
Digital music and MP3s are the names of the new music scene. Anywhere you turn, you see people with iPods blazing into their earlobes. Students, adults, and grandparents are listening to the pure sound of emotions through their headphones. A sight that is so different, that companies are finding ways to jump-start their own businesses. Apple has become the number one provider. Using a business model that has helped them reach one-billionth download on February 15th. Apple has tapped into a universe that is different from what people have ever seen before.
iPods are selling as fast as Mp3s are and why not, it is as easy as buying things over Amazon. Moreover, the songs cost only 99 cents. Quality is as good as a CD. Music has always been the mood changer and Apple has made it much easier and simpler for people to access their music. Not only has Apple tapped into a market that is new, they have attracted a lot of competition. How do you listen to music these days? Do you have an IPod or MP3 player? How much has the digital world changed over the years and how it influenced your taste for music?
Posted March 17, 2008 10:49 AM
On iPod. Graham1972 1:55 18th March.
Good commentary on music, art and arid consumerism. There is as much garbage spoken about music in RSVP profiles as anything else. Musical preference is diagnostic for maturity and taste.
Despite Karina's statement above, MP3 and IPod players are not CD quality. Those file formats are the musical flavour equivalents of bruise proof tomatoes and Big Mac's.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 19, 2008 7:08 AM
Well riversong and OG that one obviously went straight through to the keeper.Kenny isn't flirting with the shop assistants.He is the shop assistant waiting to be flirted with.
Blueeyes you will always find friendly helpful advice in the produce section at coles.
Posted by: abckenny at March 19, 2008 2:01 AM
On Apple and iProds.
I'd rather an interesting seed Pod thanks. It won't play music but planted it may grow and reveal something interesting.
OGre gent. I'm bemused by your comment on the 14th at 7:37pm regarding A's body language and the disclosure yesterday that you have only seen photos. I was prepared to accept there had been a meeting between you, complete with the laying on of hands. I've seen the same snaps. Self consciously posed and average photographic quality. Even allowing for a slightly fevered imagination and some extrapolation, I'm at a loss as to how you could tell anything about her nature, let alone divine inklings of interest in you.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 19, 2008 1:29 AM
Hi Justsaying. I'd love to debate with you a little, off-blog, More fun than here I reckon.
They axed my try last night to defend myself amusingly against your barrage of insults at 2.10pm Monday, and I can't lob you a stamped email while you're hiding behind cover.
Please send me a stamped RSVP email giving me another contact method, and I'll happily refund you the $10 immediately by postal order.
Then we can take off the straitjackets and have some fun. Whaddayasay mate?
Posted by: timewarp1 at March 19, 2008 12:49 AM
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 18, 2008 6:48 PM,
>"Guys- where else are there more male shop assistants than female?"
bluey, have you ever tried men's tailor shops?
The "male" assistants spare no effort taking your inside leg measurement.
Posted by: justsaying at March 18, 2008 11:26 PM
oldergent at March 18, 2008 7:44 PM and his advice to acdcKenny,
"...you are missing out on one of lifes charms, on my triennial trip to Myers the other day I had a ball with a saleswoman named Toni. I did not (nor did she seem to mind) get the young grouch that seemed to think she was God's gift to retail (she spent eventually $20), I spent $100's."
Ohhh Geeeee, I thought when a man has a ball with a woman and spends "$100's" -he's always given that extra little bit of treatment.
Charm, that is.
Nothing "digital" or of the "future" about that age old routine.
Posted by: justsaying at March 18, 2008 11:04 PM
boyfriend material (18 March am) - I guess you don't remember "trannies" then? :)
Posted by: riversong1 at March 18, 2008 11:03 PM
Is Sir Joh Bjelke Peterson really dead? I think he may be blogging under a few different names.
Posted by: oohlala1 at March 18, 2008 10:45 PM
blueeyes1955 at March 18, 2008 6:48 PM and shopping at Bunnings because there are more male assistants.
Take it from me, mate, (I've recently added a chainsaw and hedge trimmer to my at home arsenal,) most of 'em at Bummings don't know what they're on about.
Besides, Bummings' gear is cheap and nasty.
But I don't blame the lacks (in knowledge or gear) on staff.
After all, what tradie worth his salt is going to work long days, nights and weekends too for the "wunnerful" wage of peanuts?
-Besides freezing their b*llocks off in Bummings' draughty tin sheds, aka sales premises.
Posted by: justsaying at March 18, 2008 9:48 PM
L&T, your response on 18 Mar 4:47AM to my post on 17 Mar 8:13PM regarding a possible way forward for moderation to facilitate instant blog posting was well considered and presented where the emotive aspect was proportionate to the matters under consideration. Your disagreement to my views was clearly stated without any denigration, implied or direct of me or my opinion. Furthermore you did this without any swearing and used my correct profile name without any need to re-badge it to a less complimentary name.
Marcus your response to my post in my view is a perfect example of what blogs should be, a place to enjoy, discuss issues and build the self esteem of yourself and others by responsible and enlightened opinions. A place where diversity is embraced, opinions are presented as just that and not as incontrovertible fact and the integrity of the individual is paramount to other considerations. I hope this is not too much to ask.
As for how should accepted community standards be judged, well not by me. The point I was making is this should form a part of the mix when the extent of moderation is determined, perhaps a loose or general recognition of this. I think the community would generally accept people should be treated with dignity, disability catered for, strong language reserved for situations where no alternative is present and every effort should be made to set an environment conducive to positive experiences. Is this concept really so difficult and should this be viewed as censorship?
I shall take your proposition that we as bloggers should need to reveal our full actual name, suburb and profile as a distraction. You will note my profile and wishful's are visible as they should be in my opinion. We both have visible photos as well. To connect a blog with disclosure of real name and residence on a dating site is mischievous by you and a dangerous proposition in a real physical sense especially for women.
Wishful relates some of the posts here in recent times to bullying, I do find it difficult to argue. The dictionary describes this as coercing others by fear. Go back and read some of the most extreme posts in recent times, if these are not bullying by this definition in the sense of coercion by fear from loss of standing in the blog community then I do not know would could be.
PS I would like to thank OG for alerting me to the discussion regarding moderating last night.
PSS Thanks for your comments junebaby, timewarp, wishful and others privately.
Posted by: willow1059 at March 18, 2008 9:40 PM
Justsaying...wish you got my Apple code "hello to you", can you read my mind? peace out.
Posted by: aliane at March 18, 2008 9:31 PM
Hello back to you aliane at March 18, 2008 3:03 PM and thank you for your kind advice and words. :).
However, the OBs seem to be gettin' their jockey-shorts all twisted like.
But I suppose they've been told often enough in their long lifetimes how, when and where to get knotted.
Maybe they've "Never Had A Dream Come True" (very good segue of yours Aliane) in their lifetime because they've never learnt how to approach civilised human beings? (Providing of course, they consider females human -if not civilised?)
"slurs" oh-dinosaur-1 aka timewarp1 at March 18, 2008 12:54 PM,
I assure you I'm not slurring when I'm typing at the keyboard.
