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Are there advantages to being beautiful?

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Don't hate yourself for wanting to be beautiful. Good-looking people get special treatment from strangers, employers and even their own mothers. The rest of us curse the advantages of beauty because we can never claim membership in the knockout club. Or can we? Can we trust our own self-appraisal, or the reassurances of friends and family? Are we subjected to the cool judgment of strangers to satisfy our curiosity about our appearance? Do you judge other people or favorite them based on their appearances?

Posted by Karina June 20, 2008 3:43 PM

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Thanks Gems. You might not have thought so if I'd posted the whole poem, I self-censored and left the first few verses off.

I think you are right about destroying the dream. We are led to believe that relationships are this 'Happy Ever After' fairytale, and our expectations become so high that they can never be lived up to. While I hate to say "Lower your expectations and you are less likely to be disappointed", it might help us put in the hard yards to make the less than perfect relationship, (and the vast majority are) work for the long term.

Posted by: sunriselad at July 4, 2008 2:15 PM

Posted by: sunriselad at July 4, 2008 8:26 AM
What a beautiful piece. So sweet but yet seems so sad.
However in reality I sometimes think that meeting someone for the long run might just end up destroying the dream.
Maybe the dream is sweeter than the reality.
Enjoy it while it last methinks.

Posted by: gemsnbling at July 4, 2008 11:17 AM

I shy away from beautiful strangers
Behind their thin veneer lie barely hidden dangers
When one speaks to me I know its sympathy or slumming
The pity on their faces is quite unbecoming

I patiently wait for just one word of recognition
The slightest hint of a smile is my highest ambition
A touch on my arm is like an arrow from cupid
Till reality hits, I�m just pathetic and stupid

I look at peoples faces and no-one looks back
Too busy with their lives, they couldn�t give jack
Couldn�t care less about me or my thoughts
Too busy with work, with spectator sports

Of course, I�m not really alone, but you don�t see
There are thousands upon thousands of people like me
Reality lives next door, down the street
Reality is that person you are too busy too meet

I am living a life right here in my mind
Full of wonder and joy, a very special find
That no-one will know of, no one will see
If no-one takes the time to get to know me

Posted by: sunriselad at July 4, 2008 8:26 AM

On the Charles Wooley radio show this morning,they revealed that the sexiest part of a person - and the part that keeps the relationship going - is "the words that they speak".

Posted by: willow29 at July 2, 2008 11:32 AM

musicteacher at July 1, 2008 12:15 PM: What a girl! You are so right in everything you say, both here and in your profile. Keep contributing. Please.

And it's a shame you have to look in the June archive to find this not-yet-closed BEAUTIFUL blog.

Posted by: timewarp1 at July 2, 2008 9:58 AM

Definately,and disadvantages..but the advantages outway the disadvantages.
I think a lot of us intitially look at a persons appearance,including myself.however my mind is made up only after hearing a persons voice and listening to what that person has to say.In the end,if a person interests me,I really don't care what they look like.As for a woman being beautiful,it can make both men and women despise you,and make the assumption that you are conceited,already "taken",have it easy etc.Worse still,your intelligence may be overlooked.

Posted by: musicteacher at July 1, 2008 12:15 PM

Yes, I do...Mekyonewithecrookback...the Lexus looks like the old Daewoo Cielo:))))))

Posted by: istj54 at July 1, 2008 11:29 AM

a girlfriend of mine is forever suggesting the races as a place to meet meet...methinks to meet gamblers:))

Posted by: istj54 at June 29, 2008 4:36 PM ...I have not taken up this suggestion...but for iaminperth and murkyman to suggest that I am in any way desperate is preposterous...and ludicrous...I am NOT impressed by men with money, as it usually is all they have on offer...and I saw red plates on a Mazda6 the other day...LOL at that one.

Posted by: istj54 at July 1, 2008 9:53 AM

Posted by: cautious08 at June 30, 2008 11:24 PM

cautious, i can relate to your predicament. unwanted attention is not flattering at all and at times intimidating and even scary (when they just wont let up).

Posted by: kisskat at July 1, 2008 7:02 AM

And to think that a lot of people will be trying to ride around Australia in support of the Australian Mental Health Research Institute next year, when all the bi polars nutcases and psychos are gathered here on the blogs, obviously irresistant to any form of meaningful help

you'd know what I mean wouldn't you A

Posted by: captainstarlight at July 1, 2008 4:25 AM

antoi at 8:36pm: Welcome to the blogs, and congratulations on a post that was full of both brains and heart.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 30, 2008 11:49 PM

murtajaz at 11:59am: "money helps, but it does not work on the already rich women."

I reckon it does. Backwards. If you've got it, so what else do you have that might be more interesting?

If you haven't, Next!! Which was my point.
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"I wonder though what men think of poor women" I guess it depends on how much money the man has, and if he's still paying child support.

I can only speak for myself. Zero plus zero doesn't add up to much. I'm hoping to have some money in 5 or ten years. Enough for one but not for two. So I tend to steer clear of women who have as little as I have, and less likely to change that in the next 5 or 10 years.
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"I am sure the sight of a guy with a bit of class gets them (the poor women) dreaming." Let's get real, mate. One with a bit of money would be more use to them.

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Posted by: timewarp1 at June 30, 2008 11:45 PM

Being attractive or beautiful does have its advantages but there can be a down side.

I have been followed home from the supermarket which gave me a scare. I have been followed while shopping in the city. One man I met through this site became possessive, obsessive, and a tad stalkerish. That really scared me, and only last night a taxi driver exposed himself when I was paying my fare.

I have recieved much unwanted attention over the years. I don't know if being small of stature plays a part. Some men seem to believe persistance will win but at times they are quite intimidating and it makes me feel very vunerable.

Posted by: cautious08 at June 30, 2008 11:24 PM

Murta, that's not nice, lol. No, I think istj has noticed the glam side of the industry like a lot of people do, but it really is very creepy and dirty once you work inside it.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 30, 2008 11:20 PM

So true Murta, I worked in the industry for about 26 years and have never ever met a more worthless bunch of sleazes and wannabees. Some of the older trainers have some skill but they are very few and far between. It's a world of its own and attracts the despos.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 30, 2008 8:50 PM

I remember seeing a documentary as a young teenager about the attributes that make up beauty ie. facial bone structure and the proportions that are more appealing. Seeing it broken down scientifically was life changing. From that moment on I told myself that I would never treat people differently according to their appearances... noone can choose the bone structure they were born with so why discriminate? I'm careful not to worship beauty or celebrities. I observe the way people behave all the time. It's easy to notice the way my friends are much nicer to a 'beautiful' girl than they are to someone they don't find attractive. This disparity annoys me wherever it rears its head. People are much more shallow than they think. It's one thing to not find someone attractive, but to treat them poorly because of it is bad form.

Posted by: antoi at June 30, 2008 8:36 PM

captainstarlight at 3:26am: You're sounding almost like him but I am not deceived. If he was back yet, he would have answered my last 2 off-blog emails.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 30, 2008 11:27 AM

Timewarp, you do not need to make vast amounts of money to take out women.

That concept is almost as silly as certain women in their 50/60s who think they make suitable adornments for 60 foot yachts. But once you peel off the 10 inches of plastered on makeup, all you get is an old hag fit only for the scullery, not to be displayed on deck where the 20 somethings frolic.

Aim for the ugliest you can find, the ones who will pay you to take them out. This site is full of them; take your blinkers off.

Posted by: captainstarlight at June 30, 2008 3:26 AM

tassiedude1June 29, 2008 5:21 PM

Its the deck doing it dude! I've been advised to remove my skateboard picture in case prospects think it is my only means of transport..
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 30, 2008 12:22 AM

tassiedude, you don't need to kiss frogs, just checked your profile....your princess is out there , it may just take a bit of time to find her, so keep at the frogettes...from the girls holidaying in brisvegas, dolphin and today and junebaby think you are hot....have a lovely evening all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 29, 2008 10:11 PM

istj at 4.28pm: It's not what you've got. it's the way that you use it, eh?

I haven't been working hard enough at my business for the last 8 months, because I can have a champaign life on a water income.

But all the chicks that I fancy cross me off the list, because I'm so much poorer than they are.

Time I made some decent money. Starting with the project I start tomorrow - $4000 for however long it takes me to do the defined job. Unless it takes over 40 hours - then it's an extra at $90 an hour.

We sign the confidentiality agreement tomorrow, and I get the first $1000 in advance, to cover my first ten hours work. Not big bikkies for top-level specialised consulting, but I like to give value. Must catch Coles now, then across town for tennis. Seeya.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 29, 2008 5:35 PM

To jstj54
Obviously I am living in a fantasy world just going around kissing frogs.:)

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 29, 2008 5:28 PM

You are quite right. I am feeling rather sad. On the outside I hide it well, showing a smile, the occasional laugh, but on the inside I am in turmoil. This is not where I want to be. I am desperately wanting to be in love and wanting to be loved. Every time a window of opportunity opens the door slams shut and I am left alone in the dark. I think I mentioned to someone the other day that I am starting to feel comfortable being single I guess today is one of those exceptions. I do perceive myself to be quite handsome but I'm not arrogant about it. Quite often if someone mentions it I get rather embarrassed. I didn't sign up for this single life and it wasn't all that long ago that I was enveloped by happiness. I learnt a very important lesson in life never take things for granted as you never know. One day you wake up and find that she's not there. Cherish every moment you have and always let her know that she is being cherished.
My mother taught me very well. I am very polite and always try to be a gentleman. It was quite amusing/disturbing the other week I took someone out for dinner. I pulled the chair out for her to sit several times she had no idea what I was doing and went to sit somewhere else.
Well I guess that's life. I know that one day the door wont slam shut and I will indeed find what I am looking for. Until then one day at at a time. Please don't feel sorry for me, everybody has a story to tell otherwise we wouldn't be here, I'm a big boy. I can handle it. I really need to be careful about being so open and honest on these public forums. I hope it doesn't come back to bite me on the backside. Anyway, I think I'll taxi down to the local and drown my sorrows yet again. Tomorrow will be a better day.
Lots of love. Hope we all find what we are looking for.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 29, 2008 5:21 PM

iaminperth...there are a lot of wonderful people in the racing industry...a girlfriend of mine is forever suggesting the races as a place to meet meet...methinks to meet gamblers:))

Posted by: istj54 at June 29, 2008 4:36 PM

WB...he has to feed the greedy entrepreneurs who are going to rip him off for $6 000 per year ha, ha, ha! to get his business up again...or something up again. I thought he had told us all how good he was at that himself. Mystery deepens.
tassietude...as if...it was a dream...who meets someone having a smoke at the end of the night and expects it to be the real thing? Get real.
iaminperth, I never had much luck with the poor little birds my children and students have tried to rescue over the years , so you are doing well:))

Oh, yes, on topic, being beautiful IS a huge advantage when used to advantage and matched by inner beauty too. A classically beautiful face matched by a cold heart loses its beauty fairly quickly, whereas a lovely smile, or laughing eyes, become more beautiful as you grow to know them. Guess what I am saying is that it is an advantage to have inner beauty, rather than outer for the long haul.

Posted by: istj54 at June 29, 2008 4:28 PM

Thanks Malsie, I always think it is a privelege to mix with nature. When the droughts were really bad in Qld we put some large bathtubs in the back paddocks for the mares and foals. Unfortunately, a few birds would get caught in them and couldn't fly out. I had an owl for years who decided to stay, the most beautiful little creature I have ever seen, numerous parakeets etc., and a wonderful hawk. The kooka however was the one with the sense of humour and he would come with me when I rode around the property to check the fences each day and check on the mares. I had a dreadfully injured thoroughbred sent to me at one stage, he had been hit by a car leaving the racetrack in Brisbane. He required dressings four or five times a day and being kept immobile except for very controlled walking. When he was nearly better, he was like a big puppy. I had to race down to the house one day and left him to have a wander. I turned around when I was on the phone and there he was standing in the office next to our dining room having a look in the litter bin. We actually had to back him out very carefully thru the family room, down the hallway and out thru the laundry. He was as good as gold. He had won a lot of money for his owners and when he was well they shipped him back to NZ so that he could live the rest of his life in open paddocks. There are a few nice people in the racing industry.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 29, 2008 3:47 PM

tassiedude, I can imagine that would be a bit disappointing (re the woman you texted) and it may well have felt like a dream! I would take it that whilst you saw it as a potential relationship, she was just having a bit of flirtatious fun, and that she really doesn't feel like having a relationship right now (or is already in one with someone else perhaps).

Posted by: malsie at June 29, 2008 2:45 PM

WHO do you have to feed now, TW? I missed that...it can't be your dates, because you go Dutch...bring me up to speed here..

Posted by: waterbombe at June 29, 2008 2:32 PM

Thanks WB. I get a lot more than that, for 3 years. Actually did it to force me to get real again with my business, which I haven't really been, since last October. Now I've got them to feed too, you'll hear a lot less from me. Off to poetry now, then night tennis. Seeyezall.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 29, 2008 1:48 PM

iaminperth, I loved the idea of you putting extra sausages on the barbie for your injured Kooka to steal! What a lovely thing to do....

Posted by: malsie at June 29, 2008 1:35 PM

TW, you're paying $500 a month for a year for an ongoing entrepreneur training programme??? THEY sound like the entrepreneurs! To relive your poverty, can't you just offer something similar and ask for a fortune in payment ...if people pay a lot they assume they are getting something worthwhile ...that's how they get sucked in to these schemes. Use that to your advantage and don't think you have nothing worthwhile to teach ...most of the time, neither do the people who are actually doing it. Call me cynical..call me realistic.

Tassiedude, glad to hear you gave that blonde away, just stay positive now. I had a peek at your profile and you are a quite a looker...and you seem a very decent bloke...where are all the thirties women in Tassie, letting you sit around? Girls, get going!

PS. Maybe your text next day to the beautiful woman was a bit assertive...it's so easy to go wrong at the start...perhaps a more casual cooler 'what's up, feel like a drink?' txt would produce the results next time...but how would you know, I mean she may just have had an argument with her boyfriend and had a pissed-off and pissed night out with the girls and you got caught in the cross fire, unfortunately. This sort of thing leaves you confused and wondering if it's worthwhile, I know, but stay in there...you will meet someone you really like, it's just a matter of time.

Posted by: waterbombe at June 29, 2008 1:16 PM

maestrac at 10:57pm: Nice to hear from you again. Always good stuff - quality not quantity. Trying to aim for that myself now.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 29, 2008 12:00 PM

tassiedude, you sound so sad. out of curiosity i took a look at your profile. youre a nice looking guy but i have to admit i was a bit confused reading it. you say you want something but then you dont. im not really sure what you are looking for based on your profile.
can i suggest (choose to ignore) that until you work out what you DO want, you may keep finding you will get the same result.
best of luck in your search.

Posted by: kisskat at June 29, 2008 11:30 AM

But looking at SOME of the men in the same age group, my god they've had a hard life (or they are just down right lying about their age). Posted by: maestrac at June 28, 2008 10:57 PM

Ditto!

Posted by: waterlily58 at June 29, 2008 11:11 AM

My little dove is now sitting outside in a tree, preening his feathers madly and generally tidying himself up. He is very bright and seems quite content just not happy about the way he looks, I can relate to that at this time in the morning. I don't know if he is senegal or what, but he is very pretty and very gentle and I hope he has a safe and happy life and comes back to visit sometimes. I found an injured kooka once and we set him free and he was back within about an hour. He stayed with us on and off for about 10 years, and was a real pain when we had a barbecue. We had to put extra sausages on for our Kooka so he could steal them.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 29, 2008 9:41 AM

We actually did have a 'Brady bunch' type scenario at the back of us a while ago. A family moved in with three children, then on weekends his two children from a previous marriage would arrive. All the kids had a great time, very noisy and active. When her ex turned up to pick up his three for the weekend the other two wanted to go as well, so he ended up with five and so it went on. The exes seemed to organise good stuff for the kids and whoever wanted to go could. They had many barbecues with the kids of all ex partners and with the ex partners and all sounded noisy happy events. I thought it was a terrific scenario and obviously the actions of a lot of thoughtful adults working out how to do this thing well.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 29, 2008 4:00 AM

Thanks Chuditch. A lady not far from us had doves in her backyard but cats were causing problems so she let them go. A couple came to our house to nest in a tree in the backyard. We have a large dog so I suppose they thought they are safe and they come and go as they please. This little dove seems almost tame and quite at home. I was just standing in the garden when there was a loud thump overhead and then feathers rained down and plop down came the dove. Shocked the pants off my dog and cat who just sat there staring whilst I picked this little bird up. My dog is not bothered with birds at all and happily sleeps on her bed in the courtyard whilst they peck around and the cat doesn't seem to be interested either. As for the blog topic, it all seems so shallow to me and a lot of people need to grow up and get over themselves. I do believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 29, 2008 3:41 AM

laughsandtalks ...i like to read the blogs and im not a big contributor for my own reasons....maybe you should be more interesting in your posts...

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 29, 2008 12:20 AM

Do nice guys always finish last?
So your out with friends, enjoying your night, scanning for potentials but not really looking. Towards the end of the night you go outside for a cigarette. Then without even knowing how you're in the arms of a beautiful woman. You kiss for a while and then you walk over to a park, find a seat and chat and kiss some more. In the back of your mind your not only thinking how did this happen your also thinking how nice this person is and the potential for friendship, maybe more.
So it's getting late and it's time to go. You decide to walk this beautiful person home. You arrive at her door, desperate not to let her go. Not necessarily for sex but more for intimate companionship. In the back of your mind you think if only I try a little harder she will open the door. Of course you do the honorable thing, peck her on the cheek, and bid her a goodnight.
The next day you send her a text "Dinner for two reservations at 7pm". She replies "have plans not really interested in dating but thanks for asking.
Then you just left wondering if it was all just a dream.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 28, 2008 11:21 PM

As there has been some not so nice comments about the top 100, I decided to browse the female category in the early 50's and up age bracket. I have to say, there are some truly stunning women around. There are also some not so stunning.

I remember looking through family photos of when my parents were in their 40's and the hairstyles, makeup and clothing made them look older than their years. Are women today more beautiful than previous generations or are we just looking after ourselves better. I agree, a lot of women do tend to let themselves go a bit after having babies and continue to pile on the kilos. Some of us are dealt a bitter blow by inheriting all the bad genes like big noses and short stature. Before we know it middle age is looming and menopause deals us another blow. To cap it off our husbands bugger off with some bird 10 or 20 years our junior leaving us dejected and feeling like crap for a couple of years until we come out the other side and become beautiful butterflies again (well some).

The men by comparison have it easy, no mood swings, no monthly periods, no stretch marks from childbearing, the list could go on and on. OK, so you have to shave, big deal, so do we (our legs, armpits, bikini line). But looking at SOME of the men in the same age group, my god they've had a hard life (or they are just down right lying about their age).

Posted by: maestrac at June 28, 2008 10:57 PM

eastofcbd at 12:47pm and Perth just after:

No, not us lot, gals - the stand-in censor while Karina is having her month's leave.

I'd posted a piece a bit after midnite, and it usually appears (or else hits the cutting room floor) by the time I'm back on line about 9.30 am.

It was already after 11am, and I was preparing to go out for an RSVP 4-hour after-lunch coffee date, and then straight on to an RSVP dinner date a couple of suburbs away from the first. Just home from that a little while ago.

And still got another gal waiting for my invited email, as soon as I get an overdue $1K customer cheque on Monday and can afford next week's rent and another book of stamps.

Skint this week, after signing on at the breakfast seminar to pay $500 a month for a year for their ongoing entrepreneur training programme. Sick of being p o v v o most of the time.

Marcustan at 6.51pm: You are so right, mate. Disputation is essential.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 28, 2008 10:30 PM

iaminerth@5.48pm.
Please stick the senegal dove(or whatever) in a DARK shoebox in a quiet place.
Darkness and warmth are the necessities to help it /'any other fauna ,combat trauma.... Let's face it,senegal doves aren't as bad as the noisy minahs which have over run SEQ.
(All creatures are entitled to a second chance)Keep a bird in a dark and warm situation,and it may have a second chance.
Haning grown up in South Perth.I'm aware of how squirrels,Senegal doves and other exotic species have affected our local natives.But hey...that was all caused by MAN,not the birds or mammals

Posted by: kurli at June 28, 2008 8:25 PM

To iaminperth, Don't let the bird go if it has got dark - it wont be able to find a safe roost - put it in a cardboard box for the night, don't worry about food or water, and release it in the morning. If its a feral Senegal Dove it would have been better to let the attacker have a meal. Senegal doves spread disease to our native birds and zoonoses to people (make sure you wash your hands thoroughly) - if it is one I would just give it a knock on the head.

As for the blog topic - I sometimes feel sorry for people who are perceived to be beautiful. They are usually obsessed with maintaining their looks and attract people who are only attracted to the 'outer' superficial view. Then they become critical of each other if perfection is not maintained. I have a friend who was nagged by her ex to attend a gym several times each week and vetted what clothes she wore - what a control freak!!

Posted by: chuditch at June 28, 2008 7:32 PM

Posted cutesmile52 at June 28, 2008 2:49 PM
...we need fresh blood on these blogs...ive almost given up reading them

Yes nothing fresh about your comments cutesmile; hows about offering up something?
Blogs would be moribund quickly if sometimes the contrary viewpoint, (and one not necessarily held by the poster) were not offered wouldn't they?


Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 28, 2008 6:51 PM

It's pouring in Perth today, the wind is blowing and it's cold. We are all inside, including the pooch and the two cats. We have no heaters going and have turned all electrical appliances off to conserve power.
We have lots of warm clothing and boots to keep ourselves warm so any disruption to our lives is minimal. We also have a little dove which crashed to the ground when attacked by a larger bird. I'm not sure how to set it free because it is raining so much outside, thought I may sit it in a hanging basket later and let it decide itself when to go.....any suggestions ???? That is my biggest decision I need to make today, after that will be what to have for dinner and what time to have it. I don't think we realise how easy we all have it in this country so instead of bickering and getting this one upmanship going all the time, just maybe chill out and look around you and start from scratch again with the thinking and take some things on board that people are offering and discard other opinions that dont suit at that time. Don't forget any suggestions for my little dove. He/she seems very bright at the moment and will need to be set free, just not sure how to do that when it's pouring so badly,

Posted by: iaminperth at June 28, 2008 5:48 PM

I read on a blog a while ago that there were some regulars who blogged under different names, there certainly is a core of regulars who just love taking the opposite view. Is that just to wind us up and keep it going?

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 28, 2008 4:59 PM

we need fresh blood on these blogs...ive almost given up reading them

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 28, 2008 2:49 PM

FYI Called it off and feeling a heap better:)

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 28, 2008 2:39 PM

Will you take your washing with you to the 'corporate breakfast' TW???

Posted by: iaminperth at June 28, 2008 2:10 PM

It actually died in the vagina easto, lol.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 28, 2008 2:06 PM

Or they are all going around and around in circles with uncreativestuart about some one elses ex. What a timidy boring little puddin' he turned out to be.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 28, 2008 1:49 PM

No they're all over arguing about vaginas on the other site. Please TW don't go there and give your opinion on what your mother told you 300 years ago, maggots and all.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 28, 2008 1:47 PM

Me thinks this blog has died in the bum tw.

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 28, 2008 12:47 PM

Testing. Testing. Testing.
Is anybody there?

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 28, 2008 11:16 AM

EE: Hope your birthday night out was a blast, but that you weren't totally demolished by it this morning. cheers

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 28, 2008 12:35 AM

DodgyRoot
I wonder if Hi Ho Silver has taken your advice and sought T-H-E-R-A-P-Y.
Top of the class because of it or despite it?

Posted by: sensounico at June 27, 2008 9:31 PM

Will be getting new pics when I get a chance... Need someone to help

I did add a couple of my little paradise, just for interest

Posted by: creativestuart at June 27, 2008 4:04 PM

Stu, have you changed your pics yet ??..I haven't checked to see if you followed up on the advice given in that regard a few weeks ago.... woops best l do.............

And a comment on kerry and her art gallery....... l would not go as far as to call it art that is fer sure. That is about all l can come up with..........................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 27, 2008 1:47 PM

Hi mystiemuse

A suggestion, get rid of the extreme closeup pics and make your second photo your main one...

The text seems quite good....

And don't worry too much you are not the only one with few responses or aproaches

Just relax and let it happen....

Posted by: creativestuart at June 27, 2008 9:07 AM

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 27, 2008 7:58 AM

It was a long haul flight.....wasn't it? I think I might have missed the topics point.....again.............Good to see you embrace the GLAB......do you think we should make it less formal and go lower case ????.........a thought for a better mind than mine....have a great day.....

Posted by: spanky668 at June 27, 2008 9:02 AM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 9:00 PM
"oh...just a little something I heard...
a Woman is a highly Sophisticated ..infinitely Complex ..deeply Intelligent being.....and it needs to be carefully tricked into doing things...hoh!"

Well that is certainly how women seem to want it now days... Straight forward and honest is getting me nowhere!!!!

Posted by: creativestuart at June 27, 2008 8:57 AM

mystiemuse - For what it's worth I think your second pic should be your first. It's lovely. (And where did you get those gorgeous earings?).

I do love your profile name. It's great.

Do agree with Timewarp re a negative in your headline. You obviously have a wicked sense of humour, try it with a postive twist instead of a negative in your headline grabber. And I think you are obviously the sort to be able to constantly come up with funny and quirky things so mix it up a bit. Change the wording in your profile every so often. Especially your opening headline.

Your last two sentences are fabulous! You seem to just radiate.

Have a great day all.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 27, 2008 8:12 AM

spanky - 10.54. Re Ralph. Yes for all the stuff he went through it would have wanted to be 'good'. hehe. Jen.

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 27, 2008 7:58 AM

OMG

it's forensicword

Posted by: captainstarlight at June 27, 2008 7:45 AM

Indie wannabe@ 7.13am

Like a couple of other nasties that periodically drop in......get what passes for your brain,out of the gutter!

Posted by: kurli at June 27, 2008 7:35 AM

mystiemuse at 4:05pm: I agree with emjaz at 5.55pm. Kill the ET impersonation photo forever. Now! It says "I'm pretending to be looking for a bloke, but I'm trying to frighten them all off, so no-one ever gets as far as looking at my actual profile."

2) Use photo No 2 not No 3 as your main one because it's more gorgeous, AND its colour contrast is dramatic - among 20 or 30 others on the page it will magnetise the eye in half a second.

No 3 is a nice soft character study, but it's a picture of a wife, not a mistress. And you know where fellers' minds start from.

2) Age: Why not hope for 37 to 47, or you too are only looking for a toyboy.

3) And yes, you're average. I'm a bit overweight.

4) Hate your headline para. Another bullet in your foot. They see the gorgeous No. 2 chick, they click on it to see the 160-keystroke Grabber headline and oh yuck!

5) Don't like your fine print either. Never put yourself down so many times in one piece.

But your interests and perfect partner profile are fine, because you wrote them straight, not smart-arsed self-deprecating.

Can you afford a stamp? For that I'll critique your next draft profile(s) in detail off-blog, and if your verse is any good, publish some of it in 'The Mozzie' new-poetry monthly, which I now co-edit.

Corporate breakfast in the CBD at 7.15am tomorrow, so must hit the sack fast. Seeyez.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 27, 2008 12:30 AM

decoratress at June 26, 2008 11:05 PM

hi there...lol...no..don't worry..definately not some-one we have both met..(interesting thought though) ..just imagine if something like that did happen??

