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HaHA Captthunder.....sort of like a Rocky movie, or a character from a soapie who leaves and is replaced.....by someone looking different but still the same character underneath...........HAHAHAAAAAA ........K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 7, 2008 6:31 PM

Someone once said to me.. "stay away from the blogs.. they will destroy your confidence in the goodness of people"

It was Lurker of old (profile lyingcheat)...
warning me against himself, as the king of false profiles.... hahahaha!

Posted by: decoratress at May 7, 2008 6:04 PM

Cap'n T. at 12.47: Troy beat you to the draw, Captain, but he didn't manage to get it off the end of the Richter scale. Well done sir.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 7, 2008 5:24 PM

iaminperth,.. added to your comments on How to make man's happy?

3rd - Be a "Chef " and Door Mats.

Posted by: moneysex at May 7, 2008 4:32 PM

captthunderbox @ 12.47pm...

hahaha.... you got it!

It just keeps on comin back..
...and back..
...sigh

Posted by: decoratress at May 7, 2008 2:54 PM

How to Make a Woman Happy

It's not difficult to make a woman happy.

A man only needs to be:

1. a friend
2. a companion
3. a lover
4. a brother
5. a father
6. a master
7. a chef
8. an electrician
9. a carpenter
10. a plumber
11. a mechanic
12. a decorator
13. a stylist
14. a sexologist
15. a gynecologist
16. a psychologist
17. a pest exterminator
18. a psychiatrist
19. a healer
20. a good listener
21. an organizer
22. a good father
23. very clean
24. sympathetic
25. athletic
26. warm
27. attentive
28. gallant
29. intelligent
30. funny
31. creative
32. tender
33. strong
34. understanding
35. tolerant
36. prudent
37. ambitious

38. capable
39. courageous
40. determined
41. true
42. dependable
43. passionate
44. compassionate

WITHOUT FORGETTING TO:

45.. give her compliments regularly
46. love shopping
47. be honest
48. be very rich
49. not stress her out
50. not look at other girls

AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST ALSO:

51. give her lots of attention, but expect little yourself
52. give her lots of time, especially time for herself
53. give her lots of space, never worrying about where she goes

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT:

54. Never to forget:
* birthdays
* anniversaries
* arrangements she makes

HOW TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY

1. Show up naked
2. Bring Alcohol

Posted by: iaminperth at May 7, 2008 11:54 AM

Think I just put a comment in here that was intended for the "cheating" topic... hope everyone was able to make the cosmic leap to realising that.

Posted by: malsie at May 7, 2008 11:06 AM

What about the concept of "what they don't know, won't hurt them" - a wonderful little abrogation of responsibility and self delusion. Is that akin to if a tree falls in the forest and no one sees or hears it, did it ever happen???

Posted by: malsie at May 7, 2008 10:53 AM

Posted by: moneysex at May 7, 2008 9:48 AM

It has returned and, I would suggest, making even less sense.........were that possible. haha

Troy

Posted by: troyohboy at May 7, 2008 10:33 AM

Perth @ 8.01pm: Hi doll! Sorry - you got that bit all dead wrong.

1) I was just being naughty and giving the Bombeshell a bit of a stir/ leg-pull. For the fun of it. Deadpan style. To ease the boredom.

2) Don't wear them actually, except when I go out of the house. Scottish ancestry.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 6, 2008 11:20 PM

woodnwine..

er..definately not woodnwine..I prefer my relationships to simmer like slow cooked food....

in future I had better resist throwaway lines..especially if it is going to hook the literal minded..

cheers..NWx

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 6, 2008 10:19 AM

Sometimes the topic gives a hint fro an interesting thread, Is it easier to establish boundaries if you meet the person online?

Maybe it could be, if the boudaries are set before the coffee meeting.

A one night stand sounds a bit tacky to me now, whereas when I was younger, it would have been OK.

I think that it is because I am a bit older, have a better sense of self worth, that a one night stand now, would give me less than I feel I am worth. The cost would outweigh the benefit.

It seems there are mutually exclusive options, if you go down one path, you cant go down the other.

Some would say that is not the case, but self respect and confidence are fragile comodities (ask the West Coast Eagles how confidence takes a battering if under constant attack for a sustained period of time).

Posted by: virgil at May 6, 2008 10:03 AM

naturalwoman - definitely attainable if that's what you are after.

Posted by: woodnwine at May 6, 2008 9:02 AM

yawn yawn, TW with his knickers in a twist yet again!!!

Posted by: iaminperth at May 6, 2008 8:01 AM

waterbombe @ 7.35pm: Thank you for your tart response to mine of 12:37am last night.

Yes it's true what you say, and I'll go a lot further.

You and I have each told the other off, for what we perceive as exhibiting inappropriate attitudes.

1) You've got into me a few times (with noticeable heat) about my use (about half a year ago) of a certain piece of non-PC terminology,

Behaviour which I have, in deference to your hair-trigger sensibilities, BTW, ceased to exhibit. Check the archive if you don't believe me.

2) But I've responded to your visible attacks on me by repeatedly flagging what I see as your disproportionate and counter-productive obsession with one certain minor verbal signal.

A signal that only indicates that some men have some issues with some women that sometimes result in derogatory name-calling against that woman, and/or, after that event, against women in general.

First I tried humour and a little light teasing ("the Doberman Sisters guarding PC City".)

And then last night I finally honestly and bluntly called you for what I believe you are doing - wasting all your visible crusading energy on focussing on one of the "trivial many" overt signals that some men sometimes resort to name-calling, when some women displease them somehow.

Big big big enormous monster deal!

Oooooooowah!

What about the fact that women's verbal abuse of men is notoriously as prevalent as men's physical abuse of women?

And that the men's physical abuse is often their response to ongoing unbearable verbal goading which they are too inarticulate to match?

And what about concentrating on the "sticks and stones that break women's bones", rather than the "names that don't hurt" any person who has unilaterally decided of his or her own free will, to accept the old cliche I'm talking about?

I'm on your side, Waterbombe, but I believe you're wasting your time (and ours) by concentrating rabidly on one small part of the shadow, and none of the substance.

Let's see you get fair dinkum about crusading here against worse things than the other-gender equivalent of

allmenarebastards.com

- the name of a book which was a best-seller about 8 years ago.

Guess why? Because it resonated with women. Because that's what too many women say all the time.

Often because that's been their only experience to date, and it's human nature to extrapolate generalisations to infinity.

.............................................................

So let's have a campaign to eliminate verbal abuse of men by women, so that inarticulate men will in future have no excuse for physical abuse of women!

And let's begin by banning every woman in Australia from ever calling any man a bastard!

And Waterbombe, if you won't back me on that one, you're just a one-eyed sexist special-pleader for one selected gender.

Your move, ma'am.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 5, 2008 11:36 PM

Re the spiders: when something is a phobia, it is no longer a matter of logic, but of reaction; possible to overcome with some form of desensitisation, but no amount of logcial self talk of "it's harmless, it can't hurt me," etc, will work. Mine isn't of spiders, but of rats. I'm sure they are perfectly entitled to be on earth as much as anyone, but I have a huge physiological response when I happen to see one. Where I worked once, one scuttled past and within 2 seconds I'd jumped onto my chair like the stereotypical pictures you see of women jumping onto chairs when mice are around - I was amazed to find myself there. There was no conscious thought involved at all!

Posted by: malsie at May 5, 2008 9:45 PM

redgem..

your welcome..

NWx

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 5, 2008 9:38 PM

One night stands and spider bites - yes I really can see the relevance....NOT!

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at May 5, 2008 8:26 PM

Naturalwoman08 -That was lovely, ty. Shows how words CAN heal.
Marcus do I take that as a compliment? Too late I already did. Blog phenominum... tee hee.
Ret.

Posted by: redgem65 at May 5, 2008 8:18 PM

Oldergent @ 2.53pm. Cheers mate. White-tailed spider I think. Will email you direct if I can find it.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 5, 2008 7:43 PM

Marcus, I agree with you here: Richard Dawkins. Big personal influence. Fantastic clear thinker and world champion debunker and explainer. Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 11:46 PM. Dawkins would be worth a read, Virgil.

TW, I think you are never going to see sense without jumping to a further illogical conclusion accompanied by insults. There is no point trying to communicate with you.

Posted by: waterbombe at May 5, 2008 7:35 PM

Well.. maybe to inject a little clarity in here..(not that its needed..ofcourse)..I thought maybe these beautiful WORDS..not SWORDS may be appreciated..(for a wee while anyway)..!

Desiderata..

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.