Check the dictionary for the first meaning of the abovementioned word.
-While you're at it, also check the meaning of "debate".
Maybe then, you'll realise this is what is happening. Well, from my side at least.
You could also find out the meaning of implied threats, as you do them so frequently in this medium.
You'll note I only respond to what is *written* on here, not to anyone's profile or picture.
(This, also an answer and reason, to your question decoratress at March 18, 2008 1:44 PM, as much as I would like to satisfy your curiosity.)
Back to D(inosaur)1 and D2.
Constantly trying to get personal in a nasty way is just too unattractive to the opposite sex.
Besides being quite unmanly and ever so unGentlemanly.
Come on old fellas, find a bit of dignity -even if your other faculties are "Blowing in the Wind".
Digitally, of course...
Posted by: justsaying at March 18, 2008 9:28 PM
Well it seems there is another nasty on the block, seems to me it is the type that likes to pat Taipans on the head, feels safe because he thinks they cant see him, or is it just another alter ego, name changer, but it is good to see that I can get under his skin. Keeps him away from the nice people. How good is it to see the new bloggers coming in from the cold.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 18, 2008 9:25 PM
Hey guys...because there are soooo many restrictions on this blogging site and because so many of you enjoy it...why dont you set up your own web blog site through google or whomever and control it yourselves?
Posted by: pixiemagic at March 18, 2008 9:08 PM
Gee OG - you must be a charmer! All the retail assistants do with me is try to sell me stuff!
Hey, Blueyes - Bunnings - I never thought of that! So that's where all the men hang out! But are they single? or just escaping from their wives to do "boy stuff"? ;)
Posted by: riversong1 at March 18, 2008 9:06 PM
Ho hum...
Parts of blogs being posted but not the rest.
Will this part of the part that was pulled, be allowed through?
"...Perhaps OG's defenders are merely protecting his delicate sensibilities from bluntness?
If that's the case, give him the prize digital Apple Ipod!
Then he can join the Mr RichardZKruspe. who seems to already have an earful."
Posted by: justsaying at March 18, 2008 8:05 PM
Amberlight @1130 this morning...give it time, a leopard never changes its spots.
Seems to be a bit of that going on around here....
You can change your name every day but usually writing "style" for want of a better word shines through, however darkly...................K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 18, 2008 7:45 PM
Abckenny.
you are missing out on one of lifes charms, on my triennial trip to Myers the other day I had a ball with a saleswoman named Toni. I did not (nor did she seem to mind) get the young grouch that seemed to think she was God's gift to retail (she spent eventually $20), I spent $100's. Try it sometime, wished she had have been in my profile range and had been available.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 18, 2008 7:44 PM
hi every one hows the week its stone cold3 here anyway i think the future may be with a one touch screen tv where you could be able to listen to music ipod will wear off like with cds i hear acer computers laptops taking the on next generation of consoles in the future well i nearly might as well give up on dating australian woman here in australia and may look further over seas over time and i have been thinking of bailingout on rsvp yet i not geeting to meet woman on this site take care your regards stonecold3
Posted by: stonecold3 at March 18, 2008 7:30 PM
Amber,
seems like we have another Mosquito buzzing around outside the mosquito net (post 1.23pm) but as I can't see it I will ignore it. just like the other one. Pity my post on that one (of the many vaired names)was not accepted, but maybe I am getting gentle since I have seen the path of sweetness and light. ( the moderator might have caught the bug lol)
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 18, 2008 7:14 PM
Ipods are awesome but a curse! I have two of them.. I brought the first one 2 years ago it was the latest 30g video playing ipod with a black finish... It died not 6 months later.. I brought it another state and have no idea on where the receipt is and warrenty would be over.. so I buy myself for xmas an Ipod classic 80g.. guess what happens, 2 days before I go over seas on a 10 hour flight it dies!.. they are great if they work.. but now I have these two expensive useless tools here..
Posted by: darcey24 at March 18, 2008 6:49 PM
Kenny and Riversong- who said these blogs weren't useful for advice. I have to change my shopping habits. NO more weekends looking at clothes- I'm going to Bunnings.
We need a hints column here. Guys- where else are there more male shop assistants than female?
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 18, 2008 6:48 PM
Amberlight at 11.30 today ... respect :-)
Posted by: pommysheila at March 18, 2008 6:18 PM
Amber,
seems like we have another Mosquito buzzing around outside the mosquito net (post 1.23pm) but as I can't see it I will ignore it. just like the other one. Pity my post on that one (of the many vaired names)was not accepted, but maybe I am getting gentle since I have seen the path of sweetness and light. ( the moderator might have caught the bug lol)
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 18, 2008 5:06 PM
Decoratress @ 1.44pm: I second that. I'd love a chance to spend a stamp on sending Justsaying privately my axed defence at 4am this morning against the string of slurs that he hit me with at 2.10pm yesterday.
Posted by: timewarp1 at March 18, 2008 4:41 PM
abskenny - with you flirting with the ashop ssistants, no wonder the queues take so long :) I have nothing against shop assistants, just don't consider my "retail experiences" "dating experiences"!
Karina, thank you for "moderating" the rest of my post about moderating!
Posted by: riversong1 at March 18, 2008 4:35 PM
Hi Justsaying..." Hello to You"
Getting a MP3 player, not bad...APPLE, I-Pod seems on demand in the market for many features satisfaction on and No Doubt on Brand names inter alia substitute for ....Apple PC (personal communication) But Asus laptop ( aim she understand somewhat-server) she aim looking anywhere, just needed Router ( relied overwhelming upon eternally resurrection). Hits song for autumn CD ( Certified Dreams ). Apple - Alien's Personal Peace Learning Extrasensory.
Re - I have seen the body language, of the Postie very nice, open and honest. OG...
Everyone can dream freely...The Postie is invisible myth, No eyes have had seen the body language....genuine guarantee....smile :))
Posted by: aliane at March 18, 2008 3:03 PM
I bought the teenager an Ipod for his bithday this week, then last night, he asked to borrow the credit card , as he needed $30.00 to get tunes....or something, it was midnight and I was asleep when he asked me!!! I thought that he would down load music of the web, like we do movies and stuff!!!
The future can be wunnerful, but does it have to cost all the time..it seems like they just invent all these gadgets and toys, aimed at the younger markets, who in turn think that they can't live without the things.
And having an IPod stuck in your ear all the time, like some of the younger ones do at work is very anti-social and rude. If you want to talk to someone at work, you shouldn't have to aplogise when they unplug themselves to talk or pay attention to you!!! And I love music, I work with background music/radio on my desk all day, but it is in the background, and I am avaliable to any work mate who needs to speak to me.
Just my thoughts, jave a lovely arvp all...jewels
Posted by: junebaby57 at March 18, 2008 2:31 PM
Posted by: willow1059 at March 17, 2008 8:13 PM - that is spot on. You have written your arguemnts really well and with intelligence. I wonder if any one at RSVP will pay attention and respond to you.
