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Broken wings,
Point one you are going and probably already have copped it from the non judgemental types here, still I hope you are many cup sizes smaller for having gotten that off your chest. Point two, congratulations for being so honest in keeping your profile open, that is proof positive of your integrity and honesty, which seems to be reasonably rare for newcomers to the blogs, the regulars seem to have an inbuilt detector for frauds and liars.
Point three, you have divorced so are flying under no pretences and seem to have decided to get on with life. Let that last post be the last post, on the past, I dare say the length and anger will be commented on long and loud. Enjoy the time blogging and learn from it, because you will find a lot of experience and sometimes wisdom can be had from it, then again some of the rat bags can be funny too, lol.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 13, 2008 10:28 AM

Woodnwine@8;25...blood oath,you're right there! ps,Marcus does come in like the tide doen't he?

Posted by: ssshhh at June 13, 2008 9:37 AM

Oh dear, a degree in psychology? all words have left me..........oh dear, very worrying!

Posted by: iaminperth at June 13, 2008 8:25 AM

brokenwings - it's sad to hear what you have been through but airing so much dirty laundry in public may not be good for you and your prospects. Remember many, many people read these blogs but don't actually blog ...... isn't that right?

Posted by: woodnwine at June 13, 2008 8:25 AM

brokenwings79 June 12, 2008 6:29 PM

Good grief. What did we do to deserve that rant? Which caravan park do you live in?

As a famous woman said "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discusss events; small minds discuss people."
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 13, 2008 4:10 AM

If someone is in a relationship of any kind, they are off limits.

If you can't respect that someone is in a relationship, then you are saying to the other person 1. you don't respect them, 2. you don't respect relationships and 3. that if they are willing to dump their boyfriend (girlfriend) to be with you because you're a better offer, then it's perfectly ok if they get a better offer than you, then it's ok to dump you.

would you like to be dumped for an upgrade? of course not. so don't ask someone to do it for you.

as for is it worse if they're married? of course it is. married people are off limits no matter what. even if they claim the relationship is over, it doesn't change the fact that they are married, and more often than not, the relationship isn't over, but like someone else said...

"they want the best of both worlds � respectable lovely wife at home looking after house and kids, but also the excitement and mystery of new conquests."

and it applies to both sexes.

the sad thing is, it is usually those who make the biggest deal about cheating and claims of being cheated on are those that are doing the cheating.

my husband threatened to kill my uncle for cheating on my aunt a few times - while my husband was cheating on me a few times A DAY.

the mistress he shacked up with when i asked to move out for a few weeks when he bashed our daughter, carried on all over the place about her terrible husband and "evil" neighbour who seduced her husband - while leaving out the reason her husband left her for their neighbour as because she'd spent the previous 12 months doing everything possible to seduce my husband. even using her kids birthday to try and get it onwith him and even abusing him because i said yes to her invitation to come so she couldn't get it on with him.

all her neighbour did was take a guy of a cheating wife who had already been married twice and slept with dozens of guys, while she seduced a guy with a loving dedicated wife who believes marriage is til death (not divorce like her) and as virgin when they married.

yet she carried on, publicly attention seeking about devastated she was that hubby number 2 left her for someone else WHILE SHE WAS LIVING WITH HER MARRIED LOVER.

then again, that homewrecker s**t isn't as bad as the one who seduced him when I gave him another chance when that one dumped him and he came crawling back.

the next s**t to seduce him was someone who I thought as one of my best friends. I'd offered her a place to stay when her boyfriend had dumped her because she kept getting drunk and abusing everyone every night (me included - she'd get online or on the phone and hurl all sorts of abuse, and the next morning not even apologise, just say "the alcohol made me do it, not my fault" .... yeah because I'm sure the alcohol made her drink itself to *sarcastic*).

She'd spent years going on and on and on about how the father of her child who she had a short term relationship with had "devastated" her by leaving her for one of her friends. she spent years saying she'd die before doing that to any woman, especially a friend, yet when it came down to it, she deliberately set out to seduce my husband even though i'd been the best friend anyone could ask for, putting up with years of her drunken abusive rants, comforting when her many boyfriends she tried to keep with sex got sick of her bad behaviour and dumped her.

she spent years saying her former friend who her boyfriend left her for was evil and deserved to die and the rest of it, yet she seduced my husband despite the fact i've been MARRIED to him for TEN TIMES longer than she even dated her ex. she'd slept with dozens of guys then (hundreds now, and without protection because she thinks that will make them stick around), yet six years later, she still carries on about how she's not over it, yet when she seduced my husband, a man I've been with ten times as long as she's been with any man, she's abused me many times for not "being over" him the day i found out he had been cheating on me.

not that her version of "getting over" a guy is a normal person's definition. her sick definition of "getting over" a guy is having casual sex with as many guys as possible. and anyone who doesn't have casual sex with as many guys as possible following a break up "isn't trying to get over it".

it's no wonder that she also has sick ideas that domestic violence is acceptable and normal. "all" her friends have abused and even assaulted their boyfriends/girlfriends at times, therefore its ok for her to do it to guys, and guys to do it to women other than her. and she has no problem with my husband having bashed our daughter because she's had her own taken away because she abused her own child.

i think, honestly, the situation is the same for girls and guys - the reality is there are homewrecking, backstabbing s**ts of both sexes out there.

people who carry on attention seeking for many many years if someone breaks up their short term unimportant relationship even though they have slept with dozens of guys and jump straight into casual sex, but who have no problem seducing a married man who has been married for many years, married a virgin bride who genuinely loves their husband, and even if they are lucky enough to find a worthy guy to remarry, still never get over the loss of their first husband.

there is something to say about muslim countries where cheaters and homewreckers get stoned... not like us western countries where skanks seduce friend's beloved husbands with absolutely no remorse at all.

Posted by: brokenwings79 at June 12, 2008 6:29 PM

Brain working, Daniel Kerr, working very hard with kids at the moment and I believe loving every minute.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 11, 2008 10:00 PM

I don't know Marcus, but the Weagles are doing a lot to lift their image in WA, Woosha photographed with daughter/recycling, One of the other stars, just got home from work, brain not working, mentoring children. Individually they are lovely people, but I think the club went off the line, not necessarily the individuals in it. I hope they can work together to rectify this as they have certainly taken a lot of hits and I just like to see people take that step and better themselves. I am not a football mad fan but I did like the Grand Final at Subi, it was good to watch. Not a lot to do in WA you know so a Grand Final is a really big thing in this town. John Worsfold doesn't seem remote though and doesn't seem to stuck on himself.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 11, 2008 7:58 PM

Woosha would be eating a bit of that Floreat icecream at the mo I'd reckon.

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 11, 2008 2:59 AM

funkdocta, the bad news is - yes. See what you have to look forward to? Not only a filthy planet, but all these tangled relationships. But the good news - it's up to whatever you want to make it - hopefully perhaps a glimmer of hope among some of the younger kids - not to follow the footsteps of their morality-free-zone/anything-goes-so-long-as-it-feels-good predecesors?

Posted by: riversong01 at June 11, 2008 12:08 AM

Thank you Virgil, that is such a nice thing to say. I think it's my own fault I am still single as I have met some awfully nice and very decent people on the site and a couple of have become very fond of. However, I think that maybe I have become a little too self sufficient over the years and I have always been very independent. The Weagles is just a term I use, I don't mean it in a derogatory way. The team uses the dog beach at Cottesloe sometimes for a run and they are all very nice natured people. John Worsfold sits with his son and eats ice cream in Floreat when he is really worried about something and I also work for one of their major sponsors in West Perth, that means free tickets to home games and also the guys come into the office twice a year to sign merchandise and bits of pieces for charity. I mean no offence by that term, it's just what a few of us call them.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 10, 2008 11:44 PM

Thanks river.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 10, 2008 11:32 PM

Is this some sort of joke? Why is it even a topic of discussion as to whether married people are off limits? Is this what our society has come to?