If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 5, 2008 7:30 PM

woodnwine..

God..are they still attainable when you get older? :))

NW

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 5, 2008 7:08 PM

oldergent at May 5, 2008 2:53 PM
Ogre. There are all sorts of things you need to watch out for.
Up til recently the culprit for a skin rotting bite was the White tail. These have now been counted out. I lifted this from the MJA.

Innocent: a White-tail spider (Medical Journal of Australia)
"The White-tail spider, whose bite has been blamed for cases of flesh-eating ulcers for decades, has been declared innocent following methodical Australian research.

Not one of the 130 white-tail spider bite cases in the study, the first of its type ever conducted, had any evidence of necrotising of the skin, researchers report in this week's Medical Journal of Australia - a publication that was which was itself partly responsible for the original accusation."

The article goes on to say that an extremely uncommon non-native spider called the Reclusive spider is the probable culprit.

When I catch a White tail here I transfer it alive to the little lizards where they make a happy meal of it.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 7:04 PM

jenniferhi..

I admire your ability to fight off warrior spiders..but if I have to fight off anything with more than two legs I run!

NWx

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 5, 2008 6:58 PM

jenniferhi at May 5, 2008 4:20 PM
They find lots of convenient places inside to make their livings and to shelter. Some types specialise and they live almost nowhere else but with people in inhabited houses. Areas around windows are popular because they are insect (prey) traps. Some types, White tails around here, come inside to hunt other spider species.
Like a lot of places in Australia my house has a small population of Marbled geckoes which I occasionally see. These little lizards are almost exclusively spider eaters so help the balance.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 6:51 PM

Taurastruckie..

mmm..you're off to a great start..women love a man that learns quickly!..well done!..

just a couple of comments..being ever so pedantic here..sorry!..but..how 'bout capitalising your i's..just a pet peeve..do you really need to use every category in 'You should be'..I got dizzy skimming through!..

also..I thought your original profile contained some lovely descriptions..maybe you could include them in with your current musings..

keep on truckin' taurus

cheers NWx

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 5, 2008 6:50 PM

OG @ 2.53pm...

If it was about 1-2cm long, black & had a white dot on its abdomen.. it was the infamous White Tailed Spider, responsible for many cases of flesh necrosis.

Opinion is divided as to whether the spider is poisonous, or carries a virus.. as some people have no reaction to the bite, whilst others have severe flesh deterioration only halted by chasing it with skin grafts. The damage done, in some cases, is horrendous.

These spiders , like huntsmen, are not web-spinners, but 'hunt' their prey. Also like huntsment, the bottom surface of their feet is harder than web-building species, which make them impervious to surface sprays....

...treat with caution!

Posted by: decoratress at May 5, 2008 6:13 PM

laughsandtalks @ 2.14pm...
"A counsellor friend has just emailed me to say that from her professional point of view star signs are a helpful prompt to get people talking about themselves.."

ok, Marcus.... and....?

"Melbourne AGE today:
'AFTER angry Chartwell investors stormed the company's offices, they told a newspaper they had found documents outlining the astrological profiles and mood patterns of investors, and that sharemarket trends posted on the office walls were aligned with lunar charts.'"

Well.. it seems like 'MrChartwell' was a total idiot, doesn't it..
.. plenty of those around in Financial Services!

Posted by: decoratress at May 5, 2008 5:49 PM

Oh and Jen, l ain't playing at being the helpless female, l really am when it comes to spiders, but only the bigger kind, smaller ones l can handle......tis just a thing l can't shake............K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 5, 2008 5:39 PM

Hey, Marcus nothing really just a question is all... l lived in glenroy for several years as a young girl.
Re the Outlaws, l at times go to things at the Hastings chapter, my G/f's brothers are all longstanding members and one is the Pres.
Funny but l always feel very safe when there.......despite their reputation......

Jen, my fear of spiders is, l know, illogical however l can't help it...Have had a few biggies in the car recently, one was the week before last on my visor.
The term "shitting myself" didn't quite do it justice and did have to pull over, A nice young man came to my rescue.. he had no choice really as the car was abandoned across a road.....Give me a mouse or snake anyday........K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 5, 2008 5:27 PM

I think one night stands may be exciting when you are young but as you get older they surely lose their appeal.

Posted by: woodnwine at May 5, 2008 5:26 PM

Marcus - A question re spiders. I know we are getting way of topic here but I am always open to learning.
Why do spiders come inside? I know they often do just before rain. And when they do come in, how is it they never know the way out again? Because if we don't put them out they always end up dead somewhere.
My best effort with spiders was a few months ago when I had one in the shower with me. Saved him and got him out. Then had two in my car. Saved them also. Must admit though, they do give you a fright as the walk across your windscreen, especially if you are driving at night. Lol.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 5, 2008 4:20 PM

I have a series of photo's of a man bitten on the left thumb by a spider I cannot identify. It shows the incremental putrification of the thumb, down to the bone and and up towards the wrist. Pity we can't have a facility to post (approved naturally) photo's, so it is pretty wise to treat any unknown type of spider with suspicion. It did look a bit like a non furry hunstman but with a thinner back end.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 5, 2008 2:53 PM

G'day Marcus,
just going through your post at 7.54, didn't get right through it as I could not remember most of the names of the space craft used in the flights, could you help me remember please, also please don't feel bullied by me if you can't remember.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 5, 2008 2:38 PM

redgem65 at May 4, 2008 3:38 6:15 PM

Reg. IMHO you are in danger of becoming blog phenomenon.
I did appreciate the comments you made about charity and sex work the other night. The mentally retarded and moderately physically disabled 30 something brother of a friend has an occasional visit where he is kept sane and sexually satisfied with a hand job and a pair of real breasts to fondle. For a long time this free therapy was kept a secret from his disapproving-because-religious parents.
Anyway for someone who is self describing as unqualified to comment on Astrology you are doing a fair job.

Here is one that popped up today regarding a Geelong Investment company that has lost clients a reputed 70 million.
Melbourne AGE today:

'AFTER angry Chartwell investors stormed the company's offices, they told a newspaper they had found documents outlining the astrological profiles and mood patterns of investors, and that sharemarket trends posted on the office walls were aligned with lunar charts.'

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 2:37 PM

auntykaz at May 4, 2008 7:39 PM
I am familiar with Glenroy. To the NW of the People's Republic of Moreland where I live. Why?
I am also familiar with organising or instigating, attending, and the consequences of large, informal social gatherings. I am also familiar with bite/suck marks on my neck.

I have never seen such a ridiculous post-party commotion as the one that followed that Narre Warren lad's show. You would have thought a couple of babies and several local pets had been spit roasted and consumed and the inhabitants of a nursing home attacked. (at a party I part organised the spit pig I inexpertly set rotating caught fire and nearly burnt my bungalow down- we had 250 people in the backyard, including AFL footballers-and nothing degenerate happened) Numbers where high, but considering, behaviour was good. Given the amount of that notoriously deadly, consciousness altering, inhibition lowering, nervous system depressing, party drug A. it was a suprise no one drove a car into the crowd at least. If you want a wild rage, a country town bush party can't be beaten; or a good outlaw bikers do.
Sorry, I will go so far as to say that parties these days are tamer, better organised and the behaviour is quieter than in my heyday or night. Something needs to be done.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 2:17 PM

A counsellor friend has just emailed me to say that from her professional point of view star signs are a helpful prompt to get people talking about themselves..

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 2:14 PM

Here here Decoratress, I'm with you. I too have noticed these traits and just find it interesting. I don't judge people on them but give them the benefit of the doubt. Neither do I read the daily paper to see what one person says IS going to happen to me today.
Red

Posted by: redgem65 at May 5, 2008 11:13 AM

Decoratress - I guess I was a bit over the top in my comments there about spiders. Sorry Kaz! But I suppose it's that I just can't stand it when women play the helpless female and the big strong man has to come 'save' the day.
But I do really believe in a lot of cases when you project an image like that, that your children (in most cases) pick up on it and then it becomes the norm for them.
I suppose I have had fears in the past, but through doing a lot of self-development now have the attitude to go for things in life.
A great book and I love the title "Feel the fear and do it anyway" Love that!
Used to be petrified of public speaking - but made myself do it. And each time gets that little bit easier.
I think though that our inner-child is still within us and a lot of our childhood stuff is hard to overcome/shift. And I still can be quite shy.
Will continue to work on that. I am always open to the new and feel we never stop learning and growing. It's never too late to overcome a fear.
Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 5, 2008 10:44 AM

hahahaHAHAHA.... MARCUS! (@ 7.54am)

..lighten up, for goodness sake!

