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problem as i see it to many are past their use by date, the hormone therapy has kicked in, the voice is getting deeper and the hair is growing on the chin,the juices no longer flow and the realisation that there will be no more babies is causing an identity crisis.

Posted by: jogalonga at July 21, 2008 11:39 PM

Oh dear. l thought it was because l had a headache. (you forgot that one joggerer).

Such derogatory posts you are making....
At the risk of another blast, why don't you try another approach...it may work and get you off here....draining..............K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 22, 2008 3:13 PM

Posted by: missrule at July 22, 2008 1:17 PM
Dare I ask ... what are slot cars?

Having to ask that at 60 something pretty much disqualifies you from any knowlegeable talk about boys and men.

Slot cars are model electric motor powered cars that run in pairs or more on indoor tracks (often on family lounge room floors) with a groove or 'slot' that a peg on the model engages with to guide it.

vegetables.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 22, 2008 2:51 PM

Joyfuldelite@ 1.32.pm
A while back some lady made a comment about a man "banging away for hours" during sex, I posted that she had a bad taste in men, or why did she put up with it.

It never went to page.

Now to try again, what your refering to (flirting) is the precursor to fore play, which is the precursor to lovemaking, which is what committed couples do. If it is done properly together then there is no "banging away for hours", Sex without any of the aforementioned, is just that gratuitous sex, most men will not find anything wrong with that if allowed, that seems to me to be one of the basic gender differences in attitude to the subject
Once again it is the womans perogative to accept or reject any advances.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 22, 2008 2:44 PM

aquisce66 July 21, 2008 11:39 PM
That angle has been discussed add infinitum here but I recap my perspective. You need to realise that men have a different sexuality to women. The womens approach is different to the man's in other words. That doesn't mean the mans' is wrong, it is perfectly male. What is wrong is females trying to feminise male responses and getting angry and confused when the men stop playing the Girl's Rules game when they get what they want. The sexes have competing interests. A clue to this is the fact women ovulate every 28 days while men can make millions of their germ cells an hour.

Grego. Every so often I make the point that what I offer up here is my take on the mechanics of sex and gender relationships and it is often hypothetical; so not from my own experience or behaviour. Things that can be observed, studied and perhaps quantified are what I choose to look at. If everything is turned into a discussion on the emotional and feeling aspects it becomes a morass of subjective opinion.
Emotion and feeling don't drive mating and partnering behaviour, a set of deeply innate, systematically evolved strategies govern that.The feeling and emotion follow and are intrinsic but usually a consequence. There has been a lot of rigourous work done on this aspect. We have a lot of choice and cultural concerns that can to a certain extent overlay the ancient behaviours but not eliminate them.
moggie18 July 22, 2008 10:56 AM.
Haha. That first paragraph would rank as the most convoluted I have seen here. Calm down. What is your point?
As for Amber and Waterbeetle suggesting that any one here is condoning or blaming women for rape, well, that is odious and a sure sign that logic and argument have failed and it is time to vilify those who have defeated you with argument and fact. It is the same sort of nasty women's tactic as accusing a loving father of interferring with his kids if a Family Court battle is not going your way. Grow up.
naturalwoman08 at July 21, 2008 11:48 PM
My point was that it is nobodies business if a farmer wants, because there is no harm done so no moral consequence. Your action eating meat results in the systemised death of these animals so on a moral culpability scale eating them is infinitely worse.
And as usual Jewels has the sense, experience and gonads to post another good slice of life.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 22, 2008 2:28 PM

Joyfuldelite @ 1.32pm - Beautiful post. Spot on!

Posted by: willow29 at July 22, 2008 2:27 PM

Hi missrule. slot cars are electric racing cars that run on a track with the speed controlled by a device. They are toys played by childred( some not to young ). Check out the local junk mail in your letterbox. But i think the comment was metaphoric.

Posted by: gordon1951 at July 22, 2008 2:12 PM

Word/s of the day?
sexual incontinent. May I offer them as my suggestion in the search for a suitable man label to equal slut. Made me laugh anyway.... Let's put it in a sentence...
"You Sir, are nothing but a sexual incontinent and I for one am appalled!"

I came across the term while checking out Kinsey references.I did see the movie about Kinsey's life and a good movie it was.

It seems that despite the production of several major reports and publications on sex and gender roles and who should do what and how and when ,over even the last 60 years -(The Kinsey Report;The Hite Report; Masters and Johnson Human Sexual Response/Inadequacy;,Alex Comforts Joy of Sex;and Australian works such as The Female Eunuch ; Damned Whores and God's Police;Steve Biddulphs Manhood and Helen Townsends Real Men; and novels such as Fear of Flying and The Women's Room and my personal favourite and autographed copy of Sister Mary Winifreds " "Youth Looks Ahead" toname a few - each generation encounters similar problems in balancing roles and behaviour in relationships(or finding of one)

The only difference over the years appears to be whatever is the current popular/ fashionable method of trying to sort things out.

The expression "everything has a season" ie is cyclical is true.

So soon we are seeing changes evolve and perhaps revolve in the cycle.
Publications and thoughts now deriding those which were only recently so new and exciting.
Publications such as "The Surrendered Wife"(which is strangely enough in the sale bin on Amazon!!) and "The Obedient Wife' and "365 Nights"(of scheduled sex)

I am back to the opinion of happiness probably does come from definition and acceptance of roles in society. However, the roles should not be as restrictive as they may have been in the past for men or women. To achieve this would involve lots of change.Women accepting and supporting other women (as Margie says) and boys having strong male role models to show them how real men behave. And society valuing the work involved in raising happy families.

The idea of women being assigned one of two roles as single females "good girls"(God's Police) or "sluts" (Damned Whores) has been around for Centuries. It reflects the difficulty both genders have with womens sexuality even in todays supposedly liberated times.(which are not really anything new )

It reflects the conflict of opposing ideas of the virginal sweet girls who are supposedly innocent and trained to repel sexual advances and pretend sex does not exist even after marriage, and 'sluts' indicating the loss of innocence and consent and welcoming and enjoyment of sex

I believe that although it is anyone's right to dress as they please, I think Marcus has expressed some truth in the idea that women are not always taking responsibility for the image they project. Rights always come with responsibility. I am not implying that rape is okay because a woman is wearing a short skirt.
I think that there is confusion about what is a sexually liberated women and how does she behave and act around men and society in general, and conflict with the idea of "I can do whatever I want" resulting in expressing the liberation in some aggressive ways including overtly sexual dressing. To be then surprised by the response of men to the signals is paradoxical, I have to agree with Marcus.
Women have to decide what it is they really want before making demands that men understand them.

Again the cycle is turning and we are perhaps maturing into the idea that women can be 'good girls' and 'sexually liberated women' and the clothes are once again calming down and "feminising." and the trend for the plastic breasts and collagen injected lips will also disappear. Next week or next year, a new idea will blossom and we will all be off down another track in the search for meaning and relationship happiness.

My take on the whole thing is that if you find the right person temperamentally everything just clicks into place very naturally . Usually that person will have lots of shared basic values and ideas in common. As for all the game playing in mid life....why? Again if you find the right person it will not be a problem.

Marcus you wrote "In our society, men are often thought of as inadequate, emotionally crippled, and potentially violent." That is a lift from an Age article that makes the point that sexism works in both directions."

Yes, these ideas do exist and it is not a construct of modern society. That the labels may be true stems from the terrible impact the Industrial Revolution had on men and boys and families and relationships in general which were forever changed when men were first isolated from the family home to 'go to work" Male children were also denied their fathers. There is lots of work being done to redress these issues.
The Patriachal society of Australia is a hard one to change.Recognition and publication of those ideas is being supportive to men and against sexism by bringing about change for the better.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at July 22, 2008 2:07 PM

As some of you have also commented .. Some posts no matter how harmless don't see to make it past the moderator .... yet ..the sometimes informed but mostly nasty post from Marcus and others gets thru Uncut. Why is that?
Why is it alright for rudeness, nastiness and childish name calling to be uncensored? (No I dont thing altering my Nick to inapppropriate Nympho was amusing)
This is supposed to be an adult blog isn't it?
Can we apply the rules to all here ..eg....

"Comments that are off topic and do not comply to the terms and conditions will not be approved."

Posted by: waternymph47 at July 22, 2008 1:57 PM

Posted by: missrule at July 22, 2008 1:01 PM

Charming. How many men missedrule? All of them? If not all, should not the post be directed at the 'men' posting these thoughts rather than at OG who didn't?

Interesting you find male mutilation with a knife amusing when it is 'humourously' proposed by a woman'? Your issues with men are only just below the surface aren't they. Would you show me please, a single post where a man specifically suggested it is acceptable for a man/group of men to rape a woman. Ridiculous assertions like that put you right up there with your 'bully boys'.

