to relay them quite as easily as the females do.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 20, 2008 11:40 PM

Typing on this blog page is a risk within itself really!

Chances happen every day.

If my heart was any more open the Good Spirit of Dr Victor Chang would invite you in and refer some of the regulars on this site to a good professional in mental health, a good law firm, send you to Gucci in the city, send you to all the places you should go if only you went outside your four walls at times?????

I love the feeling and am addicted to falling it is no more a risk that getting killed at coles by a run away trolley....

My heart gets broken daily not by men but by the other people in this world that I have to some times share more than a square of anything with!

A relationship will come when the one I chose finds me and I find him.

I love life and all the risks I take as a human being x

Posted by: amourmoi08 at August 20, 2008 11:12 PM

C'mon, people, those of us who have met lovely blokes on RSVP ...even if it lasted 3 months, six months, a year.... could we say so, to stem this tide of wrist-slashing that's going on here? I've said it previously myself, and I know quite a few of my blogger friends have met nice guys...there has to be other people out there too..let's hear some postitive stories.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 20, 2008 10:58 PM

'grego' I read your comment in "intimacy, is it easy to have it?" about men and intimacy in general...it was a very well said, very true statement! Men and women all have the same need for intimacy, feeling of security, trust and love - culturally, environmentally shaped differences are not real differences...and yes! Emotionally stable women would appreciate and love an emotionally available, sensitive, loyal and committed man without 'walls'...

Posted by: piscesgirl56 at August 20, 2008 10:25 PM

Well said 'grego'... also: it depends what's the goal is: getting hundreds of dates or finding the right person? Whenever I have too many choices I get confused about what I really want. When I reduce my choices to very minimum it is easier to decide what's 'good for me'.

'creative stuart' I agree with you, we must be 'ready' from inside to accept what we long for, because we will always atract the person who matches our own vulnerabilities. If I am hurting I will attract somebody who is at the same place so we will keep hurting each other. An emotionally stable person will not want to be with and unstable one!

istj54 - it seems that RSVP is a great way to make lots of dates, BUT not the ideal option if one wants to meet that right person without wasting time on useless meetings.

I met only one man from RSVP and was put off this 'game' already. It is too stressful dealing with people I do not know...I feel like an item at the 'meat market'...I find is very stressful when my personal space is being invaded without invitation...it is dissapointing when I think I am meeting a single, free man to realise that he is not only seeing his wife regularly (might even not be separated, who knows) but he has unfinished busyness with a long term lover as well...it does not affect my self esteem in any way, but it does make me think that this is not really the right way of finding that right man - not my cup of tea.

junebaby57 - I do not blame you at all, you have lasted quite a long time here and had your hopes up just to discover that there is not much hope...but please, do not lose your faith in men and dating: this is not telling you much about that, this might be just telling you that RSVP is not your choice of meeting men... you might like to look for other ways of meeting new people...maybe joining a group that you can identify with? A group which shares your interests and values? I am thinking about doing that, even though I will have to push myself hard to get off my bottom part and start going out...like join a Tai Chi group (apparently there you can meet many really nice people) or a dancing class???

'eartsrootsand leaves' I like James Nachtwey's idea, this is exactly how I cope with life's challenges...I always look for possibilities even under most traumatic circumstances...and never make the same mistake twice - I learn from them...and I have learned if something does not work one way, I should try other avenues...I like to set a goal for myself and do not allow the hardships on the way towards that goal to turn me off from continuing...

'Curly' - very well said! There is no improvement without change and there is no change without risk ... so we need to know what excatly we are prepared to risk for which gain and than just go for it and take responsibility for all consequences. I believe it is foolish that we can avoid the risk and still make the change we want...like some people want to leave their marriage but they are not prepared tp leave it until they find that 'right' replacement person. They are too weak to take the responsibility for the changes they want to see happening in their lives...they want 'it' without risking anything - it just does not work! From the posts in these blogs it seems RSVP is the perfect site for that kind of people...I feel I am already put off, and I just joined few weeks ago!