I heard it from a stand up comedian...and wrote it slightly out of context...

how horrible to think that some-one tried using that on you...ofcourse..I'm sure he couldn't get away with tricking you into anything...cheers nw

spanky668 at June 26, 2008 10:54 PM

LOL...and Happy Birthday for last Sunday!!
<3

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 11:53 PM

just when you start to think you've seen and heard it all on here.......along comes kerry...how ...refreshing? ...this site truly 'bloggles' the mind!

kerry..what a giggle....what is one 'exposed' to in the art gallery?

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 11:25 PM

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 26, 2008 10:31 PM

OHHH ! is that where everyone is???

(writes down- adulterymatchmaker)
thanks jewels !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 26, 2008 11:16 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 9:00 PM
"oh...just a little something I heard...
a Woman is a highly Sophisticated ..infinitely Complex ..deeply Intelligent being.....and it needs to be carefully tricked into doing things...hoh!"

Wow.. where did you hear that nw?
Justsaying it sounds horribly like someone I had the great misfortune to meet through the blogs a few months ago..

Posted by: decoratress at June 26, 2008 11:05 PM

Jen, not sure if this should posted here or in the "good sex for the long haul" blog......the socks, sandles, and those little suit pants shorts......always wonder what they're thinking.....definite first date material (sorry anyone who does wear these) .........on the good sex for the long haul topic .....should ask Ralph Fiennes on this one ; P

Posted by: spanky668 at June 26, 2008 10:54 PM

kerrysartgallery, that profile is a joke right.....I mean are you serious??? Because you are giving women a bad name ...no it has to be a joke!!!!!! There are other sites foe sex pick ups, maybe you should try adult matchmaker!!!!...just my thoughts...jewels


,

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 26, 2008 10:31 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 26, 2008 3:13 PM
Ahhh Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, my dear boy. You forget that I am in a serious relationship with a Goddess who takes care of all rising matters. There is no need for me to be a Horus even on the one day a week that the godddess rests. rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at June 26, 2008 9:15 PM

oh...just a little something I heard...

a Woman is a highly Sophisticated ..infinitely Complex ..deeply Intelligent being.....and it needs to be carefully tricked into doing things...hoh!

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 9:00 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 26, 2008 6:42 PM I hope I am not dragging up painful memories.......but, seeing as you were there..... is this the reason you lash out, ....that "Horus" (Ra, aka Atum or Atum-Re") .....chose the option he did.........did you feel rejected..........or were you simply a technical adviser ?????? what score did you give?????

Posted by: spanky668 at June 26, 2008 8:59 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 8:37 PM

Mine was last Sunday, 1st day of Cancer (or last of Gemini if the prediction is better)....cheating????

Posted by: spanky668 at June 26, 2008 8:47 PM

well..no more school books or dirty looks for a few weeks....yaaaayyy! free at laaaast!
having a break..think I've got cyber burn-out

hi kurli...time to start celebrating soon!...your birthday must be around the same time as me.. and spanky..hello there..when is yours.. we shall all charge glasses soon enough!...mwah nw x

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 8:37 PM

While it's still 'peace'ful in here just like to send warm hugs to the people who said nice things about a certain post....(hug hug hug)....beautiful people...nw x....

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 8:20 PM

captainstarlight @7.27pm:
I am neither TW1's nemesis nor his puppet! I am truly my own personality..........pity! Indiana Jones has always been a true hero to me......Trust me kiddo..........I KNOW I can survive the outback(been there done that)
Have YOU ??or are you like a few other fellas on this site.........and FULL of CO2.???

Posted by: kurli at June 26, 2008 7:47 PM

This is a very popular topic, specially when it takes so long to get up to date after a day of work.

So we have lost Amanda, a brief season, but with much controversy.

Some budding relationships nipped in the bud,

Mid winter, suppose its a down time for some, maybe better times arounfd the corner.

Posted by: virgil at June 26, 2008 7:37 PM

What happened to Dante�s inferno�...bit quiet in here..wheeeeere aaaaare youuuu Aaaamanda? nw x

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 26, 2008 7:32 PM

Kerrysartgallery - 5.19. Why are you single? Are you serious? With a profile like that it sure doesn't look like you are looking for anything substantial to me. Aren't there other sites for what you are really after? Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 26, 2008 7:28 PM

No, captain, just ancient Egyptian religion being seriously invoked at 3.13pm by the high priest of the Church for Denouncing all Religions.

Off to my seminar. Seeyez all.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 6:47 PM

spanky668 June 26, 2008 5:24 PM

Yes you are wrong about Horus. I was there when it happened.

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 26, 2008 6:42 PM

OMG.

The Return of the Mummy

Posted by: captainstarlight at June 26, 2008 6:32 PM

Marcustan at 3:13pm: You are warped, and not by time. A stir is almost always a self-description, and you've just supplied yours.

To avoid a cricked back, try using a cigarette holder while you're keeping the stars in their places so far above you.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 6:29 PM

Thank you for all your thoughts. I will certainly take them into consideration. Unfortunately it was intuition which led me to find out certain indiscretions with my ex. Even though I forgave her she could not let it go.
Cheers. Taking a break from blog land for a few days.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 26, 2008 6:13 PM

Thanks to all the well-wishers for my birthday. I am having an absolutely magical day!!! Just popped on inbetween things...got to go and get ready for a night in the pub with my friends. I am loving being 56! That half a bottle of Italian red at lunchtime probably helps.....and me a two pot screamer....ah well, as I recently said to someone, I know that the way to a person's heart is through the liver (and I'll probably regret that at about midnight but life is too short not to have fun and play a little).
Ciao folks

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 26, 2008 6:05 PM

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 8:00 PM


gee thanks!!!

Posted by: tradieforalady at June 26, 2008 5:45 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 26, 2008 3:13 PM

Marcus, actually Ra was the egyptian god of the sun, who "ingested" his own seed....thus creating 4 gods (his children, don't recall their names) who inturn created Isis, Osiris, Seth and Nephysis. Seth killed Osiris (who was Isis' lover and brother....who needs soapies).....and buried him in pieces across Egypt so he could not be laid to rest.....Isis and Nemphysis gathered the pieces together and brought Osiris back to life using the Ankh, just long enough for Isis to conceive his child....Horus...who swore to avenge his fathers murder... becoming known as Horus the avenger.........this is my understanding......could be wrong...............side note, the Orion constellation in ancient egypt represented Osiris, and Sirius represented Isis.......It was said the reason that sirius always tracked Orions path across the sky, was Isis' love for Osiris....

Posted by: spanky668 at June 26, 2008 5:24 PM

im beautiful. why am i still single at my age?

Posted by: kerrysartgallery at June 26, 2008 5:19 PM

flying foxy - I like that Marcus. You crack me up sometimes. At least she can take it in good spirit! Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 26, 2008 5:14 PM

Hi Jen.......Thank you so much for your well wishes, and positive presence in the blogs.........is always a pleasure to hear your views as you have such a great attitude to life...........still keeping my eye on the top ten..... (all of them)....

Posted by: spanky668 at June 26, 2008 5:08 PM

Happy Birthday EE from a fellow cancerian, you're proof women age like fine wines......(not milk, whoever made that reference).....Hope you have a great birthday, and get spoilt (the way it should be).......

Posted by: spanky668 at June 26, 2008 5:04 PM

Hi to the familiar bloggers and the new....
Amanda has done this before....creates havoc with everyone then ups and leaves!

Posted by: brilliantblue at June 26, 2008 4:59 PM

OMG - Now I'm really embarrassed. Sorry Amanda. Sorry Lynda. Let's start again -

~ ~ ~ HAPPY BIRTHDAY LYNDA ~ ~ ~

I do hope very much you are having a wonderful day. ( Maybe my day will come together soon - well I'm hoping. lol.)

Think I might crack open a bottle of champers myself tonight. mmmmm.
Enjoy like I will. lol.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 26, 2008 4:51 PM

~ ~ ~ HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMANDA ~ ~ ~

Hope you're enjoying a wonderful day.

xxx Jen xxx

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 26, 2008 4:37 PM

Okay, from reading this blog and so many of the others, it seems I must be one of the only ones NOT getting any kisses or emails. Is this correct??? And if so why?? I really am interested to know...someone...anyone??? I know I am not everyones ideal but I must be appealing to more than "Mr last resort"?? Maybe....???

Posted by: mystiemuse at June 26, 2008 4:05 PM

Might have to re moniker Warped and Grego as Horus1 and 2.
H. was the Egyptian solar deity who legend has it could fellate himself every night because ingesting his own semen kept the stars in their places. Given the amount of obsequious attention lavished on the 'stars'; flyingfoxy ("I only shag consul generals") and Miss Britain bubblebwain it seems appropriate.
Cheers Marquis

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 26, 2008 3:13 PM

Happy birthday elegant, hope you're having a nice day.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 26, 2008 2:40 PM

Ohh, and "Woody" another beer , thanks mate...
:~D

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 26, 2008 2:39 PM

off topic
'Woody' - now how do we get, both houses of the Australian parliament to learn that lesson ??
And a tip for 'Manda:
Never argue with a fool. People might not be able to tell the difference.
If you absolutely must, keep as serene as is possible. Do not let them provoke you. Ever. Being really, really, really sarcastic in a calm tone of voice is a good way. See The Matrix. Remember when Neo fights the agent with one hand? Look like that. Let them get worked up. Have fun.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 26, 2008 2:30 PM

I have two small dogs, which I regularly walk off-leash with larger dogs. They are happy playing with the bigger dogs but I have taught them that if a big dog starts hassling them they should not run, nor should they fight back .... they should just sit still. This way, 99.9% of the big dogs just give up and move on to another target. I wonder if this could be applicable to these blogs?

Maybe some of the bigger dogs pick on them because they are so beautiful.....

Posted by: woodnwine at June 26, 2008 2:09 PM

hello everyone! im looking for some female friends in sydney...anyone interested...would like to have a girls night out in the city and practise our flirting skills!!

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 26, 2008 1:51 PM

eral @ 1.10 - yes, well said. Also I think if you have to keep pointing something about yourself out to people so often, maybe you should be asking yourself some serious questions. IE - maybe others don't see us the way we see ourselves (hey, myself included sometimes).

Posted by: woodnwine at June 26, 2008 1:39 PM

EE: Hope you're already having a happy birthday, and that it'll get even better as day fades to evening.

But more importantly, that this birthday will be better than your last nine, but nowhere as happy as your next nine. My very bestest wishes for them!

PS: If you need any blackguards faced down, give grego and me a yell.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 1:35 PM

I have to say how i'm surprised i am by how successful Amanda's war has been.

1- go shrill to create a sense of urgency and desperation
2- transform your war into a moral crusade
3- create a threatening presence to deter others
4- the grand strategy - lose the battles, but win the war.

She threw a tantrum, and finally you gave her her lolly (just to shut her up ?)

As for showing respect, in my day, respect for elders was still a very important.
Screaming "YOUR DISGUSTING and PATHETIC", at ones elders, just wasn't on, even if you thought they were being old fashioned or rude!

As for the lesson learned - "never argue with a idiot, they drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience. "


Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 26, 2008 1:10 PM

Tassiedude/Rod

If your intuition is always spot on, why are you in so much conflict?
Did your intuition warn you that your wife was going to leave?
I think you are putting the kybosh on this potential relationship.
Give the blonde the benefit of the doubt. She may be feeling just as you are.

Estelle

Posted by: enrepres at June 26, 2008 12:26 PM

grego at 11.07: Mate, don't sell yourself short by only aiming at a squire job.

As a demonstrated true knight in this place, if I were you I'd be aspiring to be knotting one of her other scarves round your own lance.

In this place a lady's very wise to have a bob each way, till she sees who's won (her affections.)

As to the polish, my armour's the new stainless steel - such a time-saver for a knight without a squire or any other hangers-on.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 11:29 AM

PPS: Remember in When Harry met Sally, the onlooker to the faked orgasm in the cafe said "I'll have what she's having."

Well if the onlooker had M&M's attitudes, she'd say "How disgusting! Even dogs go behind a bush!"

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 11:07 AM

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 10:22 AM

OK by me old Knight. The fair damsell EE has given you her silk scarf to carry into battle. I would be happy to tag along with you to polish your armour and feed your charger and hope one day to find a smidgeon of favour with that honourable lady.
rgds grego

PS do I use silvo polish or a liquid cream cleanser on armour?

Posted by: grego7 at June 26, 2008 11:07 AM

Real beauty comes from within. If I may use the example of Jane Mc Grath whom I think is an example of a very good looking woman but also a very beautiful person.

Her smile and her happiness and her obvious deep love for her husband. Radiant smile is a cliche but it does indicate how her beauty went out to the others. I only ever saw her on the Denton show and that smile came through the TV loud and clear. There is no doubt that if she had smiled at me in person I would never have forgotten it.

Sadly that beauty is now lost except in our memories.

Beauty is a continuum. There are a small number of technically very beautiful woman. This is because their faces have certain proportions ( height vs width skin clarity etc. I think the proportion is 1: 1.4 )

Most of the population falls into the good looking to handsome range and lastly there is a small % who are downright ugly. eg NZ prime minister Helen Clarke.

As I have got older my perception is that there are increasingly more good looking and beautiful women everywhere. I suspect that is beacuse unlike when I was a callow youth I now look at every woman and realise there is a person in that body and that person could be very wonderful.

I believe many 50s+ men would have more success in finding fulfilling relationships if they looked for the inner beauty rather than concentaring on the outer skin. rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at June 26, 2008 10:53 AM

PS: Marcustan at 12.47am was referring to a sincere exchange of sentiments in the Long distance blog yesterday. qv.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 10:47 AM

Marcustan at 12.47am: "Warped, time to come out for air and give the face a wash mate, brown marks all over it."

1) Some people are afraid of intimacy. They fear that if they dare to show their soft side in public, the school bullies will take advantage of them, and tease them unmercifully in front of their peers.

That just walking down the street hand in hand will cause loud shouts of "You've got a girlfriend!!!"

2) Some people take the Briddish view that any public exhibition of affection is Jolly bad form, what!

3) And some people are so emotionally inhibited that public demonstrations of affection make them want to hide their eyes, to lessen their unbearable embarrassment.

I'm sorry that you and merdejaz have one or more of those hangups, developed to a high degree, but that's something to see your shrink about.

Nothing to do with me. I've got the hide of a rhinocerus, so I plan to keep on being unashamedly authentic in public.

Is that OK by the rest of us?

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 10:22 AM

Tassiedude, There are some great books out there about coping with the belly-up relationship things, don't know why they seem to be titled to speak to women as if men don't have hearts and feel hurt as well (eg, "Face it, he's just not that into you"), but they do give a good common message....don't fall in love with the idea of love, and I reckon that's what the reaction to the blonde might just have been.
I hope your head is feeling better today and you can see a way forward. It's just another lesson for life being sent to you. Chill and enjoy, and if you can't then embrace the moment of misery and enjoy it when it goes. I do feel for you, mate, honestly, but it isn't worth the agony in the long run. Keep your heart open for the right one, this lady may not be her.

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 26, 2008 10:12 AM

kisskat at 6:41 AM your wrote: "I'm amazed at how many bloggers have said they immediately eliminate people on the top 100 as potential partners. Why exactly?"

I said this BEFORE I knew how LITTLE the number of daily kisses or emails could be to get on the Top 100. After our discussion, I confess, I now look much more favourable at the people on the Top 100 than I did before the discussion.

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 26, 2008 10:11 AM

OGre at 12:50am: It must be terrible to have your internal conflict - the battle between your determination not to miss a thing, and your short attention span.

I suggest you try a speed-reading course - as we age, we need to keep learning new things, or we become old and cranky.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 9:57 AM

amandaongoldcoast at 4:43am: Aren't you the early bird? Hope you're never out of worms, or whatever birds buy with their pay-packets. In winter I wake the 9am to 1am shift, once the day's started to warm a little, so it only takes 30 mins of Greenhouse room heater to make my home office bearable for rugged-up sedentary pursuits.

"yes I have always been spulky...(what's that in aussie?) ...and I like who I am becoming, but I am not there yet."

The positive people who post here can relate to that. When you stop trying to fine-tune yourself nicer and nicer as you age, you know you've become either suddenly old, or merdejaz.

If you've got to go girl, after being our friend for a reason, go girl!

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 26, 2008 9:47 AM

Tassiedude and Jenniferhi, As we get older most of the slings amd arrows of cruel fortune (apologies to the bard) dont hurt as much as when we were young.

The exception is the heart and no matter how old old one is that organ aches terribly at times.

My very best wishes to you. rgds greg.

Posted by: grego7 at June 26, 2008 9:19 AM

OG,
I don't think that I am/was suffering any aches at all yesterday or today, thanks!
As I read through every comment on each blog every day or so before posting, I can assure you that Bill and I are not the only ones "guilty" of posting long comments.
Or do the comments just seem shorter to you when people are having arguments, rather than giving support and encouragement?

As I am not someone who would be considered "beautiful" to look at, I was hardly "wallowing" in it when I raised the point about beautiful people and their insecurities!
For the sake of your Blood Pressure OG, if we upset you so much, just scroll past!

Posted by: amberlight58 at June 26, 2008 9:13 AM

tassiedude - don't presume something will go wrong ...... it may not and then you will have wasted a great opportunity. Just go with the flow mate .... don't think about what COULD go wrong.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 26, 2008 9:09 AM

Tassiedude and Jennifer - hope you're both feeling better. I guess most of us have been there - but for what my advice is worth, don't look back.
A lovely day to everyone - the weekend is near!

Posted by: willow29 at June 26, 2008 8:43 AM

Tassiedude, FOUR cans of bourbon??? Things must be bad!! Hmmm...what to do....should you call the blonde for a second date even when your instinct screams NOOOOOO?

If your intuition is telling you this new liasion will not work out in the long term, pay attention. I think you should sit down and have a conversation with your intuition. Put it in a small room on a hard chair and focus a harsh light on it. Ask it what objection it has to this young lady and write its answers down. Demand clarity from it, and do not stop with the interrogation, sorry interview, until you have searched every corner of its mind. Search for every large, medium-sized and petite objection. Once you have your intuition's thoughts clearly written on a piece of paper, seal the piece of paper in an envelope and do not open it for two days. During this time, have no contact with the young lady. On the third day, sit down with 4 cans of bourbon, open the envelope, read carefully, sift through the evidence and come to the certain understanding that this woman will do you considerably more harm than good. Realise that she will waste a good 6 months of your life, and that during that 6 months the best love of your life will pass unnoticed by you because you are too busy with someone who gives you major grief. Then make the phone call anyway and set up expectations of a relationship starting with a definite second date. Following the phone call, pour the 4 cans of bourbon down your throat. Lie down and regret your actions until the bourbon erases any thinking ability whatsoever. Stay in that state for the next 6 months until the blonde dumps you for a better option.

That's what I would do. Seriously.

Posted by: waterbombe at June 26, 2008 8:15 AM

Tassiedude@ 1.28am:
Sorry to hear that things didnt work out,don't luxuriate in your sorrow..Be positive that "She "will come along!!(Cyber hugs to you)
Amanda@5.07am:
Girl I admire your pluck for defending your beliefs tooth& nail regardless of the name calling.Keep true to yourself.

OG: Good to see you back posting...and yes,way back you were correct!(smiles)

To:Everyone in blogland: It's the first day of the rest of your life,so make it a good one!

To EE........have a REALLY good one lady!

Posted by: kurli at June 26, 2008 8:14 AM

Just want to say my last post was written before the previous a.m. ones were posted. So Amanda, sorry to see you go, feisty is good, and maybe the blogs need more people like you to get your points out.

I only wish you well for the future.

Tassiedude - Hmmmm, hope you're feeling better this morning. Advise - who would I be to give advice about what to do. We just keep plodding along until that magical connection happens. Why not enjoy what you have for the moment, just as long as both of you are clear about it. It is what it is.

I'm sure there will be lots of replies to your post. I've got to go get ready for the day.

Take care all.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 26, 2008 7:00 AM

Tassiedude - Thankyou again. You brought me a tear this morning. When I think about so many special people there really are amongst the bloggers it really is so lovely. A guy I was seeing (only casually, but perhaps thought could go to more, broke it off late last night, so a bit of emotion flowing around here last night and this morn.)

Amanda may think it is some massive clique but let me tell you Amanda, most of us have never even met. I, for one have not met one blogger. Though I like to think I know lots of them in spirit. And there really are so many kind, caring, helpful, supportive, knowlegable people. Kaz is right about perhaps re-reading the blog, and maybe you will see some helpful stuff amongst the (so-called) attack as you see
it.

Goodness, they've given me heaps over some of my beliefs, but it's just a growing experience. I like to be challenged, and look at others points of view. And there have been a couple of times I have stood back and gone hey, maybe I do need to re-assess my view on something. Everything really is not Black and White. Hey Troy?

Naturalwoman - That post was very special and thankyou for sharing. How wonderful to have a mother like that.

And like she said - Life really is beautiful.

Have a good day everyone.

Jen xxx (For Tassiedude)

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 26, 2008 6:43 AM

im amazed at how many bloggers have said they immediately eliminate people on the top 100 as potential partners. why exactly?

just because someone receives/replies to enough contact to be listed there, doesnt say anything about their character or integrity.

in the pursuit of finding a partner, it seems self defeating to me to eliminate all those people by default.

if someone said they would instantly eliminate all overweight people then there would be a big fuss.
it's really the same thing, just in a different package.

Posted by: kisskat at June 26, 2008 6:41 AM

May I just say though before Ieave (as I am going to remove my account and make my way after all this).....

I dont agree with beautiy contests, I am not particularly proud of ever partaking in them, but I was young. I am anti them.

As women I will go against what Yaahmule said, men do not age like wine and women like milk, men just like women to believe that as they prefer to bring them down to make them attainable as we as women hold all that they want and dream of.

As women we are strong, as men they want to find the love of a woman, often it becomes nasty, cruel and an attempt to 'bring a woman down to his level' so he feels like he has a chance if he feels she is too good for him.

I have to say, looking around, its pretty equal in the older guys an girls................the men arent better looking and havent aged better. Just the same.

Goodbye all, be good and remember.......BE NICE and love yourself (but never say you are better than someone else, only different).

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 26, 2008 5:07 AM

Timewarp, thank you, I started modelling at 13, was picked up by an agent in the city centre one day. I ended it all around 21, went back to Uni and got myself a real job and ended up here.

I am not afraid of age, to the contrary.........I look forward to it as although yes I have always been spulky, I have not always been as I am and I like who I am becoming, but I am not there yet.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 26, 2008 4:43 AM

Amberlight, thank you........that was really nice to read after all the onslaught. Oh and thank you to the lovely couple of ladies who sent me a kiss with he message 'you have a lovely picture'. It was very nice, thank you so much.

I am glad some have actually got it. That if we all, men or women, stand up and believe we are beautiful and let noone tell us otherwise, we wouldnt have these control freaks running around who usually arent that great themselves, making judgements.

I see so many overweight men, being rude about womens weights with 'no fat chick' attitudes, when they themselves have a BMI much higher than the women they are bitching about................obviously in many other areas the same applies.

I am simply redressing the balance, or trying to and encouraging (well I had hoped, but clearly not) other women to be just as bold and confident. There is too much negativity and too many people being controlled like puppets to be deemed attractive.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 26, 2008 4:37 AM

Nighty night blog land. till we meet again. The morn is going to be so much more painful. As always.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 26, 2008 1:55 AM

At the end of the day I know there will always be another. Is that enough to console me. Then again maybe there wont be another. For F@#k's sake I don't even know what I
' trying to say.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 26, 2008 1:38 AM

Well her goes. I know I shouldn't but I will anyway. Remember the blond I was telling you about just the other day. Well I should have but I didn't. Break it off. We went for another date. Took her out for dinner. It was the best date I've been on in a long time. Chatted about nothing into the wee hours. Eventually kissed.(One of those upside down kisses), remember spider man hanging by his feet. It was awesomely erotic. Of course I did the gentlemanly thing of leaving before it went to far and called a taxi home. Sent her a text saying how much I enjoyed the night etc,. She, of course, replied with the equal. But now as always I'm FUBR. We were supposed to text today as we had pre arranged. I called several times but to no avail. I just have this gut feeling. (I'm one of those unfortunate bastards whose intuition is always spot on), that it wasn't meant to be from the start.
Now I find myself falling for this girl even though (think I referred it to being broken), I know it wont work. There are just a lot of issues that I don't even want to admit right now but will eventually come back and bite me on the arse. Should I go for it? Should I accept my gut feeling and try no further? I just don't know. Either way I feel I am in for a lot of pain and suffering. Am I still getting over the fact that my wife left me even though I feel I am over that hurdle. Maybe I'm just rushing into things too much and enjoy the fact that now I am single? Probably shouldn't talk about this sort of thing. I'll regret it tomorrow when my head has cleared.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 26, 2008 1:28 AM

Bill and Amber
I have just ereased a long spray at both of you for you excessisvely long posts. I just hope you both get over the aches you both seem to be suffering on soon and do not inflict them on us any more
OOOhhhmmm.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 26, 2008 12:50 AM

Warped, time to come out for air and give the face a wash mate, brown marks all over it.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 26, 2008 12:47 AM

OG. That is the most gentlemanly thing I think I have ever herd you say. Congratulations to you.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 26, 2008 12:35 AM

Amberlight58 I agree with you whole heartedly. But there are those of us men who have been cheated upon equally. Just goes to show how 50/50 it really is. Lots of love
Rod

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 26, 2008 12:27 AM

Tassiedude, does bourbon help with a head cold if it is mixed with coke and ice ??...
Or should l opt for the ever reliable nip of medicinal brandy, mind you it hasn't worked so far......
And that speck on the map called Tassie is a truly lovely place ..........

OG, you know l like to keep you on your toes and guessing !!.............K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 26, 2008 12:23 AM

Onto the red now. Getting way too frisky.And giving away too much info. Want to listen? Check out triple J unearthed! Just search for T dude.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 26, 2008 12:09 AM

Hi Jen,
I agree what a wonderful person Jane McGrath was. I can only imagine just how hard it would be to be to let those details about your life into the public arena.
Yet both Jane and Glen understood how much her public fight for life would make others more aware of the disease, make younger women aware that they are also at risk and make life easier for those who have the disease or who may get it in the future.
They chose to use their "fame" to try to improve the lives of others.
Truly a great example to society (and our children) about how not all "famous" people choose to be self-absorbed.


Amanda I admire your tenacity! Let no woman on these blogs ever chance to let the blokes know, she may have a high self-esteem about her appearance! That just would never do!
I certainly understand how easy it is to become defensive when you feel you are being attacked, and good on you for not backing down.
But I suggest that by being TOO angry you actually encourage some of the blokes on here to become even more 'personal'. It becomes a birt of a game for some to see how low they can go before you "crack".
You already have a great partner by the sounds of things, you know you are more than just okay, physically, intellectually and in your profession; aren't you just giving too much weight to these blokes' opinion of you?

On topic, yes I believe those who are deemed beautiful physically, do have some things easier. But I'm not sure they have it as good as society would like to think.
As Waterbombe said in her post, about very attractive teenage girls, there is always someone who has the need to show them they are "not as good as they think they are".
The same applies to men, but I'm not as sure it is quite as bad.
If being beautiful is so great, why are some of the world's most beautiful women so insecure?
It must be hard to never know if a man really loves you for who you really are or if you are just a prop to his ego. The "look what I can get and you can't" factor.