Have a lovely arvo...jewels
Posted by: junebaby57 at March 18, 2008 2:15 PM
Justsayingit,
I am breaking a self imposed rule in replying to you, you like quoteing me in my reply to Marcus re. Alaine. Partially that is, read the whole post (whoever/ whatever you are). Alaine sent me her photo password, so I was able to see her images. As to being a member of the staff, wrong again, imagine if I were where you would be. The moderator is a lot softer proposition than I would be with you.
Amber,
Thankyou for the identification of a serial namechanger. Keeping in line with the musical theme. The image you called to my mind when you outed the irrascible Richard was from the Movie "Those magnificent men in their flying machines".
Remember the leader of the Teutonic Team. I think you put Richard in a pool of the same product as the other pompous fool in the movie. When people have to go to those lengths, to draw attention to themselves, they only prove they do not have much to offer,online or offline
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 18, 2008 1:59 PM
One of many listed songs in my Apple - Ipod 2 gig with video.
This song dedicated to all...
Never Had A Dream Come True...
Posted by: aliane at March 18, 2008 1:54 PM
justsaying...
Any chance of your profile being visible briefly.. so I/we can see who you are?
Posted by: decoratress at March 18, 2008 1:44 PM
oldergent at March 18, 2008 9:35 AM, have you ever played a piano?
It doesn't even have to be a grand piano.
While playing, the vibrations and resonance that occur, are heard and felt by both player and audience.
No way can it be duplicated by an organ at that level.
That's why I prefer the real thing, rather than digitalised music.
Much like appreciating the "amber light" (amberlight58 at March 18, 2008 11:30 AM,) currently waving the torch of enlightenment at some stuck in the dark ages.
-Who strangely enough, seem to be drawn towards the younger and superficial aspects of life.
Posted by: justsaying at March 18, 2008 1:23 PM
Justsaying: Hey, I've just seen the best evidence yet that people who blog here should be forced to have, if not a full profile, at least an RSVP blogger's mailbox that other people could use, to contact them off-blog, at the cost of a stamp.
You rubbished me in the last blog and I returned the compliment. So you rubbished me again more determinedly and more insultingly at 2.10pm yesterday (17th), which I only saw at midnight, Mexican time. Long busy working day.
So I very carefully and quite civilly countered your 5 main slurs in a fairly long post. (Defending the truth takes more words than a quick unsubstantiated slur does.)
Went to post it, and it fell off the truck. Hello Mr Murphy! It was the small hours, and for once I'd forgotten to copy it to my clipboard first. Toyota!
To start all over again, or forget it?
I love a bit of fair-dinkum reasoned debate, and thought I had had made some very good points. So I did it all over again, and I finally got it finished and posted it about 4am - just before my short post applauding Willow's effort.
Posted by: timewarp1 at March 18, 2008 12:54 PM
amberlight - don't worry, I happen to like women in their 40s (and 50s) ... and I'm sure many of us "older" fools do as well. Don't get upset ... it just gets you upset. Hey, I pretty much like all women regardless of age ... except those who aren't honest (have to draw the line somewhere you know).
Posted by: woodnwine at March 18, 2008 12:42 PM
Like richardzkruspe stated at March 18, 2008 6:47 AM,
>"Ain't technology wunnerful."
Maybe I do need to think about getting a MP3 player (I may even consider an APPLE IPOD if this gets and stays posted,) to fill the blanks caused by OG's staff merrily pulling blogs that dare respond to the old boy.
Or maybe, I should practise sucking up (besides buying an APPLE IPOD)?
After all, it seems simple enough going by the precedent set here.
But if it is like I said before:
"Is it possible staff occasionally blog or, one or some of the bloggers are or become staff? (Let's see if this ever gets posted.)"
and,
"[There are so many blurred lines on here between commercialism and a genuine public forum, it would be informative to have contributors declare any vested interests so their comments could be assessed in the right context -as advertisers and politicians are usually bound to do by law.]"
"After all, oldergent did say at March 14, 2008 7:37 PM,"
>"Marcus,
>"I have seen the body language, of the Postie very nice, open and honest. OG"
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Posted by: justsaying at March 18, 2008 11:59 AM
Hi riversong1
perhaps you could try flirting with shop assistants? Many shop assistants are singles too and no less human than the rest of the population contrary to the beliefs of the 'elite'
Posted by: abckenny at March 18, 2008 11:57 AM
graham1972 - I have thought about your earlier post some more on music and surely you must agree that whilst the quality of compressed music (mp3) isn't necessarily very good it has made music much more accessible and has made it easier for more bands to gain airplay and popularity. Music is now so available and so polular that many genres that were kept somewhat "underground" before are now widely known and almost mainstream ... rap, punk, deathmetal, world, roots ....
The availability of cheap music has led to the rapid growth in the live music scene through festivals and concerts that were virtually unheard of only 10-15 years ago. It seems these days that there is always live music available in any city on any weekend and there is a never ending stream of music festivals. Combine that with MTV, MusicMax, Rage etc and music is now an everyday part of most people's lives. I fail to see how this is a bad thing and don't think it takes away from listening to good quality music at all ... MP3s are just a convenience ... a teaser for the real thing if you like. Enjoy!
Posted by: woodnwine at March 18, 2008 11:41 AM
Boyfriendmaterial...music is part of my religion, I can't lived without it from urband, pops, rocks, hiphops, techno remix, I still love to listen the revival of yesteryear's 70,80.90's up to the current hits song. As you mentioned spending large amount of cash for good quality sounds, Few years back I done a research which is the best sounds speakers to satisfied my eardrums pleasantly, boss speakers are now mass production, not as good as before. It's good to invest excellent sounds speakers worth every penny to spent, so I come up with Mordaunt-Short sounds speakers, best as far comparison to boss or any I've seen in advertisement, quite costly dearer and made in Britain. I never regret and best quality by far, also not mass production. There is only one shop in Australia, You can't find in the ordinary display as rarely for advertisement, asked the shop dealers in your local area.
Oohlala....best apple, one on top of tree, crunchy, sweet and juice, very satisfying, to get them, hard effort to climbed the branches, avoid apples fallen from the tree, are not best for a good bite...
Posted by: aliane at March 18, 2008 11:38 AM
To be on topic (for once), my son has an iPod and yes he does pay for his music!
It is also interesting that people seem to have withdrawn even further into themselves, and now use their iPods and MP3 players as a way of avoiding even basic human contact such as a smile or a nod.
Have any of you come across those people who have don't use headphones, but have speakers on their MP3s and seem to think it is okay to go around inflicting their idea of music on everyone else within a 100 metres of them?
virgil, March 16, 2008 12:57 PM from last blog.
Thank you for your kind comments. Yes, I had a lovely time, too. Good meal, great company, nice wine. It was nice to meet new people, although I felt as if we already knew each other! So yes, the blogs are good for also making new friends.
richardzkruspe, formerly known as alterscheiber, so glad you changed your name! You are probably right, maybe the German band your previous name was ??attributed to, may not have wished to have such immature and ridiculous comments associated with its name. (Bands generally want female fans and all women eventually end up over 40!!)