Posted by: funkdocta at June 10, 2008 10:28 PM

Virgil - there are multiple clones with visible profiles too - just takes more effort to scan in pics from the junk male :)

Posted by: riversong01 at June 10, 2008 10:16 PM

Perth,
careful lass. lol
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 10, 2008 9:31 PM

Perth

It mystifies me why you are still single, your comments here show you to be on of the most sensible people I have heard from.

The negatives are minimal, only one being calling Eagles, weagles.

Posted by: virgil at June 10, 2008 8:25 PM

Waterlilly

The reason many people are against hidden profiles, is that they are the vehicle of choice for the many people on here who seek to deceive others by the use of multi-profiles.

Posted by: virgil at June 10, 2008 8:18 PM

I think a lot of men like to pursue what’s unavailable – like dogs and cars, something about the thrill of the chase, plus the ego buzz of being no 1 kin pin. Yes, even a mate’s wife/girlfriend would not be out of bounds for them.

Why don’t they just leave missysterious72? If I can speak from experience with my ex - they want the best of both worlds – respectable lovely wife at home looking after house and kids, but also the excitement and mystery of new conquests. Some “alpha” type males are just like that – if they climb a mountain, they can’t just sit there admiring the view – need to find another challenge.

No, they won’t change. The best advice is to keep clear – no matter how gorgeous you might be – there is buckley’s hope of changing someone with a personality/attitude like that! They will always want more than they have, just because they can.

On the other side of it, I know women who stay with someone unhappily, while actively looking for someone else. Too scared to be alone, they have no problem with seeking to “upgrade”, and will hang in until they find someone better. I know one girl cheating on her lover of two years, while still with her long-suffering husband!

Everyone’s sense of morality and justice is different. Better when you search, look not just for the kind of person you like, but also for someone who is looking for the same thing as you. Recycled dating – complicated!

Posted by: riversong01 at June 10, 2008 7:41 PM

You haven't even the balls to have a visible profile let alone give Rastus (or whatever his name is) right of reply. Haha Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 10, 2008 1:43 AM

Balls? Wrong sex, L&T. I need balls about as much as you would use yours, 'babe'.

Why do people have to keep justifying hidden profiles on these blogs? It's not like they're the ATO or Electoral Roll, or anything important to anyone. You do take this all too seriously, L&T.

However, my profile was visible, until about the beginning of April, when I started seeing this guy. I then hid my profile, as I did not feel it was a fair deal to be advertising myself as a single, when seeing someone. He was not on rsvp - we had met socially - and he has had his right to rebuttal - privately.

When I decide to venture forth and start dating again, I will re-open my profile. As is my right. I'm sure that an ignoramus such as yourself can keep their offensive comments to themselves, maybe until you have my profile to rip apart with your 's_ iticisms"!

Posted by: waterlily58 at June 10, 2008 5:27 PM

If you picked a dirty slob as your boyfriend so why are you complaining:? Posted by: iaminperth at June 10, 2008 8:14 AM

As a general rule, he has always presented himself quite nicely. Until this weekend, we had been more social and out and about, rather than at home. So this new, slovenly side is entirely new.

Posted by: waterlily58 at June 10, 2008 5:03 PM

waterlily58 @ 2pm

I have a brother who did the same. His PJ's consisted of boxers and Tshirt. He would just put his clothes on over the top, he did this for about 4 days running. My sisters and I finally had enough, we cornered him and sprayed him with perfume. He couldn't get out of his clothes quick enough. He learnt his lesson. haha
Perhaps you should give that a try.

Estelle

Posted by: enrepres at June 10, 2008 2:26 PM

Women complain that men never change .... and men complain that women change. Oh well .......

Posted by: woodnwine at June 10, 2008 11:32 AM

Why would you want to be with such a dirty unkempt person in the first place ? I can never understand when women complain about things like this. Although sometimes I think it is the old theory that he will change. If you picked a dirty slob as your boyfriend so why are you complaining:?

Posted by: iaminperth at June 10, 2008 8:14 AM

lilypilly58 at June 9, 2008 7:25 PM

"..I can't quite bring myself to get intimate with someone who has not partaken of any personal cleansing or hygiene..."

Me too with the hygeine but now it seems even more unlikely. Weren't you telling us this opinion about your boyfriend of months?
Surely it was your bed he was dragging his butt to (in those never removed pjams;-] ).

C'mon bloke bashing lives Lillypilly. You haven't even the balls to have a visible profile let alone give Rastus (or whatever his name is) right of reply.

Haha Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 10, 2008 1:43 AM

WaterLily, while I'm loathe to agree with Marcus, can you be serious that you'll let a filthy sloth like that into your home??? Perhaps he presented well initially but if he's resorted to living like one of the great unwashed, I think it's time to have "the talk".

Eeewwwww!!!!!!!!

Posted by: victoriadownunder at June 9, 2008 10:55 PM

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 9, 2008 4:03 PM
No gratuitous bloke bashing, honestly. Believe me, I couldn't quite believe it myself. I've never come across anything like it.

I even asked if he would like me to wash said offensive garments while he took a shower. Nope. He was fine as he was.

I can't quite bring myself to get intimate with someone who has not partaken of any personal cleansing or hygiene. For that matter, it would be difficult to get too close to those odours.

Posted by: waterlily58 at June 9, 2008 7:25 PM

waterlily58 at June 9, 2008 2:00 PM

Come on now babe. That story doesn't quite have the Colgate ring of confidence around it.
Pyjamas under his clothes? Maybe his jocks; but PJs?
It all sounds like a bit of gratuitous bloke bashing from subterrania.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at June 9, 2008 4:03 PM

When to draw the line on pursuing a relationship?

When the guy you have been seeing for the last couple of months suddenly stops wearing deodorant (apparently it's winter so you don't sweat), stops using the toothbrush you left conveniently in the bathroom cabinet, and goes all long-weekend in the same clothes, without showering (you don't get dirty being a couch potato) and wears his pyjamas under his clothes (because its less to take off and put back on, and less for him to wash).

There is a lazy long weekend (with his butt glued to my sofa with the remote and tinnie while I fed him and cleaned up after him) and there is just pure, bone lazy.

Taking care of a slovenly pig is not my idea of pursuing a relationship.

Posted by: waterlily58 at June 9, 2008 2:00 PM

I think it's wrong to knowingly come between an attached/married couple.

Mind you there are plenty of people who list themselves as single on sites like this, when infact they are married and just looking for something on the side. These types of people are what I'd call players, they have no respect for other people or their partner by lying about their marital status.

Posted by: ellabella25 at June 9, 2008 10:09 AM

How cute is this.....you know how you get the pics of supposed matches on your homepage...the other day, my first one was 'eatsrootsandleaves'......supposedly 25ks away, but he lives northof Sydney and must be at least 50ks away.....one of my complaint points to rsvp.....mind you...his pic is very cute indeed....
Cheers,
B.

Posted by: bm1960 at June 8, 2008 7:53 PM

iaminperth...i used my previous picture as i thought that it might be different to some of the others posing (fake smiles for the camera)and saying nice things in their profile for e.g. looking for friends and when i send them a kiss saying "hi" they are just not interested and miraculously have found some one else !
.....im in the market for all kinds of interesting and witty friends but if something more were to eventuate there would have be a chemistry/physical attraction...ive been on rsvp on and off through many stages of my life, but have found someone before rsvp found someone for me! well now im seperated and i hope no one feels threated by that as im not divorced yet ...reason being im going to india and have been already so thats where my finances have gone...im glad you liked my pic:)

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 7, 2008 12:24 AM

Hello D, I think that is a much nicer photograph of you. I think a smile warms a heart quicker than anything else in this world. It's such a shame that people have forgotten how to smile, it doesn't cost a thing and is so welcome at times, especially on those days when nothing seems to go right.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 6, 2008 9:46 PM

hi, i tried to post my password on here but it wasnt published...did you try later? i shall try and post a smiley pic just for you iaminperth:D

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 6, 2008 9:19 PM

Yes please, I'm sure you must have them but you look very serious in your main pic.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 6, 2008 1:39 PM

iaminperth would you like the password to my smiley pics???