At least those of us who aren't raving beauties, know that if we have a partner, the chances are he does really loves us and we aren't viewed as a trophy to show off to other blokes!
I can only think how devastating it must be, to then be cheated on?
I mean, if you believe your looks are your major asset (in some cases their self-esteem is so low they believe their looks are their ONLY asset) and some guy still cheats on you, how terrible would that make you feel?
Is it any wonder that some of the world's most beautiful women have lived such sad, lonely and traumatic lives?

Posted by: amberlight58 at June 25, 2008 11:49 PM

Kaz I think not anyone ever knows when it ever started far less when it will ever end. I just thank "whoever" that you are there to aspire, frustrate or titilate us poor men for your being here, for without each other there would be no "us"
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 25, 2008 11:40 PM

naturalwoman, thanks for the post about your mother - that was awesome, and she sounds like she was too...

Posted by: malsie at June 25, 2008 11:37 PM

I'm on a role. Having a binge, Just finished work, bout to crack my fourth can of bourbon. Peace love and mungbeans.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 11:35 PM

Auntykas. I've had my head seriously stuck in the sand. Still thinking of love. peace and happiness.:)

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 11:29 PM

Amanda@GC: At 10.46am I asked you some questions, just for the record. You took them as just another attack from another direction, so you replied negatively and unspecifically.

I was especially interested in your form as a beauty queen, so I researched it tonight. And I have to say that I am very impressed by the statistics and video footage.

Amanda, you really do have form. Still in your teens, you were Miss UK one year, and off to South Africa to try for Miss World. Didn't quite make the top 10 - out off well over a hundred contestants, but what an experience!

Still better results the next year: a semi-finalist in Miss International in Japan, and also third runner-up in Miss Europe (venue unspecified.) All before you were 20.

That will have taken a lot of guts and hard work, as well as the lucky accident of being born with beauty genes.

And now you've got those triumphs behind you, better weather out here, a career you're proud of, and a bloke who seems as proud of you, as you are of him. All good. All many miles better than most of us here, myself included. And you know how many tickets I've got on me. (Most saying ten and thrippence ha'penny, or make an offer.)

So I see you as a tall poppy, who should be able to stand up on her pedestal and poke her tongue out at the world (and a lot further out than that miserable effort in your profile photo. Upgrade it fast - further out, then down, like the polynesians. It's letting the rest of your profile down.)

But you're letting the ankle-biters get you really riled. Which is not cool for a queeny dame. (1950s Brisbane slang for a haughty chick that you'd give your right arm , to have her promenade down Queen St on your left arm on 3 Saturday evenings running.)

Someone has told you "Don't take any nonsense from people. If they cheek you, slap them down" Bad advice.

The true queeny dame lets it all fly past, apparently unnoticed. Or asks occasional questions like "Can you make that insult a bit more potent please? Get it up to a 3 out of 10, maybe?"

Power is inversely related to temperature. The cooler you stay, the more power you keep. And the hotter under the collar you get, the more your mascara runs.

As to the age thing, try not to let it hassle you. I suspect you are actually afraid of catching AGE from other people who are carriers because they are older than you are.

So you're terrified of blokes more than 4 years older then you are, or who are showing signs of AGE (or very high testesterone levels) like early-onset male-pattern baldness. You worry that the AGE will infect you, if you get too near them.

Think of natural-woman's irresistabe elderly mum, and plan how to become more irresistable each year yourself. Have and radiate peace and love, and then only spinsters will notice your wrinkles.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 11:27 PM

And to think I always thought that little map of Tassie was such an important and cherished place. LOL

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 11:08 PM

Auntykas. Little place way down south. Tis often forgotten. No one from Tassie ever makes the top 100. LOL
Jen. Got to stop doing this as its getting corny but you'll always be my number one.
Earl. Funny!

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 11:06 PM

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 10:39 PM

Well I wouldn't support ERAL in the word count then, you're eloquent but not nearly verbose enough to take out the title on word count (not a bad thing, like quotes.....succinct little truths)..........I've wanted to get GLAB out there for a new lol substitute (giggles laughs and blushes).....see if we can't get it into the teenage vernacular.......you could freak your daughter out with that (being behind its adoption).....just a thought

Posted by: spanky668 at June 25, 2008 11:04 PM

Posted by: sandpitstatistics at June 25, 2008 9:16 PM

I demand a word count !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 25, 2008 10:42 PM

Thanks Spanky, but actually I wasn't talking about the RSVP Top list. Lol. I was meaning the list posted below in this blog.
Laughing way out loudly now. But thanks for the ego boost.. Blushing now.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 10:39 PM

OG, re sultanas, they are still dried up and in a box on the shelf :-)
Don't quite know about the always thinking mind though, its a bit fuzzy tonight with a head cold. :-(
Tassiedude, where on earth have you been ??
The battle of the sexes NEVER ends, don't you know that ???...........................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 10:38 PM

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 10:08 PM you go girl !!! number one watch out.................enjoy!......

Posted by: spanky668 at June 25, 2008 10:31 PM

OOOOhhhhh. I made a top 10 list. Think that's a first!. Woo Hoo !!!!!!!!!!!

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 10:08 PM

waterbombe at 8:24pm: You are so right. With our family income down at the official Henderson Poverty Line, we lived even more like church mice to put our 2 clever girls through the most academic Brisbane girls-only private high school (where my Ex had gone in the late 50s, and my own mother during WW1, as it happens.)

We wanted them to be able to blossom away from nobbling by learning-hazard class clowns/ bullies of either gender, in a place where most of the girls were pretty fair-dinkum, and they'd have to work very hard to make the top ten in their year. It was worth every sacrifice.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 10:06 PM

Adelaide Blog meeting

If anyone who has not yet contacted me regarding this, please contact me by email to get details.

Doug

Posted by: virgil at June 25, 2008 9:52 PM

And so it begins. Forget the wars of the past as they are indeed trivial compared to path we have chosen today. For as of tomorrow we begin the last war.There will be no winners, no losers and no survivors. The war of the sexes has begun.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 9:41 PM

Men in their 50's only date younger women, give it some thought dear.Posted by: murtajaz at June 25, 2008 8:35 PM
I did give it some thought murtajaz and you are completely wrong. Men in their 50's date younger women AND older women...I, like many women I know, mostly have had relationships with guys younger than me. Thats how it goes, Murty...you're wrong.

Posted by: waterbombe at June 25, 2008 9:41 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 8:42 PM
I also read (regularly) and enjoy your posts NW :-) - I especially enjoyed what you wrote about your mum - she sounds like she was a wonderful character and was genuinely loved by all.Thank you for sharing your precious memories of her. :-)

Kind regards
Jacqui (Miss P)

Posted by: misspriss01 at June 25, 2008 9:37 PM

Jane McGrath - Now she was a beautiful woman. In all senses of the word! And I think Glenn McGrath is surely a beautiful man.

Jen.

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 9:37 PM

Kaz,
Sultanas are sweet, thet have to be a special type and picked in their prime the book would not allow it to be different.
NW,
Any woman such as you describe your mother to be would have left a great trail of broken hearted suitors in her wake, I have similar memories of my mother, but have no doubt that I did not know of her private life , just the bits she chose to let me see. As is the wont of Ladies of her day.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 25, 2008 9:34 PM

Bravo Waterbombe!...Your the bombe!
nw

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 9:33 PM

Amanda
You have a good argument, that you are being picked on.
You seem to have to be defending yourself, to everyone, anyone who can stay with it, and not buckle under the pressure deserves admiration.
Its about time this blog was about something more than Amanda bashing.
Surely there are other fair minded people in blog land who think its about time Amanda got a fair go.
We have to behave better than a gang of bullies.

Posted by: virgil at June 25, 2008 9:27 PM

Back on topic (I think). Was at the doctors this arvo and reading a magazine. Quote in there said "Beauty is not defined by the masses, but by the opinion of the individual." (Rune Leknes).
Now she can either mean (I suppose) the opinion of the self-proclaimer of the beauty or the opinion an individual may have on anothers beauty.
Hmmmm - something to think about.
Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 9:23 PM

Amanda, l think that the needle needs to be changed on that record player of yours, it appears that it is stuck in a groove and repeating itself overandovernadover.....
Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 7:15 PM
People lie and deceive themselves constantly under the guise of positive reinforcement until a lie becomes the truth in their own mindset
Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 25, 2008 8:01 PM
To reply to this, may l just say that this is most definitely not what l was getting at in my post to Amanda. This small section of my previous post has been taken out of the context in which it was written.
My comments were directed at maybe not repeating and repeating the same things over again. How can any discussion move on if that keeps happening ??
Take a look back at the entries of today, if you can be bothered, to get my drift.....
I did and posted my comment to Amanda not a a criticism as such, more as a lets move on kind of thing.
The arguments were not going anywhere except deeper and deeper into the mire, where most arguments do tend to end up.
WB thanks for clarification of what l was getting at.........................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 9:19 PM

yah mule.
the Goebels dictum, say it long enough, loud enough and it becomes fact. then those who matter believe it.
Kaz, always, always the thinking mind.
Waterbombe@8.24 pm.
not so much about amanda, but your general comment of beauty an intelligence, it is very thought provocating, shows a different side to what you usually portray.
I think they then ignore the beauty side of the question and rely on the intellect, then the self esteem remains intact as I would hope it would be so for any young man in the same situation.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 25, 2008 9:19 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 8:42 PM I got the right person this time (with the right response too, bonus).......glad you did post......as much as looks might help someone gain that elusive first meeting, they never make up for a lack of substance (if there is one), and however that first meeting arises, hopefully that is all it takes to let that little bit of magic shine through (sounds like your mother had that down to an art)............I have said before, and will again, there is nothing like that sparkle in the eye to give a glimpse of who they are................Waterbombe 8:24pm, for me personally, I tend to self censor, I figure they probably have a contingent of good looking guys that are interested, and figure I am out of my league....I do talk to them, but not in a suitor sense.........perhaps this is one of the oft ignored downsides of beauty????? the perceived unattainability of it...therefore the lack of "offers" from genuine guys that are not only interested in the looks????? may be way off the mark.......certainly not a subject I can speak with any authority ......

Posted by: spanky668 at June 25, 2008 9:19 PM

Top Ten based on numbers of postings since this topic began:

Laughsandtalks 8
Troyohboy 9
Iaminperth 9
Naturalwoman08 13
jenniferhi 15
timewarp1 17
eatsrootsandleaves 23
ichthyology 23
woodnwine 24


And the winner:

Amandaongoldcoast 26

Posted by: sandpitstatistics at June 25, 2008 9:16 PM

ERAL - 6.02pm. Just had a look at it on YouTube.

No I don't take offence to that. Don't think it would ever hit TV of course. Actually had my 15 year old daughter watch it at the same time to discuss. As we do around here.
Isn't that what teenagers have been doing since time began? Lol.
Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 9:15 PM

Did I miss the part in my post where I was asking for approval from a man in order to validate my existance online.
If you see yourself as a "chubbychaser", I wouldnt want anything to do with you, even if you where hot, and you certainly are not... just to trade insults with you. Just because I choose not to flaunt my breasts but prefer my personaltiy to be my defining light... oh why am I bothering with morons.
I would rather be alone and happy than with someone with the combined intelligence and personality of a pea. (and thats an insult to the pea)

Posted by: bigheartedgal33 at June 25, 2008 9:11 PM

giddymule, ladies who are self assured and confident will always age like a well bodied robust drop of claret...........
Sour grapes just wither into sultanas...................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 9:09 PM

spanky668 at June 25, 2008 4:16 PM
lol....I am sure you are nothing like an himbicile....a humanisticile would be my guess...will get back to you later about your question spanky...just have to get my final papers together...cya ..nw

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 8:55 PM

kurli at June 25, 2008 3:50 PM
I believe that NW also had a thoughtful posting on this turbulent subject
oh thanks kurli...at least I know that you and spanky are reading my posts..(the only ones) lol..that's ok..and if they mean something to you..that's a plus...it took quite alot of courage for me to post that today...but I am proud of my mother..and she never harmed anyone by being herself...honesty was definately one of her policies...and she never made excuses for her life choices..
hugs..nw

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 8:42 PM

Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 25, 2008 8:08 PM ....see, you are an example of what I was talking about in my previous post...how insulting, not to say self-serving, was your post? . But I think you should get over yourself ... men don't age like a good wine, they age like a mushroom...they wither and finally the stalk can't stand up. It's a biological fact to which many women of my age can attest...so we look over the shoulder of you older guys to the more agile and firmer younger men. And before all the aging male bloggers jump up and down in horror at this "misandry" (ha ha), I am making a point to Mule... If you don't like this kind of talk, Mule, don't dish it out yourself.

Posted by: waterbombe at June 25, 2008 8:34 PM

When I said "What must it be like for the beautiful intelligent people, especially when they are young (I'm thinking of girls of 18+), to be treated like this? I wonder what THEY think of other people?" I meant to ask, I wonder what happens to their self esteem when they are treated like this? Does being ignored, left out, etc, actually diminish their self esteem?

Posted by: waterbombe at June 25, 2008 8:27 PM

I think Amanda is just fiesty and won't take an insult. I think the reason she keeps coming back is so many people, one by one, are having a go at her, so it looks like everyone else is being reasonable with their one or two comments and she isn't being reasonable by making so many comments. But to someone like me who hasn't been on the blogs for a few days, this situation does seem to be at least 10 against 1. That's pretty hard to take and it does make the 1 person defensive...we've all been there. It does get on your nerves when the blog goes on and on in one vein for ages, Auntykaz, I agree, so it seems a good time for EVERYONE not just Amanda to change direction.
As for beauty and intelligence, I was really interested in your comments, gcgymbuddy at June 25, 2008 11:20 AM . Both beauty and intelligence have genetic causes...we can't change either of them...you get what you get in the lottery of life. But there is no genetic link between intelligence and appearance. So it will be pretty random as to who gets to be beautiful AND intelligent, won't it? It's just an accident of birth, in a way. No one 'deserves' to be beautiful and intelligent, and logically also no one 'deserves' to be punished, neglected or ignored for being beautiful and intelligent...yet I found, when I was working with young people, that beautiful and intelligent girls were often treated with what I can only call jealousy by both women and men. They were ignored in conversation, left out of groups...they didn't get the attention you might imagine...instead they were often alone. The men were generally as silent as the women in their company. What must it be like for the beautiful intelligent people, especially when they are young (I'm thinking of girls of 18+), to be treated like this? I wonder what THEY think of other people?

Posted by: waterbombe at June 25, 2008 8:24 PM

Eastofcbd.....take heart. When I get a non-reply it doesn't faze me in the slightest. I'm actually quite grateful as it gives me an inkling as to their personality. I just wouldn't want to date a person who can't find 2 seconds to reply to someone who has just paid them a compliment. Not my type at all.

Posted by: graceandcharm at June 25, 2008 8:08 PM

Amanda you say you would never consider a man over 36
I have news for you - gravity will take its toll on your "large breasts" too the point they will hang so low people will think they are testicles
You will get a turkey neck and you will get cellulite and saddle bags
unless you spend 4 hours a day in the gym and have the strictest diet to stave off ageing and as you find us bastard males looking over your shoulder past you more often at the young nubiles behind you , then the penny will drop.
Deny it all you will but it will happen, you will not stay young forever, you will lusted after less and less as each year passes.

The more I read about your self promotion the more I consider the following adage applies to you

and that is

That men age like good wine and women age like milk

Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 25, 2008 8:08 PM

Posted by: murtajaz at June 25, 2008 6:11 PM, you wouldn't be able to afford me!!!! and My boss is great, doesn't complain when I work weekends and nights etc, which being a project manager, often happens!!!!
TW you were spot on, was waiting for my son, so logged on for 20 minutes or so, and was catching up on a day in blogland!!!!
have a lovely evening all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 25, 2008 8:02 PM

Amanda, l think that the needle needs to be changed on that record player of yours, it appears that it is stuck in a groove and repeating itself overandovernadover.....

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 7:15 PM

People lie and deceive themselves constantly under the guise of positive reinforcement until a lie becomes the truth in their own mindset

Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 25, 2008 8:01 PM

Tradieforalady, with eyes like that maybe you should send out a few kisses of your own, you never know you might get a good response. Had a peek and your profile is great.... The young Queensland girls should take a peek also.................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 8:00 PM

tradieforalady at June 25, 2008 6:50 PM . Unfortunatley I think you are right. I did and experiment a while ago and sent 10 kisses, my picture was visible and I didn't get 1 reply, positive or negative. Maybe I am just not that appealing. Time to become a born again virgin I think.

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 25, 2008 7:52 PM

Amanda, l think that the needle needs to be changed on that record player of yours, it appears that it is stuck in a groove and repeating itself overandovernadover.....
I think we all get that you are an attractive lady and someone who is happy within herself. Good for you to be at one with who you are. Do you need to continually tell us???....
More of the same will elicit more of the same.... Yet another record.
Maybe have a read back over todays posts in a detached way, as if you are new or maybe a lurker you may see what l mean.
Sage advice Greg ??? More chilli in this one l think.........K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 7:15 PM

i think alot of people are just on here for attention and an ego boost and not genuinely looking for someone... very sad

Posted by: tradieforalady at June 25, 2008 6:50 PM

merdejaz at 6.11pm: At 6.02pm she'd already clocked off and was killing time inside in the warm, till her lift home arrived. And reading up on your jewels of wisdom today, to enrich her waiting time.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 6:39 PM

Kurli june 25.3.50 pm,thanks for the recognition,at least someone understood the intelligence behind it, there are ways and means of getting your point across without having to sling mud directly,this has seriously been one of the most amusing blogs i have read since i joined this site.
Me thinks some of the people who are parents have forgotten a few skills,as in first thing with a naughty child is ignore it,my goodness...hahahahahaha...!!!!!!
Have not heard such petty squabbling since arguing over the orange play doh at pre school.....
Just remember the more you feed something the larger it grows...think about that...!!!!!!
In relation to my earlier blog...forget Stalingrad.....The Somme WW1 no winners just losers

Posted by: thetradey at June 25, 2008 6:22 PM

Don't any of you guys work? i have just jumped in...while still at work...waiting for the teenager to pick me up...and the blog has been going all day...I could share some of mine with you guys as I am flat out at this week...anyone have Telco and Project experience????? ewelsprojectmanagernothappy!!!!!!

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 25, 2008 6:02 PM

Jen - have you seen the fake/prank JC Penney ad ~ "Speed dressing"?
It actually just won a Cannes advertising award.

Is that offensive to you ? (Penney is in conniptions about it )

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 25, 2008 6:02 PM

Eleganteloquent....Go Girl top 100 again. Congratulations, your name says it all. Happy birthday for tomorrow.

TW @ 10.46... I've just googled Miss UK, give it a go, or have you already.

Amanda...You seem to be winding yourself up into an ever tightening spring. You need to step back and just breathe.... The more you bang your head against a brick wall (and there are a few), the more it hurts.

Posted by: maestrac at June 25, 2008 5:47 PM

Istj at some indeterminate time this morning (when you should have been working)

Amanda is just feisty..

The "males" on this blog are the end product of Anna Bligh's new proposed chemical treatment

Posted by: captainstarlight at June 25, 2008 5:35 PM

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 1:07 PM

Amanda, frankly I am confused. You say that you have a large chest but object to my terminology of "great bosom" I admit bosom is a rather old fashioned word but I find the general expression "big tits" rather offensive.

You also say many men dont like a large chest. That is not my generral experience of Australian males who do appreciate "big tits"

However, I could be completely mistaken about your large chest. Perhaps you were meaning that you have large lungs with which you take in voluminous amounts of air. This does accord with the fact that you do create a lot of hot wind in your posts.

Or perhaps you are a pirate and have a large chest of goodies although as I recall from my youth a pirate was usually a girl with a sunken chest.

I really have no interst in whatever sort of chest that you have. And no I do not feel inadequate. Unlike you I dont have to list out my accomplishments here but if I did they would actually exceed yours. Yes I can even match you as a beauty contest winner although that happend when I was a baby and I dont remember much about it.

Your intolerance of others will eventually cause you much angst and pain. I bear you no ill will, however, you have considerable learning to be done and some maturing.

TW offered you sound advice. Over some time in reading his posts I have come to admire the man and with his experience he makes valuable contributions even if sometimes a bit catankerously.

But no need to take any notice of TW. I do suggest you take notice of auntiekaz who stands back and makes sage advice.

Amanda, you are about the same age as one of my daughters and I say to you what I would asay to her. Develop some tolerance, let people judge you by your actions not your proclamations. rgds grego



Posted by: grego7 at June 25, 2008 5:10 PM

Have been having the odd peak at blogs but missed almost a whole week so that which I felt warranted comment is perhaps now old news so best left alone..

TW.. This is obviously history too but have to comment.. Sorry.. When I left the sandpit you and K were doing nicely.. What the hell happened??? Sorry, forgetting where I am, best you don't answer.. Do hope that you're both maybe just hiding and putting up a smoke screen.. Good luck to both of you..Whatever ok!!!

Cheers..."G"

Posted by: amdoingit at June 25, 2008 4:54 PM

Stop the presses ! - i think itchy and amanda have finally found their soil-mates (each other) .

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 25, 2008 4:33 PM

now that was funny tassiedude

Posted by: anewbeginningfor2 at June 25, 2008 4:28 PM

Himbocile gets my vote

Posted by: enrepres at June 25, 2008 4:24 PM

I also have to say.....................does noone think it is rude, bang out of order or just darn right nasty of people to attack someone and tell them they are ugly, to say the things that have been said?

If someone is proud of their appearance, their accomplishments and shared it with the room, only to be attacked and told she was ugly then had about 20 of the regular posters in here who are all freinds, one by one after the other tear into her also telling her she is ugly and arrogant when all she has in fact done is stood up whilst person after person was rude, nasty and attacked her personally?

Do you think thats right, does anyone actually think thats right?

Half of what I have been accused of I havent even said. Such as I never boasted or said I had great boobs.......................I was saying just as I dont like balding men, or older men...........I equally wouldnt be offended if a man said he didnt like blondes or women with larger chests (which I have).........I never once boasted, I never once advertised and I never once said they were even good, let alone great.

I just wonder, am I continuing to be on my own here? Is this room really full of just the gang of buddies who have been here for years and continue to band together and attack like vultures? I can understand, I am sure anyone who stood up to be counted as a decent human being who could just see how wrong this attack is (and still is keeping going even though I thought it was over)......however I also realise then that they would then be targetted by this band of people who really honestly clearly have no conscience in what they are doing (and also get the facts completely wrong and dont see the obvious).

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 4:24 PM

Well at least out of all of this we have achieved two new words which do have some relevance.

Bimbecile and Himbecile. The people for whom these words are msot applicable know who they are. rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at June 25, 2008 4:20 PM

Hahahahaha........Auntkaz. At least you werent nasty, so thanks for that even if you are again, having a go after another 20 of your clan have already done so (once one starts, you all do).

I hope you can realise one thing......when I am being attacked so much, of course when I am the only person to defend myself, of course I am going to do that.................can noone see that? Can noone see when people left right and centre are telling me I am ugly (yes someone used that ugly word), how they dont believe I was ever a model or beauty queen, how unattractive I am etc etc.....................do you really think I am going to go and crawl into a hole when people are doing that. Of course I am going to love myself, so these people will never have a chance to affect my soul, my heart and how I feel about myself.

I am sure someone in this room must be able to understand that is the reason I keep saying those things about myself over and over again........? To say up yours to those people who would be so cruel and vindictive (and yes pathetic).


Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 4:17 PM

TW, thx 4 the comment on the other place. A reply is there.
kurli...don't forget 2moro nite, with daughter in tow?
Sorry about intruding...this blog is going great now :)
Love the bimbecile and reckon aunty kaz gave a great one for the male equivalent, himbecile.

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 25, 2008 4:17 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 3:50 PM that was me being to quick with reponses, (was meant to be my contribution to WnW's call for thoughts) ........the irony, the freudian moment .....must have seen my reflection on the computer screen......cheers Himbicile668 (Catchy ; P)

Posted by: spanky668 at June 25, 2008 4:16 PM

kurli at 3.15: Glad to hear that.

What about the "best of kurli" - Himbocile?

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 3:58 PM

spanky668 at June 25, 2008 3:02 PM

Himbicile ????
that was auntykaz'z......
cheers

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 3:50 PM

thetradey@10.26 am )on the 24th
Riversong @10.56pm)
It proves to me yet again that personalities here are more worried about their persona and are neglecting reading the posts that show what others are thinking !....I believe that NW also had a thoughtful posting on this turbulent subject.Keep it up kids....at least some of us aren't cynical.
(And the crab skuttles back to her hidey-hole!)

Posted by: kurli at June 25, 2008 3:50 PM

It's been 'himbo' for donkey's years

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 25, 2008 3:40 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 12:28 PM sounds like quite a woman your mum.....but in part was what I meant.....those who possess that inate quality, the "Glint in the eye", may happen to be beautiful on the outside, but never rely on that to get them through life.........it is their inner beauty that really shines through....but those who get the attention based on aesthetics alone....they're the ones I meant.....................if I could also just say on the arbitrary nature of internet dating...as said by others in previous posts.....if a woman says she is looking for an athletic guy, and I describe myself as average (but she would say I was athletic), if I don't have a cigarette for 2 weeks, am I trying to quit or don't smoke, if they are an inch taller / shorter, or live 11 not 10 kms away????? our two way match won't match up, but does that mean we wouldn't be compatible.......it is an arbitrary, subjective way in which we search (how do I have an ideal partner description without knowing what it is till you find it).....best we have, but....sometimes wonder what passes us by based on our descriptions ........rambling again,...... ciao

Posted by: spanky668 at June 25, 2008 3:21 PM

Just been checking, and have counted 9 posts so far today from AOGC telling all and sundry yet again how great she is and how pathetic everyone else is.
Amanda, as some have said, how to win friends and influence people NOT.

Your self evaluation of your attributes is admirable, as the Whitney Houston song tells us "learning to love yourself is the greates love of all".
How about spreading a little of the love??.......................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 3:16 PM

TW@1.16.........I don't feel under attack by any stretch of your imagination......I just dont like the vitriol that so many dish out with abandon(Nice & COSY in my dugout :-)

Nw08@1.52: Two weeks until I hit the big 70 but am willing to party all month long
and grow older disgracefully.

Nw @1.59.......the term Himbo used to apply to cheesecake/muscle guys,so why not himbecile???

Ciao

Posted by: kurli at June 25, 2008 3:15 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 1:59 PM

Himbicile ????

Posted by: spanky668 at June 25, 2008 3:02 PM

Posted by: murtajaz at June 25, 2008 1:51 PM

Oh but murtajaz ..... which ones are the men and which ones are the women? That may be another question altogether.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 2:59 PM

WnW, would the obvious suffice ?? As in himbecile?

That is about the only thing worth commenting on here.
Everything else looks like WW3...........K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 25, 2008 2:44 PM

grego7 at 12:18pm: The new search-results format is not as bad as it looks.

You now get more mugshots on the same page - good.

You can still neglect the ones with looks that repel you, and

You can still see their 160-keystroke leading para, by clicking or was that just hovering over their photo.

All good, for mine.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 2:35 PM

Dillhunk? Jock? Borat?