"typicalgeminiwithscorpiorising" was tongue-in-cheek... you are much too sirius!

- I'm impartial.. I don't have a 'side of the fence' with this one.
- I don't 'follow' horoscopes.
- I began to NOTICE correlations 30yrs ago, not 'believe' in them.. they 'interested' me.
- I claimed only that my personal interest had revealed a remarkable commonality of traits within sun signs. I can only comment on my personal experience, Marcus.. that I found it an intriguing subject.. with nothing scientifically proven, nor disproven.

"Astrology is a cancer on proper psychology" is a little.. um.. dramatic, don't you think?
..& "dangerous", I would suggest, only to those who blindly follow any belief. There are plenty of ads for the 'Most Successful Clairvoyant in the World'... used, no doubt, by the same people who religiously live their lives by horoscopes.

"Astrology diminishes astronomy".
How is this, Marcus?
As you've said, astronomy is a respected & validated science, is it not? How could astrology, unproven as it is, "diminish" it?
No need for such a long defensive post.. I have great respect for astronomy, & all it's scientific achievements.

Anybody with even basic knowledge of astrology knows that 12 'boxes' don't exist. The sun signs of the zodiac are the most basic simplification. Astrology uses your exact time & date of birth, & the positions of the planets at that time.

As I said in my post.. I don't profess to understand the science (if any) behind it.
However, as someone pointed out, the Moon certainly has a marked effect on patients in psychiatric facilities. This is well documented.
Perhaps (as I also said..) the time will come when we acquire more knowledge.. & discover the scientific truth of the matter.

Until then.. I remain interested in the subject.. & keep an Open Mind as it were..

Do you ever cry, Marcus?
Sorry.. but the thought just struck me! I don't remember your ever displaying any emotions or 'feelings' in your posts..
..though perhaps I missed one somewhere, hahaha?

Science is not the sum of human beings.. not in my view, anyway.

Posted by: decoratress at May 5, 2008 10:13 AM

Marcus & Twoeyes
Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 8:08 AM
Sorry about the inaccurate quote.

I was looking to see if the Compass show was being repeated at another time as they sometimes are, bur couldnt see it.

Posted by: virgil at May 5, 2008 10:02 AM

I checked your profile to see if the above comment had any basis in fact, only to find it hidden, therefore not verifyable, (will have to go on Marcus' previous appraisal of your looks "a rougher head than mine", I think was the assessment).
Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 10:25 AM

Give him some leeway..
I think I said 'nearly' or 'almost as rough a head as mine'.
MS

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 8:08 AM

about whom are we speaking there??????????????????

Posted by: twoeyes at May 5, 2008 9:29 AM

jenniferhi @ May 4, 10.45pm...

The 'spider thing'...
I was always the spider catcher in our house.. yep, a glass & cardboard's the way to go (or a punnet if it's a particularly huge huntsman..) !

But it's not only women who have a fear of spiders.. as a child, my ex had a wolf spider jump on his face.. which (naturally) didn't endear them to him.

The only spider I ever had a problem catching was a bird-eater.. in our tent.. in the SE Qld bush.
Now THAT was a spider!!
Far out.. hahaha.. we stood outside the tent for half an hour, me holding a bucket & kidding myself I'd scrape up the courage to pin it against the roof!

..& no, I didn't!
..It was the size of a dinner plate & had black bristly legs larger than a man's finger!
Caution being the better part of valour, it seemed wiser to prod the tent (nervously) with a stick (long) until it strolled out & wandered off into the darkness..
..& no, we didn't close our eyes at all that night.. waiting for it to wander back in!

Arachnaphobia is the most common fear of 'crawlies'..
I'm sure it's something about the way they move - even I don't choose to pick them up bare-handed as I know some people do.

I think everyone has a particular 'bete noir'... mine are leeches & ticks. If I had one on me, I would find it challenging to 'get over myself & remove it'..! No doubt I'd manage.. but I do have empathy with those who need spider-catchers! Personally, I'd always appreciate a leech-remover in a leech emergency!

These aversions are not always rational or easily overcome.

They don't always transfer to the kids, either... I have a friend whose daughter, rather than show the same fear, quite happily removes spiders for her "wussy mum" as she affectionately calls her!

Do you have an irrational fear of anything, Jen, or are you irrepressibly fearless?
If you are.. I take my hat off to you!
(..if I was wearing one of course..)

Posted by: decoratress at May 5, 2008 9:25 AM

I checked your profile to see if the above comment had any basis in fact, only to find it hidden, therefore not verifyable, (will have to go on Marcus' previous appraisal of your looks "a rougher head than mine", I think was the assessment).
Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 10:25 AM

Give him some leeway..
I think I said 'nearly' or 'almost as rough a head as mine'.
MS

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 8:08 AM

Decorateddress decoratress May 4, 2008 12:44 AM

If you already regard yourself as a typical horoscopological whatever, then you can hardly claim to be impartial, and it follows, scientific. Properly designed scientific experiments have repeatedly failed to show what you claim about sun sign traits. Saying you are "...interested in this correlation" ipso facto indicates you have made up your mind that there is one... 30 years ago.

You say that; "... I don't believe current lack of proof necessarily disproves a theory. Surely that's the attitude of an inflexible mind?" is worth having a look at.
Of course a current lack of proof or evidence doesn't disprove a theory. What is the theory for a start? I don't think we even have a hypothesis let alone a theory for Sun sign astrology.
To take a hypothesis seriously it needs to be supported by a bit of evidence. A reason why it might be worth looking for evidence. What possible connection might there be between your birthday and a view of the northern hemisphere sky and planets, and the light of 'constellations' of stars in the Magellenic cloud? These pricks of ancient light are galactic fossils and so distant that if the news of Jesus' birth (if it actually occurred) 2000 years ago travelling at light speed (300 000 k's per second) would not be any where near reaching many of them.
There is no inkling of a rationale that might make it worth investigating; say compared to something far fetched like "too much exposure to the light from our local star (the sun) can cause serious illness".
Astrology diminishes astronomy. Astronomers easily and reliably use their equipment to tell you the exact chemical composition of any star they can detect 'light' from. How much hydrogen, helium,carbon, nitrogen, iron, iridium, uranium etc. They have been able to do this for over 50 years. We have unravelled the genome, put men on the moon, made nuclear weapons. With this sort of scientific horsepower, 'proving' astrology would be a doozy and all the more because of the money to be made from accurate personality prediction. Yet, not even a hypothesis let alone a theory or compelling evidence.
Astrology is a cancer on proper psychology and interferes with the natural richness and complexity of personality types.
It is not as harmless as people think.
Putting people in personality boxes, 12 of em, as quack astrology tries to do is possibly denying someone the opportunity of meeting a valuable friend or companion by cutting down their choices and limiting the possibilities. It may cause disasterous decisions business wise and socially, sexually, with fertility, so even medically.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 5, 2008 7:54 AM

taurustruckie. being a bloke i cant really speak for what the ladies like to see, but i reckon you have pretty well hit the nail on the head with your profile. you dont come across sleazy like some, just a genuine fella. one lady said she doesnt like your tank top but if that is what you wear because of where you live, then fine. put a tie on with it, and take another photo like you are heading out to tea, and you will be laughing........ hahahaha

Posted by: dustyknight at May 5, 2008 7:29 AM

Thanks to all who gave me input to my profile.
Hopefully it will be more appealing.
You girls and guys were right.

Posted by: taurustruckie at May 5, 2008 7:08 AM

TLD you were at your best again tonight. Several times.

Hi friends. Just had a skim of both blogs when I got home from exhilerating/ exhausting tennis, and stuck my bib in quickly a couple of times. Bluntly.

Decided to spend less time posting here in future. No more carefully-crafted long essays that satisfy the idealistic perfectionist - but take hours, and others skip anyway.

Need more time for my 3D life, Cam. You got one yourself? Otherwise it's the lurker calling the poster black ...

Now just a quick buy-in sometimes, when people are being fair-dinkum about a topic, or funny.

Good news. I read 1.1/2 of my 5 new Dr John Demartini "The Secret" books on Saturday, and last night it kicked in.

I'd been down in the dumps for a coupla weeks, but last night when I gave myself permission to go and escape into the movie "Missing Some Chick Whose Name I forget", I suddenly didn't need to.

Instead I got stuck into finishing designing and quoting a $$ job I'd had in the Too Hard for a month, then read more till 3am.

And jumped out of bed an hour early this morning, on a roll, without the alarm. New life begun.