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 6, 2008 12:19 PM

and w/w i forgot to mention that his wife "kicked him out" his words and moved her bf in...the story was longer, but i had shortened it a bit...

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 5, 2008 11:16 PM

cutesmile, how come you're not smiling ?

Posted by: iaminperth at June 5, 2008 11:09 PM

no w/w they arent...he rang me 3 years ago saying he was divorced...but i have so moved on!

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 5, 2008 10:54 PM

I don't necessarily think that is true Woodwine. I think people can and do change, sometimes they grow up and realize they have done the wrong thing and sometimes the ramifications of their actions prove a real shock to them. I think everyone deserves a second chance in life.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 5, 2008 10:09 PM

Woodnwine- To true dude.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 5, 2008 3:05 PM

cutesmile - I wonder if they are still together.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 5, 2008 2:30 PM

maybe i should have placed my previous comment in the following section
"The only one who should have to pay for a bad relationship is the person in your next relationship

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 5, 2008 1:18 PM

ive been burnt rather badly many years ago when i moved to another country to be with someone who was still married and had been unhappy for many years with his situation and had moved out to be with me to the extent of proposing and planning a future together...we tried to start a new life, together with his kids, but his wife wouldnt give up and finally stole him back from me...lesson learnt!

Posted by: cutesmile52 at June 5, 2008 1:04 PM

tassiedude - Once unfaithful .... always unfaithful?

Posted by: woodnwine at June 5, 2008 8:11 AM

Grass cutting is a nasty business. Quite often it comes back to bite you in the ass!
Carma dude.
I fell in love with someone and stole her from her man. Seven years later someone stole her from me.

Posted by: tassiedude1 at June 5, 2008 12:28 AM

Thanks Woody, I like your posts and I used to live in Bris until 1995.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 4, 2008 1:54 PM

Yes perth, there are currently many hidden profiles for bloggers at present .... for many varied reasons. Me, I'm taking a well earned break but, as many know, I'm a 53 YO male from Brisvegas. I am also real as I've met many, many bloggers from several states.

Posted by: woodnwine at June 4, 2008 9:57 AM

Perth.
a good one, add to it and at the posted by line why not have "hidden" inserted too, save a lot of time checking it out.
Cheers OG.
ps, seems we have retrograded to the bad system of signing in trouble posting out.

Posted by: oldergent at June 3, 2008 11:37 PM

Do you think the guys with the 'no visibles' could put on whether they are male or female, or is it just me getting confused at times. I don't mind if people want to hide their profiles for whatever reason but would just like to know if the person is a guy or a girl.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 3, 2008 7:22 PM

Thanx AK...................

Posted by: twoeyes at June 3, 2008 7:36 AM

Nothing worse than someone hanging around playing the victim who is not wanted or needed any more. I believe it's a form of blackmail, I am here for you so you should feel sorry for me, and ha ha I've got you. Move on, don't turn yourself into a doormat, and sometimes a highly manipulative doormat, it causes a lot of angst and anger at times.

Posted by: iaminperth at June 3, 2008 5:05 AM

When the other person says they are not interested, by words or actions...easy !

Posted by: iaminperth at June 3, 2008 5:03 AM

I am thinking as well....thinking I have been a victim of sarcasm....
Cheers,
B.
:-(

Posted by: bm1960 at June 2, 2008 8:27 PM

BM, l am not sure who twoeyes was referring to, you or me with the sceptical comment, Not sarcastic towards you, at least l didn't think so :-)..................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 2, 2008 9:16 PM

Personally to me if anyone is married or in a relationship, they're off limits. Ofcourse if you're being lied to by someone then it's not your fault.......but from experience from another website that shall remain nameless - there are PLENTY of men wanting to cheat on their wives or significant others and think it's great!

On this particualr site, I got so bombarded by these men that I put in CAPITAL letters DO NOT CONTACT ME IF YOU ARE MARRIED/ATTACHED OR IN AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP (what the hell is that anyway???). Needless to say responses dropped off - LOL!!

What I don't get is why cheat on someone when you can just get a backbone and leave???? The hurt and absolute agony this type of behaviour causes is detrimental - especially if there are kids involved.

I have experienced being in a long term relationship (so basically marrried) and everything went to buggery. So many times I told him to go if he wasn't happy.
But he stayed and instead arranged his own WEDDING while living a lie with me to a woman overseas!!!! Good huh??

I only found out after we broke up and you know what??? I was still devasted when a mutual friend told me that. Even though the love had gone for me ages ago - it still cut me up inside.

So the moral to this sad story??? DON'T CHEAT ON YOUR PARTNERS - JUST LEAVE!! And to us singles who are just trying to find love or even a decent man/woman - don't go there - it's not worth it!!

Posted by: missysterious72 at June 2, 2008 9:06 PM

I am thinking as well....thinking I have been a victim of sarcasm....
Cheers,
B.
:-(

Posted by: bm1960 at June 2, 2008 8:27 PM

Ask me what 2xeyes ???
That you are sceptical, or that BM is ???
hhmmmm got me thinking now............K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 2, 2008 7:32 PM

Who's this Grace youv'e hooked up with BM. Carefull lass, two eyes might get attracted to her instead, specially if she is not as stroppy as you, lol
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at June 2, 2008 5:51 PM

Accepted, with grace, twoeyes, thankyou. Typing in capitals equates to shouting, according to internet etiquette. I wonder if there is an etiquette regarding the over use of exclamation marks that I am prone to...!!!
Have a good week all..
Cheers,
B.

Posted by: bm1960 at June 2, 2008 8:50 AM

and as as adjunct to anything previously posted..............................................I actually have a twin in real life.

not evil, female and a born again christian......................works as a nurse and can play the guitar and sing.

Also married and I envy her

Posted by: twoeyes at June 2, 2008 12:07 AM

Thank you for that twoeyes...it is always nice to be judged by someone who has no idea at all whatsoever about who I am...and the fact that you shouted it at me makes it all the more interesting....
I posted the comment with my tongue firmly in cheek. If your hahahahaa means you were joking back at me, well it still doesn't read as a pleasant exchange to me, but each to their own.....
Cheers,
B.

Posted by: bm1960 at June 1, 2008 12:40 PM

no seriously it was meant as a joke back at you , and i didnt know i had shouted.

most humble apologies to you. I think that you have a great insight and are very perceptive, along with a healthy dose of sceptisism...........truelly................ask aunty K.

Posted by: twoeyes at June 2, 2008 12:03 AM

Seriously, ER&L..... l think you took my comment the wrong way....................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 1, 2008 6:47 PM

auntykaz @1:37 PM
Hahaha- me too !

Seriously K - some people don't seem to understand" x- thanks, but no thanks" without trying to get up your bum...

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 1, 2008 3:45 PM

Hello fellow RSVPers, personally I believe that if you find someone is attached they should be left alone as it will free up more individuals for me to pursue, ho ho. Come on, it's up to the pursued to make it clear that they are unavailable, but humans being humans the dynamic of any interaction between two people can lead to all sorts of crazy capers..... It's genetic.... Men want to sow their oats to continue their genetic line and women look for the best "body/intelligence" to produce healthy offspring, add alcohol/drugs into the mix and wacko infidelity city. Ahhh but what about the rats that lie about their status you ask........ Well, I would suggest crucifixion, but that doesn't answer the question or dilemma... It is noted in most texts that the female gender have excellent skills in reading body language and intuiting when something is not quite right... and I focus on the ladies as it seems that it is customary that the rat is usually male, drown them all she cries!!!!!. So it's all about personal integrity, intuiting when someone is a "Rat" if possible, and taking a chance. It's a big wide world just full of rats... and you know how well they breed........ From the office of the Bastard.

Posted by: thebastard at June 1, 2008 3:33 PM

ER&L truly the epitome of the SNAG....
l think l am going to puke..............K.