Posted by: piscesgirl56 at August 20, 2008 10:15 PM

HaHa, Lynath...talk about living on the edge!!!............K

Posted by: auntykaz at August 20, 2008 9:58 PM

dear diary,
tonight I open a jar of gourmet asparagus spears past the use by date.......I even ate a piece and so far have not died....
carpe diem

Posted by: thelynathdiary at August 20, 2008 9:04 PM

Posted by: timewarp1 at August 19, 2008 11:50 PM

"So I think I better have another look at my own profile this weekend."

Warper, why change something that has been so successful and led to hundreds of dates. As the old advertising slogan goes... when you are onto a good thing stick to it.

There is, however, one marketing concept that you may find useful. It is called cognitive dissonance. It occurs when consumer expectation created by publicity and advertising is not met when the consumer actually uses the product.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 20, 2008 1:17 PM
Grego, Amen to that !!!!! Could not have said it better myself.

Posted by: iaminperth at August 20, 2008 9:04 PM

I like that saying " if you keep on doing what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got". Lifebegins47, good on you for trying something different, it seems to have got you a good result, different to what you've had before. Congrats on having the good sense to have several dates with that guy because he seemed like a nice person, even though there weren't any fireworks whizzing round your heads.

Posted by: waterbombe at August 20, 2008 8:08 PM

I met a man today who had been put in a nursing home because he had been walking outside and blown over by a gust of wind....he is 92 ...
extreme walking at 92 is pretty risky it seems....

Posted by: thelynathdiary at August 20, 2008 8:00 PM

Life is all about risks!
Some,.....you can calculate:like parachute jumps;bungee jumping and other semi controlled experiences........other risks can be "in the lap of the gods"'; a truck hitting your house,or a jumbo jet landing on top of you!!!!
My philosphy is that if I have made a decision....(to try 'something") the RESULTS are my problem.............whether it is a boat in trouble, or a car bogged in the Outback.......it was MY calculated decision to place me in this situation!!
WHY should I put other lives at risk because of my stupidity??

The same ethos applies to personal situations...........if a RSVP "person" causes a crash & burn.....wipe them off and start all over again.....! HOPE springs eternal.........and optimistic.Do NOT let the negatives bring you down

Posted by: kurli at August 20, 2008 7:18 PM

Esprit, I was really referring to past romances...three/six/twelve month thingies...not death. My soulmate died 24 years ago and you never get over that...but you do need to have it in a place that cannot harm any new friendships.
Musicteacher...I believe that you can get over someone by meeting someone new...if only...as Junebaby says in her posts- it is really hard to find that one person to suit us...and last the distance...wonder what the rsvp risk analysis on any of us doing that would be:))

Posted by: istj54 at August 20, 2008 7:06 PM

I recommend a look at lifebegins47 post on the Does Time Really Tell blog just closed.It is one of the last entries. A case of courage paying off. Well done and good luck life47
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at August 20, 2008 6:13 PM

take a risk...mmmmm. well I am over it....men and dating. I have taken risks, many in the last 18 months, and now I am taking a break. profile hidden.

Like you esprit...I have met men who are separated,,,still after 5 years, or separated but still sharing the marital home!!!(wtf) 2 of them.....or lying and still married....or living with the ex girlfriend...or really only want friends with benefits...or want a relationship....right now, in the first week, and what is wrong with me??? Didn't I also want a relationship within a week of meeting this guy!!!! Then have him tell me that women don't know what they want, women are not prepared to give up anything for a relationship and I am not romantic!!!! It was 1 week since I met him!!!!

This last one, is the one that has made me start to think that maybe I am happy just with myself, kids ad pets, family and friends....and a busy job, I am a project Manager and I have a huge project on at the moment, the next 2 months is lots of afterhours and weekend work...not romantic...I know...so maybe I don't need to take any more of these risks, of meeting so many men, some lovely, but still not the 'one meant for me' .

This dating stuff can really mess with your head, so I have the courage to like myself, and to take a break from dating, men and relationships....just my thoughts...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at August 20, 2008 5:45 PM

"Never overestimate your opponent , nor underestimate yourself"

I've learned that by experience.

I also remember a war photographer ( James Nachtwey) once asked how he dealt with his fear ( hes been wounded many times, caught horrible tropical diseases, seen horrific atrocities etc) and keeps working ?