RSVP first-date lunch today, (another tomorrow - a holiday here), then this arvo emotionally supported my friend and her grand-daughter again, servo pie for dinner then night tennis continuous for 2.1/4 hours till the others cried "uncle" 15 mins early. Seeyez when I've got a minute.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 5, 2008 1:54 AM

Sorry Kaz @ 6:04 PM if you didn't get my meaning.
I was just agreeing with you re redgem's comments about today's young people, pointing out that some of us "oldies" didn't always behave in a way we would be proud of now, in our younger days either.

Like redgem, I also had a very strict upbringing and it wasn't until I got away from my mother in my early twenties, that I went a bit wild and at times, behaved very irresponsibly.
For a year or two I drank excessively (what would be called "binge drinking" today) behaving recklessly and also drove frequently while under the influence. Would be seen as "at risk" behaviour these days!

Yet my own children and most of their friends have been remarkably "conservative" in comparison!
Other people around my age also talk about their teenage years and how they hope their own kids never get up to the same!

I also know some people my age or even a decade younger, who appear to have never grown up at all, still drinking to excess regularly and using marijuana.
Yet surprisingly, they get upset and amazed when their own kids behave in the same manner.

I pulled myself up after a year or two, because alcoholism seems to be quite rampant in my family. I had a father, great-grandfather and uncle who were alcoholics and I felt I was heading the same way.
My younger brother has also ended up with serious alcohol-related problems.
I have heard there may be an alcoholic gene?
If so, my family seems to have it!

Posted by: amberlight58 at May 5, 2008 1:27 AM

Thanks OG, got it from a book, 'tisn't mine. It goes on to say that a sword is like a scalpal, it can cut into someone too, but it can be used to heal too as can words...
Red.

Posted by: redgem65 at May 5, 2008 12:59 AM

waterbombe at 2:55 PM: I stand politically correct-ed. Again. Deja vu. Same old femmenazi obsession with preventing any man ever calling any woman a bitch for any reason.

Obviously more important than eliminating the murder of millions of unwanted female children at birth, and female circumcision of many of the survivors. Worth more attention, and greater efforts. Even in this frogpuddle.

I'll return to real life in a minute, where contemptible men are never called bitches, and contenptable women are never called bastards. But always vice versa. But that's in real life, and I'm now busier getting one.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 5, 2008 12:37 AM

cam1978 , I am a reglar lurker and a sometime poster but i resent you calling me a bitter tragic.. I am in no way bitter at all... twisted maybe and quite probably a tragic but never never bitter. Maybe you could go and suck lemons then u will be bitter as well... u r already tragic... BTW I think you are pretty cute, I could change my profile about not wanting a son :-)

Posted by: eastofcbd at May 5, 2008 12:20 AM

Kaz.@ 10.31
Whats a lot of Hollywood movie actors got to do with sport, even the druggies. Whats this Melbourne sheila like that they want to play with. Kaz you surprise me. I thought you were a straight laced fandango dancer type.

Now when it comes to the Dinosaur Dozen plus 3, that is a different kettle of fish. Even the Collosium could not put on a spectactle such as this, as skillful as poof ball, corrupt as the off spin, but a league ahead, played here on earth and when you passed on still able to be played in Heaven or in as many countries as poof ball claim. The one thing I find is, I cannot view this aerial ping pong, as an international game. Kaz you know the result of inbreeding, it is an eventual craziness that has been seen to be developing down in the colder regions especially betweent the non physical sensitive types and can only lead to them all voting Labor. Now should you ever wish to emmigrate to warmer climes, be fed proper food you have not cooked and thaw out, leave those traumatic times of all those balls in the air at the same time, I should presume you would still be able to join the rest of the normal population of this beautiful country, so come and visit me and be my guest.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 4, 2008 11:53 PM

virgil at May 4, 2008 10:53 PM

Yeah. Richard Dawkins. Big personal influence. Fantastic clear thinker and world champion debunker and explainer.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 11:46 PM

Yeah, take the spiders outside. Use a sheet of paper and a glass. Don't kill em, they are innocent and a sign of peace.
I have the usual number of 5 cent piece sized huntsmans around the back porch at the moment. They are the young from the lovely gravid female whose eggs hatched in January. I used a sharpened piece of welding wire to skewer a cricket or brown moth and feed her with. Leans back on 6 legs and grabs the prey. She grasps it and injects a digestive juice inside the unfortunate arthropod. This disolves its insides which she consumes over a day or so.
Iampert. As Ogre sensibly suggests you can make use of your prunings. I like to use the larger branches and trunks, say around 3" diameter as informal garden bed borders. I use my long handled lopping shears to make everything else manageable and make a mulch pile up the back. Suprising how quicky it all breaks down on the ground.
If you have a big lot an arborist, tree doc. will for a fee bring a big mulcher around and chip it for you or take it away.
Cheers. Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 11:41 PM

cam1978May 4, 2008 12:32 PM
Err. Welcome to the sandpit Cam. Suprised that a bloke with your professed enjoyment of outdoor activities has found it necessary to parachute in behind enemy lines on a Sunday arvo. Pity your only weapon is a muzzle loading, funnel barrelled blunderbuss. Initially terrifying to those nearby, but fire one shot innacurately with a very short range, take a long time to reload; and more than likely to blowback and kill the operator. Which is what appears to have happened.
As Lynathdiary says there are many reasons to blog. They allow us to express opinions, seek advice, profess ignorance, construct characters and or give our alter ego's a run. They also allow for robust discussion and debate and for others to be exposed to a wide range of perspectives and experiences. They are risky places for the emotional and sensitive.
Part of their fun and attraction, and value is precisely the point that you can, if inclined get away, with things that are sanctioned or difficult in other situations. Of course like the muzzle loader this can fail and make you look an arse.
As a subtext I notice the code word starting with C in your third sentence. Perhaps this is the dogwhistle?
I have an inkling that some of the comments I made on astrology may have rankled with you. You are smart enough to see that the logical arguments that can be easily mounted and sustained against that facile and pernicious nonsense are equally effective against religion and god.
Wishfulstinker. wishfulthinker03 Good to see you rushing out from behind the Commando's smoke and lobbing one of your ethically suspicious pine cone hand grenades at me.
You should go back to rubbing your pussy. Judging by your profie photo that at least gives you comfort.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 11:27 PM

5 coffees later it is done. Your input again would be appreciated. Thanks again for your ideas.

Posted by: taurustruckie at May 4, 2008 11:12 PM

Just grab a glass and put it outside.
And the carry on that you do will show itself in your kids.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 4, 2008 10:45 PM

Oh Jen if only l could.......K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 4, 2008 11:11 PM

Marcus

The ABC had a show tonight, called Compass, it was saying very much what you say, I only saw the second half, Maybe I will see a repeat.

They did scientific double blind studies on water diviners, spirit mediums, tarot and before I got in there they were talking about astrology.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 10:53 PM

Cor!..I reckon' you look alright in that tank top taurus..just take up drinkin' and you might give up smokin' !

cheers nw x

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 4, 2008 10:50 PM

Symbiosis - I like the honesty of your profile too.
Women who carry on about spiders irk me.
For gods sake get over yourself. lol.
Just grab a glass and put it outside.
And the carry on that you do will show itself in your kids.

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 4, 2008 10:45 PM

Oldergent, you jest about AFL, surely !!

The game that brought us James Hird, Robert Flower, Lethal, Paul Roos, and yes even Wayne Carey.....

One of my son's mates plays for Melbourne, the dedication he has shown since Junior days in the FDJFL has a singlemindedness about it.....always wanted to play AFL and now he is....consistently well for a stuggling team...... but they will improve.....

Rugby Union you got me there..... The World Cup last year was great, as was the one before in Australia.....the Best Final !!
Not that into the local stuff at all, but the Bledisloe is great......K.

Posted by: auntykaz at May 4, 2008 10:31 PM

widesmileMay 4, 2008 9:16 PM

Honeybunch, don't knock it until you try it.
Don't deny yourself a valuable experience- that is what your life is for.

If you did have a ONS, by definition you would be a willing participant, with your own 'urges'. Otherwise it would be called a rape.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 10:28 PM

Perth.@ 8.22 pm
What are the winds like in your area, did you consider their effect later. Just go and pile the off cuts up in a heap and put all your grass clippings scraps and any thing that has ever lived on the pile, 2 years down the track if you are lucky you will have humus, at the worst a good compost.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 4, 2008 10:22 PM

Lynath @ 4.28
Going back to my generation is was the boys that indulged in the binge drinking, very rarely the girls, but when they did they knew the consequences and willingly participated. Your assesment is accurate to the following generations too.