Troy

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at July 22, 2008 1:37 PM

All this talk of sex, cars and animals...LOL...
Ok, getting back to something about why we might flirt...well maybe because it is all part of the poetry of the 'dance'. Imagination is still the most beautifully erotic/errogenous zone....our hands may stroke a body but it is our minds that adore the softness of skin, the gentleness of the touch...maybe that is why we make those strange purring noises and close our eyes...to be in the moment, loving it, filling our imagination with delight....now this is what I think of as love-making, and it is light years away from what Greg so adeptly describes as 'piston sex'. Love that term, it is so beautifully descriptive...and ever so off-putting.
Flirting is an art, if done with joy and gentle expression, it can allude, which is its purpose, surely, an allusion to gentle and enticing pleasures...it is the body purring, gently and softly...
And love-making is tenderness, it is the sheer enjoyment of touch, taste, smell, sound, sight...there is a reason that the pupils open wider in love-making, the bristles on the skin rise, and the nostrily flare more, and it is not fear, it is to take in the delights of the moment....love-making.
Of course, cherishing someone in intimacy cannot be made, it grows and happens, but love can be made and that is a sensual pleasure, much enticed by imagination and much enlightened by imagination as well.
Flirting is sort of a start of love-making, rather than sex, and love-making may or my not be a start of the intimacy that is relationship building.
Disabled people are very capable of love-making, but may not be of 'piston sex'....just to show how important the mind and senses really are in all this...and if the mind is feeling used, unappreciated, or in fear (for either sexes) the freedom to interpret the senses sooo positively, to ignite the imagination so beautifully simply isn't there. That is when sex simply isn't love-making...and flirting hasn't been used or appreciated for the potential that it is.

Posted by: joyfuldelite at July 22, 2008 1:32 PM

WB, I have to agree with Troy about OG's posts. I think they read loud and clear his repugnance of rapists. He also made it clear that if a woman says no then any form of force is rape.

I dont believe there is any point of disagreement on that issue.

Troy, you are right about hiddencharmz post. There is a sort of double standard in favour of women on some matters like genital accidents. But I guess we blokes should just roll with the punch on that one as there are more than enough double standards against women on a lot of other matters. rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at July 22, 2008 1:28 PM

Dare I ask ... what are slot cars?

Posted by: missrule at July 22, 2008 1:17 PM

It's okay Troy @ 12:44,
they've removed the offending post.
Fair enough I suppose, hadn't really thought of it that way!

Posted by: amberlight58 at July 22, 2008 1:14 PM

Just googled Ideal Marriage. Was wrong about the date.

Theodore Henrik van de Velde 1873-1937 (killed in a plane crash!)

Ideal Marriage Its Physiology and Technique published 1926 and has been reprinted 46 times.

Was banned by the Catholic Church which is a good recommendation in itself.

He was born in Leewarden the same place my ex-wife came from. Now Dutch women. Beautiful beyond belief, fastidious home carers, great cooks good in the sack but ohh so very difficult. With apologies Jewels.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at July 22, 2008 1:09 PM

Posted by: grego7 at July 22, 2008 12:32 PM

Usually after each sex education talk he would say get out the slot car set. I still have not figured out that connection yet.

Grego It's the throttle control. Slow around the corners and flat out up the straight.:)

Posted by: tassiedude1 at July 22, 2008 1:05 PM

Posted by: oldergent at July 22, 2008 9:34 AM
But I agree with Marcus in a lot of things, disagree with others. If people chose to attack him he is entitled to his right of repy in like manner. The blog is moderated !

Indeed it is, OG, and selectively at that. I have tried to reply to Marcus and others a few times and have had my comments censored. Go figure, as our American cousins might say. It seems that where moderation is concerned, some members are more equal than others. I shall in fact be amazed if this response even appears.

Troy - but that style of post *is* written by men on here, far too often and too virulently and with not a shred of the humour HC showed. You go HC, ignore the schoolyard bully-boys.

Posted by: missrule at July 22, 2008 1:01 PM

Posted by: hiddencharmz at July 22, 2008 11:54 AM

OG, can you imagine the outrage that would be expressed if this style of post was written by marcus or another male. And yet plenty of women find it hilarious. I wonder if they would find it so amusing if it was suggested a knife should be taken to their nether regions ho ho ho. I find hiddencharmz tag very appropriate and....her charm is extremely well hidden. Crossed the line there.....female moderator I guess.

Again proves your point I suppose OG.

WB, I sometimes wonder if you deliberately misunderstand some posts. OG was obviously refering to the female pack mentality on these blogs not bunches of grubs raping women. Good grief.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at July 22, 2008 12:44 PM

Posted by: junebaby57 at July 22, 2008 7:43 AM
Jewels, thank you for the great post. An important thing to be derived from your post is that many indeed most women actually enjoy sex or perhaps more accurately love making.

I think Marcus is a bit more obsessed about the reciprocating act what I call piston sex rather than love making.

Two things I have always remembered from
my sex eduaction given to me by my old man. He said one day you will be very pleasantly surprised by how much women like love making and remember a woman's body is like a musical instrument, you have to learn how to play it.

Usually after each sex education talk he would say get out the slot car set. I still have not figured out that connection yet. Except perhaps that driving fast and well is like making love. Gentleness, smoothness, care and respect are all required.

Marcus, as a petrol head you must understand these things so I cannot work out why you have those attitudes to woman and sex.

I was also lucky to read as a 16 year old Van der Velde's book Ideal Marriage. Although written I think in the 1890s it was an excellent text on love making.

rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at July 22, 2008 12:32 PM

Think he might be busy, Hiddencharmz!

Posted by: amberlight58 at July 22, 2008 12:19 PM

True Kaz,
I guess we only give them an excuse to rattle off more of the same!

Posted by: amberlight58 at July 22, 2008 12:06 PM

Hiddencharmz @11.54 - Priceless!! lol

Posted by: willow29 at July 22, 2008 11:58 AM

I find that for many of the things written here, a lighter hearted attitude is warranted, at times necessary lest l let fly with a withering barrage, which l have done on occasion.

If EVERY post were written in the serious or angry vein, then all you would have is negative drivel. Nothing like a bit of lightening up to realise perspective.........K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 22, 2008 11:51 AM

Oh yes, amberlight, you're right, we should feel sorry for these poor men who can't be held responsible for their actions...who have to say "but I am at the mercy of my testosterone. My brain doesn't work well enough for me to overcome my feelings. Once I see flushed cheeks, scarlet lipstick and red boots all my cognitive powers fly out the window." They sound like one of my (male) friend's dads (the dad is an alkie and a womaniser) - when I asked how his 60year old dad was recently, he said "Dunno. Probably still following his penis around". Pretty sad when a son thinks that of his father.

You're right about the rape stats Missrule...and as for men not hunting in packs, OG, have a read of Sue Lees book summarising the research on rape and you will find that rape by gangs of men is as common as rape by one man. It's a very disturbing reality. Yours and Marcus's and Jogga's arguments that women deseve the consequences (meaning sexual assault, I take it) of how they dress add to this awful reality. My impression is that none of you are letting ignorance stand in the way of a strong opinion on the subject. Thank goodness there are men posting on the site who disagree with you lot...and of course the majority of men disagree with you lot, otherwise we'd all be in the 1950s with you.

Posted by: waterbombe at July 22, 2008 11:26 AM

The moderator does make this project very disjointed at times and the inconsistency must come down to the personality of the moderator. I get lots not appearing, sometimes 3-4 in a row until I just get over it. Then I read some of the posts by others and am astonished mine have been moderated. I even posted a response once to a blogger by cutting and pasting her words without comment or addition by myself. It was moderated....what tha? Hang on, I did finish with, Troy....perhaps that was it.

Troy (dare I )? haha

Posted by: troyohboy at July 22, 2008 11:09 AM

Posted by: oldergent at July 22, 2008 9:34 AM

Absolutely correct in every respect OG.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at July 22, 2008 11:04 AM

Marcus - Your convoluted arguments (bereft of substance) contained withing your outlandish use of semantics are nothing more than an attempt to deflect from your main argument - which on analysis - is usually either vacuous or entirely absent.
Your point of my 'gender-bashing' is hadly valid, as I mainly referred to the way women addresses each other.
Why don't you join another site - wherein you may gain a new group of females to pay you attention (which is your obvious modus operandi in life.) It's a bit tedious to find females actually taking you seriously on this site with the girly responses of 'Oh Marcus this and that. ' Oh Sorry - more gender-bashing from me.