Your previous comments about all women on RSVP over 40 being "has beens", "old cows" (obviously you yourself, despite your advanced age, are not looking for friends in the over 40 female age group!!) would not have been exactly the sort of terminology RSVP may want to have associated with it. It appears RSVP likes to market itself as being a "happy" place where people can tell their success stories of finding true love and happiness.
I imagine women over 40 are a large part of its market, anyone new and slightly fragile, reading your comments on these blogs about women over 40, could well decide that RSVP is not for them!
(Of course, "old cows" like myself, don't find men with your attitude particularly intimidatiing; just fascinating as we watch you become more and more defensive and angry the more your ideas are challenged. Your descent into immature labels such as 'Feminist Nazi' reveals plenty about your character that may have been hidden to others, so I believe I am actually doing my younger "sisters" a favour, if any one of them in their wildest imagination, should possibly have thought that any kind of friendship with you based on maturity and mutual respect was possible!)
It is good to see that so far under your new "identity" you have not as yet let loose your unattractive rantings about older women (is it your mother or your partner you hate; or both?) but I feel sure that in time eventually it will happen.
Be sure, the "old cows" and "has beens" on this site, will be waiting to give you and anyone else of your ilk, back as much as you give!!
Posted by: amberlight58 at March 18, 2008 11:30 AM
Richard
It sounds like you have had some bad experiences with women, experiences that would, to you, shape your attitude to women, your expectations of them.
If what is below, is a represntation of the way women speak to you, then it seems your choice of women is often those who do not respect you and speak in that sort of a manner to you.
You appear physically strong on your profile photo's and sound like you have German origins, 4 years older than me, and it seems basically much sadder. The last 40 years or so have seen a major cultural revolution, where what it is to be a man has changed so much.
Others on this site have had difficulties in this area as well. Some feeling a bit left behind and confused as to what is appropriate behavoiur, maybe feeling that attack is the best form of defence.
I hope you can find peace and a sense of inner self worth, as these are what makes life worth living.
Posted by: virgil at March 18, 2008 10:44 AM
This is a dating site and it's competitive so I'm not at all surprised by some of the more personal attacks. It's like two stags rutting.
Posted by: cautious08 at March 18, 2008 1:46 AM
What an interesting obsevation cautious. There is often disharmony among the women as well, dooes the above observation cover that as well?
Posted by: virgil at March 18, 2008 10:12 AM
graham1972 ... your comments are well founded but I think not all encompassing. There is music and there is music ... I listen to the radio (quietly) at work and treat it as background music that doesn't entertain, it just creates a nice working environment. Then there are times when I really listen ... on good quality audio equipment and that is totally different ... I really appreciate what has gone into making it and I listen to the words. Then there are times when I pick up a guitar and try to play along with music.
Music, like all forms of art, has many facets and many forms of appreciation. Recorded, live, played yourself, sing-along, in the car, at work, in the quiet of your lounge room, alone, with others. Hey, it's all good.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 18, 2008 9:50 AM
Graham1972
Could not agree more, Ipod, mobile musac. Digital music is fine if you have an average system, I have a good system and still can play all the old vynils, sure the sound on the old 78's leaves a lot to be desired, but some of the later 33's with all the harmonics included I would not swap for a "cleaned up" reworked digital copy. but the purest joy is to sit at the organ and once in a while play a song properly without one mistake. Euphoria
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 18, 2008 9:35 AM
“Get that thing out of your ear. Have you taken out the garbage?”
“Have you fixed the hole in the ceiling yet, and get that thing out of your ear!”
“Aren’t you supposed to be off today; don’t bother coming back in a hurry; and get that thing out of your ear.”
Ain’t technology wunnerful.
Posted by: richardzkruspe at March 18, 2008 6:47 AM
On Apple and I-pod
Willow (and Wishfulthinker)
Read with interest your proposals for blog control, censorship and disclosure.
You might like to get the credibility ball rolling by revealing your own profile and full name and suburb, as I have to when I write a letter to a newspaper.
I like to work on Voltaire's principal that I may not agree with what you say but will fight for your right to say it. What say you tell what you think accepted community standards are and then what your suggested RSVP censorship overlay should exclude?
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 18, 2008 4:47 AM
Willow @ 8.13pm: Not just a pretty face! I'd have been very proud to have written that post. Goodonyer mate.
Posted by: timewarp1 at March 18, 2008 4:17 AM
As a music lover and producer of same, I find it weird that something, i.e. music has been commoditised to such a degree that people seem not to be able to live without it. I regard listening to music still, as a privelege when one is comfortable, relaxed, and if possible, hearing it on high quality equipment. The constant blaring of lo-fi rubbish every where one travels...in shopping malls, shops, restaurants, streetscapes et al just diminishes the value of the art. Imagine seeing Van Goghs, Rembrandts, Renoirs, Lindsays, Monets etc, at every turn of the head or eyes. It would be dull after a while. Music was once a folk activity; an activity where citizens participated....you still see it in Ireland, and virtually all third world countries. We in the West just tend to consume; not only music, but the visual arts, food etc. Where is the creative life? It is there of course, and with our relative wealth, the quality is excellent. But, and a big but, most of us are consumers, not creators. You can stick your ipods and lo-fi garbage right into the rubbish bin. Pick up an instrument and learn it. Get involved in making music or promoting it, or recording it. Then, it becomes truly satisfying.
Posted by: graham1972 at March 18, 2008 1:55 AM
Hello all
I don't view some of the spats I've seen as bullying.
This is a dating site and it's competitive so I'm not at all surprised by some of the more personal attacks. It's like two stags rutting.
Posted by: cautious08 at March 18, 2008 1:46 AM
Karina, I think the blog topics of most interest on a singles site are those related to dating and being single. I don't flirt with shop assistants nor date ipods!
Re moderating - there's no point delaying the blogs if you're not "moderating" anything. Some pretty twisted stuff goes on in here! :)
Posted by: riversong1 at March 18, 2008 1:22 AM
Songs only cost 99 cents? Do people actually pay for them? I dont know anyone who has purchased songs, but have ipods full of them. Dangerous little suckers they are (the iPods not the people) when users wear them riding their bikes, driving (odd when you can't use a phone in the car), and just walking along the path, totally oblivious to those sharing the path. They are a nightmare when cyclists try to raise the attention of walkers/runners who are tuned in and on the move. Banned from all races - so no listening to music while churning out a long road race....
Odd choice of topic for a dating site Karina.
Willow, liked your suggestions, as well as those from others - but alas, people can't play nicely in the sandbox all the time so moderation is probably here to stay for a while until those who like to insult others for the hell of it cease.
WoodnWine I think it was you that asked why do people get pleasure out of pulling someone apart, in the school system we often see those who "bully" now, as being victims of bullying earlier...can't see why this can't be translated to here. Those who feel the need to assert themselves over others (and you know who you are) often find this their only medium of feeling stronger and more in control. Sad really....
Goodnight....been a long day.....
Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 18, 2008 12:55 AM
This is really sad, we have no subject but are required to keep on subject. We are moderated by the site owner to not be open and honest and express feelings and ideas with free speech. Apart from one member dropping a four letter word in a post I can see nothing else offensive, boring sometimes and tedious but that's what blogs sometimes are.