His reply was that it's TOO EASY just to breakdown - and had learned to channel the fear into helping him focus on his efforts . When he feels it getting to him - he works harder at making sure that everything he does after that is as good as he can possibly make it - FOCUS your way past the fear.

The same thing happens when you sky-dive. The first 10 seconds - you freak out - then your mind kicks into self-preservation mode and you quickly check your gauges etc - just as you've been taught to - and then you wait until its time to 'pop the chute ' - the rest is a gentle float to earth.

Rally driving - now thats something different !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at August 20, 2008 5:30 PM

Courage is not the absence of fear, but the strength to face & overcome it..

Posted by: decoratress at August 20, 2008 4:54 PM

I've seen people abdicate risk altogether; they call it a 'leap of faith', when actually what they're saying is, "You know what? I take no responsibility for my actions." You can do that is relationships in a way, that's not possible in other facets of life; like work. Gets very confusing emotionally, and painful.

Posted by: capriciousimp at August 20, 2008 4:05 PM

You are not realy taking a hugh risk sky diving or bungee jumping. Less chance of getting hurt doing, than in driving to the place. The risk is in not being able to pass through your fear.

Posted by: stratostar at August 20, 2008 3:58 PM

outbackdrifter.....what a great motto!!!

istj54....."you have to be well over the past ones and have worked through the ache before you start anew"..............

If you are talking about not going directly from one relationship into another,I tend to agree,BUT BUT BUT........sometimes it can take years for people,some end up dying from heartbreak.............

People come in and out of our lives all the time.....sometimes they leave a footprint,you never forget them,maybe because of something they have said etc.

I don't like to follow rules like this for myself....I believe that maybe sometimes finding and falling for someone else helps you get over the pain or opens your eyes to the fact that there is someone suitable,wonderful etc.It's all a risk,but life is too short to deprive yourself of anything due to what is socially acceptable....and NO ONE is going to give you a prize.

Posted by: musicteacher at August 20, 2008 3:31 PM

istj54@2:36pm: "You need to be well over the past ones and have worked through the ache before you start anew."

That sounds like a nice philosophy, but it certainly isn't what people seem to practice on rsvp.

After waiting nearly ten years following my widowhood, I thought I had done the right thing and so sort of expected to meet others who had waited too (not that long!)

....the last had been dumped by his fiancee only two weeks prior....the one before that swor he had been separated for 8 years but his wife still came and went as she pleased and it was her voice on the answering machine....

This pattern is all too common here, unfortunately - and it isn't me or my choice of men so not advice along such lines are needed, thanks, I do have friends on rsvp and they do talk about exactly the same patterns...

.....revolving doors....

Posted by: espritlibrefemme at August 20, 2008 3:31 PM

No Risk - No real reward.

Only through completely letting down the walls, throwing away the bagage and taking the big leap of faith will you find "it"

Posted by: creativestuart at August 20, 2008 3:16 PM

Feal the fear and do it anyway!

Life without risk is no life. How boring.
Sure we will be knocked over, fail at things, our hearts will be broken. It makes us who we are. Hopefully stronger and wiser. But usually when you look back it was all worth it. The things achieved, the goals completed, the dreams come true.

You just have to go for stuff. Set your goals and dreams and follow your heart and passions.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at August 20, 2008 3:14 PM

If your not taking risks, your really not living life to the full, Here is a quote I have on my profile, I found somewere on the but I really like it & I think it sums up what life should be :)

My motto is.....................

Dance as though no one is watching you.

Love as though you have never been hurt before.

Sing as though no one can hear you.

Live as though heaven is on earth

Posted by: outbackdrifter at August 20, 2008 2:38 PM

Karina, with skydiving and bungee jumping the risks are quite clear and you get your result very quickly...oops!!
In matters of love and relationships, the outcome can be slow and drawn out...I do think that you need to consider past heartbreaks when entering a new affair. You need to be well over the past ones and have worked through the ache before you start anew...and, yes, the risk does make it all the more exciting.

Posted by: istj54 at August 20, 2008 2:36 PM