Posted by: margie18 at July 22, 2008 10:56 AM

Posted by: jogalonga at July 21, 2008 11:39 PM

Hey Jogalonga,
Read Jewels post at 7:43 AM today, you'll see there is quite a diference between "just sex" and making love and participating in a relationship.
I would say most of us in our younger days have tried the former, it was fun for a short time.
Now we are looking for what Jewels expresses so beautifully.
Actually Oohlala, I think those "other dating sites" are exactly where Jogalonga and his partner in the demeaning of women, Marcus should be frequenting for whatever it is they are looking for!

Posted by: amberlight58 at July 22, 2008 10:30 AM

Posted by: waterbombe at July 21, 2008 3:52 PM

Waterbombe,
You forgot the second most important parts, his testicles! (guess they would be his feet!) You know those bits that produce the majority of the testosterone that makes him the unfortunate "victim" of his own raging hormones!

Posted by: amberlight58 at July 22, 2008 10:06 AM

Wow you guys have been busy, still haven't manged to read everything yet!

Marcus, regarding your post on July 18 @ 7:17 PM:
It wasn't your sex life I was interested in, it was the awful way you spoke of your GF of your 20s.
You then made it even worse by saying in this post..."The point which I made was that it was good for her because in her words, she thought I was hot, but it was the reverse for me; I found her unnattractive naked and unresponsive in the ways that please me."

Sheesh Marcus, all about you, hey?
Ever thought that the poor girl thought you were "hot" because she'd never had sex with anyone other than a selfish b*****d who thought only of his own satisfaction and gratification?
Hopefully she eventually met someone who could actually "make love" to her in an unselfish and caring way.
And don't tell me you are/were a great lover; someone who has an attitude to women like yours, could never be that great in the sack!
Technically proficient maybe, but a great "lover"?

Your comment about my "selfish issues" in the same post...."Though you probably think that your feeling for people is altruistic but it is merely reflected concern for your own inherently selfish issues.
If you are to be truly altruistic you must focus on things that you are not concerned about."
Well yes Marcus, I believe in trying to live by the idea of treating others with the same consideration as I like to be treated. If that is selfish so be it.
I just wonder how many "emotionally hurt" women you've left in your wake, in your nine year search of RSVP for what exactly?

Posted by: amberlight58 at July 22, 2008 9:51 AM

Hi all, its so nice to be back here and find out I am not alone in finding it hard out there. Everyone assumes because you are attractive that it is easy to find a partner, but it seems that I only attract the younger age group lol. Whats the matter with the older men, are they too scared of intelligent attractive women these days?

Posted by: classytoo at July 22, 2008 9:48 AM

Kaz @11.30pm
A metaphor Kaz.
But I agree with Marcus in a lot of things, disagree with others. If people chose to attack him he is entitled to his right of repy in like manner. The blog is moderated !
In order.
Jogalonga
In all my life it has been the women who dictated the course of sexual activity. I never seem to have met a weak one who just submitted to please or have a chance of a relationship. It was always "but what is in it for me" the Quid Pro Quo. Perth mentioned the women out on the town, bet there was still the bartering chips on the table somewhere.
Junebaby57@7.43 am
What hit me with your post was the absolute honesty of it. I will be interested in the reply of the "paragons of virtue" because if Marcus had posted it they would be all over him with derisory comment.
That is mainly the difference between the sexes, the males usually hunt alone, the females in packs. That is an observation not an attack.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 22, 2008 9:34 AM

Posted by: oldergent at July 21, 2008 8:11 PM

OG, on behalf of men and women everywhere may I thank you for your pioneering achievements on a Panther 75. May I also congratulate you on your courage in these actions which could have resulted in catastrophic injuries but for your utmost skill and dexterity.

You are indeed correct sir, about no talent modern couples who have never experienced the pinnacle of consumate mutual desire. rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at July 22, 2008 9:30 AM

junebaby57 at 7:43 AM: Can I have what she's been having?

Such a good post - I can't remember seeing it explained so accurately - and so beautifully. Thank you for sharing that concept so well.

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 22, 2008 9:26 AM

auntykaz at 11:13 PM: Marcus had already denied her the first two eyes, but if she was sad, I wanted her at least to have a tearduct ..... if you get my drift.

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 22, 2008 9:16 AM

Well said Jewels (7.43am) - and because of the words "want to", it includes LDR's too!

Posted by: willow29 at July 22, 2008 8:46 AM

hey Tom....and then you would wake up! I'm sure they would only have to meet you once.................lol

Posted by: iaminperth at July 22, 2008 8:38 AM

I don't know if it's just WA but a lot of the bars and cheaper restaurants in the more upmarket areas are full of women on Saturday nights, overdressed, overloud and drinking too much. They look like great gaggles of geese squawking away and checking out any bloke that walks by. Their comments and language are particularly revolting, in my humble view, and they are definitely predatory taking the view that it's now their turn to screw the guys, more gaggle screaching. Trouble is I think when the gaggle breaks up and they are a bit more sober reality hits and then the trouble starts.

Posted by: iaminperth at July 22, 2008 8:27 AM

the difference between sex and a relationship....there is a big one, and most of the men I speak to, get the difference. Now whether they are honest in thier intentions.....welll that could be a whole different blog.

Sex(if this is agreed by you both) is fun and it is flattering when it is offered. AND.....sometimes I have been guilty of a just sex relationship....because it suited at that time. (funnily enough, it helped me work out what I do want in my life now...a relationship!!!)
But sex only means, no meeting the friends or family, no going out to movies, concerts, BBQ's or weekends away. If it is sex only, you are not really interested in spending a lot of time together, no extended chats or talking all night...after all you are both there for sex!!. You are only interested in short term with this person.

Now a relationship, a whole different kettle of fish. You want to be with this person heaps, you both agree that you want to meet families, parents, you can talk all night, you go out and meet with each others friends, you stay the night with each other at your homes, you wake up with each other and want to spend the day there, you talk about doing stuff together now and also in the future, and the sex is fabulous because you have this connection/chemistry/spark.
You have stopped looking and are now happy with the person you are with, and it is mutual. (very important, has to be mutual).

See the difference now.....and there are men out there who really do want a relationship, not all men just want sex....BUT I have met a lot that do just want sex.....you have to kiss lots of toads to find your prince....so I am back to kissing again!!...have a gr8 day all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at July 22, 2008 7:43 AM

Jogalonga...maybe you are the one who needs to go out and get a life and get off those other dating sites...the women here seem to have fullfilling, interesting lives and are looking for "great" relationships, not just anyone. Yes, they do love sex but just not on the first date and they would like the guys to stick around later...get it????good:))

Posted by: oohlala1 at July 22, 2008 7:12 AM

I don't know impert .if Lara Bingle or Jennifer Hawkins wanted to sleep with me I would indeed feel very flattered.

Posted by: tallerthantom at July 22, 2008 12:51 AM

Blueyedblond,how about we blame it on the gin, it works for me......Much more palatable than the alternative, anyway................K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 21, 2008 11:53 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 21, 2008 8:14 PM
I'm not sure why someone broad minded would object to Kinsey's 60 year old report exploring the range of human sexual experience. I assume you eat meat....

what does eating animal flesh have in common with f****** animal flesh..?!

and in particular of what interest would such perverse information be useful to people on a 'dating' blog...

and i couldn't give a damn about a kinsey report's stats on the sexual proclivities of certain sexually frustrated cowboys ..and if i did.. this is not the place to discuss such matters..that is all..i do not wish to enter into anymore discussion about this matter..

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 21, 2008 11:48 PM

LAT and IAM you assume too much. Both your views extend the definition of open and narrow mindedness. I am flattered by the offer, not that they are accommodated. As joyfuldelite at July 19, 2008 7:28 PM said, “...often under the guise of "seeing if we are compatible, so we have to see if we are sexually compatible, because I am looking for a long-term partner...(until about ten minutes afterwards)…And the euphemism of "let's get together and see if we have chemistry" which seems to translate automatically into "let's get together as quickly as possible to see if I can get sex with you, so that I can move on to the next" is so prolific…”

Posted by: aqueousdb66 at July 21, 2008 11:39 PM

The objective in case you missed it , is to make love, and if that does not mean having sex than I don't know what else you call it.

problem as i see it to many are past their use by date, the hormone therapy has kicked in, the voice is getting deeper and the hair is growing on the chin,the juices no longer flow and the realisation that there will be no more babies is causing an identity crisis.

Posted by: jogalonga at July 21, 2008 11:39 PM

Err.sorry girls i have never read so much rubbish in all my life.

1.You are responsible for the way you dress and the consequences .
You are not little girls still being dressed up like dolls by their mums.
take responsibilty for yourself !!