Posted by: auntykaz at June 1, 2008 1:37 PM

2eyes, don't think l have ever been called formidable before.... :-)

At last l have a talent !!!....................K

Posted by: auntykaz at June 1, 2008 12:58 PM

(You're the evil twin aren't you?)
Ohh Beehave- Why must I be surrounded by frickin' idiots? !

(Never underestimate the choice of profile name.. it tells us a lot about the person behind it.)
Thats me in a nutshell: "Help! I'm in a nutshell! How did I get into this bloody great big nutshell? What kind of shell has a nut like this?"

(As some like to say.. what goes around, comes around.)
Au contraire baby, you can't resist me.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at June 1, 2008 12:54 PM

Thank you for that twoeyes...it is always nice to be judged by someone who has no idea at all whatsoever about who I am...and the fact that you shouted it at me makes it all the more interesting....
I posted the comment with my tongue firmly in cheek. If your hahahahaa means you were joking back at me, well it still doesn't read as a pleasant exchange to me, but each to their own.....
Cheers,
B.

Posted by: bm1960 at June 1, 2008 12:40 PM

hey twoeyes, I want one of those please, to cook and clean and to pander to my needs, wants and desires, physical or otherwise!!!!! I wonder if he is still out there and how many more toads di I have to kiss???
Have a lovely Sunday all....jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at June 1, 2008 9:38 AM

I so want to be an evil twin....have a nice one to do the cooking, cleaning etc....so I can get on with life without the mundane stuff!!!!! Sorry...off topic, but following the theme...
Cheers,
B.

Posted by: bm1960 at May 31, 2008 8:59 PM

NO YOU DON'T. YOU JUST WANT TO USE AND ABUSE A MALE FOR YOUR OWN NEFARIOUS MEANS, AND TO PANDER TO ALL YOUR DEMENTED PHYSICAL WANTS AND NEEDS, WITH NO THOUGHT FOR HIM................................................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: twoeyes at June 1, 2008 2:07 AM

There is a small country slightly east of here with an animal, that has a "penchant" for something similar.... but this one.......eats roots shoots and leaves"

We also have the greatest rugby team in the world, and know how to drink.

AK your on my team along with the OG. Formidable

Posted by: twoeyes at June 1, 2008 2:05 AM

No, eatsrootsandleaves..

You're the evil twin aren't you?
(let's face it folks.. do you like the ethic, or lack of, in the profile name?) Never underestimate the choice of profile name.. it tells us a lot about the person behind it.

cookscleansandtakesoutthetrash is your good twin, & just like in the fairy tales, the good guys always win in the end.

As some like to say.. what goes around, comes around.

Posted by: decoratress at May 31, 2008 9:41 PM

But.........BM, if you want to be the evil twin, you have to eat porridge with blood in it and live in the boot of a car. Might not be a big car even so that wouldn't be too good....methinks you should rethink
!

Posted by: iaminperth at May 31, 2008 9:19 PM

I wonder if anyone has a twin called "smokeandmirrors"....the one you blame when things go wrong and you don't want to take the rap..................K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 31, 2008 9:11 PM

ER&L, have you ever tried to ER&stay, or is that against your religion. Or could it be ER&chucked out. Are you looking for a heap of addresses to pop in and out, so to speak, rather like dip it here, dip it there.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 31, 2008 9:02 PM

I so want to be an evil twin....have a nice one to do the cooking, cleaning etc....so I can get on with life without the mundane stuff!!!!! Sorry...off topic, but following the theme...
Cheers,
B.

Posted by: bm1960 at May 31, 2008 8:59 PM

My evil twin, "cookscleansand takesoutthetrash- whom i keep in the locked in the boot of my car, and feed porridge with blood in it to keep him weak.

The rest of the family all went away ...

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at May 31, 2008 8:23 PM

Hi eatsrootsandleaves,
Do you have other family members with interesting names?

Posted by: amberlight58 at May 31, 2008 4:40 PM

Actually, if you MUST know, I was named after my grandfather "eatsrootsandstays"

My mother married Te Leaves, so i was named ....
;)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at May 30, 2008 10:49 PM

Yes lawofreturns,
I knew I had it wrong earlier today! I bought a copy for my kids, but since I've moved house, I can't find it. It is a very witty book, although I doubt the simple use of a comma could change eral's intended meaning!

Posted by: amberlight58 at May 30, 2008 10:43 PM

Virgil @ 10.58pm

I think you may mean 'Richard Dawkins'.

In the event this link works - www.ted.com - you can find him here, giving a very powerful talk on his perspective.

There are many other brilliant speakers featured on the site. I recommend it :)

Live long and prosper,
CW

Posted by: missannthrope at May 30, 2008 10:42 PM

PS Sorry about the typo.....just testing...yeah right

Posted by: lawofreturns at May 30, 2008 10:06 PM

Eats, shoots and leaves: the zero tolerance approach to punctualtion byt Lynne Truss. It is a humourous book about punctuation.

Posted by: lawofreturns at May 30, 2008 10:05 PM

iaminperth - I think EVERYONE noticed it .... that's the point.

Posted by: woodnwine at May 30, 2008 11:59 AM

He eats, he roots, he leaves....simple as that....!

Posted by: waterlily58 at May 30, 2008 7:49 PM

Okay guys, like duh!!! as my kids would say, having a blonde moment are we ? Point taken, I was only wondering...really !!!

Posted by: iaminperth at May 30, 2008 12:23 PM

Perth

I suspect that most blokes just wanted to leave that alone.

Sometimes that is exactly what the other partner wants, particularly in a long term relationship that is not live-in, and mid-week.

Works for both men and women, could be inappropriate at early stages of the relationship.

Posted by: virgil at May 30, 2008 12:14 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at May 30, 2008 10:58 AM

Or everyone else knew what it meant haha.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at May 30, 2008 12:10 PM

No, I wasn't criticizing your choice, just wondering why you chose the title, just curious that's all. Can you explain that ?

Posted by: iaminperth at May 30, 2008 12:07 PM

iaminperth - I think EVERYONE noticed it .... that's the point.

Posted by: woodnwine at May 30, 2008 11:59 AM

iaminperth @ 10:58 AM
lovemuzik @10:12 AM

Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
;)

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at May 30, 2008 11:54 AM

Hello Muzik, Rather unfortunate choice for a profile name I would think, however, each to their own I guess. Seems like you and I were the only ones who noticed it though.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 30, 2008 10:58 AM

Posted by: iaminperth at May 29, 2008 8:50 PM

Regarding: 'eats roots and leaves' profile name (again, but I promise it's the last time I'll mention it!)

Perth, please don't be embarrassed about finding out the real meaning behind it. Yesterday when I first looked at it, I only saw roots from the ground and leaves from the trees and nothing else too. It was only after I did a Google search on "eats roots and leaves" that I was a bit shocked to find out the 'real' intended meaning of the profile name. And that's when I typed in my post below at 10.14 pm.

So you're not alone in finding the profile name somewhat odd and interesting on first glance.

Posted by: lovemuzik at May 30, 2008 10:12 AM

Perth,
Try wombat, what does a wombat do, why he eats roots and leaves. That is the original nick name meaning. Truly Australian.

G.
Can't say that is one I have heard, what tune was it sung to. The skulls are definetely for fit, young,/old well trained atheletes
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 29, 2008 10:22 PM

Posted by: iaminperth at May 29, 2008 8:50 PM

I know you didn't address it to me. But...

What's another word for "roots"? You guessed it!
What's another meaning for "leaves"? You guessed it!