Moving on to your post of 6.15 pm.
I suppose I have been guilty of what cam has come in with and have no problem with his comment I could check out his profile and be content with looking at him. Given Lynath there is no shortage of nut cases in here ( just ask anyone who disagrees with the other blogger, lol) but you have always been consistent with your views along with a lot of other posters, even Perth.

The other post that made me think is Redgems @ 6.15 pm really stopped me,SWORDS, never seen it put like that before, I knew they were as effective if not more damaging and have used them as weapons. What the moderns do not seem to understand is that the sensitives in my day caused a lot of grief and to this day I view them with suspision and dislike. So maybe you can teach an old Dinosaur (got it right that time Bill) new things. But don't bank on it lol. Thanks R.
As a born Maroon, a life long blue, still a Maroon at Origin,and the unionist(RU) supporter, this AfL is a strange creature, but it must be powerful if it can get L&T and the pastor conversing, even if us Northeners cannot understand the nonsense they carry on with.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 4, 2008 10:07 PM

Lynath..

well said ..I was only thinking about that earlier today..

Cam..
most people need to feel a sense of connection..it's our form of survival..we may be surrounded by people on a daily basis..but do we really connect with them..in a meaningful way?..

most of us barely know our neighbours..and in some cases..even our friends..family..

the blogs may not necessarily fulfill the mantle of meaningful relationships..but they do bring a sense of connection and belonging..not in a needy way..but there are some fine communicators here and real discussions that you might not otherwise have in a normal day amongst 'polite' society..

I have just spent a whole afternoon at a friend's housewarming and believe me.. nothing touched anything that is discussed on here good or bad!..

in a way ..this reminds me of a dinner party..only bigger..and there is always some-one that plays the devil's advocate..even if it means that some-one may eventually be wearing a designer plate of spaghetti on their lap or a glass of good wine in their face..in this case.. maybe just a few raspberries blown at the computer screen..

bring on the blogs..I say..and educate me!

with gems like redgem how can you lose..

now redgem.. about that Braz..who would have known..I have led a sheltered life!

cheers everyone NWx

Posted by: naturalwoman08 at May 4, 2008 9:47 PM

Thanks everybody for your input.
Have made a coffee and will settle in and see what i can make better. Tony

Posted by: taurustruckie at May 4, 2008 9:41 PM

taurustruckie May 4, 2008 7:38 PM

I like your second gallery shot. The singlet goes well with your physique.
The girls have a point that a profile with no info in 'Other Interests' 'Music' 'Reading' needs looking at.
The text talk and abbreviations really are a turn off for most in our age group, education standard regardless.
If that is your house you are posed by in your photo that could be a starting point for some mention of interests. There are cultivated plants and a bit of bric abrac visible. Girls like that sort of humanising stuff.
Star sign monikers don't do it for me at all.
I believe that there enough stupid people out there who otherwise may find you an excellent match who are put off because they believe there is some validity in choosing a partner on the basis of Sun sign hocus pocus. There are also other women who see the sign thing as illogical and soft headed. Dont put yourself in that box. Good luck.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 9:39 PM

lol @ taurustruckie's profile

Posted by: tradieforalady at May 4, 2008 9:31 PM

Hi Jenniferhi! I had to laugh when I read your profile - you have some very similar (and quirky) things in there to mine. Damn it, I though I had the non-princess/spider market cornered!!

Cheers, Symbiosis.

Posted by: symbiosis66 at May 4, 2008 9:22 PM

Taurustruckie, yes to all the comments below....your interests sections need to be fleshed out.
You can't make women want to contact you or reply to contact you have initiated, but you can sure try.........

Spelling and punctuation, as petty as it may sound, can be a huge turn off.
A well written profile should rectify that.........
Good luck.............K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 4, 2008 9:20 PM

I personally don't think I could have a one night stand. It would more than likely make me feel empty afterwards. Emotional intimacy is so important to me and I would hate o think that I was there just to satisfy someone's urge

Posted by: widesmile at May 4, 2008 9:16 PM

Hey Taurus, cut out the 'aint', cut out the smoking, burn the tank top and you may actually look okay. Unfortunately, I think you are probably a really nice guy, but you sound like a yobbo smartass in your profile........don't say you didn't ask !

Posted by: iaminperth at May 4, 2008 9:10 PM

Taurustruckie, I took a look at your profile to see why you keep getting the negative responses. The only thing I can see is what Jennifer has mentioned, update it and take out the u and ur and use the correct words. It really irritates many to have to read through text-talk. Adding some more information in the reading/movies/music/hobbies might help too, it's a bit bare at the moment.

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at May 4, 2008 9:01 PM

taurustruckie...

You asked for input, so I looked at your profile, & think your lack of success is probably due to your lack of information...

Music: If I can hear it its good
Reading: Anything
Sport: nothing
Other Interests: nothing
Ideal Partner: nothing

Rather than accusing women of discourtesy, or telling them that "the guy u dream of just aint out there but i am"...

..and assuming (somehow) that those with hidden photos "dont want to meet someone" & should take their profiles off the site....

.. I'd suggest you tell them a little more about yourself.. OTHER than that you are the nicest guy they are going to meet, that is! I think they can decide that for themselves, if & when they meet you.. yes?

You just need to take the time & trouble to do a little work on your profile. I think this would bring you more success...

Posted by: decoratress at May 4, 2008 8:59 PM

Hi Taurustruckie,

I'm not in your age group, but agree with the feedback that jenniferhi has given. These are just my opinions that follow, but I too find scant/poorly written profiles a real turn off - would you buy a tin from the supermarket without a label on it?? No, you want to know what's in it....same deal here - you know what you're all about, but you need to SELL yourself (as cringeful as that is!).

I can only speak for myself, but a photo of you wearing a nice shirt or similar would be MUCH more appealing than your second photo in a tank top!! I think most women hate them....

Also, if for no other reason than your health, quitting smoking would be fantastic :-). Don't they say non-smokers have a much higher success rate on this site?

Good luck to you, you do come across as a kind/genuine bloke.

Cheers, Symbiosis

Posted by: symbiosis66 at May 4, 2008 8:57 PM

Taurustruckie - Ok going to say something. You did ask for imput. I had a look at your profile. And you are in the age group I look at.
Why all the sms speak in your profile? There is heaps of room to type all your abbreviated words. I think people in our age bracket expect a carefully worded profile. I text just as much as the next person but on a profile on a site like this there is more than enough room to 'sell yourself' in your best light.
I also think you could add a heap more info.You have hardly anything in "your interests".
Another thing - I think profiles should be re-vamped every so often. Things do change.
Also maybe change your opening line every so often.
Just my views.
Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at May 4, 2008 8:23 PM

I have cut back so many trees in my garden today and really let some light come into the house. Now have to think of what to do with all the mess piled up outside. My dog loves it and thinks it is just a big bed for her to lay on. I won't have a pool filled up with rubbish either over the winter months. Must admit though, hands hurt, back hurts, actually everything hurts at the moment and really need a good shower. Good job though and it's good to get out and do some manual hard work now and then.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 4, 2008 8:22 PM

And when you went to a party, it didn't end up an all out riot with parents and police! My sister's youngest had her 18th a few weeks back and its so sad she had to hire security, and then fork out $250 for it!
R.

Posted by: redgem65 at May 4, 2008 7:00 PM
Redgem, having a 21yr old and 19 yr old in the house, we have had our fair share of parties 16ths, 18ths, 21st, and have only ever had one problem....
Mind you that's not to say that l wasn't worried, as l live on a bush type block with farm fencing, easily jumped over, luckily that didn't happen....
The best was my son's surprise 16th organised by his sister and a few of his mates, he had no idea, and his head nearly hit the roof when he was "surprised"

Absolutely nothing to do with the topic l know........

Marcus you would be familiar with Glenroy??............................K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 4, 2008 7:39 PM

need some input by u girls and guys.
Have been trying to meet somebody on this site for 12 months now and all i get is (doesnt want to correspond again). They dont even take the time to try to know u. Im a fairly good lookin guy and i have the courtesy to at least put my pic out there but most of the women dont even do that, is that because they are shy or tryin to be mysterious or afraid their friends will see them. We are all here trying to find the same thing or so i thought. The guy u dream of just aint out there but i am.
I know some of u will say, hang in there the right one will come along, well that aint true.
If u dont want to meet someone then take ur profile off the site and leave it to people that do.