Posted by: iaminperth at March 18, 2008 12:32 AM
ipods and mp3's seem like toys for kids. Is there any way to get a decent sound out of them? I've tried spending a large amount of cash on a Bose soundock, but the quality just isn't there. Seems to be a problem with the quality of the recording medium.
Remember when the sound quality of music was taken a little bit more seriously? Perhaps this is the future then? Well, quality does seem to suffer at the hands of mass production.
Music DVD's played over a decent sight and sound system. That's technology that I welcome :)
Posted by: boyfriendmaterial at March 18, 2008 12:15 AM
Personally I prefer my mp3 player, itunes seems to crash my computer or at least slow it down too much, and trying to make a playable cd has failed many times. My mp3 player is true water resistant, I have taken it to 2 metres - I mainly use it while I am paddling my surfski so it doesn't have to withstand that depth often! Funny thing is the sound is better through the water proof ear phones if u are partly under water.
Posted by: tenisfun at March 17, 2008 11:47 PM
I just need to post this one comment 'cause I just can't hold my tongue any longer and I might just burst if I don't spit this out -(then I'm gone again for a while as real life calls).
If you have a genuine complaint or suggestion, contact RSVP via the legitimate channels.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 17, 2008 10:27 PM
Hi laughsandtalks....Ok I'm attentive now to spell check correct your name...
Yes,...I'm always the apple in their eyes to chose, chase and chuck?....OK, .I've haven't finished yet the book chapter...to be continued...I mean to say is...<< chuck their bad habits to change for good, Come, Closer, Challenge the Creation of Carnation Cascade to Cherish and Caress....
When Men felt the world lost of love ..is part of a Chapter...pages..
When Women felt the world of lost love..is part of the Whole Book....
Posted by: aliane at March 17, 2008 9:48 PM
Hi all.. back from a few days away and thought I'd drop in and see if the posting has been updated in my absence or if we're still twiddling thumbs and waiting patiently. If it's the later then sorry but I'll take a break for a while.. Cheers... "G"
Posted by: amdoingit at March 17, 2008 9:36 PM
Karina, nice to see a post where you are letting us know (in part) what the plans for the blogs are, albeit very undefined at present.
The others have already presented some excellent suggestions about how to move forward from the more recent restricted blogging rights.
What I think is clear is the majority of us want an environment where people are free to diverge from topic as this seems to act as a catalyst for vibrant and diverse interests and opinions.
Equally blogs without instant posting lose the human element of interaction and spontaneity. Without this blogs serve little useful purpose.
The analogy of a moderator to a referee or umpire in earlier posts was well thought through, there can be little doubt the blogs need moderation. I believe the question is not should there be but what form should moderation take. Equally it needs to be consistent and fairly applied along set and well defined parameters.
From my perspective moderation need to preserve several key elements.
Firstly, the need to protect RSVP from litigation where individuals have been defamed or where the potential may be considered to be real. Secondly, to protect the RSVP brand (image). There can be little doubt recent events have tested these parameters.
Thirdly, from a client (us) perspective the blogs should be a place of free speech to the extent it reflects commonly accepted community standards. Overlayed upon this should be the previously mentioned framework the blogs need to reflect well upon RSVP and the image it seeks to protect, after all this is a commercial enterprise.
To me, the no go areas are the more offensive swear words F*** etc. Blatant attacks upon the character of others, persistent lack of respect for the rights of others to offer an opinion (not judgement) and disclosure of the names of other bloggers without their consent particularly where the nature of the blog is adverse to them. More generally, any content intended or that may reasonably be construed as demeaning to others.
How may this be achieved?
Since I am unaware of the infrastructure, physical and software of this site I shall offer suggestions without any consideration of the practicality in the short term of these.
For instant blogging rights to be granted
1. A visible profile, the objection that some will say they are here for blogging only is easily overcome but stating this in their profile and by indicating the profile is a pen pal type, even better create a new type "blogger only, not seeking a partner".
2. No multiple identities, these can be reduced by validating a profile against the email address and/or mobile number upon registration. Only one profile per email address/mobile number unless an internal RSVP audit determines there is more than one legitimate client at that email address.
3. Server based review of blogs for offensive contents (much like a spam filter), posts with offensive predetermined swear words or other offensive material will be automatically filtered out. This can be achieved by searching for character strings. Not posting any part of the blog at all will serve as a future deterrent.
4. Revocation of blog rights for set periods for multiple breaches.
5. Importantly, define a set of guidelines for acceptable conduct and make these available up front for all to see. For instant posting rights to be granted the client (us) should be made to read and accept a user agreement stating we agree to abide by the rules otherwise the privilege may be withdrawn.
My working experience leads me to the conclusion these steps should be easily attainable for a commercial enterprise, the question from where I sit is whether the resolve is present within RSVP to establish these blogs as a place of integrity and high standing among peers.
From a personal perspective, I would enjoy rejoining the RSVP blog community where the experience once again is rewarding as it was several months ago. It was rich and full of wit, humour, consideration and intellect. At times strains in the fabric of the blog community was evident but these were the exception rather than the rule.
Posted by: willow1059 at March 17, 2008 8:13 PM
I wonder if we will be getting any further blogs tonight?
I seem to recall a cutoff time of around 6.38 on the first night.
It was very encouraging to hear directly from Karina today.
I did a lot of stuff with MP3's about 10 years ago while it was OK to use Napster etc, but havent caught up with them for ages.
Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 8:13 PM
I just wonder how many accidents are caused to or by folk who get around with these contraptions stuck in there ears. the cant hear the traffic.
I have lots of songs on my apple computer.
Aliane if apples were men I would like to have one a day.
Posted by: oohlala1 at March 17, 2008 7:40 PM
Marcus .... some people do make themselves targets, yes ... but there is still a big difference between strong disagreement and abuse. If someone behaves like a fool (including me) by all means go for them but there is still no reason to abuse and humiliate someone you don't even know (not referring to you specifically ... just speaking generally). There is a certain amount of eloquence and one-upsmanship in wisdom as opposed to crudity.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 17, 2008 7:37 PM
HLL,@ 4.49
Nice of you to ask. Such things as "what do women look for in a man as a partner/husband" " What turns women off a man" "Inches can be important but how important in height" " what influences women at first and the most about men" etc, etc.You may not think these questions are male orientated but they are, for us men that are serious about finding a companion, and do not have the insight into the female mind some of the expert daters on this site have
Posted by: oldergent at March 17, 2008 7:35 PM
Virgil, darle, my name change is out of respect to the lead guitarist in Germany’s top band, who has been responsible for putting Germany well and truly back on the map of hard industrial rock. I seriously contemplated Bohse Onkelz (Bad Uncle) but thought the symbolic association might arouse the women’s libbers with suggestions of paedophilia, especially on a blog site like this where no-one is allowed on until they have their Seniors Card. But the reason why so many name changes- bit like changing your underwear really; try doing it daily to avoid catching something that looks too much like what women don’t want to see- and also, too many women get on my case and won’t remove themselves every I try to get another bottle of dry dry red(head) out of it. My Easter plans have not changed, and I have an excellent activity partner joining me, so suffer. Of course it is all platonic. Just in case anyone gets the wrong idea about the fact that I am only seeking friends.