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 2:21 PM

Person goes into a store to buy a Barbie doll for their daughter. All the Barbie dolls are $49.95 except one which is $249.95. When the person asks the store attendant as to why this is, the store attendant simply replies,"oh that divorced Barbie. Comes with Kens car, Kens House and Kens boat". :)
Simple humor.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 2:11 PM

not to be confused with... dohcile .. :( :)

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 2:02 PM

grego - I do like that word bimbecile, I'll have to try and remember it for an appropriate occassion. Maybe the women have a similar term for that type of man .... if not, let's take suggestions.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 1:20 PM

duh cile......!

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 1:59 PM

Hi kurli...good to see some 'Cancerians' back on the 'block'..blog.....so..when are we having our Cancerian birthday blog bash?...I think we need to 'lighten' up on here slightly?...I'll open it up for ideas?.....what do you think EE?
.. mine doesn't come up for a couple of weeks or so...when is yours kurli?...or anyone else's?..and after that.......it's Christmas in July!....oh stop!

oh...and kurli ..thanx for the invite to Redcliffe??.(.can't remember..as they closed the blog).. if I ever get up that way will definately take you up on it! x

cheers nw x

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 1:52 PM

grego - I do like that word bimbecile, I'll have to try and remember it for an appropriate occassion. Maybe the women have a similar term for that type of man .... if not, let's take suggestions.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 1:20 PM

kurli at 12.49pm: Hello again. Sorry you're still feeling under attack. Actually, I don't think you've been mentioned for days.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 1:16 PM

kurli - yes, agreed ... too much vindictive sledging. It actually makes work look more appealing and I would urge everyone to move back onto more interesting and helpful topics, as some are doing.

If someone has issues they would like to discuss (and maybe get some suggestions on), it is easier to do this without shouting and screaming abuse, whether justified or not. Just a thought.
Peaceinaconfusingworld
Woody

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 1:15 PM

Awesome reading people,........this is better than,HITLER...v's...STALIN..question is who will prevail with the better tactics,who has the armor and troops the reserve......
the tradey at June 25, 2008 12:16 PM

my money's on Amanda .........!

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 1:14 PM

Grego, again......seriously......pathetic.

Clearly feeling inadequate..........I mentioned I am successful, I mentioned I have a very attractive and incredibly brilliant wonderful guy in my life at the moment and I mentioned I am intelligent, that yes I get a lot of very handsome male attention and DID I ONCE SAY I HAD A GREAT BOSOM???? No I didnt, I said that I had a large chest and a lot of men dont like that.

If my honesty offends you and makes you feel inadequate...that is YOUR PROBLEM

It is however, nothing I should or deserve to be attacked for.

Honestly, check yourselves out.....how ridiculous and pathetic are you Greg and the rest of the lot who are being part of this ridiculous witch hunt

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 1:07 PM

Amanda@GC at 12.22pm "I have not advertised I have a large chest"

Amanda@GC at 8.24am: "...women with a large chest (which I have)........."

I'm yawning. Maybe I need a poppa-pause (male equivalent of nanna-nap.)

Next topic please friends! After I chop and eat lunch. Chicken salad with 6 veg. Stirred, not tossed.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 1:05 PM

Someone on the blogs termed the word bimbecile.

This is a most appropriate term for a person here who constantly tells us how beautiful she is, how financially strong she is, how intelligent she is and how successful with men she is, not to mention what a great bosom she has.

TW I agree with you she is no bimbo but I think she is most certainly a bimbecile. And worse a most boring bimbecile.
rgds grego

Posted by: grego7 at June 25, 2008 12:58 PM

woodnwine@11.08am .....I have been attempting not to add to the vitriol being spewed by so many on this blog....if personal agendas were ignored and others contained their verbosity, occasionally we might get some satisfactory conclusions instead of all the vindictive sledging.

Grego7@12.03.I agree with you re: EE.Small minds always attack that which is unattainable.Happy B'day for tomorrow EE
kurli (who's returning to her air raid shelter)

Posted by: kurli at June 25, 2008 12:49 PM

Thanks Troy at 11.24am. I was doing a serious demolition job, but then suddenly thought Marquis of Queensbury.

Like serving more slowly to Fiona at tennis last night. She's a drop-dead-gorgeous 40-something, but slow reflexes. Chivalry perhaps, or maybe just the lack of a killer instinct.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 12:43 PM

Marcus at 11.22am: No mate, not true. (But I wish...oh yes...just for one single leading-nowhere-at-all shared meal and chat, to enrich my life forever.)

My computer was down last weekend, and as the owner of about 50 nice shirts (that still fit me) and plenty of smalls, I wait till my laundry basket is full, before loading it into the ancient Laser and heading wherever.... Keep fishing, Marcustan.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 12:33 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 25, 2008 11:22 AM
Intelligence, I thought was an adjective reserved for people like Beethoven, Da Vinci, Shakespeare and Einstein.

I think the superlative your referring to, is 'Genius'.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 25, 2008 12:31 PM

I wonder if being just one in the crowd is something "beautiful" people learn the hard way if their looks start to fade.......
spanky668 at June 24, 2008 6:58 PM

Hi Spanky...I can only speak for my mother..it never seemed to bother her..(doesn't mean it doesn't bother me) lol...or her ability to attract men ..she never lacked the attention of 'suitable' men ..and men much younger than her..throughout her whole life.. her inner 'flirt'.. light.. beauty and charm were such an innate part of personality.. that it glowed like a beacon and men were attracted to her like the proverbial moths to a flame..and she had IT till the day she died..there was a certain 'glint' in her eye that never faded..particularly when there was a 'handsome' man around...her charm and femininity would blossom into full flight..and the men were captivated..it never bothered her that they may think her 'old'..because she never thought of herself as 'old'.. she loved men...and they loved her..she really did have that 'je ne sais quoi'..and she never lost her eye for a 'handsome ' man…ever...but she was nobody’s fool…petite..but a powerhouse..she was never 'attracted' to older men.. (unless they were very handsome)..somehow they cramped her style...she was far too sassy and independent for most of them... no man or woman..young or old were bored in her company.. she loved to talk and was such an entertaining and interesting story teller and conversationalist...and I think…
made every man think he was special....her european looks may have faded.. but her unique personality..humour..intelligence..wisdom and aliveness...became her 'beauty'..and she had such high self esteem and pride...nothing in life could take that away from her..not even aging..I am convinced that had she not been attractive..her unique personality would have sufficed..she remained attractive..romantic..charming..till the end..the only thing she lamented was that she had to die..
not long before she passed away..she said 'Life is Beautiful'..

so even though her 'beauty' faded..her spirit never did..but somehow her spirit made her appear beautiful..

she knew what she found 'attractive' in a man..yes..she was 'fussy'..knew what she liked and she would never compromise..and it was all to do with ‘attraction’ and the 'attractions' of the male..his character... never what they possessed...wealth..material possessions..status...never interested her..(as I said..she was unique)! lol.....my mother was only interested in the person :) nw x ..
apologies for the length..

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 25, 2008 12:28 PM

No Timewarp............my gentleman would actually think you guys were pathetic...........he would be proud of me for standing up for myself and all the other people you guys choose to bully daily.

I have not advertised I have a large chest........I merely said if a man said he didnt like women with large chests (which a lot of men dont) I wouldnt be so offended to start hurling personal insults.

I have never advertised my chest.............and only a really desperate ridiculous woman would go around showing it to attract men.........so no, I dont show it on my pictures as if I wanted to be just a sex object, I would make damn fine money doing it as a profession............but I dont

Honestly, you really are pathetic.......and I suggest you do move on from this subject.

Seriously.................you dont even see it...............and my man would not draw the conclusion you have..........he would make the oppoiste (that in fact you are wrong, you pick on everyone, you do this daily to different people and you will continue to do so then wonder why people come on here to wind you all up) Equally, any man who would think I was wrong here, clearly wouldnt have the decency, heart and intelligence to be with me anyway, so would happily walk away (which luckily he does)

You really again, should feel ashamed of yourself

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 12:22 PM

gcgymbuddy at 11:20am: Welcome to someone with something significant to say.

Couldn't agree more, except to say that when beautiful people are also high achievers, it may not be to combat low self-esteem.

It may be because of parental attitudes like the ones which helped my kids turn themselves into mega-achievers (don't let me start bragging,)

Attitudes that good looks are just irrelevant lucky genes - it's what you achieve that demonstrates your success.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 12:20 PM

The new RSVP search process in which the page is filled with many photos with just the persons moniker I believe will have a significant effect on how profiles should be constructed.

RSVP has become a beauty parade.

The emphasis now is on the photo ie the looks of the person . You no longer see their profile headline. So a clever headline will no longer grab attention because it cannot be seen.

If you have a hidden photo your profile looks totally dead.

Ones RSVP moniker is also now more critical in attracting attention as this is in effect the profile headline.

The effect of this search change is that one will almost certainly have to put in a very good lead photo.

Fortunately, I met my partner under the old search regimen. She had no photo but a great headline which got me reading the whole profile.

Karina, I think this change is a retrograde step.
rgds gregfo

Posted by: grego7 at June 25, 2008 12:18 PM

"Don't hate yourself for wanting to be beautiful"
Posted by Karina June 20, 2008 3:43 PM

I have to admit, i have wondered; what would it be like ?

As a comparative, there are those 'lucky' people that are born to great wealth (never worked, or will have to work for it ), and hence never experienced the fear of not having money. Everything, they have ever wanted, has been afforded them. Their entire lives, and their children's lives are,and will be financially secure.

As our fears tend to create our personalities, it gives them a delicious fearlessness that i find very enticing (unfortunately its not because they have great courage, but more like ignorance than anything ,and they know it and often feel very conflicted about it during their youth)

Often these people can't relate to those who worry about money their entire lives, counting every penny, due to deep seated fears about poverty. They want something - they go for it !

As they grow up, they find themselves being accused of being ignorant, greedy,shallow, and born with a silver spoon blah blah... . Lovers often only want them for their money ( they find out the hard way) and abuse them if they don't give it to them, so they become wary of any suitors without their own wealth.

Ultimately, they often decide that its just easier to be with their own kind. No status competition, no need to con, and no guilt trips.

Do physically beautiful people have the same experience?
Is it always better to be beautiful?
Is it easier to be with someone of your own attractiveness, in order to avoid conflict, rather than it just being about vanity?

(sofab ! - i'm beginning to sound like Carrie of S.I.T.C !)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 25, 2008 12:18 PM

Awesome reading people,........this is better than,HITLER...v's...STALIN.....circa@Stalingrad,
The question is who will prevail with the better tactics,who has the armor and troops in reserve,are the Generals getting battle weary...stay tuned for further news updates....

Posted by: thetradey at June 25, 2008 12:16 PM

ExMissWorld at 11.07am: " I am no bimbo"

Didn't say you were, ma'am. You're far too eloquently articulate to be just a bimbo.

It's just that I was really intrigued that you'd needed to trumpet here your past local success in one of those worldwide swimsuit and world peace competitions, and then to advertise here several times that you are very well-endowed between the armpits.

But you then confine that advertising to words, without the corroborating pictures that would prove that you have got some reality where your mouth is.

Sorry, it all just doesn't ring true to me. So in the absence of anything beyond your words to give them an ounce of credibility, I'll return your "pathetic" as an example of "whatyousay iswhatyouare" and move on to more interesting topics.

Try to quarantine your aggro to the blogs, ma'am, and don't let your young man see or hear it, or he may jump to the conclusions that some of us here have done. World peace and love.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 12:06 PM

EE,
Happy birthday for tomorrow. Hope all goes well for you.

Your top 100 photo is intersting because it shows how someone can look beautiful, sexy and sophisticated at the same time simply with a well posed photo.

Others (male and female) would do well to note how you have done your photos.

Unfortunately, the top 100 will bring out more of the losers contacting you. But just go slow... very slow. Any worthwhile guy will have patience. rgds greg


Posted by: grego7 at June 25, 2008 12:03 PM

I think we need to look at what these blog sites really are. They are fishing grounds. Throw a few words over the side and see who takes the bait. Sometimes you catch a big one other times nothing. Quite often it's fun, less messy and far more time consuming than the real deal.
But seriously;
Give the girl a break. We Aussies love to keep hoeing the boots in long after the fight has drawn it's conclusion.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 11:50 AM

Gee, I have to learn to type slower or pay more attention .... too many typos, sorry. Probably shouldn't blog between jobs anyway so back to work.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 11:30 AM

Woody, I'm starting to think RSVP have a couple of automatons, one a generic female the other male, who spew out the same formula stuff over and over in response to any blog. Just to keep things interesting. The tape's on about it's 15th loop at this point.

TW, you were going OK but lost it in the second half which then allows the standard response. You should have seen that coming haha.

Have a nice day whatever you are.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 25, 2008 11:24 AM

ISTJ54.
I've only seen your pictures but big eyes in relation to face size gives a 'baby animal' look that men find appealing, well me anyway....
You were recently accusing a couple of other bloggers of being intelligent. This superlative would have to be the most overused word on RSVP. Intelligence, I thought was an adjective reserved for people like Beethoven, Da Vinci, Shakespeare and Einstein.
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
Elephantsego. You sure your flyaway trip and blokely rejection was not a big smokescreen? I have a hunch you may have been with timewarp over the weekend. He was single and strangely quiet...And hasn't mentioned his washing since...
Just a thought.
Hmm Cheers MS

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 25, 2008 11:22 AM

I'm not really interested in the whole blog thing but this caught my eye. There has been a considerable body of research conducted that suggests (in simple terms) good looking people tend to be less educated and less skilled in most things due to the inherent laziness of human beings. This is a generalisation, but generalisations exist because the represent what typically occurs within the population. It has been found that attractive people will usually default to relying on their looks to "get by". There are a whole bunch of anthropological and Darwinian theories that explain this phenomenon.

As with anything, there are exceptions to what may typically be observed. There are well educated and skilled people who are attractive, but this often occurs among attractive people who have a lower self-esteem (in other words, they're not full of themselves).

Anyway, this topic has been researched in the fields of psychology and sociology. There is plenty to read on the topic. Hunt down the journal articles and have a read, it really is quite fascinating.

Just my 2c.

Posted by: gcgymbuddy at June 25, 2008 11:20 AM

Thankyou Tassiedude ~ I would actually write to you but am not buying stamps at the moment as am going on holidays soon.

I think you and I are on the same wave length in lots of areas. I hope you find someone very special, because someone deserves you in their life. And you deserve only the very best in your life.

"Let your clarity define you."

Jen xxx

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 11:13 AM

Yes timewarper, sometimes it's hard to hold your tongue isn't it? But some of us do, because there would be no real point in joining a pointless argument ... would there?

Sometimes hidden agendas poke their heads out to glimpse the light of day .... and to check what day it is.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 11:08 AM

Timewarp.............I am going to say two things, the first being:

PATHETIC

The second, I need say nothing more than when I say a man may not like a woman with a large chest and you reply with 'why dont you parade it around like some bunny girl'..............How much more offensive or sexist do you want to be? I am no bimbo old man, your old age rotten brain must have gotten you confused with your manners and so I will excuse you as I know you dont have all your bearings at that age.

Its pathetic, seriously guys...................you shuuld be ashamed of yourselves

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 11:07 AM

I think the real point is ..... define beautiful.

itchy .... to follow on from your long drawn bow about sexiness vs what is happening to/with children .... yes, I would rather my (step)daughter know how to be sexy (as in alluring, compassionate, sensative, intuitive, attentive) than to be seen as pandering to the traditional view of a "beautiful" woman/girl by wearing provacative/suggestive clothing, bucket loads of makeup, botoxed lips, heaps of bling etc.

Anyone who has been with a truly sexy woman will know what I mean. .... and it works the same for both sexes, I believe.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 11:00 AM

itchy - you just keep bumping into that damn wall .... don't you? And when you do, not content to have just walked into it .... you bang your head against it, repeatedly. Go easy on yourself old fellow or you might do permanent damage ..... and we wouldn't want that because every now and then you have a good idea and we wouldn't want to miss out on those little gems.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 10:54 AM

thanks guys i find reading your coments on this site more entertaining than reading the comics in the sunday papers. keep it up.

Posted by: anewbeginningfor2 at June 25, 2008 10:48 AM

ExMissWorld at 8.24am: "I would have had no offence if a man said he didnt like blondes personally, or he didnt like women with a large chest (which I have)........."

Ma'am, I have held my tongue about you so far (sometimes with difficulty), but now feel I need to ask you some questions - just for the record:

1) What beauty contest did you win ma'am, where and in what year? We need to know this first, to validate your claims of 3rd-party professional certification of your beauty.

2) Is it true ma'am that, like Jean Harlow, Jayne Mansfield and many other famous busty pin-up girls since, your blondeness comes out of a bottle? If not, I have to advise you that all your photos are quite misleading.

3) Does the generous size of your 'chest' result from having a very large ribcage (eg. from childhood asthma), or from your being unusually well-endowed in the mammary department?

If the latter, I'm amazed there isn't even a hint of thoracic convexity in any of your photos. You don't seem to be so modest in other ways, so I wonder why you've missed that opportunity to advertise two of your key assets, before they start to obey Gold Coast gravity?

4) You're 32, and just the thought of men over 36 gives you an attack of ageist terror, signalled in about every third post.

I'm twice that at 72 (but the hair on the top of my head has only thinned about 20% since my teens - all in the last 2 years, while turning from light brown to pepper-and-salt. So far.)

How would you feel if you caught my eye by mistake on the bus, and I smiled at you? Would you need to scream, get off at the next stop, and/or rush to the nearest blog?

5) My mother-in-law used to say that honey attracts more flies than vinegar. How much vinegar have you got left?

6) And finally, how many words a day do you believe you need to write, to keep you and the punters in unbroken contact?

7) Oh - I nearly forgot - are you actually real, or just a puppet, scriptwritten as a vehicle to vent someone's considerable excess aggro?
............................................................

I hope you will be able to reply to these questions soon, ma'am, because the thousands of eager readers in this place are hanging on your every word.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 10:46 AM

Ich......I am currently dating and yes, I am trying to get over my fears of dating (first intelligent thing anyone has even noticed, yes I am committment phobic, date phobic, relationship phobic........but am working on it and am fine and happy).

Apart from ISTJ of course.........who also spotted I am not arrogant at all and was of course, only defending higher than the people who were attacking.....so another intellient note.

Really shocked that some of the people on here who seemed so nice, so decent etc.......well behave the way they do. Noone owns this room, there is noone who has rights over it and there are a lot of people who have been attacked.....I have been watching, there is always someone getting it from the lot of you.

Take a look at yoruselves, some of yiou really need to have a couple of sleepless nights to make sure you have a conscience still

Hope it makes you feel good to bitch in my direction, hope it really makes you feel great to be nasty to someone.............honestly..............I pity people who have to put others down to make themselves feel good.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 10:46 AM

aichthyologyz.........interesting viewpoint hehe.

Posted by: troyohboy at June 25, 2008 10:41 AM

To Jen.
Just as a sign of friendship and respect. (I know the reply's are limited. If you want to maintain your percentage just click on anything. I'll accept it as a sign of the same).
You truly are a beautiful person.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 25, 2008 10:39 AM

iaminperth..............what is your problem?
Methinks you need to get off your butt and go out side for a while or watch the comedy channel for a week to get your sense of humour back along with thebat from hell who is still hanging off the branches of the RSVP tree and amanda........try dating and actually getting over your fears.

Istj54.......... same old same old...........get out of your mental rutt.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 25, 2008 10:29 AM

eral @ 8.16pm

An eductaed guess.

amandaongoldcoast @ various

Be careful your rhetoric is beginning to grate.

Estelle

Posted by: enrepres at June 25, 2008 10:26 AM

Shame, shame Shame, ………….I have followed this debate on the sexing of our children and watched the hypocrisy of some of the bloggers on this site.
Sex Appeal, is more important than good look??
Is this what women are telling their young girls? If a father said this to his young daughters he would end up in goal on corruption charges.

No wonder some of my dates are freaky.

I have had women usually European say openly to me ‘you arrre a vvverrryyy sexxxy man’

I get it, they want me in bed as quick as possible, forget the looks and the fact that I am athletic and carrying 6kg extra weight in my stomach and on my face….they just want to bonk their brains out.
After their 3rd climax and while I was lying in the hospital bed having my 3rd bypass, I had a little time to think.
Where was all this coming from ???? It was coming from their moms ,their mom’s showed them how not to behave, how to flaunt their assets, how to dress and undress and the little women had this etched into their minds from a very early age……………..that is how you get a guy . don’t mind the dirty old men, who want you, the cops will put them in goal,just concentrate your efforts on some one around your own age give or take 10 years.
Typical example on a recent date.
A slim Asian attractive, looked like a little girl with breast.

Her complaint………..’I want bigger breasts……my bum is too small’

Huh!!! Where did she get this from? …..I reckon she must have had the wrong language coach or maybe things are different in China.

If you are worrying about what is happening to our children and why, then you do not have to look too far.
We have two or maybe three laws in this country when it comes to corrupting the young.

If you are a woman then it is okay.
If you are a man we will goal you.
If you are in advertising or the Arts do what you want.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 25, 2008 10:21 AM

Iam inperth.........I am a silly woman? Good lord...............says the cowardly woman bitching behind her computer.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 9:52 AM

Posted by: captainstarlight at June 24, 2008 6:53 PM...captain, I agree, but people can tend to gloss over the meanness of spirit that goes on here each day...in my daily life attractive people/children can be constantly put down by the less attractive as though it is okay. It's a bit like racism or any other ism...looksism...I'm constantly put down for being small by taller women who make not so funny remarks all the time...but think it's okay...not really.

Posted by: istj54 at June 25, 2008 9:49 AM

amanda and eloquent, you are both extremely attractive......and intelligent......and feisty women.....and older, less attractive men just can't really deal with those attributes all rolled into one woman. They see it as threatening and will always try to bring you down...ignore and ignore and ignore...by fighting them back...they score points....in their heads...cos you start to sound conceited...which I don't think you are...but anyways...congrats on no 1, EE...and I know you have not sent out 300 kisses to get there...the trolls just don't really know.

Posted by: istj54 at June 25, 2008 9:40 AM

Bit like Itchy with his red Number plates. "I got big red number plates" like duuuuh !!!!

Posted by: iaminperth at June 25, 2008 9:31 AM

Amanda, It just depends on how silly you want to make yourself look.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 25, 2008 9:29 AM

Amanda, Any older woman can cart around a younger guy, they are called 'toy boys' you silly woman.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 25, 2008 9:29 AM

I think a few people are legends in their own mind. Amanda and Itchy would be ideally suited to each other. The union would be a superb meeting of two minds and don't two halves make a whole.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 25, 2008 9:27 AM

jenniferhi at 6:59am: I was found by someone who proved to be exactly my dreamgirl, but after 3 blissful weeks with her, she changed her mind and called it off. Can happen, and you've got to be philosophical about it. All documented in the blue-hat/Mr Right blog.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 9:19 AM

Morror, mirror on the wall.
Who's the fairest of them all?

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 9:07 AM

Some good points are being made here. It seems that good looks will only buy you a few minutes, after that, you better have some interesting atributes.

But I guess the question is...are good looks the only attention grabber that someone can have?? or is there someone other way to grabs someone attention??
Its a bit like the old show-biz saying...."any publicity is good publicity"

Posted by: good4laugh at June 25, 2008 9:04 AM

EE, congratulations on the number one spot again. I am not an inverted snob and I celebrate your position as number one goddess....................be proud, dont shy away as those less fortunate feel aggreived by it.

Happy birthday for tomorrow too.

My point all along has been.....................everyone should think they are beautiful, everyone should think they are great..................as the only person you can rely on truly when it all boils down is yourself to pat you on the back and tell you how great you are. No one person has the right to attack someone else for that.

People can have opinions, like I said, I wouldnt be offended if a man said I wasnt his type, or he didnt lke blondes...........just as I have said I dont like men older than me, baldies, too skinny bony men, or bigger built men etc etc...................however, there is no way on earth I believe attacking someone personally is ever acceptable (although I did in retalition after getting grief ALL ON MY OWN whilst about 5 of you childish rats attacked me at once).

Cowardly, I think thats what the best word is to describe a lot of you on here..........pack rats, who prey on people, pick someone ouit and act like vermin.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 8:49 AM

eloquent - happy birthday for tomorrow, I hope you get something nice.

amanda - unfortunately, your posts are no longer interesting or worth reading so I'll no longer comment to you or respond to your retorts. I'm not being nasty, I just don't find your barrage of complaints interesting.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 8:48 AM

Amanda on the gold coast, ahh the home of Warwick Capper.

Itchy scratchy have either of you been here before with different names?

Maybe, maybe not, just saying the attitudes and comments sound similar to others that have come before.

To me a beautiful person is one who after years of being together, you get a real delight to see coming home.

Posted by: virgil at June 25, 2008 8:46 AM

Oh good lord....its like the playground.....high fiving someone for putting someone down.

Come on, you are older than my grrandfather....I would expect better than that.

Well maybe not, nothing has changed here, same people thinking they own the blog, always have to be feeding on someone like a pack of wolves. Singling someone out and high fiving each other for snidy nasty little comments, trying to intimidate the others.

Well bring it on schooyard oldies....I am here and I am sticking around and no matter how you get together.....I wont back down and wimp away.

Honestly, you people should be ashamed of yourselves

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 8:33 AM

OK, I know, I am number one in the top 100 today, and they have aged me by a year a day early as my birthday is not until tomorrow....so does beauty have costs? Don't know but it appears that being 'popular' on rsvp does, judging by all the aggression I have received on this blog regarding my being in the top 100. So I might as well enjoy the day, away from here, as this is my third time in just over a month, at number 1....so I guess that makes me some kind of monster to at least one disturbed mind on here.....I'm off to do some rsvp-ing. Have a good fighting day folks.

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 25, 2008 8:32 AM

Yaahmule.........if you want to think that, then you have every right about yourself being so much fitter than everyone else around your age. Thats your call, up to you...........Unlike others, I dont spend time making direct personal attacks and I wont directly tell you whether I think you are fit or not. I will however, say generally I would never date a man over 36, I would never date a man who is losing or lost his hair etc etc, those things I dont find attractive.

My point is and yes I will make it. I would have had no offence if a man said he didnt like blondes personally, or he didnt like women with a large chest (which I have).........however, to actively call me ugly, to go out and make such bitchy comments....no I wont let these schoolyard coffin stalkers get away with that (sorry Jen, that is NOT insecurity, its standing up for myself and letting no man have say over my opinion of myself.........all women are entitled to be as beautiful as they want to feel and no man will have the right to call anyone ugly and get away wtih it unscathed).

Anyone, male or female has a right to be as beautiful as they want to see themlsevs as...........not one person has a right to say otherwise...............just as my opinion on yaahmules fitness, really I wouldnt do such a thing.............he is allowed to be as confident as he wants about that and if it happens to be at a detriment to who he is pursuing versus who he actually can get, then that really is his business and not mine.

I always thought that men were going downhill, I presumed that decency, manners, courtesy and heart were being lost in men of my age and it was you oldeer guys who had all that. Now I see how lucky I am and how great men in my own age group actually are after hearing your behaviour.

One of my favourite parts of a movie was in the Little Princess............where she said to the girl in the attic 'all girls are a princess'.............damn right we are, every single one and if I want to think I am the best woman on the face of this earth......it does noone any harm but I will love myself and not rely on old man has been (or never been) bitter twisted pigs like some of the men on here for validation.