Posted by: taurustruckie at May 4, 2008 7:38 PM

Iampert at May 4, 2008 6:12 PM
Sheeds spends a bit of time in the top end doing support and development work. He is revered by the aboriginal players.
Recently he has been indulging in a bit of horse racing and jumps meeting spectating. Apparently big on that too.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 7:10 PM

Marcus

I listened to the game, first on the 5aa radio, then over the internet when they switched to the Port game.

You may have seen my happy reaction to the Melbourne win. Unfortunately, though it mught just put the Eagles on the bottom of the ladder.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 7:05 PM

.. perhaps we also need a footy blog?

KARINA.. are you listening?
footy & foodie.. two popular new topics for the afficionados.

.. speaking as one who grew up in a soccer culture, & to whom the letters A, F & L will never quite be the same as they were pre australian rules..

Posted by: decoratress at May 4, 2008 7:02 PM

Perth

The Eagles are lacking in confidence at the moment, they showed patces of there olsd spirit friday night.

They still have nearly a team of Premiership players, so hopefully can turn it around soon.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 7:01 PM

I had a very strict middle class upbringing, curfew and "who are you going with, where and what are doing?" And I feared my father's wrath if I was 5 minutes late, let alone have a mark on my neck!
And yes we did get up to mischief, but never anything truely illegal. We dragged raced but always down at the docks, secluded and safer, with a lookout for other cars or cops. This business of riding on bonnets, no way.
And when you went to a party, it didn't end up an all out riot with parents and police! My sister's youngest had her 18th a few weeks back and its so sad she had to hire security, and then fork out $250 for it!
R.

Posted by: redgem65 at May 4, 2008 7:00 PM

virgilMay 4, 2008 4:55 PM
Padre. I went for a nature walk date around Coburg Lake and along the Merri Creek this afternoon, passing on a trip to the MCG to see my not so beloved Demons. We were getting the proverbial at half time so I thought a judicious decision. Pleased and suprised with our eventual win over Freo; a couple of the sublimely skilful aboriginal boys starring.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 4, 2008 6:55 PM

It's fine to voice your opinion or question someone about their beliefs etc. just so long as your comments and opinions, after they answer you, are not overly offensive and hurtful. If you don't know this person, if they are not of stable mind, or are prone to being extra sensitive - your abusive comments could be taken to heart and could be detrimental. So, what if your opinions are wrong?
Words ARE mightier than the sword.

WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS

Put together they turn into swords.

R.

Posted by: redgem65 at May 4, 2008 6:15 PM

Hi Virgil, I could feel sorry for the Eagles but they seem to have brought all their problems on themselves. Definitely at the moment it looks to me they have a leadership problem as when they play they play so well and precisely. Never mind, I guess it's all about climbing back up the ladder. Hope the Bombers do well, as they are not quite the Baby Bombers any more. Does anyone know what Sheeds is doing these days, I think they are missing a great talent out there.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 4, 2008 6:12 PM

Kaz,
I agree with you. I can well remember doing things I am not proud of now Posted by: amberlight58 at May 4, 2008 5:20 PM ...

Sorry Amberlight l am not quite with you there..........K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 4, 2008 6:04 PM

You beat me to it, Lynath, and very well argued as expected.

As with all generations, you get your good and bad. My almost 19 year old doesn't get up to nearly as much mischief as I did (and I DO know that for a fact) bur some of her friends do.

Sweeping generalities are rarely accurate and should be avoided, me thinks.

Posted by: victoriadownunder at May 4, 2008 5:29 PM

Posted by: cam1978 at May 4, 2008 12:32 PM

cam1978 haven't seen you post before.

I am always amused by the lurkers who come on from time to time to criticise what others are posting and to tell them how ridiculous they are without ever having contributed or stated an opinion on a topic. Yet they enjoy reading the blogs. "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind.

People do spend time on the blogs but how does that make them bitter or tragic? Why does it upset you?
If someone gets any pleasure or support from interacting on any level with other human beings then surely that is a good thing?
It is very naive to insist that people "get a life". Some people don't find that easy at all or even by joining RSVP are attempting to do just that.

People need someone to tell things to and in the absence of a partner, a group with something in common with anonymity thrown in may be a very healthy alternative to fill a gap that cannot be filled by other acquaintances family children etc.or in some cases no one at all. Would you deny them that opportunity?

So Cam yes even negative attention might just be enough to keep someone sane and to create a sense of belonging, and to help them along the road to finding a real life relationship. The discussion and chat here may be some people's way of entering a social scene again and testing the waters and finding out what the world is like after long term marriages and relationships.

As to the so called negative posts, they are the spice of the blogs and what readers, if they are honest, absolutely love.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at May 4, 2008 5:27 PM

Kaz,
I agree with you. I can well remember doing things I am not proud of now.
Like going out after working a late shift at 10.45 PM, drinking all night and then fronting up for an early shift the next day, with (I can only imagine!) the worst breath and a "mother" of a hangover.
The poor patients! If they weren't feeling unwell, I'm sure they did by the time I breathed all over them!
And driving a boyfriend's Ford Escort at 165 km/h, drunk as could be (I would never have driven that fast when I was sober!)
This is something I hope my own children would never do!
My behaviour was actually pretty staid compared to some of my friends!
I never drank until I was unconcious, as some of the young ones do today, but then I think some mixed drinks probably have a higher percentage of alcohol than they did when I was younger. And taste a lot sweeter, so they seem more like a harmless soft drink.

Posted by: amberlight58 at May 4, 2008 5:20 PM

Redgem, I have to disagree with you about the 18-24 year olds They are no more irresponsible than any generation
They may have access to more money perhaps and obtain things like cars earlier but there was plenty of binge drinking and casual sex one night stands going on when I was that age. Drink driving had not even been thought about as an issue and everyone did it. There were plenty of pregnancies and abortions and std's.but not the life threatening ones of today.
Gang violence has been around since the start of the Colony.

The difference as I see it between my generation and the current is not that we feared authority but rather there was not much communication with parents or anyone seen as an authority figure.

Parents never asked what went on and kids never told them. The generation gap seemd very wide. Kids were not equpped with the information they needed to face the world That was sad really when I think about how much I have shared with my own children.

The same parents were of the generation that had lots of 'premature babies" such was the hypocrisy. That generation got up to just as much as the current one but it was covered up and hidden for instance by quick marriages for all the pregnant brides. They did not have so much access to money or cars but there was plenty of drinking.
Strange then that they should not feel free to talk with their children about real life issues.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at May 4, 2008 4:58 PM

Perth

I was going for Melbourne today, sort of an underdog thing, but would also have been happy with a Freo win.

That might just put my Eagles on the bottom
of the ladder.

Great to see the Crows entrenched in the top 4.

Now hopefully we can see your Bombers beat Port, and it would be a great weekend.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 4:55 PM

Perth@2.47 in response to cam @ 12.32
Perth you left the name out of the colourfull description. As far as I know I am the only one to have a sling at Virgil. So rather than have any one else go seeking shelter. Would you care to name the subject of your post. If it was not me fine, if it was then I will answer you properly, and politely.
OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 4, 2008 4:51 PM

Marcus you are definitely under the influence of Uranus.

Don't know about Astrology, but do know the moon has power to influence more than the tides....Lunatic Lunacy etc which ahs been written about for centuries.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at May 4, 2008 4:36 PM

Do what you want to do for yourself Virgil, don't be intimidated by someone so nasty. He has said that no-one has cooked a home cooked meal for him in years, well you would think he would wonder why. I find TW very much the same, maybe they are the same and both seem very intimidated by you. No, don't be pushed around by any of the bullies. The dockers are actually scoring at the moment, not a bad game. I turn on the TV and do my ironing in front so usually catch a good game of footy at the same time. Don't be initimidated. both are bullies and bullies are only weak people who can't relate in any other way.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 4, 2008 4:30 PM

Perth

The old Goat is now suggesting I leave, but i dont see any desire to do that.

Maybe just ignore his sad irrelevant venom spews.

He tries so hard with recipes and cooking talk just a shame his shameful intolerant vitriol spoils any goodwill that might otherwise come his way.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 4:01 PM

Hi yall, back from hospital and catching up on blogs.

Oldergent, Yes I agree ONS s are Ok if thats what you want and no one gets hurt. But its not for me.
I myself have one God, but I was trying to cover other's Gods too. There are so many and when it comes down to it, all He/She is saying, is to be kind to each other.

Victoria, Ty hun lol.

Eastofcbd, Yes they are real kisses, I sent a kiss with want to be your valentine to a quy with a wicked sence of humor the other day, showing him I'm equally humurous.