Posted by: lovemuzik at May 29, 2008 10:14 PM

"G", Thelma and Louise would pale into insignificance l am thinking.........K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 29, 2008 10:06 PM

VDU.. Thelma & Louise you say??? Could well be a plan!!!!!
Hah... this'll raise a few eyebrows won't it?? And we ain't sayin nuffink ok? ..
Yeehaa..."G" :-))

Posted by: amdoingit at May 29, 2008 9:58 PM

You can all have your skulls.. Never did have a crack at it I'm afraid.. I just sip away, sip away and then slip away before anyone notices that I'm turning into a mushy mama.... "G"

Posted by: amdoingit at May 29, 2008 9:55 PM

2 x i's..... I did a roadtrip with one of the rugby teams when I was over there coaching a girls college in the late 70's.. Lad's taught me one of their road songs about an engineer and his "Bloody big wheel"..Nearly died when I first heard it but was water off a duck's back, so to speak, by the end of it. Ring a bell?? ....... "G"

Posted by: amdoingit at May 29, 2008 9:51 PM

Posted by: mgtow at May 29, 2008 1:22 AM

I agree with you completely!

Well Put!!

Posted by: creativestuart at May 29, 2008 9:28 PM

eats roots and leaves.........now that's an interesting profile name, may I ask how you came up with that one ?

Posted by: iaminperth at May 29, 2008 8:50 PM

Oh, thanks, OG, you never know l might just come out in front.................K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 29, 2008 8:19 PM

Well 2eyes, it is light beer now, much easier on the digestives..............

Posted by: auntykaz at May 29, 2008 8:13 PM

Hi twoeyes.
We all get old mate, now that was a good effort. Especially if not followed by the technicolour spit, the burp was regared as the victory roar, so long as it wasn't followed by the spit. Never seem to see it played these days. It was the repacharges that were the killer, of course followed by the mandatory filthy songs so beloved of the heavenly game and favourites of the particular battalion. Geez its good to be a bloke.

Kaz you could be in our team anyday.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 29, 2008 8:05 PM

hey there og was a time when i wasnt to bad at all either but have gone off beer pretty much thesedays.

Only claim to fame was beating a team of five by myself, and they were drinking 5oz beers and i was drinking 7's...

3-nil the final score, and only a massive burp to show for it, generally done after a rugby match.

Posted by: twoeyes at May 29, 2008 6:29 PM

Kaz,
Good effort, but hard to beat 8 no swallows,lol
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 29, 2008 5:52 PM

Different is good, "G", but what about "unusual"??...............K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 29, 2008 5:22 PM

OG, it used to be 3 some years back,and won a competition with that time, but now 4.....Not bad for 47 l think anyway.......Still reckon l could put a few of the lads to shame..............K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 29, 2008 5:14 PM

enrepres -
the reference, was Oscar Wilde's.

Quote me, as saying I was mis-quoted.

Nice to meet you all.

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at May 29, 2008 3:36 PM

K...am at work between clients (slap on wrist) and you are right..Maybe interesting was incorrect.. How about "Different"??....."G"

Posted by: amdoingit at May 29, 2008 3:27 PM

"I can resist everything except temptation."

This quote is by Oscar Wilde which - I think - is quite relevant to this blog in a disturbed sort of way.

For anyone who is interested...to find the source of a quote, enter the whole quote in quotation marks in a Google search.

Happiness to you all beautiful people!!!

Posted by: lovemuzik at May 29, 2008 12:42 PM

Adelaide Bloggers Meet

I feel Saturday 28th June would be the best time for the bloggers meet.

It would be necessary for any persons wanting to be a part of this to contact me vie email to find out details

Posted by: virgil at May 29, 2008 11:47 AM

The other blog closed, and it seems what I said was OK, so I have copied and pasted here.

Posted by: virgil at May 29, 2008 12:28 PM

eatsrootsandleaves @ 1.23am

"When one is in love, one always begins by deceiving oneself; and always ends by deceiving others."
Is that quote yours? If not, whose is it, please?

Posted by: enrepres at May 29, 2008 11:47 AM

Kaz.
4 seconds only got you on the reserves bench in our Sgts mess sculling team. True P...Pots and gentlemen to the core, and done in our Blues.

Hi Wombat,
Do you eat sage and other fibrous things too, lol
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 29, 2008 10:33 AM

MGTOW & Eatsrootsandleaves

Very interesting posts and profiles, I'm sure you will have much success with the women of RSVP, and your humour and different perspective will be appreciated by many here on the blogs.

Posted by: virgil at May 29, 2008 9:48 AM

Now they're all coming out!

Posted by: woodnwine at May 29, 2008 8:08 AM

mqtow & eatsrootsandleaves - are you two one and the same? Just wondering. No matter of course. Seems half the bloggers on this site have multi-profiles. And certainly seems you are a combination of wit and intelligence. Excellent!

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 29, 2008 7:58 AM

eatsrootsandleaves - 1.23am. Yes, what you say - that's powerful!.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 29, 2008 7:34 AM

mgtow - 1.22am. Good answer and good profile. Hope you continue to post. Think you could make things fun around here.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 29, 2008 7:30 AM

"When one is in love, one always begins by deceiving oneself; and always ends by deceiving others."

Tip: If you feel you can't openly tell other people about your 'special someone', then your probably doing something wrong.

Karma: appears the world is divided into good and bad people.The good ones sleep better... while the bad ones seem to enjoy the waking hours much more !

Posted by: eatsrootsandleaves at May 29, 2008 1:23 AM

REAL MANS RULES

( applicable only to when you are AWARE this woman is in a relationship )

1. Never mess with another mans woman
2. See rule 1

consequence if rules ignored

well if you mess with another mans woman and he hunts you down and physically disables you for life or he empties both barrels of a shotgun into your testicles then you deserved it

You are however exonerated if you have been misled by the woman in question and deceived as to her relationship status

Posted by: mgtow at May 29, 2008 1:22 AM

On topic...what constitutes a relationship?
The one hour first coffee, first or tenth dinner, sex?? If this is undefined, how do you know whether to move in or on?
The example used of the girl with boyfriend could be seen as a fob off or honesty, subtle questioning to determine the seriousness or commitment is probably worth the effort. Married or living together, for me a no go zone, patterns of behaviour are too evident.

Off topic... Am sure I read recently that The secret, which started out as a dvd initially and then as a book, was now under litigation from an Australian Publisher. Seems the book was initially written some years ago by an Aussie woman who later withdrew it due to some nasty publicity. Someone involved with the publishing of the initial book, then at a much later date produced the dvd and only offered it online, but then when it got commercially viable it did go into mass production, world wide distribution and she then wrote the book and claimed it and all the money. She did not throw it out to the universe but to a world full of hungry self helpers who jumped on it and made her and many others very wealthy. Thus proving The Secret works!!
In my line of work I see hundreds of examples of how mind sets alter day to day life outcomes. The mind is the most powerful determinate in our existance.
Cheers.

Posted by: lifebegins47 at May 29, 2008 12:24 AM

OG, if you can down a pot in 4 seconds l am sure you will be well liked....or a glass of bubbly......
"G", are you sure that interesting would be the correct terminology??
Possibly "overawed" may be more appropriate........K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 28, 2008 11:24 PM

G.
especially if I help that diabolical fiend in his midnight escapades. I cut all the ropes off the Carrilions and he stuffs up, with his scientific knowledge the electronic ones. See a fussion of the normal ,us supernaturals and the unbeliervers is possible, as long as I am in charge.

G, there might have been a couple of hundred times I might of not have been a little nice (no more) but hell "me semonising". I would have to leave that to my mate Marcus ( sorry Virg) but expertise will show out.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 28, 2008 11:23 PM

OG

Fence hopping doesnt really work, My main team is the Eagles, over here I go for the Crows, except when the Eagles play the Crows, so round 2 at AAMI stadium, off I went in my Eagles shirt hat and scarf.

Sat in the AAMI stadium members area and barracked for the Eagles.

The following week, along I went as an Adelaide member and cheered as Adelaide beat Port.

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 11:09 PM

Marcus

I have read and enjoyed several of Bishop Spong's books.

I intend to see if my local Library has some of John Dawkins books soon.

I found his TV programs interesting, but think there would be more substance in a book where he has space to properly argue his case.

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 10:58 PM

Bob, hope both yourself and Marcus do go..Should make for a fun weekend...Well, interesting to say the least. My god, could end up a mass invasion of sorts. I doubt Adelaide would ever be the same..