Posted by: richardzkruspe at March 17, 2008 7:30 PM
Gee l like my ipod....................K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 17, 2008 7:26 PM
Woodnwine.
As well as the nature of abuse hurlers you might want to ponder why some people here want to be abused, and pleasured by it.
I met one woman, not currently blogging, who when told about my engineering abilities asked me to make her a man sized flagellation A frame as she reckoned there were plenty of RSVP males in need of attention from her riding crop.
Aliane: You are the apple in their eyes to chose, chase and chuck? Are you sure you meant chuck?
Cheers Marquis
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 17, 2008 6:34 PM
Ok Apple for all generation....What all about apple.?
Ok, Apple - an apple a day keeps a Doctors away...
Apple - Adam's apple cute guys really masculine...
Apple - fruits...ganny smith, pineapple, apple juice..hmm name it...
Apple - this is I like I find guys always I'm >>>apple in their eyes, made us between good & evil to chose, chat, chase then chuck. So I updated my fast moving high-tech...change my mobile more features available for internet dating. Now I can use my N95i - 8gig with all those extra features, internet, maps, music, camera, videos, usb, more searching..just kidding>..
This is all about... " APPLE Temptation " is all started fro the beginning of time....
An Apple - Kiss ..a day keeps my heart always smile and happy....Apple + Heart = LOVE...
Posted by: aliane at March 17, 2008 6:01 PM
If we can easily block someone who sends us rude or offending emails then the moderator can easily block offenders here also. And if some are more tactful about how they word their opinions then less would be offended and retaliate.
I miss the spirited blogs -after spending my day with children I enjoy some adult conversation even when I stay at home which is not that often.Its hard to converse if I have to wait for hours for some feedback.
This new topic- I can relate it to the last-if your date sticks his/her Ipod in his/her ear then he/she is giving you very clear body language!
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 17, 2008 5:42 PM
If we can easily block someone who sends us rude or offending emails then the moderator can easily block offenders here also. And if some are more tactful about how they word their opinions then less would be offended and retaliate.
I miss the spirited blogs -after spending my day with children I enjoy some adult conversation even when I stay at home which is not that often.Its hard to converse if I have to wait for hours for some feedback.
This new topic- I can relate it to the last-if your date sticks his/her Ipod in his/her ear then he/she is giving you very clear body language!
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 17, 2008 5:41 PM
Karina - thank you for your comment in here. I have been a fairly enthusiastic blogger for a while - recently particularly so. I've made good, genuine friends here and found it a supportive and enjoyable forum to get involved with (and like many others have used stamps to contact bloggers).
When we had "real time" postings, my participation increased, as it became akin to a chat room, with far more spontaneity and enjoyment had by all, I think. With the recent changes, I decided to give it up totally as it had lost whatever appeal it had been holding for me, and also if there has to be some sort of strict adherence to topic, that's going to be strained, unrealistic and boring. There's only so much you can say about some of these subjects, whereas when we were able to take it wherever we wished, some genuinely interesting debate took place.
However, yes, some sort of moderation is most likely a good idea, in my opinion. I agree with others' suggestions, like woodnwine and decoratress. If someone is found to have been offensive to someone (and we've surely had a fair few since these blogs began at different times) their posts removed, a warning given and some sort of "3 strikes and out" policy seems to be perfectly reasonable to me. But posts held to be all read and approved of before posting seems excessive and unnecessary to me.
That's my thoughts on the matter, if you're wanting input. If we can have real-time postings again and not overly aggressive moderating, I'll most likely continue to post. If not, then thanks for the opportunities the blogs have given me, and adieu....
Posted by: malsie at March 17, 2008 5:37 PM
Older Gent
You are so right.
I doubt if real men would take kindly to wimps and limpwrists saying whether or not they should continue blogging. Women they can flick off like swatting a fly, but susses would rouse the heights of male anger.
That, by the way, is not a personal attack on anyone; it is just a statement of principle.
Leaving aside the fact that the Wayne Careys and Shane Warnes of this world don�t appear to be members of the site, there may still be a few isolated examples of the genre present.
Posted by: richardzkruspe at March 17, 2008 5:21 PM
Good afternoon Richardzkruspe
I notice this morning you were called alterscheiber and had your profile hidden, prior to the easter weekend.
Have your plans changed?
Could you please enlighten me as to the advantages of frequent name changes.
If I could hazard a guess, deception would be right up there.
Maybe of fellow bloggers, or might it be women on the RSVP site looking for new members?
Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 5:02 PM
Karina.
So much for all this modern tech gear. Ipod? Look how this blog has free wheeled all afternoon, this I think is what makes this site so viable and worthwhile, not to mention interesting. I have had my moments on here and have been pulled into line, on and off line, shown the path to sweetness and light (unless some nong upsets me again LOL) and generally have been behaving myself (under the hypnotic gaze of Aunty Kaz's profile pic lol). So I must concur with her post of 4.23 pm
In enjoyment Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 17, 2008 4:52 PM
OG: Could you give some examples of "male-oriented topics" please? Looking at recent topics to the right of the screen - body language, the silliest question, is age just a number etc etc - IMHO they are as relevant to males as females, but perhaps I've missed something ...
Posted by: hinterlandlover at March 17, 2008 4:49 PM
RichardZ,
As to losing money on stamps I have found RSViP worth it. As to referee's totally agree, (long as its Union or League LOL), realistically I think there has to be site control, self regulation leaves many people open to personalities, ( imagine how long Marcus or just or alter would last). I agree most of my expenditure on this site has come from blog contact.
Decor.@4.04 pm 17.3
your views on or definition of etc, "won't be everyones" maybe should be.
As always Cheers
OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 17, 2008 4:32 PM
Nothing wrong with spirited debate guys, l think l have engaged in my fair share of that of late........
Those who insult others know that they are doing it....Hell l have done it myself.
Maybe if insulting posts are complained about to the moderators (genuinely l might add) and removed, or the person in question is flagged by the moderators and then given a sorta 3 stikes and you are sin binned for a week or something........
Or then maybe we could all be rational debaters as our adult status accords us and try to behave in a correct and reasonable manner, the ocassional dummy spit notwithstanding...................K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 17, 2008 4:23 PM
But, Decoratress, You look so wunnerful.
And your van doesn’t look too bad either.
Posted by: richardzkruspe at March 17, 2008 4:21 PM
Why do some people actually get pleasure out of abusing others? That principal fascinates me ... as do many others (some relating to dating).
Posted by: woodnwine at March 17, 2008 4:20 PM
justsaying @ 2.10pm...
Thank you for your positive comments.
It's not a "detractor" who is causing me to try to avoid this site- as you know.
Posted by: decoratress at March 17, 2008 4:17 PM
laughsandtalks @ 2.59
I've not suggested removing the 'personality' on the blogs at all.. but one doesn't need to resort to offensiveness to have personality...