Oh and woodnwine, I dont have a target audience. I was coming on here as I enjoyed the conversation in the blogs..........however I will not and never will ever back down when someone picks a fight and I will never ever back down to bullies and people who are outrightly wrong

I realise you guys are all a lovely little clique and I am new to this, so of course, I am going to be the one attacked by you all as wrong as the others may be but personally, I dont give a stuff and will speak my mind

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 8:24 AM

timewarper - do you have some bad news? If so, I missed that too, but then I do tend to be a bit of a skimmer these days (as opposed to a scammer).

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 8:23 AM

Very well summed up jenneferhi @ 7.59am.

yahhmule - interesting comment about athletic ..... compared to what?

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 8:22 AM

LOOK IN THE MIRROR.....none of you have a right to pick fault with any of the women in here or pick at weight

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 7:08 AM

Are you so sure of this that no men have the right ?

I will add my part by saying I am yet to come across a woman in my age group ( lets say plus or minus 10 years )who could be considered to be in equivalent fitness.

Yet so many claim to be athletic - but herein is the problem -- athletic compared to what benchmark ?

Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 25, 2008 8:02 AM

Coffin stalking? What the? Amanda to me your posts are screaming an insecurity in yourself. It seems you want constant confirmation that you are a beautiful woman. Why not just enjoy the wonderful man in your life at the moment? Let him affirm your beauty.

You are an attractive woman, no question about that, but some of the words coming from you are not displaying an attractive person.

A quote I got from a life coach many years ago, and I attempt to live by it ~ "What other people think of me is none of my business."

Be true to yourself. Live authentically. The more hurtful the words you put out, the more that will fly back. What goes around comes around. We do all know that.

You definitely are a feisty little thing, that's for sure.

Have a good day all.


Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 7:59 AM

itchy - just when I thought you'd turned a corner and were starting to make some sense, you walked straight into the wall. Maybe you should open your eyes?

amanda - why don't you just give it a break for a while ... this clearly isn't the way to make friends or influence people. Even if you are attractive (I don't know) you are not portreying yourself as beautiful. Maybe you do have an axe to grind, but why grind it like this in front of your target audience? If I was someone who read the blogs but didn't contribute and was considering sending you a kiss (which I'm not BTW) guess what? A different approach may just reap better results ..........

Posted by: woodnwine at June 25, 2008 7:54 AM

A word to the men who keep bitching at me abou tthe way I look. Firstly, its clearly evident the older the men get, the more childish, nasty, bitter, insecure and generally pathetic (in most cases, please accept my apologies to the real decent gents in the forum). To be perfectly frank, I know I am very attractive, I know I am very sexy and I know I attract a lot of attention and interest from very good looking men of mid twenties to mid thirties (my age range) and am currently dating an absolutely wonderful, gorgeously handsome, inspirational, true gentleman who some of you could learn a lesson from about decency and how to be a real man.

I wont worry about coffin stalking unattractive, bitchy insecure little men making digs at me. I know I am attractive and so do you guys, or you wouldnt be crowing the way you are.

Some of you men really really should show more respect than you do. I was shocked to read something about 'chubby chasers'...........I mean for gods sake guys, LOOK IN THE MIRROR..............beauty is not just a womans thing, you are spending all this time judging beautiy to be about women, looks are only relevant to you about women.................LOOK IN THE MIRROR.....none of you have a right to pick fault with any of the women in here or pick at weight again looking at most of you.

Some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves................................but I rather pity you instead.

Bighearted, be who you are, know you are beautiful and be proud of yourself for exactly who you are......................your way out of said mans league in many a way, so that comment.........ignore it.........its just bitchy ridiculous pathetic waffle and shouldnt even be given the courtesy of acknowledgement by you. If you have a lot to say, then say it......the right man will appreciate you for it.

Honestly, who the hell would ever want some of these guys? They just reek of insecurity and bitterness.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 25, 2008 7:08 AM

What happened Timewarp? Did I miss some posts somewhere? I'm sorry to hear that. And a bit saddened. Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 25, 2008 6:59 AM

bigheartedgal33 June 24, 2008 9:22 PM
I've been a chubbychaser and my assesment is it's the lack of boobs causing the disinterest, not your "fat arse".
Hips to waist to bust ratio unfortunately is a key male attention grabber.
Profile is well executed and interesting but I reckon many would 'speed read' it because it is so long.

Jenniferhigh.
Parents have to take the bulk of the blame for the sexualising of kids. They OK and fund the purchases and activities and by and large have veto power over much of younger kids activities. Stop buying the products problems disappear.

Anyone who 'normal' grieves for more than about 2 years does usually need treatment. I know someone who didn't recover and broke down years after her son (and my best friend) was killed in a prang. Another person whose fiance was killed in the same accident eventually had treatment for post traumatic stress before making a comeback.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 25, 2008 3:31 AM

istj54 at 6:49pm: "I think that sex appeal can be more important than beauty..."

I agree. I told my daughters that good looks (which both had in different versions - an agile graceful slim petite blonde singer/dancer, and a big curvacious brunette violinist) are only useful to make them want to come into range for a closer look. Then personality is needed - (sex appeal if you will, istj) - to keep them hanging around you - if they're the kind that you'd want anyway.

The superficial ones that you don't want, only want the package, to use for a trophy and/or blow-up doll, so beauty is enough for them. They think it is sex appeal.

bigheartedgal33 at 9:22pm: Pity you're not in my age range. You were talking about the pictures and words in your profile.

This is how I search, within my demographic (and yes friends, I've just changed more than my target age range and my profile headline, after my recent adventures and learnings.)

1) Look at photo. If it'd give you nightmares across the breakfast table, "Next."

But if it's not hideous, I remember my Mum's advice when I was 18: "Look for a girl with a figure that you lust after, and a plain enough face to keep her humble."

2) Check for my personal veto factors - mainly smokers, heavy drinkers, still married because only separated so far, taller than me (blokes can be heightist, not only chicks) and/or illiterate. If so, cull.

3) Read the profile very carefully like a CV. Which it is.

LI look for hints of intelligence, articulate self-expression, unselfishness, active lifestyle (most of all I need a physical activity partner in my sunset years), playfulness and tactility. (I preer a girl who needs to braille your back for moles. Several times a day.)

4) When in doubt, send kiss, and check in even more detail at date. The worst she can do is block you instead of saying Get Lost, in answer to your kiss.

Must get back to some of that, now that my status has reverted to recycled single. Night all.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 25, 2008 12:13 AM

grego72
Who made you commander in charge of the girl squad ?

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 11:49 PM

Junebaby....i hope you enjoyed those young pups.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 11:47 PM

"The next 60 year that sends me a kiss will most likely push me over the."
Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 24, 2008 5:33 PM
Was that a dare� I just had to kiss The Man� lets see where is pushes him.

Itchyscratchy (now known as �the rash�) again a huge generalisation. ALL WOMEN LIE. Is that just about their sexual conquests or all women lie all the time. If it is just about their conquests I don�t think you would call not wanting to boast lying. You see we don�t have to keep feeding our egos, discretion is the best part of valour, and we don�t kiss and tell. Well not often anyway, sometimes the story is just too funny and it has to be shared with sisters.

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 24, 2008 11:43 PM

Outer beauty is both a blessing and a curse. Yes, it can make someone more popular with men etc, but often with the wrong men, and for the wrong reasons.

Some of the most outwardly beautiful women have the most turbulent relationships, whereas some plainer ones are truly loved for just being themselves. Men project a lot of crazy stuff onto beautiful women, then blame them for not measuring up when their humanness starts cracks through.

Jenniferhi 23 June you nailed it - so very shallow - it?s inner beauty that counts. Thelyndairy - beautiful poem. If someone really cares for something, whether a very shabby old teddy bear, an old wonky dog, or a perfectly (imperfect) human person, it IS beautiful in their eyes. Our task as we journey through life is to gracefully surrender outer beauty for a more enduring inner kind, and to recognize it in others.

Time Tested Beauty Tips:

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.

For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.

For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.

For beautiful hair, let a child run his or her fingers through it once a day.

For poise, walk with the knowledge you'll never walk alone.

People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed;

Never throw out anybody.

Remember, If you ever need a helping hand, you'll find one at the end of your arm.

As you grow older, you will discover that you have two hands,
one for helping yourself,
the other for helping others.

The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears,
the figure that she carries,
or the way she combs her hair.

The beauty of a woman must be seen from in her eyes,
because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides.

The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mole,
but true beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul.

It is the caring that she lovingly gives,
the passion that she shows,
and the beauty of a woman with passing years only grows!

--Sam Levenson

Posted by: riversong01 at June 24, 2008 10:56 PM

Poor itchy, the photos are less then a month old and my attitude lives in the here and now...and you are one sick puppy who cant figure that maybe rsvp is kocher and works well....and someone can be in this loverly top 100 for a long time and be an ok person which is why people keep making contact...but you will never know that because you are a champion bloggerhorror...and worth no more of my finger time except the one i am putting up to you now...good luck bigtime loser...YOU certainly need it...can't wait to see what pathetic return you make which is bound to make me LOL

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 24, 2008 10:33 PM

itchyscratchy, as I said I didn't and I still don't look at the top 100. RSVP do not tell you that you are in it...so tell me, how would I know unless I get told????

I have replied to every kiss and email, good or bad.

I did answer the young guys and got into converstaion with a few, went to msn with a few, (most taled about sex very quickly) then I went out with 2 x 39 year olds and got myself a toy boy for 3 months, he was 31. The main motive was fun, sex with out committment...which was fine at the time. That was all I wanted at that time.
It also helped me work out what I do want in my life...so the experience was not wasted. I believe that you are always learning in this life and I learnt a lot about myself. I have tried to portray/explain/write about myself as honestly as possible in my current profile description.

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 24, 2008 10:27 PM

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 8:03 PM

ichy, what is your problem, mate? There is no need to spill your bile all over the place here.

If you cant be at least civil Go home and play with yourself. grego

Posted by: grego7 at June 24, 2008 10:16 PM

( i hear you K - just let me close, ok ?)
Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 9:22 PM


ERAL, if this is to me, go right ahead dear.
Good comments AND a social conscience, l tell you not too many guys would post those thoughts.
Come to think of it, they may not think them either...
Some are more interested in being flies.............K


Posted by: auntykaz at June 24, 2008 10:15 PM

Posted by: bigheartedgal33 at June 24, 2008 9:22 PM I agree..... I said in one of my earliest posts that the problem I have is getting my personality out there as it is more one for witty rejoinders than rehearsed monologues......I guess the hard part is finding a way to differentiate yourself from the crowd, and (as much as you can in 1800 characters) get a bit of that personality across in your profile........not an easy feat....lord knows I am still trying to no avail.............Unfortunately it is the nature of the beast that the photo will influence (at least in part) whether we pursue contact with someone..........it is not all defining, but it will play a part.............having said that, there is sometimes the fact that the similarities in two profiles are superficial, and the differences are the deeper, more important qualities......wanting kids...or not.........I don't pretend t have all the answers, just a few scattered thoughts that , unfortunately, I am all too willing to share....... it's not that there isn't a guy there for you...just that you haven't met him yet.........good luck in your search

Posted by: spanky668 at June 24, 2008 9:55 PM

ERAL - My post at 9.26pm was meant for your post at 8.45pm.

I'm not saying I have it tough. I'm saying all parents have it tough in this day and age. But of course I am not in any way comparing the struggles as a parent here to that going on in other parts of the world.

I care deeply about our neighbours and in particular the developing world. And interesting you bring up the underwear thing, because I have actually been involved with sending underwear and similar to orphanages in Africa. If only those corporate giants cared and were shown to be doing some ethical good for the world.

I always will do what I think is right. I agree with you there. And that is all we really can do. And I hope like you for a better world.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 9:49 PM

around, under and over (wink), Jen
and out.
G'nite Blogville,

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 9:49 PM

Nice car O natural One.
I have relatives in the Barossa

I didn't realise I was coming across touchy.more itchy scratchy.
I just fed the cat though.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 9:47 PM

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 8:03 PM

ichy, what is your problem, mate? There is no need to spill your bile all over the place here.

If you cant be at least civil Go home and play with yourself. grego

Posted by: grego7 at June 24, 2008 9:43 PM

Now just hang on there a minute Junebaby.
Did you reply to the young guys ??????
Even in the negative ???? HUh !!!
You openly admit you were getting a lot of contacts from unusual sources.....I mean to say ...a 'friend' told you...come on .you would have known what was happening.
I guess I could set up a few of my mates and cousins to send me some kisses and that might get me up there , but why would one bother?
You have to ask what is the motive of the person who is persistantly on the top 100 ?

I refuse to believe you are all innocent little pups with not enough brains between you to start a bushfire.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 9:42 PM

Nice work ERAL. I'll just put it down to a slight difference of opinion.
Peace

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 24, 2008 9:41 PM

you're a bit touchy..itchy...was 'up?

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 9:37 PM

Oh ERAL - Geez you'd be good around a dinner table. Good retort. I have to give you that. Smiling here. Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 9:26 PM

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 8:17 PM

Marx, and his eastern bloc 'comrades', taught me about all i need to know about 'freedumb'...oink oink

It's not my place to guess.
Just be grateful you have it.

However, if you truly believe you have it tough - then know there are many men, and women in the world, that would happily have your daughter in a black gown, from head to toe, for her entire public life, and unfortunately there are as nearly as many mothers that would have sold her innocence, for a months rent, and enough rice to feed the family for a week.

The fact that your child has underwear is a luxury many mothers can't even afford their children. Let alone worry what it says on them. ( i hear you K - just let me close, ok ?)

Do what you think is right, and hope for the best, like the rest of us.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 9:22 PM

Face facts people, we are simply a photo and words on a page in this medium, and no one will ever change that. I have never been in the top 100, as I cannot even get the guys I send kisses to to even do my the courtesy of rejecting me in response. We think ourselves beautiful, but we are all judged by others for the way we look, not who we are.

At least I know it's my fat arse theat men don't like and not my intelligence thats scared the shit out of them, cause they don't get close enough to know I actually have a brain anyway.

Posted by: bigheartedgal33 at June 24, 2008 9:22 PM

ok...the top 100. during March /April 2008. I landed in the top 100 a few times...but I did not know I was there, because I don't ever check the top 100. Blogger friends who know me outside the blogs would tell me I was there.

I recieved about 2-4 kisses a day a few emails a day and lots of people viewed my profile in those 2 months. Like others have said, the kisses were from a lot of guys that were way to young for me, so those guys may have been looking for Toy Boy fun!! I had some from married men, some from guys who seemed nice, but only wanted friends with benefits, some guys were too old...and I am not old yet!!!!

I then worked out that you can control whether you appear in the top 100 or not....so I turned it off in my account details. Sooo no more fuss.

now itchyscratchy, this is the absolute truth...and where do you get off telling other bloggers that may have been on the top 100 that they have lied about thier experiences. You do not know so...basically...pull your head in!!!!!!!!

Have a lovely evening all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 24, 2008 9:15 PM

Amanda - I've been reading your posts with widening eyes and a sense of deja vu. Aren't you the blogger who got into a bit of a cat-fight one night, many moons ago, with another blogger? It left those who witnessed it agog (back in the days when we posted in real-time). That was very entertaining, much as you are being now. It also taught me a new insult. 'Swamp Donkey'. I've never forgotten it. I try to insert into conversations wherever I can.

Nothing much has changed, it seems.

Posted by: ninaschen at June 24, 2008 8:53 PM

Jeez 't-dude' ,
I give up - peace love and mungbeans man .
(but heres to all the punks, sharpies, rockers, skinheads, gangstaz, even you hippies etc.. who would never of happened if that damned Armstrong hadn't landed on the moon, and Elvis hadn't been allowed to shake,rattled and roll those devilish hips )

Get real 'dude'
OK?

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 8:45 PM

lovesprozac at June 24, 2008 8:03 PM

So. Why did you remove your photo?

Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 24, 2008 8:33 PM

ERAL 3.55pm. If we don't blame the messenger just who do we blame? Do tell. Are you saying it is all in the parenting? Because I can tell you it certainly is not.

As for your point about the Church and its dogma, I couldn't agree more. Or the stance they take on contraception. But best not get onto that at the moment. lol.

It's not a matter of being scared at what we think we see. We actually are seeing the results.

I actually don't give a fig about what is appealing to the masses. I care about what is happening to the children. Our children and the world's children. Just what are we breeding?

Yes, freedom is good.
But just how much?
I believe there has to be limits.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 8:17 PM

Posted by: enrepres at June 24, 2008 10:55 AM

Estelle, do you know her?
(she looks much younger to me, but thats tricky to tell these days, especially 'beauty' models)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 8:16 PM

cutesmile52 at 5:54 PM: you wrote "to know why someone is on the top 100 shouldnt you ask the managent of rsvp?"

Yes, I've checked HELP and this is what I get: The Top 100 is generated on a daily basis and is determined by a number of factors, including: the amount of contacts members have sent/received and replied to, having a visible photo and having the "Top 100" feature is enabled.

However, when I first joined and I had a visible photo, I received about 25 kisses in the first day and replied to them all. The next day I received about another 25 and one email. Yet, I DID NOT make the Top 100!?

Ever since then, I tended to assume those people on there must be getting more than 25 kisses a day. That's why it puzzles me that someone can be on there for five months and still be getting more than 25 kisses today? What else could I assume? That's why I find it interesting to know the real truth which I'm learning now.

Please don't ask me why I removed my photo. The answer involves need for privacy and need to make my own choices.

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 24, 2008 8:03 PM

My apology Miss Gold Coast.
My barb was directed at Miss Inelequent/lacking elegance top 100 loser.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 8:03 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but is there not a switch that puts the top 100 on or off. I seem to remember putting it to the off position, I see (the little I watch, enough of the plastic people on TV). so I do not need their antics on this site.

Woody, not like you to get stroppy, then again cannot say I blame you.

Yah, go you cats and dogs, I hate peace, lol.
Cheers OG.

Posted by: oldergent at June 24, 2008 8:01 PM

Hi jen
Just asked my eleven year old nephew what he thought about all the sex and the stuff he sees today. He said"Its horrible but I wont grow up like that". Maybe there is hope after all however I still remain pessimistic. I also asked my parents about life in the sixties. A time when people left money out for the milk man, didn't need to lock their homes and didn't have to lock the doors to their cars. . They never herd of teenage rape, people being bashed to death and it was reasonably safe to let your children walk home from school. I really don't know I guess time will tell.
"Freedom is scary, but its also exiting". Tell it to all the parents who's children have been affected by violent crimes.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 24, 2008 7:59 PM

Dear Miss Gold Coast you grieved for 10 years ????? no wonder you have a problem with meeting men.
Seems you are still living in the past along with your old photos and wretched attitude.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 7:50 PM

jenniferhi at 1:56pm: OK, I'll buy in. We had a boy who died in his teens, then a girl born 1968 and another born 1975. Our younger readers will relate to those ages.

My ex is a rather severe primary/ remedial teacher, now taking a year off work to finish off her distance-learning Ph.D, and then planning to teach another 3 years till 70. She is the daughter and granddaughter of prominent Qld. school-teachers.

Like my mother (a nurse) they all believed very strongly that children should be trained/ socialised / enculturated/ indoctrinated by their parents, to avoid them picking up "inferior" ideas, attitudes and behaviours from other children or adults. Catch 'em young and train 'em for lifetime excellence. And never ever weaken on that parental duty.

Possible playmates (and their parents) were screened for good behaviour and civilised values. So were TV programmes in Dec/Jan. (We rented a TV then each year - rest of the year, both parents and children had homework, chores and playing, to fill up their time. Play not watch, and get some air into your lungs. )

Scooby Doo was banned after one episode, because it suggested that being a "gutless wimpy worm" was OK and funny. (Dog and owner with beginnings of a beard were both equally and exhaustively condemned.)

When one daughter about half way up primary school wanted her ears pierced "like everyone else," her mother smiled sweetly, opened her mouth wide and did her famous merino impression. "Baaaa." Which meant "NO WAY IN THE WIDE WIDE WORLD, DARLIN' DAUGHTER DEAR."

They had hair-on-a-spindle Chrissy dolls and Skipper, Barbie's titless 'little sister' "Dolls are practice for motherhood, not ( disparaged) wifehood. They must apper to be younger than the child."

So the first problem we had was No 1 daughter having 3 quick white wines at 15 at the cast party after 42nd St (she was a chorus-line hoofer) and then kneeling at the throne for a long time after I collected her at 12.30am and brought her home.

Then younger daughter at 16 forbidding her stodgy mother from coming to her girls highschool Fashion Parade Extravaganza, because she was in the cast and was going to determinedly shake her boody in the "ridiculous" Miss Myer fringed-leather jacket and short skirt cowgirl outfit that I'd bought her for her 16th.

(It had been her final selection during the only day I ever took her shopping without her mother - we trawled every boutique in Queen St so she could try on every trollopy outfit in her size without her mother's caustic comments, until I had a stale-air/doof doof headache, and we had to stop for coffee and cake. A lovely togetherness day, of which there were so few.)

Lookit the time - I'm late for tennis. Seeyez.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 24, 2008 7:46 PM

iSJT54 What a load of codswallop, I think they call what you have foot and mouth disease or is it dementia ???

How do I get onto the top 100

The top 100 is generated on a daily basis and is determined by a number of factors

The amount of contacts a member has sent and received and replied to :

Having a visible photo

The top 100 feature is enabled.

Next thing you will be telling us all that you have never had two profiles going at the same time ??

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 7:46 PM

just check out these blogs.it's the same old same old sitting at their computers at the ordained hour of the day or night and facing off with friend or foe over a glass of wine or coffee without the fear of being punched in the nose,it becomes a part of their life and becomes addictive to the point that the cat probably died from starvation a week ago.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 6:43 PM

I'Il pay that.
(here kitty kitty ....kitty?)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 7:31 PM

becomes addictive to the point that the cat probably died from starvation a week ago.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 6:43 PM..

I can't stop laughing....thanks for reminding me...just fed the dog...and best I cook dinner..chow down now....nw

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 7:23 PM

eastofcbd at June 24, 2008 3:29 PM
Didn�t do my ego any harm when they finished off with �you are still hot�

How gorgeous!...there are gizzillions of women over 50 who are still Hot!...some even 'hotter' than when they were younger... confidence..independence..intelligence..
inner strength and beauty..that certain je ne sais quoi....in my language spell aphrodisiac.....ofcourse that applies to some of zer men also...non?

maybe we don't all speak the same language..but we can have fun trying to learn?? nw x

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 7:14 PM

You need to deal with your grieving elsewhere ichthyology, instead of venting your anger at people on here who are genuinely sharing...and looking. I lost my husband over ten years ago and waited until 8 or 9 months ago before looking again (it was horrific circumstances in a road accident, so complicated, hence so long). I needed to grieve to get ready. You dont give people a chance, you are so full of venom towards others. I now feel very, very sorry for you.

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 24, 2008 7:13 PM

Careful itchy or you may just start making "some" sense ..... and I'm sure that's not what you want.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 24, 2008 7:06 PM

"The next 60 year that sends me a kiss will most likely push me over the."
Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 24, 2008 5:33 PM

Maybe over the .....
moon

Posted by: woodnwine at June 24, 2008 7:01 PM

"The next 60 year that sends me a kiss will most likely push me over the."
Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 24, 2008 5:33 PM

Over the? ........
Limit
Finish line
Alter
Legal limit
Quota
Hill


Posted by: woodnwine at June 24, 2008 6:59 PM

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 1:29 PM

Lucky you, I didn't even have it once (well maybe once.... I think it was a Tuesday,...lol). I like the analogy though and think that one of the things about being "average" (speaking for me, not you) is that you don't think about whether someones attraction is ephemeral in nature, a passing fancy....generally when they find you "attractive" they have gotten to know the personality that is you, which plays a major part in lasting attraction...... I wonder if being just one in the crowd is something "beautiful" people learn the hard way if their looks start to fade........anyway, play the hand you're dealt what I always say.......there is plenty room for everyone.

Posted by: spanky668 at June 24, 2008 6:58 PM

I just want to say that what Zimbia said on these blogs a few days ago was the most obscene comment I have ever read on this site.

I don�t care whether it is a he, a she or an it. What he/she/it wrote was an obscenity and a disgrace.

Posted by: captainstarlight at June 24, 2008 6:53 PM

I'm usually in the top 100 but never send out any kisses...I get a couple most days, but some days none, but still remain in...mystery to me...doesn't mean a thing...itchy just has a thing against women in the top 100 and to think that he has lunched with some...at least they now know what he thought of them:))

I think that sex appeal can be more important than beauty...

Posted by: istj54 at June 24, 2008 6:49 PM

cutesmile52..........I have some bad news for you .the only reason you won't be here in 4 years is if you leave willingly and by yourself.
When i first started here it was 12 months after the death of my wife and I was told to use it as therapy to move on and use it as motivation.
Well, i sat here looking for another 12 months and then cast my hat into the ring for about a year and a half.
In that 2 and a half years i have seen the same pretty faces going round and they are still here and still looking,
What has happened in the meanwhile is, they have become a part of the system and no longer want long term relationships and have learnt that they can have as many short term relationships as they like which probably considering their age is in complete contrast to how they lived their lives when they were young.
With little or no contraception it was a risky business swapping partners and many took to marriage like a pregnant duck and this life after divorce is now a 'Shirly Valentine' experience for them and that is the way it will remain.

just check out these blogs.it's the same old same old sitting at their computers at the ordained hour of the day or night and facing off with friend or foe over a glass of wine or coffee without the fear of being punched in the nose,it becomes a part of their life and becomes addictive to the point that the cat probably died from starvation a week ago.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 6:43 PM

go troy .... there is always too much bitchiness on here and unfounded accusations abound. But why? OK, some people are just stirring but again I ask ... why? What is the purpose ..... because it isn't even funny. Many people on here discuss things intelligently and interrestingly and are well worth reading but others ..... come on, get a life.

It sort of puts a whole different slant on the word beauty, doesn't it? Maybe we should be seperating attractiveness from beauty as it seems there can be no assumed link between the two.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 24, 2008 6:43 PM

malsie at June 24, 2008 12:18 PM
When there is something real to commiserate with I'm sympathetic. RSVP is full of disapointments and rejection; and I've caused, and had, my fair share. What I criticise is an ambulance called for a romantic stubbed toe and the 3 deep level of sycophancy and cog sugging accompanying the commiserating.

I dated a local lady 4 years ago who was number 1 in the rankings several times here. By her own admission ******** was probably the biggest bread roll on RSVP.

I have never looked at the top 100 in almost 9 years .

Spanky. I'm not looking for a suitor. I am a suitor.

Haha Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 24, 2008 6:39 PM

Graceandcharm........without giving you too much information and exposing myself as a cross dresser, lets just say , I have done my research thoroughly and first hand, and my figures are accurate.
The other point that should be mentioned is this .............i am flying in the face of a number of people who claim they were on the top 100 with little or no effort.
My opinion is , they are liars...............all women are liars...............that is a fact.
men will tell you their relationship count when asked and it is either spot on or you can divide it by two.
Women, by their nature conceal and protect.whatever they say choose a number between 2 and 5 and multiply what you have been told.

By their own admittance most don't want to be thought of as cheap or whatever and will never reveal an accurate head count or tell you that they often get physically involved after one or two dates.
I have heard it all before and from people I have dated who say they don't fall into the one night stand mentality only to do an about face when confronted with an over powering desire to bed me...........shameless behaviour considering I am only in it for the research.