2.Sex has been here since well, the beginning.if you don't like the idea of having sex wih a guy then I can understand why you are divorced and still single.

Mind you ,from what I have seen you should take it when you can get it.

you should be more than flattered you should seize the day for the older you get the more you will have what you wish for and that is nothing.
No realtionship .nothing!!

Seems to me most of you don't believe in the concept of having a realationship because all I am reading here is about winners and loses, seems strange that you would talk down guys who want to bed you when all you want is a relationship?

That i don't quite understand.

Posted by: jogalonga at July 21, 2008 11:33 PM

I havew been reading to catch up...and I am ...speechless, a twat and a penis with little eyes, both madly typing away in the RSVP blogs......god what is the world of blogsville coming too??? sleep well all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at July 21, 2008 11:24 PM

Oldergent, l take issue with your post of 9.27 pm tonight.....
What on earth do the penises have to show??
As in time that they are "on duty" so to speak??
Or are they a metaphor for the males??

With all due respect l do declare our WB the winner by a country mile, always in sparkling form, often willing to poke fun at herself and her gender to explain a point, yeah, she may go a tad off beam, but she aint the lone ranger there at all......
And you have to agree that the witty repartee between WB and Marcus has certainly had high entertainment value if nothing else is gleaned.....

Wat say you OG and you too Timewarp???.......
Tiewarp, third eye indeed, why waste that amount of energy when 2 will do............K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 21, 2008 11:13 PM

Well, I can't say I'm flattered if a man wants to sleep with me if fact a lot of the time the 'you gotta be kidding' is more the response. When I have been in a relationship with a person it's just a natural progression and expression of feeling. However, to be 'flattered' by someone wanting to sleep with you sounds a bit desperate and needy to me.

Posted by: iaminperth at July 21, 2008 10:55 PM

Marcus: are you drunk?
You need to stop this..it is extremely ugly and just not funny anymore.
I hate to say this...regardless of how witty,or informed you are..........you are well aware of what you are doing....you have the attention you seek but the cost is no respect from me at least anymore.I am dissappointed.
Please just "knock it off".

Posted by: musicteacher at July 21, 2008 10:36 PM

aqueousdb66. I agree with you, not that the blog has degenerated beyond belief, lordy most of the blogs do that but there are a couple of guys on here who only open their mouths to change feet. (didn't mention any names) Unfortunately some men think once they have a hard on then they will go blind unless it is relieved, regardless of the willingness of the woman. That is obviously an urban myth cause otherwise most of the male population would be lead around by seeing eye dogs.
As for my red boots kaz, they match my flushed with arousal (or is that too much gin) complection and my gorgeous red "wet look" lipstick.

Posted by: blueyedblond at July 21, 2008 10:33 PM

aqueousdb66 at July 21, 2008
"When a man wants to sleep with me I am flattered... My problem is the deceit and dishonesty they use to obtain their objective."
Righto. Sounds interesting that you are flattered to accomodate men but still have trouble with their honesty. Can you give some detail about the deceit and dishonesty these suitors engage in?
Given that a woman can veto a man's advances at any time, surely their objective must be yours too?
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 21, 2008 10:12 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at July 21, 2008 3:52 PM
I cracked up laughing at your description of Marcus, Waterbombe!

Posted by: brilliantblue at July 21, 2008 10:06 PM

laughsandtalks at 8:14 PM: What, Marcus, not even a third eye in the middle of the forehead? And I thought you were good at anatomy!

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 21, 2008 9:53 PM

People, this blog topic has degenerated beyond belief. This is Australia 2008!
I am appalled by some of the narrow-minded, antiquated opinions.
Women should not be vilified for what they wear regardless of anyone�s PERCEPTIONS. Nor should they be held accountable for the actions of men. We (men and women) are NOT the sum of our sexuality. We have minds.1
Flirting for me is fun, lighthearted and playful. When a man wants to sleep with me I am flattered not indignified. My problem is the deceit and dishonesty they use to obtain their objective. Surely this is not programmed behaviour? A.
1 ABC, Q and A

Posted by: aqueousdb66 at July 21, 2008 9:38 PM

Jay sus Marcus @ 8.14 pm in reply
to waterbombe, touche the pair of you, hard to pick between you I will leave it to the genders, but for mine you are a winner. At least the penisis have something to show for it. LOL
OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 21, 2008 9:27 PM

Kaz,
or hoot. LOL
cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 21, 2008 9:14 PM

eatsrootsandleaves:
listen to willow........."sundrenched sheets",good food,wine...but I will have a Vodka martini......and the best chocolate crackles around!!!

Posted by: musicteacher at July 21, 2008 8:31 PM

Missrule@6.09pm.
I agree with your post entirely.
The point I was trying to make is, that if the women let it go that far, why complain. At all times (except rape) they are the ones that put them selves (women) in that position.. They always have the option, if they have any doubt in the world, as to their safety, to decline, if force is used after that, it is definately rape. In my mind a hanging offence.
Blueyedblond, might be a bloke on the mods, he might have thought and misread you only had your red lace up boots on and had to take a quick grip on himself lol.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 21, 2008 8:27 PM

One thing is for sure Blueyedblond you would wear ya boots a lot in Melbourne.
l know that l do, with everything, jeans, pants, skirts. You can never be without a good boot !!.......................K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 21, 2008 8:13 PM

To all you rich johns that could afford a car, it was to us poor dudes that could only afford a single seat "Panther 75" motor bike, that had the balance, skill and desire to really be successful, with the utmost help from our most willing girls to get there.
As always with the march of time and engineering expertise, any no talent pair can achieve this now, with not a thought to us pioneers who dared great harm and injury in the pursuit of human endeavour for all humankind.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 21, 2008 8:11 PM

Sheezzzzz one minute I can't post and the next it zaps it off before I have finished.

Posted by: blueyedblond at July 21, 2008 7:28 PM

auntykaz, I love my red boots, with the pretend lace up on the outside. I don't get a chance to wear winter clothes much and being in Melbourne for a couple of weeks has givem

Posted by: blueyedblond at July 21, 2008 7:26 PM

Posted by: waterbombe at July 21, 2008 3:52 PM: "Oldergent people go to prison AFTER being tried by a jury sentenced by a judge and defended by a lawyer."

To put this into perspective, some stats (none too recent but I bet the situation hasn't changed much) from my own state: In 2001 more than 9000 sexual offences were reported to NSW police, ranging from indecent exposure to gang-rape. Only 206 out of the 9000 complaints, or 2 per cent, led to a conviction and sentencing.

Most cases don't even lead to a police investigation. Even among the small percentage of cases that make it to court, the majority fail.

So are the remaining 98 per cent (this involves women and men, so no room for gender-bashing) making it all up, putting themselves through the ordeal of reporting, statements, intimate examination and questioning? I think probably not.

Posted by: missrule at July 21, 2008 6:09 PM

Shagnwagns would have been a lot more comfortable for it than the front mudguard of an MG TD like my mate's. Needed delicate balance he said, and not too much enthusiasm in the home straight.

My first car was a 1958 Hillman Minx, bought in '61 when I was 26. Till then I rented my mum's Zephyr for 6d a mile, but it had a 1am curfew, or I was grounded for a month. And couldn't afford taxis, so it then had to be somewhere along the tram line.

I got a camping body conversion put in the Hillman before I showed it to anyone, in case I ever got lucky, but I never did, as it happened.

It was only used once at all, a couple of months after our marriage. We had to go to Upper Yarraman to help clean out Joan's gran's home, just after she died.

Took our time getting there, via a night in a Toowoomba motel, (we believed everyone should eat dessert first) and arrived at the old farm at sunset.
Joan's Maryborough aunt should have been there by then with the key, but was running a day late, and didn't arrive till midday the next day.

Couldn't afford another night in a pub (and the town was 10 miles away from the farm), so put down the back of the bench front seat and spent 3/4 of the frosty July night curled up separately and foetally in our day clothes and overcoats.

At spadgefart I put the seat back up and we sat huddled together on the passenger side, away from the dewy steering wheel. Sunrise was never so welcome!

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 21, 2008 5:40 PM

oldergent at 3:16 PM : Hi Robert. Maybe that was a case of "Stoppit I likeit!"

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 21, 2008 5:02 PM

LOL, blueyedblond! Marcus does provide us with a basis for entertainment at times. You did a great job with that last post of his! My suspicion is that Marcus himself is actually an evolutionary cul-de-sac...in reality he is just a huge penis, with two tiny legs at the bottom and a miniscule mouth, nose and eyes somewhere near the top. I see this penis sitting in front of a keyboard bending forwards and hitting the keys one stroke at a time with the head ... typing out posts that advance its own kind. Kind of like an alien invasion, intent on dominance. I think the huge typing penis generally died out about the 1950s but there are one or two left hiding in cupboards. For recreation - when not typing - they beat on drums and their own chests.