Argument can be good, accepted, but one can argue in a debating manner, or debate in an argumentative manner. By 'argument' I referred to the more belligerent type, which many find offensive.
Invective? Sure.. you won't offend me by swearing... hahaha....
.... but insulting individual bloggers on, say, their appearance.... I personally don't find that adult or entertaining.
In answer to your question..
No
I'm not nominating for anything.
My views on, or definition of, courtesy & respect certainly won't be everyone's.
Just stating my personal preferences re blog content.. as everyone is entitled to..
& interested to know others' views.. as always.
Posted by: decoratress at March 17, 2008 4:04 PM
The blogs certainly appear, to all intents and purposes, to be self funding.
Mind you there is a certain amount of unused stamp wastage. A lot do get unused (mostly out of disgustation) or else the personas get wasted.
Aliane was handing out stamps but couldn’t get transfer permission.
I had $50 disappear on me when sin binned.
Self moderating does not work Virgil. Only the insipids will be left.
And can one claim credits through natural disappearances on yet another venture into deep and darkest Africa looking for more adventure.
After decades of football refereeing, I have never seen a successful football match without a ref.
Posted by: richardzkruspe at March 17, 2008 3:56 PM
Hi decoratress - I agree there is no need or room for vindictiveness or personal attacks on the blogs but also believe that open and strong debate is what makes the blogs interesting (I think you agree).
We should be allowed some interesting topics about dating and the difference in expectations between the sexes ... many good ideas have already been given.
We should be allowed to moderate ourselves but if a person steps way over the line or is overwhelmingly complained about then they should be removed for a set period (as per OG's suggestion) and maybe 3 strikes and you're banned.
Karina ... thanks for your consideration of our requests to keep this site vibrant.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 17, 2008 3:54 PM
Decoratress.
Are you nominating as the mauve tinged moderator and manners arbiter?
More topical debate would be good fer sure but trying to remove the arguments, personality and invective will reduce the entertainment value for many posters (and lurkers).
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 17, 2008 2:59 PM
Hi guys, we are currently exploring the best options to moderate the blogs and we are going to be trying a few new things on the course of the next couple of weeks.
I appreciate your suggestions and I am certainly taking them all into consideration. Not everything is possible but I will try to accommodate everyone as much as I can.
Cheers,
Karina
Posted by: rsvpproducttest at March 17, 2008 2:51 PM
abckenny.
No moderation seen from here except those that block my sometime use of the f word. And that could be a simple auto pilot checker.
If this becomes an open chat style resource that consumes staff time inevitably it will have to be paid for. Perhaps RSVP will levy a stamp charge to join- or close it. Perhaps they can fund it by using the unspent stamp money from cancelled accounts?
As for it being valid market testing stuff, the demographic here is a bit off target for that to be useful.
Cheers MS
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 17, 2008 2:49 PM
Karina
If you abolish the blogs, they’ll all end up crying, or go back to watching the garbage on the tele.
There are a lot of lonely people out there, and singles are even more lonely as they won’t even contemplate hiring Martha’s Nagging Service (see the Yellow Pages), which allows them to have a real life woman in the house who’ll give them a taste of married/relationship life.
If it is in the least bit relevant, at last count I have about 10 MP3 players loaded to the hilt with all sorts of exotic music- well mostly bluegrass, greengrass, keep off the grass, lay off the grass, stick to the vino- thanks to tech nerds who enable end users to enjoy 1500 tracks without blinking an eyelid. Camera cards, motherboards, processors 3g mobiles, etc are ridiculously priced below the cost of a tank load of petrol and the Health Department wonders why kids these days are stuck to keyboard gameplaying and adults to screen identities rather than hitting the road.
And even the cost of mobile phone calls have plummeted. Help! If she rings me again I’m going to scream. Just kidding. Message bank loves her smoochy kisses (gotta say something remotely relevant to this site).
Posted by: richardzkruspe at March 17, 2008 2:42 PM
Hinterlandlover - I totally agree with you. Let the blogs go where they will in discussion.
And if we do need a topic to get the ball rolling surely let it be something relevant to the site.
Marcus - Well said.
Jen
Posted by: jenniferhi at March 17, 2008 2:34 PM
Karina
I was wondering if we all played nicely together in the sandpit, whether we might be able to self moderate, that would return our instantaneous postings. OG has a good suggestion that any offender could be removed from the bloggs for a period set by yourselves.
Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 2:30 PM
rsvpproducttest @ 12.11...
It appears to me, that people want only three things from you:
- Intelligent moderating (& 24/7 would be good, seeing as how the site {therefore your income} is 24/7...)
- Real time posting for all except objectionably aggressive members, whose names you could tag & subject to the delay
- Topics which we have already suggested, in response to..... yes..... your very own Topic asking for.....yes..... new Topics. W&W is right- why ask us for topic suggestions, then ignore the dozens of excellent ideas, & ask again?
For our part, as bloggers, I would like to think that we want free discussion, debate rather than argument, the absence of personal insult, & respect & acceptable manners shown towards all... would I be right there?
Comments welcome...
Posted by: decoratress at March 17, 2008 2:27 PM
Seems to me that there is very little moderating going on but rather a disruption to chat and real time blogs
Posted by: abckenny at March 17, 2008 2:17 PM
Karina "not happy" with the blog topic?
Nahhhh, it just gives some of us something extra to exercise our ingenuity on, by trying to hold a conversation in this "please respond" public forum.
-Providing we are allowed to blog, of course.
hinterlandlover at March 17, 2008 11:10 AM and "perhaps someone can enlighten me as to how this topic relates to internet dating???",
is so relevant, on a topic that is so yawningly irrelevant.
This new topic has the appearance of an ad for Apple and Amazon.
Apple must've paid three times more than Amazon by rating four mentions (two per the two paragraphs) while Amazon has only one.
As,
"Apple has tapped into a universe that is different from what people have ever seen before",
they shouldn't mind some of us continuing our usual blogging conversations, thereby allowing Apple be exposed to yet another "universe that is different".
I blank ads on telly, so why should I bother discussing their latest gizmos on here?
But wait, I have made a sacrifice where I do (check the end to see how many times).
After all, one must pay a price to be allowed the privilege of blogging on here.
________________________________
Now with reference to the former topic Body Language (so much more relevant to the dating scene than an IPOD)...
BODY LANGUAGE....
Spot on (wrote this yesterday before I saw jenniferhi's post 16.3.08, not believing Sunday posting was possible) with your post decoratress, at March 16, 2008 1:43 AM.
Also very well said, with your post 16, 2008 1:16 AM.
Decoratress, don't let a detractor take you away from this forum. Reconsider the decision to take a break [I now see you already have] from blogging because your wisdom is a welcome break from the norm. Besides your positively constructive and succint comments being quite often, light-hearted sanity-break interjections, you also manage to hold onto your dignity. Unlike a lot of us.
[Just use an APPLE IPOD and I'm sure the digitalised music will take your mind off the idgits on here.]
Posted by: amberlight58 at March 15, 2008 1:47 PM.
-Good for you to demonstrate the contradictory nature of that particular beast.
Just as good on another topic, with your posting at March 16, 2008 11:34 AM,
using logic, facts and a sense of fair play.