Oh and Miss england/gold coast all I can say is it must have been a bad year in britain for beauty queens.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 6:31 PM

"I would just like to point out and I hope most of the more intelligent did see what I was doing, making a point, that men should never bring a womans confdience down and that I really am not as arrogant as I sounded by any stretch, I was merely proviing a point and standing my ground, that no man should ever be able to get the better of a womans confidence and self esteem (and too often do)."

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 12:33 PM

amanda - I have nothing against you, why would I, but don't you think you are being just a little hypocritical?

Posted by: woodnwine at June 24, 2008 6:30 PM

can anyone tell me why a man who looks older than you will be interested in a chick younger than you?

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 24, 2008 6:06 PM

eastofcbd....
naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 1:29 PM. Yo have written an anthem for all the once outwardly beautiful women over 50 at June 24, 2008 3:29 PM.....

I am so glad you read it that way eastofcbd..it was intended to speak on behalf of anyone who related to it..including men....self perceptions are not exclusive to women ..we all bleed........nw x

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 5:54 PM

to know why someone is on the top 100 shouldnt you ask the managent of rsvp?

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 24, 2008 5:54 PM

someone asked how I came to be in the top 100 (in two different age groups)

I have received 63 kisses and 7 emails in about 16 days I believe

The next 60 year that sends me a kiss will most likely push me over the.

Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 24, 2008 5:33 PM

Cripes, Marcus you really are on a roll today honey........
Take a bit of polish off the terminology though, you may get booted off the island for a while........

Jenniferhi, l bought my daughter Barbie dolls when she was young, all the girls wanted their very own Barbie to play with.
I remember as a girl myself l was given a Chrissie doll for Christmas, you pushed a button in her tummy, l think, and pulled her hair out like a pony tail.
Just part of being a little girl, l guess and playing dress ups as well. That is what kids do still l would imagine, not having young children myself anymore.
Boys did the usual Tonka Truck and TMNT stuff, as well as racecars and helicopters.

ERAL, give our kids the chance to play without guilt, to enjoy themselves.

That others do not have that opportunity does not mean that those who do should feel constantly guilty at the life they lead does it ??
Teaching our children compassion is part of rearing healthy well balanced and hopefully sensible young ones to live a good life.
However they choose their path................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 24, 2008 4:49 PM

Thank you for the shared experiences from bloggers who have been part of the Top 100 (past or present). If I had known I could have asked about the Top 100 before on these blogs, I would have already.

By the way if anyone knows of other blogs on this site where the discussion has turned to the Top 100 in detail, please let me know what the month/year or name of the blog so I can pop round and read it. Thanks.

If anyone else wants to share their experience with regards to being on the Top 100, please feel free to share your experience. It's riveting reading for some reason.*

I'm more interested in hearing from people who have been in the Top 100: why they are there, basically.

I'm not too keen to listen to people who are still hurting and so have a need to talk about their painful unhealed ulcers that a member of the Top 100 gave them (metaphorically speaking, of course).

I have a few of these stories, myself. But I'll spare you the details. Basically, when someone on the Top 100 (or not) rejects your kiss, it hurts. Simple. No need to dwell, curse, rant and rave. Get over it.

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 24, 2008 4:37 PM

let alone 9 years!

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 24, 2008 4:29 PM

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 2:03 PM

Wow ichthyology, that is one amazing viewpoint.....!! Just interested to know where you got those facts from, certainly food for thought........until then, a barge pole for now !

As for physical beauty, I have an exquisitely beautiful female friend, and a very beautiful sister.....and it does get them places, and favours, and friends, and employment. You can just see the look in stranger's eyes when they see them, it's like "wow". Maybe that's just human nature in operation.
But some of my most "beautiful" female friends are unattractive/large on the outside, but just gorgeous on the inside. That to me is beauty too. Beauty that will last.

Alice2u (formerly graceandcharm)

Posted by: graceandcharm at June 24, 2008 4:17 PM

eatsrootsandleaves3:55pm:
"Freedom is scary,but its also exciting.
So is dating."
Rock on! Very quotable...

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 24, 2008 4:09 PM

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 1:56 PM

Sure Jen - i'm sure you have a point about my choice to forego parenthood (I do have cousins and friends with families), coloring my, as well as your opinion (yep, we all have them) of sociology and the whole so-called nature/nurture controversy.

However, i think blaming the messenger (TV,radio,games,movies, books, internet etc) is just too easy.

And quite honestly, the messages these companies use to sell products (that their market research depts tell them we want) are probably no worse than the dogma pushed on children by those medieval religions of yesterday.

I clearly remember being forced to do participate in public school Catholic scripture classes during my infancy, that or face punishment for disobeying their cultural norm of believing in THEIR GOD.

This same organization is today continuing to spread false beliefs , and is currently stopping people from using condoms in Africa/China - two countries were AIDS is rampant.

Fashions change Jen; but we can't allow ourselves to start point bones at shadows, just because we are scared of what we think we see (monsters), or when we see what we were once taught, is now becoming made redundant and no longer appealing to the masses.

Freedom is scary,but its also exciting.
So is dating.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 3:55 PM

Marcus @ 2.39 pm
Thanks for your response. I take your point and would agree a romantic liaison, for example, gone wrong, is nowhere near as devastating as say one's partner dying.
For me, though, I don't see there as being a limited amount of "caring" or compassion, such that you have to save it all for the "big" stuff, without having a little empathy for the minutaie of which everyone's lives are made up.

For that, though, you have to feel that empathy in the first place, and if someone doesn't have it, then that's just how it is.
(That's a general comment - not specifically directed to you.)

Posted by: malsie at June 24, 2008 3:36 PM

naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 1:29 PM. Yo have written an anthem for all the once outwardly beautiful women over 50. Our once slim and soft bodies show the signs of childbirth and gravity, our once smooth and lineless faces show the character and laughter lines we have earned over the years, We were wives, mothers, nurturers and carers, now is the time be finaly be ourselves. I, like you, am proud when told I am a beautiful person on the inside. I really like being me at last
At a recent family function my 2 sons were required to give a speech, I was so proud to hear them describe their feelings for me. Didn’t do my ego any harm when they finished off with “you are still hot”
Are there advantages to being beautiful… of course there are but beauty on the inside lasts forever.
Guys… just substitute a few words cause there are a lot of beautiful men as well.

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 24, 2008 3:29 PM

i would hate to be on rsvp for four years....shouldnt take that long to work ...give me less than a year and im off....

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 24, 2008 3:13 PM

hi lovemuzik...i was number one on the top 100 once i received 4 kisses and one email that day...since then ive been in the top 100 except for the last weekend when i received no emails...i usually get 2-3 kisses and the occasional email a day...i send kisses out too by the way...i get kisses also from 20 somethings and some guys who wont show me a picture which i will discount immediately...i have also had emails from guys who send me their phone number and when i call them they pretend they are not that interested...could it be my accent you think? some find my accent very attractive... well im me and im happy with myself so the search continues...maybe im still here because im taking my time with all this...

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 24, 2008 2:08 PM

We are not talking about dress-ups here ERAL! We are talking about day to day clothing. And undies with provacative messages. Dress-up is dress-up. That's make believe, and children so need that in their life. We have lost so much of that now. Kids must be so confused.

Oh, and yes I will drive you to distraction if I must. Laughing here.

But seriously, I am not taking away from the (other) issues you talk about. I am involved with those too. And care deeply about it. I actually care more about Poverty than the issue at hand at the moment. But since we are on this topic I just want to get my feelings out about it. Ok?

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 2:07 PM

Lovemuzic in answer to your question about the top 100 this is how it operates.

If you are a man and you send out any number of kisses a day and then get 8 positive replies and keep it going for three days until you have received around 30 contacts back and forth you will be in the top 100.
As for the ladies (and I use that term loosely) this will show you what these pretenders are up to.

You need about 20 to 30 kisses and replies within a 24 hour period.
Yes that is right the women need about three times the reply rate of the men to get in the top 100.
Any woman who reckons they can’t meet a guy or find a decent guy when they are doing all this work are doing nothing but playing the system and the poor men who they have no intention of ever dating.

You see, you do not even have to go on a date, you can take all the kisses and emails you can encourage out of prospective clients just to boost your flagging ego , and clearly most of those who have been in the top 100 need more than an ego boost, I reckon a good flogging might be in order.
Like you, I treat the top 100 with a barge pole.and a lot of protection., just in case I unwittingly date one.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 2:03 PM

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 12:33 PM

My my, you do love these stereotypes and generalisations.

One hardly proves a point, whatever the point was you were attempting to prove, by degrading others looks whilst crowing your self-perceived beauty. If you think you are a good sort that's great however are you so self absorbed you think I care? This is a blog, I have no intention of ever meeting you or having any sort of relationship with you ( you feel the same I'm sure). You might, I think, spend a little more time reading and a lot less time petulently attacking any male out of your demographic. There are several bloggers here, male and female, who construct an argument or debate a topic intelligently much better than I and, mostly, without abuse. Read some of their stuff and you may learn about the construction of a reasoned line of expression. Who they are is obvious if you take the time look outward instead of inward for a change.

Anyhow, enough of the tit for tat, I went down that path on here once before with someone who was a far more effective writer than yourself and ended up saying things I Iater much regretted. Whilst you could not get me to that point I'll leave it there. But you knock yourself out if you wish.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 24, 2008 2:01 PM

ERAL & Marcus - you can get on the defensive of it all, and that is all very well. But maybe you would see things in quite a different way if you had children.

Your own words ERAL "Sex sells." Yes that is true, but just who are we selling it to?
And at what cost?

If you had kids I think you would understand a lot more. It's so damn hard being a parent as it is without all this additional stuff we have to put up with.

Maybe I better get off this bandwagon, hey?
Some topics I am pretty passionate about though. Guess you might have guessed that. lol.

Come on some of you others though, I want to hear some more views.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 1:56 PM

Before i'm accused of actively endorsing the sexualization of youth, (fyi i already had a educational collection of Ribald magz @ the 'innocent' age of 12 )
I DON'T !

I am coming from a place where 1/2 the world doesn't even have clean drinking water, 2/3 never even used a telephone, and millions of parents and children are dying annually of AIDS, and poverty etc ...
But you want to stir me to distraction about Kmart selling bras for 5 year olds? ( didn't you ever dress-up - to be a grown up ?)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 1:31 PM

I was 'beautiful' once on the outside...and beautiful on the inside..now I have faded into 'attractive' on the outside…...but still beautiful on the inside....I believe ..that will never fade… and as my 'attractiveness' fades and my face begins to resemble a map of my life ..for me .. hearing that I am a beautiful person means more to me and sustains my perception of my true self more than any comments about my 'beauty' ever did…..nw

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at June 24, 2008 1:29 PM

Thanks for that Lynath. I saw that program also, and have seen Catherine Lumby interviewed a number of times. She really does astound me sometimes in light of her having young children herself.

I also wanted to say similar re boys. Of course we have to be concerned about what boys are subjected too as well. God, those Lynx ads make me cringe. Look what a woman will do for me if I use this. Yeah right! But yeah maybe that is right. Girls think they must perform in those ways just because a guy is cute, and she wants to be seen with him. We have to give our girls (and boys) much better life skills and self-worth to conteract all this bombardment of 'image.'

Oh and Marcus I am not saying this is new at all. I've been outraged by it for ages and like I said have written about it before. Having 3 teenagers, I can tell you it's bloody hard getting through it all, and can only feel for people with younger ones than mine, because it seems it's only getting worse, not better.

Although I do notice they have cut back on all the media advertising to young kids re junk food, and hooray for that, but now we have to take this next step. But for goodness sake, how did we ever get to let it go as far as it has.

Think about those massive billboards for some mens shoe company. Everything so in the face of our young. Hit them where it hurts with the dollar. Don't buy their product.

Must say I was pretty pleased with the message Pink was getting out there about those "Stupid girls". How right!

Barbie - Yes I had a Barbie ERAL. Still got her in fact. (and in the original box.)
And maybe you could be right in the fact, perhaps it all started there. Not sure on that. I just saw her as a cute doll to play with but don't remember having any grand illusions about being her or looking like her.

Today we have 'real' people our kids want to be like. That's the big problem.

You might think it is all a storm in a tea cup but I certainly do not. And that doesn't mean I don't care about 'other' big issues in the world. I have my focus on other things as well.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 1:27 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 10:05 AM

OOPS ! (...now how did that happen ?)
I meant :
timewarp1 at June 24, 2008 1:12 AM

NOT:
Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 10:53 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 12:46 PM

eleganteloquent what do they have in common?
A good plastic surgeon perhaps, and/or access to the best photoshop airbrush technician?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and one thing we should be doing is counteracting the idealised ,false, images of "unattainable in real life 'beauty' which appears in magazines and movies.
It is these images which are making lives miserable. They are not real and yet people strive to be like that and become unhappy with themselves when they can't.
This causes self doubt and low self esteem andpoor body image,which in turn lead to realtionship problems.

There is a problem with the current sexualisation of children. I saw that 60 minutes interview and Catherine Lumby's input, There was a program called Difference fo Opinion which aired in Sept,2007 ABC on this subject. Afterwards there was a messageboard (which although closed can still be read) in which a lot of outrage was directed towards Catherine Lumby with calls for her resignation from the media post she holds and influences.The subject fo boys was addressed there as well Marcus, as they are affected equally by this issue.

Doesn't matter what a person looks like or who else thinks they are beautiful or handsome, a relationship will never be right unless there is two way attraction. And when there is physical attaction it can die very quickly if the personality is not also attractive.
One memory of my childhood was my father often playing on the piano a haunting Irish love song to my mother.

Believe me if all those
Endearing young charms
Which I gaze on so fondly today
Were to change by tomorrow
And fleet in my arms,
Like fairy gifts fading away
Though would'st still be adored
As this moment thou art
Let thy loveliness fade as it will
And around the dear ruin
Each wish of my heart
Would entwine itself
Verdantly still.

It is not while beauty
And youth are thine own
And thy cheeks
Unprofaned by a tear
That the ferver and faith
Of a soul can be known
To which time will but
Make thee more dear
No the heart that has truly loved
Never forgets
But as truly loves
On to the close
As the sunflower turns
On her god when he sets
The same look which
She'd turned when he rose

Posted by: thelynathdiary at June 24, 2008 12:34 PM

EE, thanks for explaining your experience with being in the top 100.

lovemuzik, I too have found it daunting when I've realised someone I'm in contact with is in there - as in with so many people to choose from, I've got no chance now, sort of thing. I did mention it to one of these guys - that I felt a bit intimidated by it, especially not really understanding what it took to be in there - and he said he didn't know he was, and it didn't mean anything much other than perhaps he managed to write a good profile.... (although I think there was definitely more to him than that!)
He certainly didn't seem to think it meant he'd "got it made" or anything. As you say, you've still got to find someone out of all the contacts that you feel is appropriate for you.

Posted by: malsie at June 24, 2008 12:34 PM

Of course Troy, you havent gone off at all. Afterall, you men just get better at everything with age, better looking, better at sport, better at getting women half your age, better just in every way. Us women unfortunately are all cursed with just becoming saggy, undesirable and owning of 12 cats and smelling of urine.

(Insert laughter here).

I would just like to point out and I hope most of the more intelligent did see what I was doing, making a point, that men should never bring a womans confdience down and that I really am not as arrogant as I sounded by any stretch, I was merely proviing a point and standing my ground, that no man should ever be able to get the better of a womans confidence and self esteem (and too often do).

I really am not that full of myself at all......but I had to stand up and stand my ground.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 12:33 PM

ichthyology at June 24, 2008 9:14 AM

You are scratching that itch quite vehemently.
There are anti fungal creams that can help with your condition.

Posted by: enrepres at June 24, 2008 12:30 PM

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 24, 2008 11:47 AM
I remember the days when I made it to the top 100, was even #1 for a day. I thought whoopee... this is going to be so easy to find a partner. WRONG
Like you EE most were too young, too old, too married and just too wrong.
Why am I stiil here? Like EE says

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 24, 2008 12:27 PM

CoughsandSquawks misology, misogyny and misinformation.....are these really ways of making the top 100.........hollow victory I would have thought.....especially considering it is out there for the world to see, and judge........comments such as "three first corner crashes".....at least they qualified for the race and are having a go....it is what we (at least most) are here for........differing views add colour to the topics, and while some views may differ to our own, I don't think cynical comments will do anything for anyone.....much less your own standing in the eyes of potential suitors.................lastly, to suggest that boys may "find themselves in 'perpetrator' situations because of the medias sexualisation of young girls is only playing into the hands of sexual predators.....there is no excuse...it is a decision they make, and not one made by the victim........again, my thoughts, take them or leave them.....

Posted by: spanky668 at June 24, 2008 12:26 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 24, 2008 11:05 AM

Hey Marcus, I don't think we Gold Coasters should be labelled because of a blow in like mandy. She would be the same 'charmer' she is no matter where she lived.

Well must fly, off to get a spray tan and have my 'bling' polished hehe.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 24, 2008 12:25 PM

Thanks EE - that's made my day :)

Marcus, you mention something about people "congratulating then commiserating". Are you suggesting there's anything wrong with that - as in being a person who's concerned for another person's welfare; sharing their happiness, and encouraging them when they're down?? To me, that's one of the nicest parts of humanity. Maybe you didn't mean anything negative by it. Just wondering.

Posted by: malsie at June 24, 2008 12:18 PM

First of all Top 100 - I got on there once. Woo Hoo.! Big deal. The day I was on was a day I got two emails and a few peeks. What the? Who gives a toss. I have no clue how they work it out either. And the day I got on surely must have been a very quiet day in RSVP land. lol.

I do agree with you luvmuzik 11.02am I kind of think the same if a guy is on there, there's probably a lot of playing going on. hmmmm.

Have a look at a lot of the profile names on the most popular women. sexy this, sexy that, 181, honey this, honey that, just keep an eye on the sort of names that obviously get lots of lookers. Think it says a lot.

My point of view of course.

Will get back to you ERAL and Marcus re the other sideline on this topic.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 12:17 PM

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 9:44 AM

Ah Mandy, what a crack up, good on you! Just keep telling us how good you are. You really must do something with your photo's however as they obviously do you no justice.
I was state seeded in tennis as a junior and played A grade for many years. Flat out hitting the ball now. Sometimes you go off as you get older....not me of course.....I'm sensational hahaha.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 24, 2008 12:17 PM

laughsandtalks at June 24. 2008 11:05 AM

I have been living in SE Queensland for the last 3 years and find the people up here to be no more or less egotisticle than those down south. I guess the exception would be some Mexicans and part time Templestowe/Noosa folk. I would say that Queenslanders are more down to earth than most southerners. Probably due to the lifestyle. Just a little bit slower and you gotta love the balmy nights, icy cold beer and beautiful sunsets over the ocean.
Generalisation is always dangerous.

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 24, 2008 12:13 PM

Hi lovemuzik,
Re the top 100, I get on average 5 kisses a day, a few emails, and heaps of people looking (I am rsvip so can check). I have no idea how it works but the first day that I put up my current profile, which was a recent Friday, I had so many kisses that by 4pm guys were emailing me directly to say that they could not send a kiss because I had reached my full quota for the day (and I didn't even know there was one). That day I entered the top 100 but very low. A couple of days later, far fewer kisses, etc, I as number 1, so it obviously isn't just on the numbers that contact. I need to make it clear that I am posting this to answer your query, not to say anything about myself. This is just stating facts.
Being in the top 100 isn't as great as people think. Today I have had kisses from guys in their 20s, married men, and one ok guy. Selectivity is still what counts, and why am I still on here (having been on rsvp since about September last year, all up)? Because I haven't found the right man, and there can be only one.
And I don't think the top 100 has anything to do with being beautiful either, just being 'popular' according to what is said. Surely we all write our profiles to try and attract interest? I spend lots of times interacting via emails, chats, and phone conversations and people want to date me because they say they find me a nice person....but I have to visually and with the written word attract them first, don't we all?
I hope that answers your query lovemuzik.

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 24, 2008 11:47 AM

timewarp1 at June 24, 2008 1:12 AM

Wonderful post. Lot's of positive responses.
I always enjoy your posts.

Estelle

Posted by: enrepres at June 24, 2008 11:29 AM

I've just read your posting TW. Thank you, and you are right of course, and I know it. Regarding the blog, beauty is something that people recognise alomost objectively, but seems to have little in common, eg, what do Kylie, Angelina Jolie, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Cameron Diaz, Norah Jones, and Cate Blanchett have in common with regard to features? Hard to say, but they are all beautiful. Then there are people who are just amazingly beautiful, make the room glow when they walk into it, fill up the air with their laughter, their gentle look can make you feel totally like jello, and maybe they don't actually look in features like any ot the above-mentioned but undoubtedly they are beautiful. Some of the women who post to here (those I have looked at, I could say all of the women) are noteably beautiful such as malsie, perth, cutesmiles, and kurli (and probably others, ERAL is s stunningly beautiful male) yet they bare little in common regarding features. Beauty is instantly recognisable, and also is, paradoxically totally in the eye of the beholder....and there is nothing so beautiful as a beautiful person and they are the greatest joy to find and to discover more and more about. That is the kind of beauty I love to be around. I'll keep aiming for the winners TW. Thanks once again.

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 24, 2008 11:15 AM

Timewarp quote: Because your multi-faceted excellence makes them feel worse still about themselves. Why do you think Marcus is always trying to shoot you and our other superfemmes down all the time?

Hear hear mate, that plus 'Sour grapes' syndrome.

Fishytales -- so tell, what do you have to do to make the top 100?

Posted by: mandible60 at June 24, 2008 11:07 AM

Dunno about all the beautiful people in SE Queensland, but in Melbourne pride still comes before a fall.
SEQ appears to have a collection of massive egos, vacant vaginas, 'chests', pendulus penii, substantial superannuants, agony uncles and beauty queens all trumpeting their next mating moves, sharing plaudits, mutually and "modestly"; congratulating then commiserating.
Then blaming anyone within a 3000Km radius for their conspicuous failures or even lack of success.
#####################################

Jenniferhigh. I saw a bit of the 60 Minutes thing on Sunday night; very female focussed. Concern about the sexualisation of girls has been around for at least 20 years so it is hardly new and certainly not discovered by a TV show. What about some attention to the effects on boys, who unfortunately find themselves in what may be 'perpetrator' situations later because of this?
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 24, 2008 11:05 AM

Someone mentioned the Top 100. Yes, let's talk about that, why don't we? Seems like such an exclusive club. How many kisses a day does one have to RECEIVE or SEND to make the Top 100? Can you get on the Top 100 with just kisses on your Mailbox or is it imperative that you have a few emails in there too?

I don't know why, but if I find a profile that I'm interested in, then discover he's in the Top 100, it puts me off. I can't help but feel he's busy fighting girls off him.

What puzzles me the post is two men I've had my eye on. Since January 2008 they've been on and off the Top 100. Sometimes they each have made the number one position (on different days, of course.) It puzzles me that if they've received so many kisses, why are they still here? Surely, the quality of women available for them on RSVP can't be that poor?

Are we allowed to discuss the Top 100 on these blogs or not? (I'll soon find out when I discover whether or not this comment has been allowed to be posted.)

Just in case, it's allowed to be posted, can we hear from the bloggers who are currently on the Top 100? Say, for example eleganteloquent & yaahmulegiddyup? Simply, are you getting bombared with 50 kisses or more a day?

What's the story? You don't have to answer, but if you did, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 24, 2008 11:02 AM

laughsandtalks at June 23, 2008 2:53 PM

The model is 19 years and 7 months.

Estelle

Posted by: enrepres at June 24, 2008 10:55 AM

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 7:36 AM

Don't blame advertising and TV for the ills of modern civilization.They are just doing their job, the best way what works.
Sex sells - thats all

As for Pussycat Dolls,Bratz etc, thats the work of toy companies!
DONT BUY THEM ANY TOYS THEN.

The same toy companies that bring out Finding Nemo, KUNG FU Panda etc( all movie length commercials for their new range of toys ) also bring out those nasty toys, and previously brought to the world the beloved Barbie (which originally was a European prostitute doll actually)

Did you have a Barbie, did all your friends, and your daughters ?

Children loved her, and still do.

When she first came out, all the 'proper'
members of the community were aghast.
Her curvy hips, ample bust, hint of lipstick, and long blond hair, was very intimidating.

Did you, and your girlfriends become hookers because of Barbie?

Then american 'liberated' women took her to heart as a symbol of becoming a self-determined new age woman, and were buying them for their daughters in droves!
The world agreed.

Sure her dimensions become ridiculous in the 80s-90s, but i think the are returning her to 'normal' these days- the Barbie department in Mattel is after all run by a woman .

Bratz, and the rest, are the toy market's efforts to try to compete with the Goddess Barbie. Seems that there was market out there for the tougher edge of Bratz, AND for her multicultural design ( up to then Barbie was only a white gal).
As we might even expect, Barbie just isn't edgy enough for the granddaughters of the Feminist Movement. Children like to challenge the limitations of their parents, but few will be irreparably damaged by their tween rebellion .

Seriously, get real - this is a storm in a teacup compared to Aids,drought,War, corruption etc ...and just an easy target for polite dinner conversation.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 10:47 AM

Is not beauty only skin deep really???

Now i am not an oil painting,
but have dated and been in relationships with some stunningly attractive women who have turned out to be be the ugliest of people.

And have dated and been in relationships with who some may call average looking who have turned out to be the most beautiful....go figure..!!!

Is not intelligence attractive,how someone thinks,their beliefs,how and why they feel and for what reasons beautiful.Attractiveness is a state of mind,believe you are beautiful and you are.

For those that have the egotistical self importance to claim to the world just how beautiful and attractive they are is quite sad,because in reality very ugly inside you be.
So is it up to society to judge what is attractive and who is not.Me thinks not!!!!.
Beauty will always be in the eye of the beholder so to speak.

If you can not look past an age difference,a few kilos over,eye or hair colour,a few inches in height difference is very superficial,be prepared to look out side the square and embrace people that you otherwise may not,you might find just how surprised you will be.....

Now thats ATTRACTIVE

Posted by: thetradey at June 24, 2008 10:26 AM

jenniferhi, I didn't watch 60 Minutes last night (was out for the evening) but I've seen programmes on that same subject not too long ago. My daughter is grown up now, and you're right, I don't believe the the "sexualisation" of children was an issue when she was young.

I would have exerted my parental influence and said "no" had she fallen for the media images and wanted to go too far down that road, much the same as I did when she pleaded for designer gear because that's what "everyone else at school has". I wouldn't have liked that extra insidious background pressure, and I don't think it's appropriate to attempt to turn children into sexual beings.

Posted by: malsie at June 24, 2008 10:07 AM

Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 10:53 PM

Hear, hear !

Nice post TW - you show Great empathy.
(STIL 2 LNG IMAO (wink) - but )

EE - It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have lost at all.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 24, 2008 10:05 AM

Thanks carolinafr, and troyohboy.
As for ichythyology, thanks for showing any prospective lady looking at this blog what kind of person you are. And others on this blog who have also been in the top 100 (and there are a few) maybe you wish to say something to this degenerate individual with such a foul mind, but I shall remain the lady that I am and defer from further comment.
With such beautiful people as ERAL, woody, malsie, Jen, cutesmiles, Perth, TW, OG, kurli, laughsandtalks (apologies to anyone I may have missed) who have provided good input and humour both through here and more directly, I shall choose to stay blogging, and refuse to have anything to do with any comment you choose to post about me - with little doubt that you will do so as you need such stimulation to bring some degree of event to your pathetically tiny little life/mind, as they must be as evidenced by your posting to me, below.