Oldergent people go to prison AFTER being tried by a jury sentenced by a judge and defended by a lawyer. Alright the last bit sounds like a recipe for disaster ...only joking, apologies to the lawyers amongst us. The thing is there are occasional mistakes in the system but in general it works...guys in prison for rape are almost all rapists. Try arguing that's not the case with the lawyers judges and juries who put them there.

Posted by: waterbombe at July 21, 2008 3:52 PM

Tallerthantom @12.37pm
I suppose it relates to the amount of libido and a lot of other factors in the engagement, but I have learnt "never say never". I have also when asked to stop had said to me,"what did you stop for?" work that one out.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 21, 2008 3:16 PM

1972 HQ Sand Man with all the trimmings. Classic. Bring back the youth!

Posted by: tassiedude1 at July 21, 2008 2:40 PM

grego7 at July 21, 2008 1:28 PM

I suggest a Volvo next time....safer.. :)

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 21, 2008 2:37 PM

And don't worry if she's a rockin we will know what to do.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at July 21, 2008 2:35 PM

Grego You need a pannel van man!
lol

Posted by: tassiedude1 at July 21, 2008 2:35 PM

laughssandtalksinappropriately attimes..

LAT....seriously.. please keep your fetishes to yourself..or post on other blogs that cater and suit your deviant interests...I.. for one do not appreciate being unexpectedly surprised and subjected to the unacceptable content of some of your posts..ofcourse..there are times when i skip your posts if i find them offensive.. ridiculous..or tasteless..but in this case..you have definitely overstepped the boundaries of decency..please consider where you are and respect that this is a 'dating' blog for HUMANS...you have obviously strayed away from the pack!... the topic.. is Too Flirty'..not..How to Flirt and F*** an Animal..please do yourself a favour..take your salacious thoughts with you to Old MacDonalds farm.. stay there..until you get it out of your system..

and really..what sort of person would want to read about... ????

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 21, 2008 2:18 PM

Greg, back when l was a girly, it was the same, so we had to make do with the old Datsun 180B, laid back bucket seats and gear stick in the middle........
Not the most comfortable but certainly "servicable". :-)

Blueeyedblond, we really must rethink our going out attire so as to appear more restrained and under control..... as well as rejigging our makeup so as to come across as more demure.....but the red boots are sooo hot!!...although mine are knee hi black boots, as red isn't really my color..........K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 21, 2008 2:13 PM

Ha Grego - A tight fit in an MGA! (no vulgarity intended).

Posted by: willow29 at July 21, 2008 2:11 PM

eatsrootsandleaves 9:02
I agree with MT- she's too young - you need more than sex and dancing. What about stimulationg conversation, appreciation of good wine and food, visual arts, pleasure in spectacular sunsets, sundrenched sheets.....pleasures that come with maturity and experience. Not that Im in any way biased.... haha.

Posted by: willow29 at July 21, 2008 2:02 PM

Posted by: grego7 at July 21, 2008 1:28 PM
Brings back some memories, grego. Not all bad ones, either!

Posted by: waterlily58 at July 21, 2008 1:39 PM

Marcus crikey I gotta get out more. "We have women walking around with their high beams on for hours at a time( false nips are a reality) cheeks colored to mimic the flush of arousal, now 'wet look' red lipsticks doing their best to mimic you know what and cleverly made up eyes to say 'come hither"."
pssst... I didn't think anyone saw me when I was out hithering and tithering. U didn't mention my new red boots.

Posted by: blueyedblond at July 21, 2008 1:35 PM

Posted by: willow29 at July 18, 2008 1:25 PM

Remember that song by Meatloaf "Paradise by the Dashboard Light"?

Yes indeed I do. My first car was an MGA sports and as neither my gf or myself had our own pad and parents being what they were in those days the MGA was our only place for a bit of the old rumpey pumpey.

This was true consensual sex as controlled and delicate manouvering was required to achieve our goals. The slightest miscalculation by either party could result in disaster.

Tried to get my youth back a few weeks ago in a Falcon but we both got stuck and when I pulled the door lever I fell out of the car with my pants around my ankles. My partner burst into hysterical fits of laughter.

Lesson learnt. That which one can accomplish at 18 cannot be repeated at 57.

It's still a great song though.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at July 21, 2008 1:28 PM

Depends on the size of the package, Marcus, re your post of 12.13 today.....

oohhh hypocrytical you say??
No, just employing some visual imagery that we women always look for..... after all thats what we do right??

Conniption, no just a bee in my bonnet re the wording of some things that you say.....tacky is the word that springs to mind, but no doubt you will say so what??

Oldergent the voice of wisdom there.......K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 21, 2008 1:10 PM

Posted by: margie18 at July 20, 2008 5:41 PM

BTW margie, the word wizard is a relatively recent addition to the language. Men as well as women were called witches most especially during the dark ages when many more men were victims of the inquisistion than women....the bloody witches haha.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at July 21, 2008 12:46 PM

ogre if there are men in prison they have no one to blame but themselves.Every one has the right to change their mind and say no.These guys should respect that right and walk away.....and keep walking and don't look back.

Posted by: tallerthantom at July 21, 2008 12:37 PM

waternymph47 July 21, 2008 11:49 AM
Thanks anyway but wombat posted the Olive Riley thing. The mention of Sunday best made me think more along the lines of the tyranny that religion places on some peoples lives, particularly womens.

You did say blah blah... "I don't think a change of place will mean a change in male attitude..." If that is not a direct statement of your disapproval of male attitudes I don't know what might be. It is what I picked up on. In the west there is a female-centric zeitgeist operating in many situations which puts a strong modifier on male public behaviours.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 21, 2008 12:26 PM

joyfuldelite July 20, 2008 10:06 PMjoyfuldelite at July 20, 2008 10:06 PM
Grab a granny eh? That moniker with lite on the end makes you sound like a low fat icecream.
You raise some interesting points. As far as female freedom to dress goes no worries. But with that power comes responsibility and a requirement for honesty. Crikey, these days with some of the clobber, or lack of it, the young and not so young sheilas wear there needs to be an extension of truth in advertising laws. We have women walking around with their high beams on for hours at a time( false nips are a reality) cheeks colored to mimic the flush of arousal, now 'wet look' red lipsticks doing their best to mimic you know what and cleverly made up eyes to say 'come hither'.
So women are wandering the streets and clubs and TV screens mimicking the full state of sexual arousal.
If a man tries to display the full state of sexual arousal he is likely to be thrown out/denied entry viewed with great suspicion or airbrushed.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 21, 2008 12:13 PM

Joyfuldelite@9.50pm.
This is what a number of us males have been rubbished for in the past blogs. Males understand and recognise the strength and weaknesses of each other which leads to a sense of order in their heirachal equality status
It seems to me that the females are still working on that one.

Also at, 10.06pm.
you are wrong, and there are men in prison to prove it. A woman can let a man go too far, before saying no. Most men are able to cease at a certain stage of tease, and women should recognise that, as to the dress code, up to the wearer, but it is a fact that certain modes of dress let the observer form their own opinion of the wearer, which is their right too.
Margie18@10.33pm Hi,
no need to say "promiscuous male" I think it is a recognised fact that a majority are, despite the squeals that will come for some males, I did say "majority" fellas.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at July 21, 2008 12:06 PM

Thanks Marcus for the Olive Riley verse.. brought back memories of wash days when I was a child and also doing similar chores.
However I really think you got the wrong end of the stick on my comment re "attitude change". Go back and re read what I wrote as I clearly stated that it was, "my husbands change of attitude once we moved back to his home territory" .. not all men needing an attitude change.
Some times I think you just look for nastiness where there is none.! Besides ,.. I
believe the "patronising and chauvinistic" behaviour was his not mine.

waternympho47 July 20, 2008 4:57 PM
Good on you nympho. How patronising and chauvinistic. Males do not all need a change in 'attitude'; male behaviour and sexuality is not abberant, just male. It is female responses to our maleness that sometimes need a rethink and one reason why some aspects of feminism have been counterproductive.Cheers Marcus)

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 20, 2008 5:53 PM

Posted by: waternymph47 at July 21, 2008 11:49 AM

eatsrootsandleaves at 9:02 AM: If I were you, I'd be inclined to suspect that you'd met your match in profile-composition.

Ask for her email. She may actually live 3 blocks away. And when you are in email communication, warn her against coffee tables, especially in stiletto heels.