Great to see you are keeping the Aussi tradition of, "Keeping the b*stards honest".
What a pity some OB's on here seem to have no idea of facts, logic, fair play or, any sense of being honest.
[Perhaps they can be brainwashed by some up-to-date music on an APPLE IPOD?]
Speaking of which...
Posted by: iaminperth at March 16, 2008 8:44 PM, you've nailed it in one with TW's predilection for false attributions.
But TW staring any longer (doesn't that happen often enough now?) at the computer screen is not going to make any difference to the paternalistic cognitive and cultural/era perceptions. No matter how much brown-nosing he may use in-between. Don't think even a mirror would help. Self analysis coloured by wild imaginings, presumptions along with all that ducking, diving and backtracking, would be difficult if not possible for one so demonstrably warped and out of line and time.
Just understand it as the old dodge/duck/weave lurk, with a dose of patronising thrown in, ably abetted by layers of self-interested sexism and label it as -No Hope (add an "r" if so wished) of ever changing.
[The old c/dodger would probably have no idea of the original AMAZONian women , let alone the modern version.]
Like amberlight58 said, at March 16, 2008 11:34 AM,
"It is interesting that when taken to account for such transgressions, men often resort to the "feminist Nazi" or similar stereotypes about women who dare to question or ask them to justify their statements."
[Eve is still blamed for giving Adam the APPLE of knowledge.]
-By the way, any men who try labelling me a "feminist Nazi...about women who dare to question",
are going to find that a tad difficult to do... (I'm still saying size does matter).
[After all, a dinky sized IPOD earpiece is only designed for the size of an ear.]
Which now leads to a couple of questions:
Are there any regular bloggers on here who are not old, middle aged or married?
[Consider this as a pre-survey for APPLE to target a relevant audience.]
Here's the other:
Is it possible staff occasionally blog or, one or some of the bloggers are or become staff? (Let's see if this ever gets posted.)
After all, oldergent did say at March 14, 2008 7:37 PM,
>"Marcus,
>"I have seen the body language, of the Postie very nice, open and honest. OG"
[There are so many blurred lines on here between commercialism and a genuine public forum, it would be informative to have contributors declare any vested interests so their comments could be assessed in the right context -as advertisers and politicians are usually bound to do by law.]
Signed by,
JustSaying
-Was temporarily Simplicious but still with the SAME profile.
(Does no one on here ever try a new nickname, beer or partner to find what suits them?)
[Or even a different, dare I say it, BRAND of mp3 player/IPOD?]
Speaking of which and linking a point to the [now previous] blog topic; people changing their name, altering their outward appearance, sometimes change their body language, consciously or not.
(That's not even taking into account other peoples' subsequent reactions and subtle changes occurring from thereon, of course.)
Classic examples in real life are when a female has a new flattering hair style/makeup or when a male dons a dark suit, white shirt and cufflinks. The ensuing boost to confidence can be physically, quite obvious.
To be fair, decolletage in both cases, can make or break a new image and run interference with perception.
Just imagine trying to make sense of a person's body language, when one can't drag one's eyes away from all that belly button or chest fluff.
Or, if ears are blocked by an APPLE IPOD bought via AMAZON, listening to a Dupred 99cent download with minds further scrambled by a superficial piece of Spitzer fluff.
As I've managed to mention APPLE 10 times, IPOD six times and AMAZON five times in this post,
will I be getting an advertising or stringer's fee, for my diligence with insertions?
Posted by: justsaying at March 17, 2008 2:10 PM
Hi guys,
I will get back to you soon regarding the future of the blogs. So you know I am also working on an evening shift for the moderators.
Cheers,
Karina
Posted by: rsvpproducttest at March 17, 2008 2:05 PM
Ipods blazing into earlobes everywhere we turn? The pure sounds of emotions blazing Into earlobes? WTF. Hahaha.
This is some sort of crap, obsequious Apple promotion or marketing survey.
I fund RSVP by buying stamps at 100 bucks a time thanks and don't want this dating and relationship irrelevancy.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 17, 2008 1:46 PM
If the preceeding is not a joke it then becomes the best move you have made. Interaction with your bloggers. You would have seen the complaints of the genuine and constant people on this site. Try to address the gender imbalance of the site, More male orientated topics, this will give the Ladies an insight into the mens world. I know I have learnt a lot by listening to their views. Post a questionaire of what you would like to see happen, you are almost guaranteed to get the answers you seek, and see also if you can get back to real time posting. I think the point has been made with the moderator being called in. If your real time rules are breached pull (with a warning first) that person off for a set time. I has been suggested to me off line that the blog profile can be based on the email address supplied to stop mutiple identities.
One of the topics I would suggest is the difference between the generations, now I notice that we have people as young as 22 and up to the mid 70's.
Thank you
OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 17, 2008 1:14 PM
What's wrong with just blogging/chatting about whatever is currently on our minds, concerning us, bugging us, including our positive experiences, so long as it relates in one way or another to online dating, specifically to "RSVP-ing"??? As a "RSVP community" so to speak, such as they have with eBay. Perhaps for a week or so as a trial, to see how it developed? How do others feel? Now is our opportunity as we've been asked for suggestions.
virgil: Trip back was good thanks, the whole Adelaide experience positive, despite the heat!
Posted by: hinterlandlover at March 17, 2008 12:40 PM
Karina - there was a whole blog topic last year related to suggestions for future blog topics ... I suggest you take a look there.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 17, 2008 12:26 PM
That�s nice of the Apple Orchard to reach such a digital milestone.
Goes with their demography- people who know no better and have not departed from the same musical tastes and tracks they listened to when they were being cast by society into the straightjackets that was their predestined existence. All in all, you�re just another Brick In The Wall.
By comparison, any experienced user of MySpace will know that the mainstream big names in the industry do not load their tracks onto MySpace pages, for a very good reason. Maybe MySpace users, as well as being a bit more hip in their musical tastes, might also be a bit more politically recidivist and mentally unable to contribute, out of principle, to the capitalist propaganda that pervades some much mainstream technology.
Any chance of some digitally enhanced women on here, that we can download.
Posted by: alterscheiber at March 17, 2008 12:22 PM
Hullo Karina
Can you enlighten us to the future of the Blog, I suppos in particular to the possibility of returning to instantaeous posting sometime soon?
If not, can we have an afternoon/evening shift when most bloggers are home from work?
Thanks
Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 12:22 PM
This topic does not relate to online dating. I thought it would be nice to have a little bit of a variety hence today's topic.
If you are not happy feel free to send suggestions in.
Cheers,
Karina
Posted by: rsvpproducttest at March 17, 2008 12:11 PM
Hi HL
they are improving on this model, even had some weekend and evening posts of late.
I dont think it relates to internet dating, but then we rarely tick to the topic anyway. I how was your trip back?
Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 11:57 AM
good morning everyone, though given this new regime it may well be "good night" when this is posted ... anyway ... perhaps someone can enlighten me as to how this topic relates to internet dating???
Posted by: hinterlandlover at March 17, 2008 11:10 AM
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