And finally Marcus... sigh, In my post I said straight up that I cannot comment on astrology that much because I have not studied it. This takes years and is very complex. All I know is that where you are born, in a month, in which time zone, the exact time etc. determines a percentage of your personaility and then they go into your future which 'they' say is totally mapped out for you, which I find hard to believe. This is because one I haven't studied it, thus am skeptical of it. The rest is by your genes, parents beliefs, life experiences, education etc.
I don't know why or how the positions of the planets etc have any co-relation to a baby's personality. So when it comes to the crunch do I have a ONS or not? Certain starsigns will think logically first and others will just fly by the seat of their pants, thinking emotionally as they have done so throughout their life. Until they realise at some stage that they have made many mistake thinking this way, have to retrain their thoughts.
Gemini and Capricorn are a good match, except that capricorn are often workaholics and put themselves first, and Gems want to play more and feel left out sometimes.

The youth of today ie. 18 - 24 ish are different, they are (alot of them) the binge drinking/drink driving/ casual sex/drag racing/ don't care generation thus O N Standers. I wonder if this comes from lack of punishment when children, unlike our generation fearing parents, teachers and authority and consequences.

And yes men think with their logical brain and women with their emotional brain.
Retta

Posted by: redgem65 at May 4, 2008 3:38 PM

Timewarp, if it is true that "I see that -gender - as totally irrelevant in any argument, anywhere, any time" (Timewarp1, May 3 1:29pm) then you would never call women bitches anywhere, anytime. That word is a gender-specific slur. Instead you would say what you actually mean..."selfish" , "aggressive"...whatever...you would use words that apply equally to women AND to men. Someone who always sees gender as irrelevant never uses gender-specific slurs.

And can I help you out with another point you missed? You referred to Waterbombe and Co who "used to savage me ...for being a male who dared to use the totally-forbidden-to-males word 'bitch' in ANY connotation." Posted by: timewarp1 at May 3, 2008 11:52 AM
No, no. You misunderstood. We call female dogs bitches too...that's the proper word. What we won't accept is you calling women bitches because you don't like what we say and/or do. At the time, you were calling women bitches because they did not respond to one of your (electronic) kisses. That tiny reason was your justifiation for such a sexist slur. You might have been able to get away with it when you were 20, 30, even 40, TW... but things have changed in the last 30 years.

Posted by: waterbombe at May 4, 2008 2:55 PM

Cam, I agree, it's such a shame and spoils the blogs. Any subject at all is overshadowed by great big fat old blunderbust spewing his tragic venom and attacking anyone and everyone. It's sad as this is a blog re dating, not just to use it for an overinflated tragic ego. Unfortunately I think it will continue and anyone with any sense of decency and fair play will leave. To be so angry and sad and to feel threatened by people like Virgil is a sad indictment of reality and one has to wonder why he feels so threatened, all pathetic and borish really.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 4, 2008 2:47 PM

"These days it seems people can think and believe anything they choose so I will stay out of that one.
Cheers OG"

Hi OG...
In times past, people were more likely to pay lip service to a particular organised religion.. society preferred one to 'be' a Catholic/Anglican/whatever..

However..
I was under the impression that people have always been able to think & believe exactly what they want... it's just more acceptable these days to express those beliefs when they diverge from the mainstream of the entrenched Religions.

Nowadays, people are far more likely to question.. & take the beliefs which resonate with them, whilst discarding those which don't. I'd suggest that this has resulted in many feeling comfortable with their own, very personal, beliefs.. without feeling tied to the dogma surrounding Religions.

Whilst, in the past, people 'were' Catholics/Anglicans/whatever 'on paper'.. I'm sure it didn't mean they believed everything their particular faith promoted as Truth..

Posted by: decoratress at May 4, 2008 1:41 PM

Not quite sure what star signs have to do with one night stands, or anything really. Do they really influence us? Is one sign more dominant, opinionated, annoying than any other?

Cam1978 good point you made - some people do need to get a life and get off these blogs, many seem to be here 24/7. I see we are still being subjected to Marcus' chemistry and biology lessons, and of course sex with animals - very tiresome Marcus, do we constantly need to be bombarded with which parts smell, what smells and how it smells? Who cares?

Wearing your heart of your sleeve? I always thought that was for some poor person who was easily hurt and showed it - different people use it in different ways.....still seems odd, if not slightly impossible!

Back to the real world....glad to see not much changes here week to week.

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at May 4, 2008 1:15 PM

Kaz I do not know what it is but a lot of people meeting me for the first time also get the Sag. bit right but then say theres a bit of Scorpio there too. Makes you wonder, also I have a numerologist friend who has several times in my presence described a baby from their birth date alone, with disturbing accuracy. These days it seems people can think and believe anything they choose so I will stay out of that one.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 4, 2008 12:36 PM

There really are some bitter tragics in the ranks here. Whats with all the put downs of people who are simply voicing a harmless opinion on various harmless and lighthearted issues? I get it that people have differing views on certain topics, but Christ guys...get a life! That there's gonna be disagreements is pretty mandatory on any chat forum. That said, the way that some of you have to go on and on with your big words and your oodles of life experience in order to insult one another just to back up your 'argument' is a joke. This website is meant to be a relationship building aide, but considering some of the social skills displayed in here I suspect that some of you are beyond help. On the flip side perhaps some of you tried being nice once and got stung. Awwwwww. So now you've become pretentious and annoying in a bid to get a rise out of the more emotionally stable among us, as negative attention in a chat forum is perhaps better than the zero attention you get in the real world? Like I said....tragic.

Posted by: cam1978 at May 4, 2008 12:32 PM

Astrology

There is much we dont understand, on the surface, what Marcus says makes perfect sense, underneath there just seems some correlation in behaviours, ways of looking at the world, attraction, etc.

My star sign is virgo, I was married to a virgo for 23 years. I recently saw the profile of another virgo on RSVP, where some similarities in things liked were amazing.

I am not talking about beach walks dinners out and movies, but obscure pieces of classical music, etc.

I have never had a friend or a partner of the leo sign, I met one for coffee 3 months ago, and while the person was attractive etc, just made me feel uncomfortable.

It seems so strange, because I am sceptical, like Marcus, how the relativities work, but they just seem to in practice, shame about the theory.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 11:57 AM

Virgil, thank you for coming to my defence, but Twoeyes said that very tongue in cheek, he and l know each other, and he is very aware of my humour or lack thereof :-)

Twoeyes l didn't know you had changed your profile name......Didn't get an email about that one...........

Oldergent, the thing l find interesting with the starsign stuff is that within minutes of meeting me l have been told that l am a "typical" virgo, however the person saying it does not know me at all, my traits, strengths and weaknesses, that is why l find astrology to be a stretch...... or maybe it is the person making the assumption that is a stretch.....

Anyway each to their own l think, it just isn't me.....................K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 4, 2008 11:12 AM

Thanks Virgil, The locals I am fine with I just don't like the kind of reply for overseas and interstate. I sometimes think maybe they would like a pen pal and the standard response always sounds a little harsh to me. Oh well, I'll work it out I am sure. Blue skies here in Perth, little bit chilly but not too bad. I'm going to have a lazy day today with just a bit of housework as I have worked 6 days straight and a bit worn out.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 4, 2008 10:56 AM

its funny virgil but i still post here under my old name. i changed it awhile ago and it has been changed in the system..........go figure. Try UnknownAuthor..................and as for the comment re kaz..I agree, and thats why i could say that and get away with it...

Posted by: twoeyes at May 4, 2008 10:52 AM

Perth

regarding kisses from overseas, the best answer is that you have just started seeing someone.

Regarding kisses from the east, maybe you could use the waiting for your emial?

Local kisses, assume the bloke wants to date after a while, and make assessment of what you see, then respond accordingly.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 10:34 AM

I've been asked quite a few times by 'starry' people if I am Aquarius - which I am, weird really. Now tell me people what does 'wearing your heart on your sleeve' mean. Doesn't make sense to me at all???

Posted by: iaminperth at May 4, 2008 10:26 AM

I agree kaz cos i am way better looking than you and a nicer person also........lol

Posted by: twoeyes at May 3, 2008 11:42 PM

Hmmm twoeyes

I checked your profile to see if the above comment had any basis in fact, only to find it hidden, therefore not verifyable, (will have to go on Marcus' previous appraisal of your looks "a rougher head than mine", I think was the assessment).

As to your being a nicer person than Kaz, I find that also would be hard to achieve, as kaz is one of the best.

Posted by: virgil at May 4, 2008 10:25 AM

hello JB I am a virgo with who cares whats rising................