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 21, 2008 11:35 AM

margie18 July 20, 2008 10:33 PM
Margie, if women understand a word to have a certain meaning and want to apply it reasonably accurately, so be it. So what if it is derogatory? What is wrong with a bit of derogation if it is accurate? Ah hah. It threatens the sisterhood. Men have a huge range of gender specific insults they apply to themselves, but the brothers organise vertically, rather than the typical horizontal female systems
Your point in the 1st post really is a bit of bloke bashing and an objection, based on a fundamental misunderstanding of gender differences, and poorly argued, non scientific, Germy perspective, that there doesn't appear to be a slut word that sticks to men. Why should there be? From the point of view of our (male) evolutionary imperative to spread our genes, it is desirable, sensible, programmed behaviour.

Once again a reliance on the subjective, relative type of argument, with no allowance of male female differences badly lets feminism down.

Kaz, conniption. Now that Eastlink has been opened you peninsularites should be able to get more contact with the rest of the world and broaden your perspectives. Some women are trying to reclaim the C word as a useful descriptor.
Cheers MarcusSo

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 21, 2008 11:34 AM

Posted by: blueyedblond at July 21, 2008 10:44 AM

LOL

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at July 21, 2008 11:29 AM

ERAL... I disagree with musicteacher. Go for it.. she obviously has a lot in common with you, ask her if her dad would like to email me!!!!

Posted by: blueyedblond at July 21, 2008 10:44 AM

"One more thing to consider...
There are two statements I think you will find that most men believe to be true and women will question.
"Every woman has exactally the love life that she wants"
and a more general one along the lines of what we have been saying...
"At the START of a relationship the woman has all the power"
Posted by: creativestuart at July 17, 2008 12:50 PM"

Stuart - just TAKE some of the power. You just have to be prepared to lose the woman but once you've conquered that hurdle, the world (or at least the relationship) is your oyster. It's not a game ..... but it is.

Posted by: woodnwine at July 21, 2008 10:29 AM

musicteacher @ 9.18 am - great reply. I like your style :)

Posted by: malsie at July 21, 2008 9:33 AM

eatsrootsandleaves:
Touche!!!!!!!

Tell her she is far too young and that you would prefer the experience of an older woman.

R x

Posted by: musicteacher at July 21, 2008 9:18 AM

OOOH "DOING!"

Just got a kiss from a 29 year old female ... fits profile except i think she just wants me for sex !

Should I :
(a) reply to the kiss and tell her she fits the profile ( but shes up int the NT (ffs))
(b) should I be more courteous and send her an e-mail saying I know she just wants a ..........?
(c) Waste my time at all because obviously she has read my profile and thinks I am easy pickings?

Guys
...she likes cars (Shelby GT Mustang), outdoor sex, cooking and LOVES "dancing topless on the coffee table".... looking for something casual with a down to earth guy...

I have to laugh; but what would you do ?

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at July 21, 2008 9:02 AM

Posted by: joyfuldelite at July 20, 2008 10:06 PM

Well said!

Posted by: brilliantblue at July 20, 2008 11:12 PM

Waterbombe,

Your comment at 9.29 gave me a good laugh but now I've got a shocking mental image in my head that I just can't shake!

Marcus, I can't dispute the factuality of your animal stats, but I can question your idea of what's appropriate to discuss in a public forum. Even for you, our resident pot stirrer, this topic is, or should be, off limits.

Posted by: victoriadownunder at July 20, 2008 11:11 PM

Marcus, I think that your loquaciousness simply and conveniently skirted the issue raised ,which was sexually derogatory comments being attributed to women.

I noted you used the phrase 'promiscuous female'. Would you have used 'promiscuous male'?

I rest my case.

Posted by: margie18 at July 20, 2008 10:33 PM

bomberboomer@3:36pm:
"Makes one wonder about the motives of women when they dress sexually,then they complain about men"
OK, got your film clip bit but generally...women have been held down/captive in society for centuries for the thinking this infers.....even to the point of legal court submissions that argue "she wore a short skirt/tight jumper (how short is short, how tight is tight?) was obviously flirting (who judges this, and that it is bad?), so she was asking for sexual advances/sexual acts/rape"...yes, unfortunately those very ideas are behind statements like this, and debates on flirting...what about male flirting, does that make them open to being drugged, bashed, run out of town because they were "asking for it"?
This sort of attitude, and these sorts of statements, were debated and exposed as dangerous as far back as the 1960s, like 40 years ago!
Which century, and which counrty are we living in?
Freedom is about freedom of dress and actions as well as freedom from defamation of character....but tell that to any woman who ends up in a rape situation and tries to deal with societal assumptions regarding blame.
And a man or a woman has a right to say "No", any time, no matter how "far' he or she has already gone.
A 'free' society has fought wars for freedom of choice.
I wonder how some of the expressed positions on this blog, one asking the rather provocative question 'Too Flirty?' (like who judges the 'too' in that?) would be viewed in some more openly vocal situations, such as a college debate, or similar.
What do we want the young girls entering adolescent to think about themselves in our society???? I hope my 9 year old granddaughter will recognise her freedom of expression in dress as a right of her womanhood when she blossoms into adolescence.
How archaic are some of the comments being made on here?

Posted by: joyfuldelite at July 20, 2008 10:06 PM

Marcus, you really do stretch and overstep the mark at times.
Slut is a disgusting word, and to utter it as has been done here is nothing short of poor form and even worse, degrading to oneself.
It also shows a total lack of respect for women in general.
Please have some amount of decorum ladies and gents, we are supposed to be adults, educated and theoretically able to discuss things in a relatively mature way......... this is not one of the better moments in blogvilledom.................K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 20, 2008 9:59 PM

Margie18@5:41pm:
Absolutely!!!!
Language creates society, and has deep psychological impact - even if it is just to break relationships.
Women and men are human beings......words to defile them are atrocious..and why women defile women when men don't go around defiling men is beyond me.
Language is power...
Thanks for the posting Margie18. Just checked your profile out and you are one funky lady!

Posted by: joyfuldelite at July 20, 2008 9:50 PM

Musicteacher, a lot of women have relationships with guys 10 years younger..it doesn't count as a significant age difference. Go for it...if he was 55 you wouldn't think twice. I had a 2-year relationship with a guy who was ten years younger. It was just a normal, ordinary relationship, no different to any other, by which I mean the age gap didn't matter. Your ages are the least of your worries...there will be many other more important areas of life, such as your values, politics, interests etc, to check out .

Posted by: waterbombe at July 20, 2008 9:47 PM

musicteacher - he could also be someone who has no interest whatsoever in having kids ever (I've known a fair few men and women who have felt that way) and who actually was interested in you for you, and that something in your profile resonated with him, with nothing to do with sex or anything else. But I agree with you absolutely, that you have to do what feels appropriate for you and ultimately you know best.

Posted by: malsie at July 20, 2008 9:45 PM

margie18 July 20, 2008 5:41 PM
Welcome to the sand pit Margie...

I'ts no wonder so many women and men are angry about Germaine too when she has inculcated soft female brains with the idea that certain words are male projections of sexual guilt. She has been mentioned a few times here but not yet contributed at least not in person; a lot of her outmoded rubbish visits in spirit though. Modern feminists are telling women to embrace their inner slut and use their pussy power. Have a look at Maureen Dowd to get away from the archaic progenitor femmos.
Slut is perjorative but still a useful and apt word that rightly has no male equivalent because blokes don't get pregnant. It's force and use come from the fact that a promiscuous female could end up with a child but no man to support her. This places a big burden on family and others around and was rightly seen as reckless behaviour deserving sanction and recognising that the woman can always veto the man (except in rape perhaps).
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 20, 2008 9:41 PM

...Thanks Maise and bluey......

he will be along soon....i have given him directions to the site...........

Naturalwoman re: European natural flirts.....they can be extremely "charming"experts in the art of seduction.

Posted by: musicteacher at July 20, 2008 9:40 PM

waternymph47 (at July 20, 2008 4:57 PM), C'mon, get more flirty and send some kisses! It's the best way to find someone you like. From your posts I would say you are a very perceptive woman, and a decent guy would be very glad you found him.

Tassiedude, I do like reading your posts, and you don't seem to be scared to fall in love either, from what you said earlier. You have been illuminatingly honest on here...it was really refreshing to read a man writing about his feelings (instead of about his penis). Lookingformissright2, I think you are another bloke who writes as if a person not a penis is pressing the keys ...great!!!

Posted by: waterbombe at July 20, 2008 9:29 PM

oh Marcus...you shock even me...."animal stimulation to the point of orgasm".............

maybe I should add the following to my profile......."If you have been with a farm animal,don't send me a kiss".