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 24, 2008 10:02 AM

ichthyology at 9:14am: Wash your mouth out, sonny. With grandma's lye soap.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 24, 2008 9:57 AM

Oh and goodforalaugh, overweight balding forty year olds, arent something I would be doing when I am a forty year old, let alone now.

If we are being personal and all that about looks............holy moses, you really are good for a laugh

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 9:54 AM

Oh and Troy, maybe you and godoforalaugh should go on a playdate...............andd iscuss your iandequacies and why you feel you have to be bitchy towards women out of your league.

Honestly, seriously.............to see grown men who clearly are so uptight about their own ego and attractive women they feel they actually have to try and put them down its laughable and paethetic.

I also have to say..............neither of you will bring me down and the bitchy comments, just re-enforce just how absolutely gorgeous I am, as there is no way you would say that to an actual unattractive person.

The more you crow, the more I love myself.

Maybe you two boys may consider a date though, seems lik you area good match.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 9:52 AM

Oh and its Amanda...........you may hang around with Traceys, Sharons and Mandys.....but I am definitely no Mandy, its Amanda nad if you address me, use my name and show some respect

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 9:44 AM

Troy again you show your inadequacy and insecurity through your bitchiyness.

I know how attractive I am and equally, so do the very attractive men I date. I have no magic mirror, I used to model so clearly its only you who has that opinion, so being the type of person you clearly are and clearly with your issues and inadequacy.....I really wont lose sleep over your opinion.........especially when really really good looking guys think otherwise.

Im sure that really has you boiling now..............and really, I just find it hilarious and somewhat sad and patthetic

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 9:44 AM

jenniferhi at 7:36 AM: Sorry. Saw you mention that important TV show in advance, but play tennis every Sunday night for longer life and sooner fun, and don't have TV anyway.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 24, 2008 9:36 AM

Does EE stand for elegantequine ?
If so all I can say is eeewwww!!!! you are on the top 100 how degrading and dispicable, no wonder you are having problems finding the right person because we all know what you have to do to make the top 100 and there is nothing elegant about that.

Power to the beautiful people i say, and may they suffer for their beauty.
I hardly think so, but maybe we should have a topic on the physically challenged ,who have not looked in the mirror lately?

Posted by: ichthyology at June 24, 2008 9:14 AM

Posted by: good4laugh at June 23, 2008 11:12 PM


Now THAT is funny hahahahaha.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 24, 2008 9:08 AM

Thanks Malsie however, as many know it doesn't matter what I look like it's that I have a realistic perception of myself.

Mandy obviously has a magic mirror!! I always wonder about people who need to continually talk themselves up in the forlorn hope that others will believe what they are so desperate to believe about themselves. Bit sad really.

Anyway, regarding the 60 minutes thing last Sunday night. I watched it with my beautiful girl (who by the way rolls her eyes every time I tell her she is beautiful) so we were able to discuss both a male and female viewpoint. I think there is little doubt kids are being sexualised for commercial profit. Too many parents want to be seen as 'hip' and as their kids friend not just parent so don't make a stand when little daughter wants to dress and act trashy. When daughter says friends mother is OK with it parent caves in instead of being a parent. When your children are small they need a mum and dad. As they grow older the relationship evolves into a kind of special friendship, but not when they are 10 for crying out loud.

I was amazed by the attitude of the woman, from the Advertising Standards Board I think it was, who was literally spitting chips as she believes children should have choice. Is it any wonder the crap they are exposed to given her attitude.

I had no problem at all with the little birthday facial parties for girls as, and I await the attacks from the feminist lobby, girls love to fluff around with that stuff and it is not sexual nor is it about one girl being prettier than another. Just a bunch of little girls doing what most little (and big) girls love to do.

EE, sorry about your experience but there are some decent people on here, amongst the chaff.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 24, 2008 8:49 AM


EE: The kiss is just an expression of empathy. Reckon you won't be here very long. You'll meet someone right soon, but probably not on this site. Good luck.

Posted by: carolinafr at June 24, 2008 8:18 AM

sorryguys , no I didn't watch 60 minutes, was out having drinks at the yacht club...and I normally don't watch 60 minutes as they are so sensationalist and usually only give one side of a story, though they are better than some of the shows during the week!!!!! Foxtel has some really good news channels, which I is what I will flick to when I need to check out the news.

Mystiemuse, your wish is not corny '"I am hoping that one day someone will find my "beauty" and give me an advantage over their affections...... Is that corny??"""
That is basically what we/I all want...to find the one that is meant for me!!! Have a lovely day all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 24, 2008 8:04 AM

tassiedude - ha ha, very good.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 24, 2008 7:49 AM

Hey tassiedude - Some people do give a toss and you are obviously one of them. The rest of that sentence, couldn't agree more.

Jen x

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 7:45 AM

Hi Tassiedude - I don't think it really does divert from the blog topic. It is a nice side-step to an extension of the beauty theme. i.e. buy this, do this, and you too will be beautiful. Thus attracting that perfect person.

I also think it quite interesting that you and I are the only ones who think it bears weight to discuss. Where are all the so-called and self-proclaiming intelligent blog-hoggers and their views?

Didn't anyone else watch 60 minutes and care to discuss? I mean it's virtually the only show with any substance on a Sunday night.

Let's get real here. Even us at our ages have been influenced by the media as to what beauty is. So what on earth is happening to our young ones and what they are subjected to.

Little girls copying The Pussycat Dolls and gyrating and pole dancing not really understanding what they are doing.

I know you can scream turn the TV off, but really should we have to do that at 7 or 8 in the morning? No, it's the networks, that should be restricted in what is allowed to be shown.

Kids are bombarded with images. Just at bus stops now, where so many teenagers are awaiting School buses there are massive posters of the latest movies or beautiful bodies showing off the latest underwear. What messages are the kids getting? We all know - you should look like this. Hmmmmm.

One advertising guru I always admired - Siimon Reynolds because I believe he does hold a lot of ethics in so many ways. I did write to him once re all this stuff, but alas no reply. Was pretty disappointed over that. Perhaps it's time I get back on this hobby horse of mine. People do have to be a voice. And thank god some people are standing up for children.

Could write more about this later. Wonder what any of you others really do think. And please don't try and just wipe it. A lot of you have already had your children grow up, escaping to a large degree what the young are now subjected to. Keep that in mind.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 24, 2008 7:36 AM

Malsie, sorry I am not buying it. You fill your boots though if you are into that.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 24, 2008 7:17 AM

Hi Jen
Yes I saw it too. It is quite disturbing especially considering television has only been around for the last fifty years and in reality the things influencing society are becoming more and more graphic and accessible. I hate to think what will happen in the next fifty years. I know that it diverts from the original blog topic however it is still pertinent to all discussions held on this forum. (Sexist attitudes, the way we view ourselves, equality only to name a few).
I am sorry to say that no one actually gives a toss about real issues anymore and there are indeed a handful of people on here more concerned with the over inflated opinion of themselves and whom dominate all blog topics.
I hope the spelling, comprehension and gramma really get up your noses. LOL

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 24, 2008 2:08 AM

to iaminperth, sounds like you and your car are a bit too good for the rest of us!

Posted by: chas56 at June 24, 2008 1:27 AM

EE at 3.17pm: Hope the weekend tryst went to plan. But benefit from my recent experience, and don't answer that here.

You posted that if you're beautiful, "women will be catty and nasty for no apparent reason" Yes, jealousy is a curse, but when society gives women the right to chat up men, instead of having to wait co-dependently for the men to make the first move towards the prettiest ones, I see that as becoming less of a problem.

In the meantime, a beautiful woman has the chance to greet the worst overt nastiness with "Sorry - my ugly mask is in the wash today. I''ll wear it tomorrow, to help you feel less threatened by this one." They deserve that, and more.
...............................................................

"...and men see something that they want, more than something they want to get to know."

Not the men who are your match, EE, and therefore deserve you. Don't worry about the rest who only want a trophy, so they can lord it over their equally-defective mates. They're not in your future.

"Beauty....can also be something over-valued by the owner, so that the very sense of self worth is attributed to it and fear of losing beauty gets heightened."

My mother had the answer to that. I'm told I was a beautiful little blue-eyed slim blonde boy, so to keep me from vanity she told me frequently "Smile more often. Takes you from plain to looking all right."

.............................................................

"Men tell me I am beautiful, and then they go on to be abusive and using, acting often as if they consider my 'beauty' to be an enticement they actually resent."

EE, I divide people into 2 classes:

1) Winners, who have enough self-esteem to be glad about other people's excellence, in any field from beauty to intelligence to energetic go-getting. If you're good, they hope to have you on their team. Birds of a feather.... They're for you, EE.

2) Losers, who resent everyone else's success in any field at all, and exert their energy mainly to try to nobble the competition. And their team-mates.

Before I started my own business at 47, I'd worked for 6 firms under 9 immediate supervisors. One said "Go Bill! The better you are, the better I look to my boss." He'd recently won a medal in the Melbourne Olympics.

The other 8 spent much of their energy trying to nobble me, and/or blanket my light under a bushell. Made it no fun for me to work there. One used to clip out distant job ads each week that I might be interested in, and drop them in my IN tray when I was elsewhere.
..............................................................

"...if I was perceived generally as more plain, would love be easier to find?"

You've got 3 handicaps: good looks, brains (and resultant job history), and self-esteem. That's according to all the losers.

Because your multi-faceted excellence makes them feel worse still about themselves. Why do you think Marcus is always trying to shoot you and our other superfemmes down all the time?

But for all the men who are winners, your excellences aren't handicaps, they're advantages. Get out of that trash can full of losers, and get up on a pedestal where the winners can see you from further away.
...............................................................

"Would I get greater respect if I had less physical attraction to men?"

Hey, you're getting the respect already. From losers, who always show it by trying to ankle-bite you. So that they can get a feeling of power, not from excelling themselves, but from bringing some high-flier down into the mud.

EE, recognise this respect for what it is, and them for what they are. And get the hell out of there towards where the winners hang out.

If I was back at the age and weight that I was after my divorce, when I started dating again 12 years ago, I'd challenge you to a date myself.

Posted by: timewarp1 at June 24, 2008 1:12 AM

amandagoldcoast, actually I think you have made an inaccurate assumption about troyohboy. I looked at his profile some while ago before it was hidden, and I thought he was a very good looking guy (I don't know him outside of the blogs). I even commented so on the blogs, to which he responded very modestly.... a little modesty (without being self effacing) never goes astray, in my opinion....

Posted by: malsie at June 24, 2008 12:49 AM

Well the age old debate of *Do looks matter*, the answer in my opinion is, of course they do, there has to be something to get us to initially read the profile. But in saying that, who are we to decide for everyone else if someone is beautiful or not? We all like, what, we all like, so, what determines the beauty of those we are admiring? And if there is beauty in everything, does that mean that everyone has that advantage, with someone??
I am hoping that one day someone will find my "beauty" and give me an advantage over their affections...... Is that corny??

Posted by: mystiemuse at June 23, 2008 11:35 PM

Yes, iaminperth that was silly of you and I am glad you admitted it openly, probably good therapy for you.
ok , number plates come in many colours and types and styles , they keep our prisoners employed ,who knows your ex could have pressed my plates.
The extra money raised as revenue goes on our roads,at least that is what the RTA tell me.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 11:26 PM

Several years ago I went out with a girl who could make herself look gorgeous. When she would go out she wouldn't even take her purse, as there was always a guy available to buy her a drink. She even managed to squeeze a European holiday out of me. So to answer the question, 'YES' there is an advantage to being beautilful, but you need to know how to use it.

These days I'm all grown up, and I only go for the ugly ones. Hey amandaongoldcoast what are you doing next Saturday night ;)

Posted by: good4laugh at June 23, 2008 11:12 PM

So why would you want green or red plates on a car, is it just a preference or does it mean something. I have black slimline European plates on my car, blend beautifully with the silver grey duco. And gosh, I never realized it could be a typo, how silly of me.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 10:53 PM

manddrible60

that does not make sense.

Being beautiful really does not have any draw backs accept for the thoughts that are in the mind of someone who knows they are beautiful and then it becomes a problem as that person thinks they are too good for mere mortals and so , spend most of their lives single,thinking about how come there are no suitable males for them ,I think personally there is not a single person out there without the knowledge that they are beautiful who do not let that thought control their dating habits.

It is true, i have met a few who know it and behave accordingly even to the point of talking about their dreams of grandeur while sipping on a Chardonnay while looking directly at you, it just goes to show what they are like, fair dinkum, how could you feel sorry for someone like that or even show any empathy .
It is a bit like feelin sorry for Roger Federer because he lost a point or Brad Pitt because he had to change a nappy.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 10:33 PM

Iaminperth.
brian is the same as brain accept you have to make a typo to get it.Get it??

Red plates are the same as green plates if you are coloured blind.
Hence golfers who are coloured blind never use red tees because after they hit the ball they can't find their tees in the grass.It goes without saying that green tees are the same as green plates.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 10:19 PM

What are red plates. Is that a special kind of number plate or does it actually mean something ?

Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 9:46 PM

Itchy a child without a brian, who's brian?

Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 9:43 PM

'it is strange though that somebody would rather travel on a city and suburban for an hour and a half at midnight and see that as safer than a lift home, after all .......'

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 9:20 PM
I am guessing the reason is that if a guy attacks you on a train, there is no doubt it would be rape. If you let a guy you barely know give you a lift and he attacks you, he can (and many do) claim it was consentual, especially if he has spiked your drink en route. If I was a woman in this situation I would take a taxi every time.

Has man 'Become' a predator? Thats what we have always been by nature. (Wasnt an icthyosaurus a dinosaur, and a fishy one at that?)

Posted by: mandible60 at June 23, 2008 9:42 PM

Errr.....Amandaonthegoldcoast alias my GREEAAATbrittany1956

tell us all , really, is it hard being beautiful ??
i mean not just beautiful features , but all the other stuff that counts.you know, nice person, inner peace, sponsor World Vision, save the Children< Cancer Council, heart foundation, you know , all the things that make us worth while human beings ,caring for4 others, actually dating older uglier men without being condescending and ..................hang on a minute............you came from England to the Gold Coast !!!!!
That is funny, I thought the Gold Coast was the haven for meter maids, washed up surf bunnies and the remnants and cast offs of multi millionaires.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 9:42 PM

Ohhh.......Miss wishfulthunker3
la purrrrrrrrr..................Do you always take the cats on dates with you or do they get to have an evening by themselves ?
Can you tell me though.just a poll I am taking......do you prefer to be picked up at home on a date or do you think this is a dangerous thing on RSVP ?
Seems strange to me that a woman would consider this as a no no considering everyone in your home town would have known where you lived and who you were dating or has modern man become a predator ?J
ust thought I would ask, because it sort of throws off some sort of warning of insecurity or fear of the male species,perhaps from a previous bad experience ,it is strange though that somebody would rather travel on a city and suburban for an hour and a half at midnight and see that as safer than a lift home, after all you have the guys plates, his name, his phone number, his email address,his credit card record from the restaurant, what more could you want ? a signed declaration from a High Court Judge???

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 9:20 PM

I knew you were like that isjt54, red number plates dear, red, you know, lipstick red .......at least the car should last 10 years and only need a service every 15,000KM and the first one is free.
Beats having to dress up for dates,shave your legs,put on the make up be on your best behaviour........the car doesn't care and will give you a better ride and all you have to do is park it in your garage or on the street and clean it occassionally.
Being a guy though, The car eats up my time before a date and get's more grooming then I get in a year.
Ahhh......for another day on the harbour.
Let me see, the price of petrol means it would cost about $80.00 a week to maintain on octane98, multiply that by 50 and I think it would be a better bet to actually find a boyfriend who lives in the same street
Oh , Junebaby, you are sooo shy try throwing caution to the wind and forget about counting dates.
By the 5th the guy will be gone anyway.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 9:09 PM

You guys arent seriously pandering to this stuff are you?
He is winding you up....nothing more.......his ex probably left him for a younger guy so he loves to say younger women adore him, but younger men cant do the same for women................oh my god, its a classic man who is fighting with women his own age about men younger, so he claims he gets younger, more attractive women throwing themsleves at him.
Unless they are called candy and he is sticking dollars down their g string a a strip joint....no, he isnt

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 9:05 PM

Elegantelequent
How preposperous of me to even think I would get a kiss from a woman let alone get them to actually spend $10.00 on a date����you said it ma�am very old fashioned.
I have to tell you though the majority do like to be picked up at home and to actually be able to communicate without any fear of being policed by RSVP. Or treated like a child without a brian is well��������..dare I say it �..enlighting ?

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 8:55 PM

Is the topic for real? I can think of a number of responses, but none of them would get past the mods. Having said that, anecdotal evidence would suggest that being 'attractive' is certainly no bad thing, although it is possible to be too 'beautiful' (when it attracts negative responses from others).
Regarding the obsession with pictures on RSVP, it is only natural when you think about it. When you meet someone in person, you get to see them before you even decide if you are interested. Pictures provide at least a starting point for a lot of people to decide if there is any interest there. Is it shallow? Probably, but if it is, then we're pretty much all guilty. As much as anything, I believe that the picture fixation is a function of the unnatural nature of the interactions that this place creates. While it is useful for letting people meet, it is nothing more than a starting point and the potential of any meeting will ultimately be determined by an actual meeting, rather than a virtual one.
In the end, RSVP is basically eBay for people. And as anyone who has used eBay knows, auctions with pictures perform better than those without! And you get more bids if you accept PayPal! ;)

Posted by: sesquipedalian76 at June 23, 2008 8:37 PM

ichthyology, how do you get beautiful women to send you kisses AND do the email? To get doctored photos? OK so you have the sense to realise that paying for the lunch is a good idea, but they let you pick them up at their homes? And you make them email you via your private email as well? How come such beautiful woman are so insecure and feel they need to do sooooo much of the chasing??? Do you ever get a second date with any of them...or a third...? Your approach just reeks of some 80s style 'I love myself and you are so lucky to be seen with me', which is amazingly unattractive, isn't it? Or am I missing something? I want a man who has a brain, has style, is thoughtful and considerate, wants to get to know me, and feels like a million dollars when I hold his arm and walk into a place with him. Your beautiful women seem to be hiding themselves in the shadows. I wonder why? I guess I never did find arrogance particularly attractive....I always saw it as a sign of compensatory behaviour for insecurity...

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 23, 2008 8:24 PM

i changed my shirt on Thursday, my underwear on Tuesday...itchy...what day was the date?...hope not Monday...you would have had no need for the pheromones...who has a lexus with red plates...what are red plates?...no they would not work on me...now if you gave me the lexus instead of lunch then you might be talking:))

Posted by: istj54 at June 23, 2008 8:23 PM

ichthyology, if she sends the kiss, fair that she sends the email. That is what I do. Now meeting....I meet the guys at the agreed place, for the first 4 or 5 dates, no one comes to my house until I am sure it is a happening thing.....and I have a teenager at home, so no one meets him unless I am sure. I have my own perfectly lovely car for driving too dates. And I will do dutch, I will also pay if I suggest a date.....and I will pick up in my car if it is my shout for the night out...have a lovely evening...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 23, 2008 8:20 PM

Junebaby, I am trying a whole new approach to dating beautiful women.
I show no photo ever.
They have to read my profile and decide if I qualify for their stable.
They send me the kiss and if I think they fit my perfect profile I tell them I am interested and they pay the $10.00 for the email.
Now, this is a bargain, in return they get ��my email address, my photos (doctored up to the limits of my ability) and a $200.00 lunch and a door to door limo service in my Lexus with red plates.
I wonder if this would work if I was a woman ?

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 7:53 PM

istj54
I am at a loss, maybe I need some dating tips from you, I have tried everything,apart from wearing blinkers!!
i changed my shirt on Thursday, my underwear on Tuesday,brushed my teeth every day for a week prior to the date,combed my hair,used some pheremones,got rid of the car and bought a Lexus with red plates and still I end up paying for the bill.......hmmmm...........I know.......maybe if I act like i don't care for the beautiful ones or make them get a taxi home that might work.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 7:32 PM

I agree that "beautiful" is a subjective term, and that for someone to be attractive, it's the complete package that counts.
I also agree there's nothing worse than people misrepresenting themselves with misleading profiles with old pics.

Posted by: jovial67 at June 23, 2008 7:26 PM

How does one define "beautiful"??? What I consider gorgeous others might think is just plain revolting...and vice versa. To me, the man has to be at least worth a second look, attractive, not necessary drop dead goregeous (in my eyes), but not someone I DONT want to look at often.

Beautiful doesn't necessarily mean you have brains, can hold a conversation or become a good friend/lover. It just means you might get a second look by someone. Photos on here are no indication either, I've met a few who look nothing like their pics (mostly a lot worse and I'm wondering WHO is in those pics!), but I'm sure it's the same for men who meet up with women.

Glad to see nothing's changed on here...same people picking the same holes in each other...and the same ones dominating....bit like soapies really - you go away for a couple of weeks and pick it back up instantly

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at June 23, 2008 7:02 PM

In my humble experience there is an advantage to being attractive, well dressed for what ever the occaision and having a big smile on your face. And shoes....alway wear great shoes (my middle name is Imelda!!!)
Now I am way over the 45 mark and a big girl...and I have freckles....but everyone I have met thru RSVP dating and blog fests, have said that I am exactly like my photo's and that I am very attractive...who would have thunk....I always thought I was Ok but a bit on the ugly side. The men I have dated seem to think I have gr8 eyes, hair, smile and seem to like my chest!!!!
Now that bit is off putting, because I don't see what all the fuss is....I am me, what you see is what you get and I strongly believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and if someone I care about thinks I am beautiful...well then I am!!
The downside to RSVP is that photo's are what sell us....a lot of males, in my experience don't fully read a profile, they like pictures to look at...and lets be real here, WE, males and fenales are visual creatures.....we make opinions based on what we see, we then form other opinions from the experience that comes later...which is why it is so important to meet up with people very quickly, so you don't form or get a unrealistic view of the person you have spoken to on a dating site. I usually meet within 2-3 days from initial contact......just all my thoughts on a Monday night.....have a lovely evening all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 23, 2008 6:58 PM

Thanks Kurli.........sass can make you stay home a lot on a Friday night, but at least you can do it with a smile on your face.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 6:56 PM

I cant remember where I heard it, but it was someone saying you like someone for their perfections, you love them for their imperfections..........I like that.

However, there has to be a reason to be there in the first place. Everyone is attractive to someone the only issue comes when someone is more attractive than someone else and they dont like it that they cant have the chance to find out. If we all went for just personality, we would all be happily married to someone of course, but we would now be debating how wrong it is to just go on personality.

For me, no I dont go for the guys who have their tops off in their pictures, showing their over the top gym work outs (or in a lot of cases not enough but they think they have)......or guys who show themselves in bars looking like they have two women on each arm........as that shows typical male and I dont like that (and by typical male I mean typical in the sense that males like that like us to believe all men are).

Equally no I dont like bald men, or balding men, but I have a friend who loves bald or shaved headed men. Me personally, I like attractive men yes, but to compare a guy I dated over the past few months, a Johnny Depp quirky look and a great attitude too................I dont know if we will date much longer, but he is the type I go for and may work out, who knows....but I am honest, until he says he is my boyfriend, I am still looking and open to find someone..........he has his conflict issues to deal with and only if he gets over them can we move forward.

Looks are something different to everyone.............although yes sometimes, they can become those guys who reach out due to their own insecuritties and think they can get younger, more attractive due to being insecure about themselves, or as their girl left them for younger, more attractive, so end up hating attractive women, or women in generral.

There is a lot of nastiness on these pages, some of which is evident. I dont think there is anything wrong with asking for your equal and standing by it.........if you are looking to trade, then at least be honest about it.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 6:49 PM

Marcus, I am here for your winning personality and the only hopes and dreams I can ever meet a man like you...............Coldtoast

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 6:31 PM

Call me shallow, but looks mean a lot to me. I've met several women from this site who are not really my type in the looks department, but our "dates" have felt like a business meeting - (ie. no spark) even though we hit it off in other ways.

If I don't find them attractive physically, it's no go. The hard part is finding attractive women with similar interests who find ME attractive! Oh well, one can dream I guess. :)

Posted by: jovial67 at June 23, 2008 6:29 PM

Firstly, oldergent....can I say something here....my comments have been in retaliation to people who have shown ridiculous comments and I have equally responded with ridiculous comments to show how ridiculous comments they are....which I had hoped had been clear, especially when I had said so.

I am here for two reasons, one that you have to be in it to win it.........I could meet the perfect guy anywhere adn this is nothing more than a mere opening. I am happy, I am very successful, I like who I am a lot, that isnt arrogant, that is how we shoudl be and what we all strive for.

The second reason I am here is I enjoy listening to conversations and participating in them here. Much more than looking for a partner, I like reading adn replying to these conversation which are mainly from older people with a lot of different attitudes and I find it fascinating.....which again is a positive thing.

I have to say its awful that you would say you are putting me down as a fake. I am hoping being I have just had drinks with a new colleague and him telling me he is also on this site and being an older guy how much respect he has for me etc....that he will take a peek in here and maybe let you know I am far from a fake or not real.

I come here to listen to the types of people....it fascinates me and it makes me grow as a person as much as it does them.

Troy, my response was not arrogant, it was simply a reply to what you seemed to be coming across as, as being bitchy which was not acceptable......there is one thing I dislike and its people being snobby even when its inverted snobbery.

Everyone wants their equal, whether it be a balance between a bad tempered person and a calm one, an attractive and a rich one........albeit I think some work better than others when you have less to trade you have less you move on.............and yes, the older you get the more you like yourself and the less you feel you need to compromise.

Just a thought, before anyone else lynches me......................I am here simply as I like the company even though sometimes I dont agree with what they say...

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 6:25 PM

Posted by: woodnwine at June 23, 2008 5:51 PM...but do they need to be beautiful for you to fall in love with them in the first place? That's the question...or is it an advantage? I believe that you may attract more initially by being attractive, but you need to have other assets to maintain the interest levels.

Posted by: istj54 at June 23, 2008 6:18 PM

Posted by: happymum6 at June 23, 2008 12:03 PM Oh Please!!!!......everyone has something they are looking for...to what degree that influences who we choose to get to know is a matter for the individual....but to suggest that guys on this site are shallow, without so much as a mention for the similarly inclined women (not all, but a few) is machiavellian..or at least a little niave......I am sure this is not an intentional slight on the males, but rather indicative of your experience..........now a little of mine.....I have had several women (when my photo was not visible) send kisses, never to be heard of again after sending my photo password, I have had women (on viewing their profile, and having had the audacity to send them a kiss) block me......as I have said before, I do not consider a lack of mutual interest as a reflection on me,...and hope those I do not correspond with do not take it as a reflection on them......I know there needs to be a mutual attraction, and interest....but blocking someone for being not your type....come on............can PEOPLE on this (and similar) sites be superficial??...YES......... but everyone is guilty of it to some degree (even if it is just by being intolerant of a habit, trait etc that you would have accepted in an "attractive" person).......this is my opinion/experience...you may disagree, but each person will have an opinion based on their experience........just a thought...

Posted by: spanky668 at June 23, 2008 6:14 PM

Hey, I like that one jewelz61!! So true.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 23, 2008 5:51 PM

QUOTE

Okay, he was good looking. Being good looking was his "advantage", but did he really have to show me his tongue? Isn't it a sign of disrespect to your future partner to poke your tongue out at them? Personally, yes, I felt offended. If that makes me shallow and too sensitive, so be it.