Guys actually ask this question, to appear to give themselves the appearance of someone who knows a bit about astrology, and also to appear to have a little new age outlook, and not being so macho....

Posted by: twoeyes at May 4, 2008 10:18 AM

re astrology and the stars...in the past I have had one or 2 guys ask 'what is your star sign' which I reply gemini....and get ahhh a split personality!! or worse about being 2 people!!! what a pile of shit!!!

I am me.

There is so much more to a person's personality that the negative part of a star sign...coz I actually have all the good bits and none of the bad!!!!!!! lol lol

anyway I am a gemini seeing an interesting capricorn, so those that know could give a prediction.....

have a lovely sunday all....geminiwithscorpiorising.....jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at May 4, 2008 9:44 AM

Marcus - sorry buddy, im too smart to buy into what your selling. Cheers

Posted by: groundhogday2 at May 4, 2008 7:43 AM

Marcus...

I've a scientific leaning, as well as an artistic one (hahaha... perhaps because I'm the dual-natured twins)... & I readily admit to having absolutely no idea HOW astrology works.

What I do know, from impartial (yes, I know what the word means, despite being a woman) observation... is that there is an uncanny accuracy in the traits commonly associated with the zodiac signs.

In the 30yrs I've been interested in this correlation, I've found it to be far more accurate than chance could possibly contrive to be.

I don't profess to understand how it's possible..
..but then I don't believe current lack of proof necessarily disproves a theory. Surely that's the attitude of an inflexible mind?

regards
typicalgeminiwithscorpiorising

Posted by: decoratress at May 4, 2008 12:44 AM

eastofcbd @ May 3, 5.30 pm...
"How does one reply to a kiss that says they they like your sense of humour, or your smile etc.. is that a real kiss or just an observation????"

..I looked at your profile, eocbd, & see that your photos are password protected..
..If this is normally the case, I suggest "like your smile" must be THEIR sense of humour..

Posted by: decoratress at May 3, 2008 11:49 PM

I agree kaz cos i am way better looking than you and a nicer person also........lol

Posted by: twoeyes at May 3, 2008 11:42 PM

Marcus@ 7.17 inst.
A longish post for you, but the astrolgy aside, and not having the in depth knowledge of some other brains on this site. Did not Einstien have some theory of the co-relation of all matter in the universe having a concern to each other. I do not have a problem with the Astrologers having their say too. They have as much right as the other whiz bangs around.

Kaz.
There are so many variables in astrology, the daily generic readings are no indication of a general virgo or any other sign, it all relates to the time and place of birth, a person born at the same time 1000 klms away in another direction will have different traits but also share common ones. From what I can see you are a lot more likeable than a lot.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at May 3, 2008 10:17 PM

I have also wondered with the messages, especially "I like you smile' and 'like to hear more of your adventures' and what do you do when someone from another state or country sends you a message saying they like your smile, do you e-mail back or say I don't want to communicate with you again. I hate that return as I don't really have any problem communicating with anyone and would sometimes like to but really don't know how to respond at times. There are actually many people I wouldn't mind communicating with but I don't want to go out socially with..........any suggestions.

Posted by: iaminperth at May 3, 2008 10:04 PM

TW - Forgettable who??

The only thing really convoluted on here is what may be referred to as someone's brain. If they read through and overanalysed ALL the posts on here - and drew a comparison between what some older people have said versus younger if they really want to.

I thought I'd already made it quite clear. I have no time for rude people. It is one thing to attempt to stir a pot - but another to be plain rude.

Astrology is far more complex than just a simple month that you were born in - so there really is no "typical" for any Sun sign as it should be called, not Star sign. Many different aspects that shape who people are, were, will be.

I must say the digression on these blogs - personal attacks and things written - the way they are written has made me decide to not bother posting or reading any further posts of others.

I am rather disappointed at the behaviour of some that is far more childish than my actual children - who are only 6 and 9.

So farewell, enjoy yourselves.

Posted by: ellelaura at May 3, 2008 9:22 PM

Marcus - I just read your two 7.20pmish posts and I'm grateful to you - I am definitely going to the 8.30pm session of "Forgettable Marcus". Now.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 3, 2008 8:13 PM

Marcus, agree with the astrology comments you made earlier...
Astrology is something l have not had any interest in, and hate it when l am called a typical Virgo.....what, all Virgo's are the same?? (god if they are all like me we are in trouble)............K

Posted by: auntykaz at May 3, 2008 8:05 PM

ellelaura May 2, 2008 12:49 PM

You said; ".... I was refering to the mentions of morality, why it is far more commonplace in younger generations to have premariatal sex and plenty of one night stands."

I don't understand what you are telling us.
Your language is convoluted. Are 'young people' less moral than older people because you surmise they have more one night stands or sex?
What is the connection between safe, agreed sex, and morality, do you think?

I'm always interested in people's ideas of where moral sense comes from.

MS

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 3, 2008 7:27 PM

Reg M May 2, 2008 4:04 PM

Reg. You've responded to Virgil's query about the veracity of astrological predictions. virgil at May 2, 2008 12:49 PM. He wondered about a possible causal relationship between time and date of birth ie 'star sign' and how it might influence personality and behavior.

Seeing you have set yourself up as a blog observer/commentator and dispenser of wisdom and advice; "men are really confused about their feelings" and "us women... eternal emotional thinkers" "give yourself as a gift not a prize" I was interested in seeing what you might arrive with for the good Padre on astrology. I didn't have to wait long. You missed his point and instead served up a small soup of Pisces , Gemini and Saggitarian bones.

Do you really believe that the relative positions of various planets and incredibly distant stars as plotted by a bloke named Ptolemy in the northern hemisphere sky can influence anything, let alone peoples personalities thousands of years later? If you do, as you appear to, what might be a mechanism for this influence? Perhaps I might have misunderstood and the answer is self evident and there is a rationale that has escaped me.

We know that the gravitational pull of the moon on earth causes sea tides but all the other celestial bodies are so far away that the delivering midwife's bust or doctors paunch will exert more gravitational action on a baby than them. What then might be 'causing' the identifiable personal characteristics you are sure of, ie flirtatious, communicative, sexed up Geminis or the hot and cold Scorpion and the misunderstood Piscean?

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 3, 2008 7:17 PM

eastofcbd at 5:30pm: I believe that RSVP has tried to broaden the initial message that you can send as a kiss, by selecting a multiple-choice add-on.

I'd read ones like your examples to mean "I'd like to get in touch with you, AND one thing in your profile that especially appealed to me was your smile/ sense of humour/ whatever."

I like that, because it is giving the kissee some immediate feedback as to what the kisser especially liked about your profile - one major reason why they had chosen you to kiss.

Finally, staying in ironic mode, but well short of the intentional down-putting savagery that's the visible purpose of real sarcasm, they could also add one that says "I specially like that you don't have two heads."

I'll bet there are people who'd dig sending that one - and getting it. But also those who would not be amused to receive it, so RSVP better not include it, perhaps.

Saturday night, and a long weekend in this State. Want out. Of me. Wish I had TV, a DVD player, or a friend within 15km who does. Wonder what movies are on up the road? Seeyez.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 3, 2008 6:57 PM

VDU - Thanks. Trying to work on it in the meantime, but the well is deep, and I haven't found the exit ladder yet.

Kaz - and thanks to you too. Sorry, and I had been far too strong in my initial response to you. I'd chosen "candid" carefully, to try to convey the idea of direct, no-BS honesty. Which I admire. Pax.

I'm consciously trying to be more brief like an SMS, and I think it's coming over as gruff.

eastofcbd @ 5.30pm: that's one for BrisVegas or a bit south, and counting.

Perth @ 1.13pm: Hello again sweetheart! Gentle irony was all that I'd intended, but from your opportunistic comment, it looks like I overdid it, eh? Thanks for thinking of me anyway, and I love you too, doll.

Posted by: timewarp1 at May 3, 2008 6:27 PM

Off the topic... How does one reply to a kiss that says they they like your sense of humour, or your smile etc.. is that a real kiss or just an observation????

Posted by: eastofcbd at May 3, 2008 5:30 PM

Request their email or send them one to enquire..

Posted by: laughsandtalks at May 3, 2008 6:11 PM

Re the bloggermeets in Melb or Brissy, are any planned. I am in Brisbane for a few more months and then back to Melbourne for summer.... would love to participate.
Off the topic... How does one reply to a kiss that says they they like your sense of humour, or your smile etc.. is that a real kiss or just an observation????

Posted by: eastofcbd at May 3, 2008 5:30 PM

Timewarp, most ideas have all been had before by someone somewhere else. Thank you. I was serious about the research