Maybe we will have to get to the point where we fill out a form before dating.........

"on a scale of 1 to ten.........?" etc.

Actually,they do this type of thing on dating sites.........a site for Professionals only.

$2000 anyone? if I had a spare $2000 lying around....this is where I would be.

Posted by: musicteacher at July 20, 2008 9:28 PM

musicteacher at July 20, 2008 3:55 PM . 11 years really isn't all that much of an age difference. If what he has written about himself interests you then reply in the positive. You profile interested him, reply that you are looking forward to his email and see if he is serious. If he was 11 years older would you have this dilema. Go for it he may well be just what you are looking for and need.

Posted by: blueyedblond at July 20, 2008 8:43 PM

Maisie....you are a sweety and thanks for your advice.

I sent him an e-mail saying thanks but that I am probably a little too old for him.I also recommend he look at the blogs to try ang get to know me better.

I don't believe age matters so much...Younger men though may eventually want to have children....I have had mine.This was the problem with the last relationship I had...8 years younger.

There are men who want to be with older women for various reasons....and I am not talking about money here.It has more to do with sex and getting a better grip on what women are like.

Be true to yourself........no one is going to give you a prize for doing what is socially acceptable.

Posted by: musicteacher at July 20, 2008 7:46 PM

waternymph47 at July 20, 2008 4:57 PM

WN...
er..that was my pathetic attempt at humour..difficult to 'get' a persons humour/conversation at times in blogland..nuances get Lost in Translation..sorry..sometimes I just run with my mad muse..

but I will say..europeans..of the warmer climate variety..hehe..uneducated about the 'cooler' Nordic types..seem to be natural flirts..it's almost innate..without going into specific details I have polish/russian/swedish/german ancestry (so far) and grew up predominantly with poles..russians..plus a heady mix of other gregarious/melancholic cultures..but..no matter what the circumstances..on the surface anyway..they knew how to flirt and joke in the most charming way..and one could always have the deepest laughs..nw :)

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 7:39 PM

So that is why we wear lippy then Marcus.....but what if red doesn't suit, and you are more a coral or browny color, or even prefer the natural lip gloss with no color??.....
Booger, l thought l wore it to moisturise me lips...............K

Posted by: auntykaz at July 20, 2008 6:58 PM

Apologies for the frequency of the same post..am experiencing technical problems with posting/computer...editors..please take note :( ..I don't really like repeating myself..hehe :)

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 6:02 PM

eatsrootsandleaves at July 20, 2008 5:20 PM

oh wau..how beautiful..and sad..yes..all over..too soon..too soon..aah..and the poem..

reading her blog..oh..it has brought such tears to my eyes..I will go back to it later..

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 5:54 PM

waternympho47 July 20, 2008 4:57 PM
Good on you nympho. How patronising and chauvinistic. Males do not all need a change in 'attitude'; male behaviour and sexuality is not abberant, just male. It is female responses to our maleness that sometimes need a rethink and one reason why some aspects of feminism have been counterproductive.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 20, 2008 5:53 PM

Whule perusing these blogs, I have been highly entertained by the obviously well-educated and intelligent bloggers' contributions.
However, I am alarmed at the use of certain words such as 'trashy' and slutty' referring to females.
No wonder Germaine is so angry - and rightly so.
Often women are their own worst enemies, as they are the ones who contribute these words.
It is great to have a degree, but has it ever entered that organ which poses as an excuse for a brain that there are no such words pertaining to men? eg slut, whore etc.

It doesn't take too much nous to know that this is a psychological projection of sexual guilt aimed fair and squarely at women.

I thought we had come a long way since the Witch hunts - not according to some contributors.

BTW - there were no 'wizard' hunts, which - like many words in the English Dictionary - takes on a contrasting congratulatory vein, when applied to males.

Please all, think about the words you are using : and how biased the English language is towards women.

A woman who uses slut, whore etc against her own species is not educated in the true sense of the word, no matter how many degrees she has.

Posted by: margie18 at July 20, 2008 5:41 PM

iaminperth at July 20, 2008 3:42 PM

How's the 'piano' NW still playing happily I hope ?

LOL..needs a bit of 'tuning'..not of the 'ivory' variety but the grease and oil change variety..lol..oh my G.. you've got me going again..'hee hee hee har har..

you know Perth... that photo was relegated to the gallery..rsvp's decision!.. :(

by the way..how's the weather and the latest on the gas situation?..fereeezing here..nw :)

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 5:35 PM

musicteacher @ 3.55 pm

If I was attracted to the sound/look of him, I would reply positively and get to learn a little more, and certainly wouldn't assume he's only interested in one thing. I wouldn't necessarily regard him as too young either. But that's just me - if you do, then I suppose the "doesn't fit profile" is appropriate.

Posted by: malsie at July 20, 2008 5:32 PM

thelynathdiary at July 20, 2008 3:16 PM
Thank you for your thoughts Chris but I am presently producing sufficient seed of my own and generally able to arrange some stimulation. BTW that competition sounds very Lake Bolac. I was once offered as a prize in the car club raffle. 1st prize was a night with me, 2nd was a weekend with me. Hmm.
Seeing it is sunday and you suggested the topic I will offer some more on animals and semen. In Alfred Kinsey's landmark survey of American men 26 to 28 percent of college age rural males admitted having "some animal experience to the point of orgasm" In some farm communities "where social restraints on this matter are less stringent the figure jumps to 65%"
auntykaz July 20, 2008 2:51 PM
Kaz dear. Womens lips as a ratio of head size are larger than men's but the labia mimicry aspect comes from the thousands of years old habit of painting them red, one most urban blokes I know don't follow.
musicteacherJuly 20, 2008 3:32 PM
I agree. Some of these women are bloody disgusting and insensitive too the way they tease the poor blokes. Women are supposed to be compassionate. There should be a national charity bonk day so girls can truly demonstrate they are they loving, caring ones.
Random? That has been argot for ages and used by both sexes.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 20, 2008 5:31 PM

iaminperth at July 20, 2008 3:42 PM

How's the 'piano' NW still playing happily I hope ?

LOL..needs a bit of 'tuning'..not of the 'ivory' variety but the grease and oil change variety..lol..oh my G.. you've got me going again..'hee hee hee har har..

you know Perth...that little episode caused my photo to be relegated to the gallery..rsvp's decision!.. :(

how's the weather and the latest on the gas situation?..fereezing here..

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 5:30 PM

iaminperth at July 20, 2008 3:42 PM

How's the 'piano' NW still playing happily I hope ?

LOL..needs a bit of 'tuning'..not of the 'ivory' variety but the grease and oil change variety..lol..oh my G.. you've got me going again..'hee hee hee har har..

you know Perth...that little episode caused my photo to be relegated to the gallery..rsvp's decision!.. :(

how's the weather and the latest on the gas situation?..fereezing here..

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 5:30 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 4:03 PM

Some things change, and others stay the same, but its ALL over and done with, way too soon...

From http://worldsoldestblogger.blogspot.com/

FOR OLIVE RILEY
The World's Oldest Blogger

Sometimes, I hear the young complain of all they have to do.
But I am sure that their complaints should really be quite few.
Take Washing Day, for instance, all they do is press a knob,
And then machines go whirling round and quickly do the job.

They throw in powder, maybe bleach, and softener as well,
And dirty clothes are whirled about, then spun around, pell-mell.
And then, to follow up, I hear, they set the dryer spinning,
They've hardly raised a finger to the end from the beginning.

But things were very different in the days of long ago,
When Olive Riley's mother washed her clothes as white as snow.
And Olive well-remembers that, when it was Washing Day,
Daughters had to do their bit; there was no time for play.

First Olive looked for firewood, which was sometimes hard to find,
She had to hunt for broken twigs or sticks of any kind.
Sometimes she found a fruit-box that was thrown down on the floor.
She chopped it with a tomahawk, though it made her fingers sore.

After filling up the copper, her Mum would light the fire,
And the water would start heating, as the flames grew ever higher.
Then she threw in some soap chips, followed by Reckitt's Blue,
(That was a clever little bag that made things look like new.)

Next she got the Sunlight Soap to scrub at all the stains,
And, sometimes, if she scrubbed too hard, there were blisters for her pains.
The corrugated board was rough, her hands were roughened too,
Ruined by years of scrubbing, but what else was there to do?

Then, she threw in the dirty clothes, and gave them all a stir.
The steam rose up in clouds and very nearly smothered her.
She was splashed by boiling water, and the bubbles stung her eyes.
And a line of snowy washing was to be her only prize!