Now Bob, you need to play nice, ok? I think you're over dramatising slightly aren't you? There shouldn't be time for sermons from anyone!!!!!

Cheers....."G"

Posted by: amdoingit at May 28, 2008 10:49 PM

Kaz,
as long as you are going to take the whoopee do, I am bloody sure I would also like to meet you, the rest of the ladies and my friend green eyes. Also Kaz I can call in at any Pub and get directions, but might be a bit late at the function, see not all us men are frightened to ask directions. The big question remains "would you like me, lol"
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 28, 2008 10:43 PM

Oldergent, what about taking with you a gigantic sense of humor, a street directory and a whoopee cushion..... You never know, you might actually like it...............K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 28, 2008 10:06 PM

Marcus @ 7.29 pm.
Noticed your ref. to "I sprong U" amazing that he is still attracting adherents in Aust among the gullible believe any thing types.
Noticed with interest this blog love fest that our Virg is organising, now if you can make it I would endeavour to get over there ( I have a beautiful pair of green orbs I would like to check out if she goes) to hear the Pastors sermons on fence hopping, (without attracting splinters) and adoring adulation of the couple of his parishoners. Apart from that we could discuss your aspects of science against my proven gems of the paranormal. In all it should be an enlightening and informative weekend, no boxes of tissues, bring big absorbent towels.
as may be required by the howls of laughter or rage
Cheers mate OG.

Posted by: oldergent at May 28, 2008 9:41 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I have a pretty simple rule.
If she's in a serious relationship or married, definitely a no go area. (Of course a relationship is different to just dating, but if she considers herself as having a boyfriend then that's a relationship.)

(Mind you I also refuse to date anyone I work with so maybe it is just me :-D )

Posted by: seekin at May 28, 2008 8:56 PM

oldergent at May 28, 2008 6:48 PM
Don't worry Ogre, your pension is safe but the One Who Matters has taken note- so your prestige is good with Him.

Pastor.
You mentioned Bishop Shelby Spong who is practically unrecognizable as a theologian. Some have suggested he is recovering from Christianity but does not want to jeopardise his super.
A lot of 18th century researchers and scientists were Pastors and Clergmen and atheists because that income was as close as you could get to a research grant then.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 28, 2008 7:29 PM

A couple of early 30's girls from Sth Yarra I knew in 1980 when I had just moved to Melbourne weren't afraid of interfering with men in a Godly monogamous relationship.
These 2 were getting visited by a couple of young bike-riding LDS (Mormon) missioning men who had decided that they needed salvation. Patsy and Bronwyn had both been raised Catholic so knew all about sin and over a matter of weeks passed some of this intimate knowledge onto the lads.
After one Wednesday, which apparently included a visit to The Argo pub, their education was completed by the girls and were seen no more. A later chance encounter found that these boys, despite believing all the nonsense from Salt Lake City were unable to pork pie to the elders and were relieved of duty.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 28, 2008 7:22 PM

Stoic,
Had a similar situation in a National state managers meeting, the presentation was a doodle and I knew it, the big problem was "question time" thought long and hard how to beat the detractors. Finished up saying "questions" took my dentures out and said "promise not to bite anyone's nose off. By the time the laughing had stopped, time expired, and walked away clean. Always the humourus and unexpected wins
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 28, 2008 6:59 PM

Marcus.
not true about people donating money for prestige, the last time I donated $20million it was done "anon" I didn't want to jeapodise my pension, but I gained a lot of points in my afterlife, which you skeptics will never see,
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 28, 2008 6:48 PM

Jen - Positive thinking is fine as long as you see it for what it is - a good frame of mind.

Where it might help is say for example you have a presentation at work to give. If you go in cool and calm thinking to yourself "I can do it. I know the material I am presenting. I know my slides, and I can explain the more complex parts.", you are going to do better than if you go in thinking "Oh my god. I don't know this properly and everyone else knows it more than I do and I won't be able to answer any questions".

But that is it. Once people start giving positive thinking magical properties that can cause anything to happen if you just think positive hard enough, it is well into the range of bullshit.

If anyone fails at some task or goal, I am willing to bet it is not a lack of positive thinking that caused them to fail.

Good work on the door knockers by the way. :)

One thing to try is answering the door with a kitchen knife in hand saying now is not a good time, then have a mate yell out "I can't get this blood out of the rug!" or off the walls or whatever. Some absolutely priceless looks as you slowly close the door :)

Posted by: stoic at May 28, 2008 6:25 PM

mystiemuse @ 1.37pm

Nothing taboo about relationships with separated men just as long as they're not still living at home with the ex to save paying rent.

karma + slaughtered innocent animals = saturated fats + bad cholesterol = heart disease & death

Estelle.

Posted by: enrepres at May 28, 2008 4:34 PM

Hey virgil, like the fish and bread thing. A little slight of hand and good marketing hehe.
It's not the fact that's important, just the perception.
Troy
Posted by: troyohboy at May 28, 2008 1:20 PM

Troy you wouldn't want facts to spoil a good story, but the bread & fish thing, not sure of the culture back then, but how many women would go for a picnic in the country without a picnic basket, but then probably, as today, most blokes wouldnt think about it, so maybe the miracle was that Jesus got everyone to share what they all had?

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 4:32 PM

woodnwine at May 28, 2008 3:02 PM

Cheers. The 'alternate' view? I think showing it as nonsense it is the only logical, rational view of Karma. It doesn't make sense and neither does the concept of an afterlife, except in the sense our genes, which our bodies are vehicles for, are passed on.
People do good for sensible logical reasons that like most of our behaviours have sound evolutionary underpinnings, not mystical, deified ones.
For instance doing good deeds, you elicit trust by demonstrating a capacity for altruism. People do good deeds in order to win prestige, that through indirect reciprocity they can later cash as a more practical good. These are sentiments and behaviour designed for a purpose. I am an altruist. Trust me.

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 28, 2008 4:27 PM

Virg, Enlightenment is central to buddhism

Posted by: iaminperth at May 28, 2008 4:08 PM

marcus - you surely must have been good at debating when you were at school. I think you could take the alternate view on almost anything and run with it. Just for entertainment, of course.

Posted by: woodnwine at May 28, 2008 3:02 PM

Post @ 1.18PM; Oops: said Learn’t and should have said learnt, haha.
On topic now; “I would not and will not interfere or intervene in someone else’s affairs of the heart”.
If everyone lived by that quote, then there would be a lot less unhappy and negative people in relationships that have started off from jumping the fence.
It is the start of negativity, and negativity breeds contempt.
A successfull relationship survives on trust and respect through the bad times.
Who would ever want to really be a contributor to someone else’s misery or pain, just because of a hormone attack?
There are plenty more fish in the sea, why bring someone else’s trouble into your life, only brought on by interfering and intervening in someone else’s relationship.
Unless a man has been single for a long while, divorced etc, then I feel that he may have resolved his issues with his past. But to bring a new person into my life that hasn’t had time to resolve their issues with the ex is just the start of a bandaid relationship eventually wearing off.

Posted by: lonelyheart44 at May 28, 2008 3:00 PM

I think it is hilarious how, off topic, you guys get. I suppose Karma can be related to moral dilemas, which is what I think this is about. I myself will not even consider an "actively" married man, but I ahve been out with quite a few who are separated. Does that mean I am still doing something taboo, because they have not taken that last step? Personally I don't think so but I am sure there are those that do.
As for Karma, I believe that negativity attracts negativity, and that being positive allows us to be free enough to get what we want. Although on here, it seems that all things can go out the window. Where are all the kisses and messages that have been meant for me...........anyone seen them, I am positive I was supposed to have lots...hehe.

Posted by: mystiemuse at May 28, 2008 1:37 PM

Marcus

I think that the idea of Karma is fairly central to buddhism, but I might be wrong.

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 1:37 PM

Hey virgil, like the fish and bread thing. A little slight of hand and good marketing hehe.
It's not the fact that's important, just the perception.