I agree attractiveness can be an advantage but - sometimes - if you don't use it wisely, it can be a disadvantage.

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 23, 2008 3:28 PM

Not shallow at all in my books

I am the same but with women that have pictures of themselves holding alcohol in their hands --- it is a big turn off for me, I do not see how it is presenting themselves in the best light

Also the "cut the ex out of the pic" profiles

bah big turn off.

Posted by: yaahmulegiddyup at June 23, 2008 5:43 PM

but my date could not help but notice me looking ,went to the ladies and never came back.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 4:05 PM ...don't think that was the reason, itchy...I'd send you a kiss but I'm way too old and ugly for you:))

Posted by: istj54 at June 23, 2008 5:41 PM

Here's a saying that seems to be right for this topic : "You don't love a woman because she's beautiful, she's beautiful because you love her".

Posted by: jewelz61 at June 23, 2008 4:41 PM

Off topic -
Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 22, 2008 7:10 PM
>>> Dunno about dazzling em' with anatomy but I do know where to find the clitoris.

duhh
It's that thing near the top-middle of your mouse, that rolls up and down ( isn't it ?)
(PMSL)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 4:26 PM

amandaonthegoldcoast,
I have been reading your posts for a while now and somehow you do not come over to me as genuine, dating so many men in real life who appreciate you, if so pray, tell, "what are you doing here amongst what must be the slobs of all men?" so far beneath you, your beauty, your intellect, your achievements, your money and social position, and your great and glorious opinion of yourself. Well it seems you have impressed a "Grande Dame" who seems to have much the same opinion of herself.

EE.
This question has been posed by many women in my experience who have come for some consolation to pick up the shattered pieces. Many women of beauty have the same searching for a like man, unfortunately the woman usually has been looking for something more that the man. It has been previously mentioned that some women have a not so attractive partner because no one was game enough to ask them. One woman in such a situation explained it as being comfortable that other woman would not always be hitting on him, he would not think of cheating on her because she was the best thing he would ever get, they just celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary. How correct was she. I am sorry to feel a bit of regret and sorrow in your post.
No you would not get greater respect if you were less attractive, why not try picking a partner less attractive and make their life more beautiful, and you much happier, as the lady did above.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 23, 2008 4:07 PM

Okay, roots,leavesand eats.
I see what you say and you have something there.
Women dress up for other women.....and other men!!!

"Why have you got that low cut ,short skirt on dear when all you are doing is going to the dentist ?"
I went out with a lady from this site , looked okay in the photo , but the real deal was much better, so i said to her, why don't you get a pro to do some photos for you.........hmmm..............she did......and now she is dating someone else !!!

Here's another one, photo was okay , emailed for a month and let it die...........a month on this vivacious photo of a blonde with a bit of cleavage appears......I send a kiss........and I basically get told to bugger off!!! same woman different photo.

I was actually stairing at this woman on another table wondering where I had seen her before, then it struck me ..she was out on a date with a guy from here.......much different from her photo, better actually, I had never kissed her, but my date could not help but notice me looking ,went to the ladies and never came back.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 4:05 PM

Beauty only opens a door, it doesn't ensure you get to stay in the room.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 23, 2008 3:46 PM

Once when I had a photo on my profile, I rejected a kiss from a guy who had one photo in his gallery of him sticking his tongue out at the viewer.

Okay, he was good looking. Being good looking was his "advantage", but did he really have to show me his tongue? Isn't it a sign of disrespect to your future partner to poke your tongue out at them? Personally, yes, I felt offended. If that makes me shallow and too sensitive, so be it.

I agree attractiveness can be an advantage but - sometimes - if you don't use it wisely, it can be a disadvantage.

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 23, 2008 3:28 PM

Being perceived as beautiful has benefits in some ways, but there is a curse as well. Women will be catty and nasty for no apparent reason, and men see something that they want more than something they want to get to know.
Beauty, as perceived by others, can lead to a lonely and trivialised existence...and it can also be something over-valued by the owner, so that the very sense of self worth is attributed to it and fear of losing beauty gets heightened.
Men tell me I am beautiful, and then they go on to be abusive and using, acting often as if they consider my 'beauty' to be an enticement they actually resent...if I was perceived generally as more plain, would love be easier to find? Would I get greater respect if I had less physical attraction to men?

Posted by: eleganteloquent at June 23, 2008 3:17 PM

enrepres at June 23, 2008 10:35 AM

How old do you think the model is?

Cheers

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 23, 2008 2:53 PM

Irony....
Today we are saying, take some time, get to know people, there are great people if we don't just make assumptions from photos...

Yesterday a lot of you were telling me my profile was great and to get some new pictures.....

At least I said that people should make a lot less assumptions and try each other out a lot more first (wink)

Posted by: creativestuart at June 23, 2008 2:50 PM

Aogc@1.56pm
You keep up with the sass girl!
You know who you are and what you want from life.Don't compromise on those values....EVER!

Posted by: kurli at June 23, 2008 2:47 PM

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 1:56 PM

Amanda, I was going to write and say that what I wrote didn't come out the way it was supposed to. However, given your attitude and response, most especially since you don't know me or what I look like I can only suggest that your profile should not be changed and that it displays you exactly as you are. I find it difficult to believe any man would be overly ambitious 'kissing' you and wish you well in real life where you are obviously swamped by attractive eligible men who meet your expectations.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 23, 2008 2:41 PM

happymum6 at June 23, 2008 12:03 PM

I agree with you. If you are looking for Barbie you better be looking like Ken

Posted by: eastofcbd at June 23, 2008 2:17 PM

Did any of you catch the 60 minutes story last night on how our kids are being influenced and sexualised by the images they are bombarded with?
Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 23, 2008 10:33 AM

No i didn't - but the cute kid in the picture attached to this blog can't be more than 14. And we bloggers are almost ALL over 30.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 2:11 PM

May I also point out its again a hideen profile with someone being bitchy..................Troy darling, I am an ex Miss United Kingdom..........I have no problems with my looks.

It seems you do though, but really, thats your problem and not mine.........or the hoards of grorgeous men I date in real life (rather than the overly ambitious and insecure who hide behind hidden profiles making bitchy comments that are nothing but laughable attempts...........I may not be everyones cup of tea, but dont think anyone coudl call me overweight or unattractive thank you)

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 1:58 PM

Yes Troy, I think you are right............I am going to get some new pictures as clearly those dont show my actual physical appearance.........as I said, in real life I get the types of men approaching me and dating me that I would want to date. On here its the opposite and men I wouldnt want to and actually feel quite offended by to be honest.

So yes Troy, clearly my photos are not doing me justice, or I should stick to real life as the men are on here are just insecure, bitchy and generally overly ambitious about what they can get (as shown by one particular man on here who keeps claiming he gets women he clearly doesnt).

I am hoping the rest of you get my reply to Troy and see through what could appear to be arrogance and moreso laughing in the face at his clear attempt to be catty and bitchy as he feels inadequate about my attractiveness and his lack thereof

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 1:56 PM

tassiedude, I think next time I'm having a crisis of confidence from lack of attention, I'll delude myself it's because I'm so unbearably gorgeous everyone is "intimidated by my beauty".... mmm, I wish....

Posted by: malsie at June 23, 2008 1:36 PM

It is built into us, women look for men that look like adults, men look for women that look like children.
That is not my opinion , but the opinion of a well known personality who is quite famous for his teaching on body language.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 11:16 AM

I've also heard:
Men, look at women.
Women, look at other women, being looked at by men.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 1:36 PM

Beautiful to one person isn't necessarily beautiful to the next person. As they say, it's in the eye of the beholder.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 23, 2008 1:26 PM

Whatever happened to the old "you have to love yourself first before anyone else can love you" philosophy?

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 23, 2008 9:58 AM

(imao) I think it still applies - however LOVE is what defines the sort of relationship you will end up having with the other person, AFTER the initial attraction stage.

Love of self, enables a person to INTERACT (i love what we do together), with the other person, without needing to TRANSACT ( i gave you love, so you now must return the same... ).


Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 1:03 PM

ive done that too eatroots and it does work...also one has to be slim, beautiful and sexy to carry it all off! its got nothing to do with personality or innerbeauty... afraid i cant carry this one off anymore!

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 23, 2008 1:03 PM

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 9:04 AM

Amander, you have it pretty right. Most people have a different perception of ourselves than is the reality. It is often the perception that we are average, in terms of body type, when we are in fact overweight or demanding a certain level of attractiveness of our potential partner when we in fact are not that crash hot to look at. This would explain the unappealing men 'kissing' you perhaps and also why those attractive enough for you are not.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at June 23, 2008 12:56 PM

Stuart: 'Then there is a girl I know who is absolutely gorgeous, perfect photos, yet she is on here (over a year now) and having trouble finding the one because the guys she wants aren't kissing her, probably think she is beyond their reach, and the ones who are contacting her are not those of quality and substance!'

Why isnt yur friend kissing the men she likes Stuart? maybe you should give her a nudge and point out that this is the 21st century!

Following from what eatsrootsetc. has written about dressing up, a quote from the (early) 19th century: 'Dress is at all times a frivolous distinction, and excessive solicitude about it often destroys its own aim. ..... It would be mortifying to the feelings of many ladies, could they be made to understand how little the heart of man is affected by what is costly or new in their attire; how little it is biased by the texture of their muslin, and how unsusceptible of peculiar tenderness towards the spotted, the sprigged, the mull, or the jackonet. Woman is fine for her own satisfaction alone. No man will admire her the more, no woman will like her the better for it. Neatness and fashion are enough for the former, and a something of shabbiness or impropriety will be most endearing to the latter.' My favorite author, oh what a wise women she was.

As for posting a pic thats 20 years old or one of someone else, surely better to post none at all and let your profile do the work for you.

Posted by: mandible60 at June 23, 2008 12:39 PM

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 10:05 AM


sheesh - typo after typo, i really need to proof-read - sorry about that chief...

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 12:07 PM

In my experience with this site and other online dating sites men are "shallow-Hals"LOL.They want barbie dolls,slim,atheltic,average builds,oh and they don't like intelligent women,there should be a part on the profile asking if you want a stepford wife lol.
There are also serial daters,men that say they are divorced and they are not.grrr.
I think there should be a new topic Rules for women about dating guys from online dating sites.lol
WEll happymum6 is dissolutioned mum.

Posted by: happymum6 at June 23, 2008 12:03 PM

I agree with malsie.
Ever been out to see that beautiful girl sitting alone? You think to yourself should I shouldn't I. Nah she will probably say no anyway. I think some of the prettiest people out there are quite often the lonliest.
How often do you see a pretty girl with what you think is a drop kick kinda boyfriend? Probably because he is the only one who has actually asked her out.
Unless you're a celeb or a footballer but that's a different kettle of fish and something
that most of us "normals" will never experience.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 23, 2008 12:02 PM

mandible, thanks for the new word.... I did look it up in the dictionary, and will attempt to work it into my everyday conversation - something along the lines of "is it particularly cold today, or do you have a vesicle, perchance?"... that should do it, I think.

Posted by: malsie at June 23, 2008 11:59 AM

Beauty is not necessarily of the physical
attributes alone.....and I think just maybe
Karina has baited you all with a red herring.

Unfortunately sites like RSVP imply that the better the packaging the more consumers will vie for the option of a closer "check-out".In reality it is only through contact via email,phone and finally personally that one can truly decide what type of beauty (physical or personality) is actually present if at all.

Regards packaging:ERAL@ 10.05 had it nearly correct in a couple of instances.
I agree with him that too many Australian women do not wear that special dress often enough........but maybe they've been brainwashed into thinking that by dressing "down" they are not contrasting too greatly with their current man.(smile)
For myself,when working on the farm I dressed appropriately to tasks ahead;the rest of the time I dress to feel good in myself,and not to alienate other women.

Getting back to beauty........hidden inside many toads you WILL find beauty..but only if you take the time to discover it.

p,.s Thank you to all you lovely (young) people who have sent kisses.......they were a treat for this old gal!

Posted by: kurli at June 23, 2008 11:46 AM

Mandible60
just a catch up from Mr right as i can't get posted over there.
Being an old Fox or old Dog does not make one a dumb old fox when it comes to sex and money.

It all comes at a cost and the eternal question for men is how much are you willing to pay for this experience and how can you avoid paying too much.
A young woman or an old woman can do the same , that is take you for a financial ride.My second last wife was 5 years younger and did just that.
My last wife was 27 years younger, died, and I have been in court for 3 years fighting for my day in the sun from what she left behind.

Mind you, if you are A man it comes down to money, you will never finish on the right side of the ledger so I see it as a somewhat hollow arguement when assesing relationships.
You see, Eyes aren't wired shut they are wide open and one sits back and thinks these days on how to protect ones accumulated assets.
Take the beautiful young or old , of course they have an advantage, it is easy to fall in love with a pretty face, but it is just as easy to determine if the relationship is only getting effort applied from one side and if it will last.

For me, I have a great smile, that attracts, but I get told there is a capital 'T' etched on my forehead for trouble which is just not true,but I use it to my advantage,sort of relationship escape clause.
Regardless, a pretty face attracts,gets more hits, is also under more pressure to keep changing men or women and thus is a hazard one has to be aware of when dating.
In other words I believe the pretty face stays on this site for a lot longer than an average to a pleasant face mainly becuase of the person knows they are always in demand, so I like to dump the pretty ones just when they think they have me by the throat,just to bring their ego's down a peg or two or three
On the other hand a pleasant face, coupled with a slim body,and nice attitude, really does it for me as it does to most men.

It is built into us, women look for men that look like adults, men look for women that look like children.
That is not my opinion , but the opinion of a well known personality who is quite famous for his teaching on body language.

Posted by: ichthyology at June 23, 2008 11:16 AM

"This topic makes me think of those sad people who post pictures of themselves 20 years younger than their current age."

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 23, 2008 9:58 AM

This is very true and I'm sure we've all turned up to meetings where we couldn't even recognise the person from their photo. Not a good start to a possible relationship.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 23, 2008 10:45 AM

What I'd say about beauty is - move outside your "comfort zone" (for want of a better word) a little. Some of the nicest women I've met through RSVP were ones who contacted me as I wasn't initially attracted to their photo so didn't contact them. I read their profiles and decided to meet them and voila .... they were truly beautiful women. So- men and women alike ..... be as open minded as you can be regarding looks and concentrate just as much or more on personality, common interests and goals, ethics, etc.

Obviously some people feel very strongly about some things such as smoking, weight, etc but try to be flexible and you might just get a huge surprise when you meet that person. Some of the most "beautiful" people don't actually turn out to be the most beautiful people.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 23, 2008 10:42 AM

I can also imagine that being a beautiful woman could also be a bit of a curse.
Just like being rich - you could never be sure what peoples intentions are .
Do they like/love you for you, or your body/money?

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 10:39 AM

I did some modelling in my early 20's and basically earned pocket money on my looks (I was married and had 2 babies during this time). I was always a little disconcerted when looking at the final photographs as that person was not really me. Even looking back at myself in the mirror (VBG-borrowed from kurli), that person was not me. Clothes, makeup accessories can alter our perceptions (and others') of ourselves. Can give us confidence we otherwise lack.
As for the picture used in the heading of this blog, she's a natural beauty; fresh faced, minimal makeup and a lovely smile.
Real beauty is natural and not contrived.

Estelle

Posted by: enrepres at June 23, 2008 10:35 AM

Of course there is an advantage to being beautiful, we see it daily on our TV and movie screens, the beautiful people who imitate how we would all like to be living... apparently. I watched an old 1945 film yesterday with Gregory Peck in it, now that was a beautiful man. At least thats how he came off to me on screen. Reality is always something different, isn't it. I know for a fact that I am exactly like my photos I post, and I'm not ashamed of it...well not all the time, I mean I need to lose weight, and most people probably look at my hair and go "huh?" The point is I think I am beautiful. If we allow other peoples opinions to dictate what we do in life, and how we perceive ourselves, we will always come off second best. Thats probably why most of my "in my own words" bits of profiles come off like I'm bunkered down in a foxhole waiting for someone to judge me. I seriously do not care what someone who does not know me thinks, and I want them to know it; I am only worried about what those who know and love me think. Sure it would be nice to have someone from this site, or the others I am on trying to find mates and more on would see beyond my photo, but the truth is they will not. BTW amandaongoldcoast, I think your photos are lovely, they show a free spirit and someone who doesn't give a rat's. And I do agree that this topic may be a little less than perfect in this forum. However, we need to talk about these things sometimes if we are going to come to an understanding of why these sort of attitudes prevail in todays society. Nowday's, beautiful is the new social discrimination. Think on that for a bit.

Posted by: bigheartedgal33 at June 23, 2008 10:35 AM

ERAL - There you go again. Remind of something else. Re TV. Did any of you catch the 60 minutes story last night on how our kids are being influenced and sexualised by the images they are bombarded with? Be it advertising, music stars, whatever. Bra's for 5 year olds, underwear with provocative messages aimed at 'tweens'. It really is all beyond a joke. No wonder our young ones do have such body issues and this ever increasing desire to look like the Paris Hiltons or whoever else is in vogue, as they think thats the look that creates success, and attracts the opposite sex.

Just how far can a society go? I guess the pay backs are becoming obvious.


Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 23, 2008 10:33 AM

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 23, 2008 9:59 AM

How Bridget Jones diary of you !

On the flipside - i went to the Sydney Biennale - Cockatoo Island on the weekend.
That isn't a good first date - a very unsettling experience - especially the Mike Parr (pratt) work !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 10:31 AM

The difference between a french woman and a aussie girl is that the french woman has one great dress, and she will wear it everywhere, even whilst cleaning her house, whereas the local gal will have a gorgeous frock, perpetually in the wardrobe, "that she doesn't have anywhere to go so she can wear it "

I love that rootsandleaves...................I love my nice dresses and the reason I wear them is as they make me feel happy.....a pretty dress can make any day a happy one..........I am miserable on days I frump it and put on the trousers and the strappy top in dull colours.

I do also notice on those days how shop assistants, male and female spend a lot fo time chatting to me. People stop me in the street to ask me where I got certain things from and how gorgeous my purse is etc etc...........you do get treated differently on the days you look good, I think we all notice that.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 10:26 AM

ERAL. Your post brings to mind an old saying, and it's one that I do like very much.

"Many a fine man is found under a shabby hat."

We are so quick to judge people by how they look, how about taking the time to get to know someone. There just could be that special gem awaiting.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 23, 2008 10:24 AM

Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 9:29 AM
I'm surprised by your attitude.

Posted by: kisskat at June 23, 2008 9:06 AM

I know; people can't stay on topic - i blame the remote control ( ask tassiedude - he has all the evidence)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 10:17 AM

A interesting observation i made a long time ago was that people judge each other by their 'cover' ALL the time.
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Its not so much 'beauty', which is more enthnological in its context; but more about attraction and status.

"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence in society. " ~ Mark Twain

I decide to test the theory our one day, dressing as flamboyantly to work as i could manage with my then meager wardrobe (musician).
Suited and polished, i made my way about town. What a day - Cars stopped mid street to allow me to cross, women flashed beautiful smiles and OPENED DOORS FOR ME wherever i went, service at cafes was attentive ...

The next day , i wore a casual black t-shirt and jeans , with sneakers and was near run down at the lights, nobody smiled at me, nobody opened doors for me, i had to jostle with other customers to get service.

I see the same behavior at nightclubs - the rich and famous, and the beautiful get preferential treatment,whilst the hoi polloi must stand, and wait in the cue.

A experiment was designed where two college boys were to enter a club , first in their own clothes , and then again later in expensive attire.
These young guys, in there clean and casual clothes( polo and khaki pants) were made to stand for 45 mins in the cue as the door biatch kept letting other past them (mainly women) - guys seen that happen anywhere ??
They gave up in the end.

They returned an half hour later - now dressed in designer clothes, 10k watches,styled hair and cologne, driving up to and parking in front of the club in a red Ferrari - the bouncer didn't even say a word , just immediately removed the rope bollard,and allowed them to immediately enter. The boys were amazed!
Not half an hour ago they had stood for 45 minutes in front of this very same person , so they figured he would immediately recognize their faces, and stop them, but no.
When the bouncer was interviewed as to why he had behaved that way, he said he didn't know - that he had figured that they were "private guests" and just acted automatically.

"It’s the same donkey, but with a new saddle." ~Afghan proverb

Trust me - dress up ALWAYS . The difference in how people treat you makes it worth the $$. I don't care if its superficial - the benefit is worth the effort.People don't even know that they are doing it - its become some sort of unconscious shorthand for dealing with people.

The difference between a french woman and a aussie girl is that the french woman has one great dress, and she will wear it everywhere, even whilst cleaning her house, whereas the local gal will have a gorgeous frock, perpetually in the wardrobe, "that she doesn't have anywhere to go so she can wear it "

"Women dress alike all over the world: they dress to be annoying to other women. "

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 23, 2008 10:05 AM

Thanks Virgil, I saw some of those...
BTW it is not a "toy" or "model", it is a real 1910 red rattler carriage all 18m x 3m and 35T of it! I have fully renovated the outside and am currently doing the inside.

Amanda, except perhaps for your Toung sticking out that photo is great... As the photographer it is possible to take really nice photos of most people, (except yourself) I do have a couple of great photos of me unfortunately they were of me in my wedding suit!

Then there is a girl I know who is absolutely gorgeous, perfect photos, yet she is on here (over a year now) and having trouble finding the one because the guys she wants aren't kissing her, probably think she is beyond their reach, and the ones who are contacting her are not those of quality and substance!

Having said that I am in full agreeance with iaminperth this isn't a great topic and the quicker we hijack it into something else the better....

Perhaps we could talk about how to get the best photos!

Posted by: creativestuart at June 23, 2008 10:04 AM

What is beauty to one - another cannot say.

But true beauty is inner beauty. A persons spirit. That's who they really are.

Oh I know there is all that visual thing (especially for guys) and I remember wanting to look like Jaclyn Smith (Charlie's Angels) or Jacki MacDonald (Hey, Hey, its Saturday). And yes, did try the hairstyles and clothes. Maybe it did make me look a little better but it's not until we get the real essence of ourselves and accept ourselves for who we are can perhaps our true inner beauty shine through. I certainly hope I am in that place now. Feel I am, or in the most part am. And I also feel that those two women I admired were more than just pretty faces. I admired them for a lot of reasons, and still do.

If a guy is only after true physical beauty, how shallow is he? Likewise for women only after that hunky rich man.

I know there has to be 'something' in the attraction and have found it hard to have conversations or chat with someone when I have not seen their pic. There has to be a spark of something.

Maybe there is still that judgmental thing. I hate to think that, but I guess you know when you meet. Either there is a little or lot of something there, or there isn't.

Often it can be the eyes. Mirrors to the soul and all that.

Here's a song quote which I love from Batchelor Girl. "Give yourself permission to shine." Because if you do that, then your real beauty will shine through.

Have a great day and week everyone.
If you want a fun day out in Melbourne, check out Circus Oz. Went yesterday and it was fabulous. Would be a nice date!

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at June 23, 2008 9:59 AM

This topic makes me think of those sad people who post pictures of themselves 20 years younger than their current age. I've also heard of one woman who posted a picture of model she found on a magazine. So when the guy went to meet her, he was shocked beyond belief.

It's a sad, sad thing to reflect on when people go to these measures because they believe there is an "advantage" to being beautiful.

Whatever happened to the old "you have to love yourself first before anyone else can love you" philosophy?

Posted by: lovemuzik at June 23, 2008 9:58 AM

i dont think the topic is inferring that the more attractive are the only ones who will succeed on a dating site.
to me it reads more like "beautiful people have it easy....discuss"
we all find different people attractive, however there are those who the great majority consider beautiful (apparently that is due to symmetry of the face).
if we have a good opinion of ourselves then what someone else thinks of us doesnt matter. if you think/feel you are beautiful, then you are.

Posted by: kisskat at June 23, 2008 9:49 AM

Youre welcome honey (malsie) N.b. the old saying about empty vesicles making the most sound (not a sp mistake of mine for once, look it up if your knowledge of anatomy isnt as 'hot' as certain peoples)

On topic -- yes most people probably do judge initially on looks, on this site and outside, whats new about that? Superficality is a human failing. But we can all see from so called 'celeb' relationships and how long they last that looks alone do not sustain a relationship once the 'honeymoon' period has past.

Posted by: mandible60 at June 23, 2008 9:44 AM

I think this topic is wrong and a whole lot of people who are feeling very apprehensive about this whole dating thing could be really hurt. I think this topic should be ditched straight away.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 9:29 AM

Just more on the photograph bit: We should have at least five photos, one when you first get up, one made up, business, social photos etc.,etc., details of all imperfections as well. These could be put into a special section of RSVP for where the brain dead so upthemselves idiots could apply. An addendum could be 'no personality necessary'. Get over yourselves, you're really looking silly now.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 23, 2008 9:27 AM

You took the words out of my mouth, WnW!

Whilst "beauty" may be in the eye of the beholder, to a certain extent subjective and someone can appear "beautiful" in our eyes when we love them whereas previously we didn't consider them so - there are some people who the majority of people would across the board agree on are "beautiful" or "very attractive". And these people would have a HUGE benefit on rsvp, that's for sure, because the photos is one of the main things that draws people in.
There would be some who wouldn't approach them because they'd consider them "out of my league", but if they were approached by the "beautiful" person are extremely unlikely to say "no", I would have thought. And yes, in all walks of life, various experiments have shown people who are "beautiful" do get all sorts of preferential treatment.

And thanks VDU and mandible for giving me my morning chuckle in the now closed blog re Marcus's anatomy ability .... thanks, guys, good for my liver!

Posted by: malsie at June 23, 2008 9:12 AM

woodnwine i wouldnt worry about the question too much. a lot of the blog topics have been dodgy over time, but you watch....within the space of a day it will be turned into something else that has nothing to do with the original topic anyway.....

Posted by: kisskat at June 23, 2008 9:06 AM

It appears so woodnwine.

I am going to take a potshot and say on a dating site, it just means there are a lot of disappointed people as everyone chases the same people. There are likely several very very beautiful women on this site who I would guess that men from all looks and age groups think they can attract.

I know I dont get too many kisses, the odd couple a day usually from wholly inappropriate men as I see it, but maybe I am just arrogant and think more of myself, so think balding, no neck, chubby and a moustache really arent physically a match for me. I feel a little insulted if I am honest with most of the kisses I receive. Thus my success on rsvp is going to likely be non existent as I either take a bad photograph or my attractiveness obviously only comes out in real life (as the men I attract in real life are much more attractive than the ones on here I seem to)...............plus its not my words and how I come across, as its not even like I am being browsed a lot.

I am okay though, so dont worry, I am not looking for advice.................I really can take or leave this as a way of meeting someone, if I do I do, if I dont I dont............but I guess how attractive we are and who we think we can attract can be very different to what we ourselves believe.

Posted by: amandaongoldcoast at June 23, 2008 9:04 AM

Katrina, Katrina.

More language mangling.
At least you didn't post a picture of a beauty. That person has a definite ET look about the eyes, and a mouth a couple of sizes too big for the face.

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 23, 2008 9:01 AM

Stuart

TW had some excellent ideas for some photo's for you in the now closed MR Right site.

Posted by: virgil at June 23, 2008 9:00 AM

Next question to be posted on an investment site

Is it an advantage to be rich?

Posted by: virgil at June 23, 2008 8:59 AM

Is this question for real? On a dating site?

Posted by: woodnwine at June 23, 2008 8:28 AM