Yet, now, would come the starching, of the collar and the cuff,
And, however hard she starched them, it was never quite enough.
For Father must look perfect when in his Sunday Best,
He mustn't look inferior, measured against the rest.

At last, the clothes were clean and rinsed and the fire had lost its heat.
Mother was quite exhausted, after so long on her feet.
But the hardest job was yet to come, an energetic trick,
For she had to get the clothes out with a hefty copper-stick!

Imagine sheets all water-logged and weighing half a ton!
Her back was nearly broken by the time that job was done.
A soggy mass lay, wetly, in a tub, somewhere nearby.
The washing was as clean as clean, but not the least bit dry.

Now Olive had a job to do, though she was scarcely grown,
For Mother couldn't mangle all the washing on her own.
Between the wooden rollers Mother fed the dripping clothes,
While Olive turned the handle, standing on tippy-toes.

The mangle squeezed the water, it came quickly pouring out,
But the washing was still wet and heavy, that I do not doubt.
But Olive and her Mother had to drag it to the trees,
Where a line was stretched, so washing could be dried off in the breeze.

When all was safely pegged, they stood and eyed the white perfection.
But a flock of noisy magpies swooped and swirled in their direction!
They aimed for Mother's washing, causing splish and splash and stain!
'Oh well' said Olive's mother, we must do it all again!'

( by Brenda Bryant http://rinklyrimes.blogspot.com/)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at July 20, 2008 5:20 PM

The 'piano' was just a tongue in cheek comment to NW actually. sorry about the misunderstanding there.

Posted by: iaminperth at July 20, 2008 5:07 PM

I don't think they are uncomfortable with their choice but they certainly look uncomfortable trying to get in and out the thing, lol.

Posted by: iaminperth at July 20, 2008 5:06 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 12:26 PM
I don't think a change of place will mean a change in male attitude as I've been married to and American and lived in America and Canada .. and later married a Swiss man and lived in Switzerland for 8 years. The only attitude change I noted was that once they got me on home territtory they stopped being on their best behaviour and relaxed back to the b*****s they really were underneath it all. Both turned out to be cheats too in the end.
As for flirting, I dont remember having done anywhere near as much flirting as they did but I was younger slimmer and possibly more attractive then. Funnily enough I've always been inclined to let the man make the first move so for me to flirt with a man , it would take a lot of encouragement .. it even takes a 'very good day' for me to be brave enough to send a kiss to someone.

Posted by: waternymph47 at July 20, 2008 4:57 PM

The piano is fine,and so is my playing..preparing for a concert..........what have you been doing?

Posted by: musicteacher at July 20, 2008 4:50 PM

eatsrootsandleaves at July 20, 2008 3:09 PM

lovely post ERL..as bloggers would be interesting to make a pact..that we re-cybernite on new years day every 5..2.? years...and see where our cliche 'journey' has led us..unless we're still here of course.. schlepping away at the keyboard with our arthritic fingers.. hehe..

some-one should make a movie about bloggers.. so much potential for story lines..especially this blog hehe....some..beautiful..sad..bad..tragic..butnever boring mind blogging stories about the characters and their lives..

Marty-cus Wilde..for Leading Man..??

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 4:43 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at July 20, 2008 2:50 PM
I can only hope the habit of nit picking the way women dress and look ,...is not as prevalent as you like to think.

I doubt if they all dress that way with your friend in mind.How very nasty and small minded. I see some huge errors in dress on men and women(probably made a few of my own over the years .. but I'm not the fashion police and even tho sadly not all people can dress to their best .. it's their choice.
As for the "overwieght middle aged trying to squash themselves into little sports cars or coupes" I say good luck to them . I'd be driving something sporty and snazzy if I could afford it, and what makes you think they are uncomfortable with their choice??.

" Women apparently who flirt and hang all over men are named 'randoms', they are perceived to be there to be picked up and if you don't score so what, there are always a few others just as desperate."
Randoms ?? Fortunately never heard of such a misnomer!

Posted by: waternymph47 at July 20, 2008 4:35 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at July 20, 2008 2:30 PM

Marcus,
With all your manly ability to spread seed about libidinously - i note you don't have any children of your own ...

Let me guess - you've risen above the rest of us primates ...

BTW - "Cocky funny "- only works on strippers !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at July 20, 2008 4:05 PM

eatsrootsandleaves at July 20, 2008 3:09 PM

oh..bless her.. dear lady

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 4:03 PM

OOOH " DING"

Just got a kiss from a 34 year old man...fits profile except he is toooooooo young.

Should I:

(a) reply to his kiss and tell him he does not fit the profile

(b) should I be more courteous and send him an e-mail saying I know he just wants a ..........?

(c) Waste my time at all because obviously he has read my profile and thinks I am easy pickings?

Girls....11 years younger,spiritual,well educated,interested in philosophical doctrine and Ancient History AND loves Classical Music.....looking for an educated woman who isstrong but kind hearted,will be his soul mate.

What would you do?

Posted by: musicteacher at July 20, 2008 3:55 PM

joyfuldelite at 2:58 PM: I think you said the bloke's business was tattooing.

Does that prove that he had any on himself, rather than just many posters of standard designs, all over the walls of his surgery? The most successful drug dealers only sell the stuff - don't use it themselves.

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 20, 2008 3:47 PM

Oh sorry "some older women who are supposedly so highly educated and successful". How's the 'piano' NW still playing happily I hope ?

Posted by: iaminperth at July 20, 2008 3:42 PM

I watched a movie last night called.

"A quite Man"

Sexy secretary squatting on floor with short skirt, blouse unbuttoned and breasts revealled.
Quiet man walks in , looks, can't helps but notice,and then cops a mouthful for being a pervert, a stalker a harrasser.

Seems to me the woman was the provoker and was trying to flirt with someone , but not this guy.

Makes one wonder about the motives of women when they dress sexually,then they complain about men.

Posted by: bomberboomer at July 20, 2008 3:36 PM

oh Kaz! July 20, 2008 2:51 PM

Everyone knows it is the nose or feet.....

Posted by: thelynathdiary at July 20, 2008 3:36 PM

joyfuldelite at 12:30 PM: Or else he's blocked only you. Give his name to one of the sisters - perhaps kurli, and get her to look.

If he's invisible to you but not to her, he's only blocked you, and is still trolling for all the other fish.

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 20, 2008 3:32 PM

......."a number of women on this site".........."older women who are supposedly so highly educated and successful"

Do you have to be a psychologist to see this as a "dig?"....

This is not a generalisation.A generalisation would have started with the word........"Some".

Why don't we discuss this here.....
what does highly educated and successful have to do with?

Marcus............I agree with the type of women that you are talking about and I will make a generalisation here...the women you speak of in MY opinion have no taste....they can be referred to as trashy,especially in their appearance.

Posted by: musicteacher at July 20, 2008 3:32 PM

Phew, thanks NW!

Posted by: iaminperth at July 20, 2008 2:26 PM

you're welcome Perth.. :) nw

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 3:25 PM

and btw Marcus, if that last post of mine has gone up I did not mean to turn you on using those flirty seed references.....xxx

Posted by: thelynathdiary at July 20, 2008 3:17 PM

Marcus, awhile back I posted about a competition that had your name on it.Can't remember which blog now. For unknown reason the post was "edited" leaving only two lines which made absolutely no sense.
There was a choice of 2 things as 1st Prize and I think I wanted to know which one you would take....now I think I know for sure...

The prize?

$2500 cash or semen to the value
of $3300 and a year's membership (to a well known agricultural society)

Unfortunately I think the competition is closed now but,,, what you could have done with all that seed!

Posted by: thelynathdiary at July 20, 2008 3:16 PM

joyfuldelite at July 20, 2008 12:56 PM
I look widely,

oh..not by rsvping..I meant they actually moved overseas and pursued professional careers..with only one thing on their minds..to snare a good catch..and then returned home with their 'souvenir'..heehee..too calculating for me..but..the rest is her/his tory..

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at July 20, 2008 3:14 PM

Olive Riley was living proof you can never be too old to learn a new technology. This Australian woman only started to blog in February 2007 but she managed more than 70 entries and shared her remarkable outlook on life from the vantage point of someone who lived through the entire tumultuous 20th century. She was born in Broken Hill on 20 October 1899 and died peacefully on July 12, 2008 - aged 108!

What a lady! Her legacy is to encourage us all to keep our minds alert and to share our experiences through blogging.

RIP Olive "worldsoldestblogger"

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at July 20, 2008 3:09 PM

oh yar Tom..up to a point..I'm not necessarily agree-ing with them..(just trying to support them)..each to their own paradigm..whether they're making the right choices or not..??

I remember friends who only went for their 'type' of men..the 's