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at May 28, 2008 1:20 PM

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 12:28 PM

I think your right there Virg, its just a party trick methinks.
I learn't that tongues was only used to spread the word of Jesus' teachings of that time to get the word of Christianity around until it was known through out all the nations by every tongue, and when that was accomplished the use of tongues was to be done away with.
The gift of tongues was only given to the believers of that time, a majority and particular number, and when they died the gift was done away with.
It was documented that it was only for that particular time, and for only that particular purpose. Nothing else.

Posted by: lonelyheart44 at May 28, 2008 1:18 PM

Karma, one good turn deserving another, whatever it is called, simply the personal satisfaction of doing an act of kindness, a good deed is really what matters, isn't it??

Terribly simplistic view, l know, but don't we get bogged down sometimes in the literal rather than practical aspect of helping someone?????...................K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 28, 2008 12:52 PM

i was handed a pamphlet on the train this morning, by a middle aged woman who just said, read this it is interesting.

It had stories of several people receiving miraculous cures, for all number of things, and speaking in tongues.

When Jesus gave his followers this ability, it was for a purpose, to tell people of other lands about him.

For those people who claim to do that these days seems to me to be a bit of a party trick. Maybe it is?

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 12:28 PM

istj54 at May 28, 2008 9:45 AM

Buddhism is not a religion, it is a philosophy even a 'technology for mind improvement'.
It is not based on the teaching of a divine authority, (Buddh never claimed to be sent from God) and among others is not dependant on self referential statements and doesn't attempt to supress reason by dogma.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 28, 2008 12:02 PM

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 28, 2008 8:08 AM
Thats an interesting thought about the door knockers being put to the test.
I have done the same thing, and even though the Mormons seem like nice guys to talk to they couldnt answer all my questions.
However, you may have found the Jehovah Witnesses were tough ones to crack. They had an answer to all my questions. I couldnt wrong them on one question, and the answers they showed me were right there in the bible.
Must say I'm much better educated on the subject now. Lol

Posted by: lonelyheart44 at May 28, 2008 10:01 AM

About 10 years ago, there was a series of books called the Celestine Prophecies, one of the things discussed, involved people becoming involved in meditation, and other kinds of spiritual practice.

The idea being that the dominant culture, ie whatever is pre-existing pours much scorn on this stuff, as quackery. However, it resonates well with the general populace, such that it gains more and more acceptance, till it reaches a "critical mass" where it becomes either the dominant mindset, or at the least, accepted as mainstream.

This is the process that science became accepted, then mainstream, then dominant culture starting around the 15th or 16th century.

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 9:49 AM

I thought that the Buddhist Religion was largely based on Karma...could be wrong.

On topic...if you are young...or old...and there is no ring on the finger and you are both attracted...then why not?...could be meant for each other and miss out on a great thing...However, if there is a ring on the finger...stay away...bad karma!

Posted by: istj54 at May 28, 2008 9:45 AM

"I totally believe in karma, I also believe that karmic debt is not exclusive to this life nor are the lessons we've learnt or have to learn. Karma is more of a philosophy than related to any book religion. The power of positive thinking, and collective thought is ture and an amazing tool. The secret was a money making venture for someone and hasn't anything to add that we didn't already know. I.m sure everyone has been in situations where a person or persons attitude or demeanour has altered theirs and those around them. Either in a negative or positive way"
Posted by: tra71 at May 27, 2008 10:38 PM

Good summation, I think .... well said.

Posted by: woodnwine at May 28, 2008 8:43 AM

Oh Stoic - 12.17am. I don't see why one's belief needs to be kept to oneself. If everyone kept stuff to themselves we would never grow and learn.

Oh, and re the door-knockers, I quite like it when they come over and then I give THEM something to think about. I have even been asked to speak with their higher authority, because they couldn't answer MY questions. LOL.

Have a good one!

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 28, 2008 8:08 AM

Marcus - Yes maybe Rod Stewart tickets for some would be bad karma, but for me very good karma. I still think he's 'got it". And actually think he was much better this year than the last time I saw him probably about 10 years ago. Very funny comment though. Loved it!

Karma may be a quaint religion on some level, but so what? If it works for me, it works for me. I don't need to know how it works. I can simply accept and appreciate. I am not like you and have to know the workings of everything. Though I have done a lot of reading on subjects that interest me, and I suppose self-development is one of those.

To believe in Karma certainly does not mean that the only reason one does good is the belief in a reward somewhere down the track. For goodness sake - I've been bad, very bad in life. That's how we all grow and learn.

The eating of meat - Yes I do eat meat. Believe we wouldn't be given the teeth we are if we were not meant to eat meat. That doesn't mean I have to agree with the practices in the way the meat arrives at our table. Of course I am disgusted in any cruel activities directed at animals. But there are only so many causes one can be involved in. Guess mine is poverty. And that is where our time and energies are directed. There are heaps of people out there for the welfare of animals. And I appreciate all people do for something they are passionate about.

Oh just re the meat thing - maybe all the health problems we do suffer as a community does have a lot to do with our meat intake. Simplistic I know and of course obvious in lots of cases.

The JenniferHigh - Like that too! Have been wondering what change of name I would eventually get. Laughing way out loud here! Please continue to call me that. I like it! Guess I can be airy fairy to some degree, but don't worry I have my feet firmly on the ground too!!! And my airy fairy stuff has lots of base to it also. Not going there with you (just yet). Don't know if I really should put all 'my stuff' out on the internet. lol. But put it this way, I certainly have had some amazing paranormal things happen.

Stoic - I don't mind you critizising 'The Secret.' To me, all I was saying is that I think it simplifies the process of positive thinking and goal setting in an easy to understand manner for people. And hey so what if the producer/author made a fortune out of it. Ultimately what she did was produce goodwill around the world and good for her! Also if you were to write a book/produce a movie wouldn't that be your goal - to make it the most successful you could? I think so.

What the Secret has done is simplify that which so many of us know. The Power of Positive Thinking. The works of the likes of Norman Vincent Peale, Napoleon Hill, David Schwartz, Wayne Dyer, Bernie Siegel to name just a few. I can't believe you haven't read any of their works. You certainly seem to me to be the type who would read this stuff. And always be looking and searching for answers and the stories of successful people.

Got to get my son to School, but hope this answers some of my critics.

Have a great day all.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 28, 2008 7:55 AM

Baggage...

I am starting to see some truth in the 'baggage' comment. If you need to talk out the separation then do it with a counsellor not with someone you met on RSVP. I am happy, well adjusted and I thought baggage free. I am now seeing how much luggage I pack in my trunk. Having said that I have also met long term divorced women with much more baggage than me, it is not a timed thing.

I was talking to my latest last night and she said that she does not want to hear about my past, she wants to hear that she is the one with the right stuff to make a relationship. She then began to tell me about some of her past relationships, you know I totally 'get it' now. It is about living in the moment not regaining the past.

No relationship is perfect what does each bring to the table and is the meal right for both people.

Posted by: myarmsaroundyou at May 28, 2008 7:27 AM

Thanks FLL, I suppose I was harsh.
My marriage was over long before the 'official' seperation. This is why I probably dealt with it better. My 'amputation' was suddenly being alone after nearly 10 years, cold bed, shopping , clothes all the things u do together.
Loss of the house, lawyers, loss of 2 'furkids'.

As for not making the same mistakes it is actually harder then it sounds, there was no defining moment or 'fullstop'. One day we just realised it was over - officially.
BUT I have had woman comment about my baggage. There is no baggage I don't have feelings for her, pine, or cry over it. To me it is finished and I want to move on.
I have good memories and it wasn't always bad. I accept that I made mistakes.

But I want to start the next chapter of my life. asap.

Posted by: tomidb9 at May 28, 2008 1:49 AM

jenniferhigh at May 27, 2008 8:14 PM

I'm glad you have cleared up how that Karmic Law of the Universe works and and given some good, clear examples. Einsteins E=MC2 seems under serious threat. I would have thought that someone (a 'random'?) who gave Rod Stewart-at-a-winery tickets away was guaranteed bad karma; only slightly less than if they had been, say for Lionel Ritchie. ;-}

Seriously though Karma has got to be a quaint idea for a little religion. Who administers it? In order for the good deeds to be rewarded and the bad deeds punished there would need to be a huge battery of spy cameras, each watching an individual and programmed with a list of good and bad behaviours. These would be operated by a moral philosopher who would feed his observations into a gigantic tracking data base which then determined who, what, when and where punishment and reward should be meted out. No?

Really though if you are going to make a suggestion about extraordinary or supernatural control you have to be able to offer some evidence or suggest how it might work.

Karma belief suggests that the only reason you do good is because you believe you are being watched and expect future reward.

I assume you eat meat and like most of us have been thus responsible for the enslavement, captivity, ritual slaughter and then consumption of dozens of innocent animals. How does this sit with Karma do you think?

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 28, 2008 12:40 AM

VDU - of course she can. But I reserve the right to comment, particularly when I am told a magical force is having any effect or control on me. Though I did say if it brings them comfort and they keep it to themselves then all well and good.

However, I react the same way when someone is knocking on my door trying to tell me of their particular deity's plan for me.

Doesn't mean we can't still contribute to the blogs :)

And sesquipedalian76 - as stated I only really watched it through the Shadow War so I only have recollection of Sheridan as Captain :)

Posted by: stoic at May 28, 2008 12:17 AM

Science

About 100 years ago, they were going to close the patent office, because everything that could be invented, already had been.

Similarly, because we dont understand something now, doesnt mean we never will.

It must be very limiting to only believe in things that can be proven by our current understanding of scientific theory or fact.

Needless to say, much of what is written in the Bible could better be understood by treating it as a story, rather than a truly literal interpretation.

Good to approach things with an open mind.

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 12:14 AM

Karma

Whatever the actual reality or otherwise of karma, is I have often felt when I do a good deed for someone, that it is not necessary for that person to do the same for me, as somewhere some how the universe/God or whatever will send good my way.

Posted by: virgil at May 28, 2008 12:01 AM

Karina

This theme seems to follow on well from the Cheating blog of a few weeks ago.

With the huge amount of single people around, surely pinching or attempting to pinch someone elses partner is a very low act.

Posted by: virgil at May 27, 2008 11:56 PM

I think that this is a pretty simply question, for me at least. As someone who believes in the principle of monogamous relationships and in the integrity of those relationships, I would not pursue someone who was already in a relationship, nor would I wish to be pursued by such a person. As far as I am concerned, anyone who is already committed to someone else is out of bounds.

PS: Hey stoic, Sinclair or Sheridan? ;)

Posted by: sesquipedalian76 at May 27, 2008 11:21 PM

Easy there Stoic, you're a man who chooses to follow your preferred path in life and I admire you for that. Can't you let Jen follow hers? It might not be to your way of thinking, but if belief in Karma brings her some pleasure or comfort, isn't that okay too?

Posted by: victoriadownunder at May 27, 2008 11:14 PM

Hi Tomidb9 - I did say I don't totally discount separated men either, it depends on the individual, personally I look at every one that kisses and/or emails and tries to weigh it all up.

If you have achieved an equitable & fair separation, fairly amicably since February, good for you - you have gone a long way further than a lot of folk - male or female.

However I want to meet someone interested in a relationship with me, not someone interested in rehashing/reliving events of some recent past relationship, which sadly happens all too often when people cannot move on. It wasn't a dig at all separated men.
I note your description of 'the amputation' of your life of 8 years - it sounds traumatic. There must surely have been good times, mutual friends retained... don't sever those experiences, take a look at when and where it went wrong and promise yourself you won't wait so long before acting one way or the other next time. Good luck on here and take care : - )

Posted by: firelightlady at May 27, 2008 11:14 PM

It seems to me that a lot of relationships simply run out of puff. Two nice people, good people basically living separate lives under the same roof. So many stay together because it's easy, or the children, pets, mortgage whatever. When they do decide to separate physically they really have been separated for a long time emotionally. I don't think you can put a time frame on dating after separation because of this. I know a lot of people who have gone their own ways after long term marriages, divided up proceeds sensibly and done the right thing by each other for th sakes of their children. i think children of all ages are a lot more accepting when they see their parents behaving in a sensible manner and also a lot more accepting when each finds a new partner in the future.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 27, 2008 10:43 PM

I totally believe in karma, I also believe that karmic debt is not exclusive to this life nor are the lessons we've learnt or have to learn. Karma is more of a philosophy than related to any book religion. The power of positive thinking, and collective thought is ture and an amazing tool. The secret was a money making venture for someone and hasn't anything to add that we didn't already know. I.m sure everyone has been in situations where a person or persons attitude or demeanour has altered theirs and those around them. Either in a negative or positive way

Posted by: tra71 at May 27, 2008 10:38 PM

Bit sorta harsh firelightlady.
I am seperated have been since Feb. It is over
done and dusted. We have sold the house split the assets and moved on.
My ex has a new partner and although we're not best friends we are not enemies. The reason we split is we simply fell out of love, our lives and interests started going in different directions and it was now past the point of reconciliation.
How long is it before (I) can date again then?
Neither of us played up on each other.
I am looking for a partner and am over any mental anguish I had. Not for her but the amputation of my life of 8 years.
Why does there have to be a time frame on me finding someone to love again.

Posted by: tomidb9 at May 27, 2008 10:30 PM

New Norcia sourdough bread is much nicer though and that would cost you about $12, very worth it though. Very nice to have it with chilli mussels, or better still drunken mussels, bit of garlic butter and a couple of glasses of wine, yum!!!! oh oh, there goes another couple of kilos, or should I say here comes another couple of kilos, I really must make the effort.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 27, 2008 10:20 PM

The Secret, Karma, universal laws, Babylon 5 and Star trek?!

Hmmm - as someone once said I forget whom; '...the harder I work the luckier I get...'

OK, back on topic; if you meet someone who is in a committed relationship and then suddenly it is all about 'your future together' my first mental prompt would be what happens next time this occurs?? It is not karma it is a repeating pattern of behaviour.
Personal differentiation is about ones own value system in the face of what is happening.

I don't tend to date separated men as they are often pretty conflicted or incredibly avoidant about cutting ties if it is a long separation. Don't totally discount them either.
Sizing up men already in relationships is simple gluttony; one is single and can have anything, so will have everything regardless, a bit like those people that just keep going to the buffet when they cannot possibly finish everything on their plate.

As Stoic says it is all about being able to meet one's gaze in the mirror. Anything else is just comforting mind chatter.

Amazing everyone talks about karma but what of samsara and nirvana, dharma, and desire being the root cause of all suffering? In hoping (as many do with a degree of indignation) for karma one misses the entire point of the Buddhist principles.

Smorgasbord religious beliefs... I am thinking of taking up Thor though as I need Thursday off, maybe a quick Up Hellya! in the Coomera river and it will all fall into place...

Posted by: firelightlady at May 27, 2008 10:16 PM

Ha Stoic, like l said that may be why l am such a negative wee girley......l didn't buy it .........
However l did stumble upon one in an op shop by the Dalai Lama about the art of being happy...... thought to myself, well it is only $2.50, so bought it..... started to read it last week but haven't gone back to it... been stuck on a David Baldacci novel that l can't finish as well........ maybe l have a concentration problem !!!!!................K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 27, 2008 10:11 PM

I was in the situation where I could have been unfaithful. If I had pursued it then I would have ended my marriage sooner but with a lot more guilt.

I can sit here now saying that I found a person that told me my marriage was lacking and I talked about it with my wife. We went through extensive counselling in order to regain the feeling but too much damage was done, trust was gone both ways. We ended it and are now struggling with friendship.

If I had pursued it with the lady that lit my fire I would never trust her. She had left her husband to be with me, will she do this with me. Would she trust me, would she worry every time I was with another woman.

Nope leave well enough a