RSVP Blog
Is Age just a Number?
You hear it all the time: 'age is just a number'. Sure, it is exactly that, but do not tell me it means absolutely nothing! When you were 18, you could buy yourself cigarettes from any gas station or 7-Eleven you pleased. When you were 16, you were limited to buying cigarettes from that one 7-Eleven; the only one that would sell to you without checking ID.
When you were 18, you were able to go into that 7-Eleven and buy your own alcohol. When you were 17, the same 7-Eleven that used to sell you cigarettes when you were 16, had all of a sudden become "law abiding" and would not sell you alcohol. So, naturally, you would stand outside and wait to pay someone to purchase alcohol for you. So you see, while age is a number, it holds valuable meaning. How does age affects dating? Is it true that men have an obsession for younger women? What about women, are they afraid to date younger men? How do you get past the age issue?
Posted by March 4, 2008 11:40 AM
Latest Comments
WnW It could be beneficial to know who has added you to their favourites list.
After all they have at least deemed your profile worthy of a second look.
It would definitely be of more interest than knowing who has recently viewed your profile
Posted by: abckenny at March 6, 2008 1:09 PM
Here's another lunchtime question. I just sent out a couple of kisses to women with password protected photos and I always feel really bad when someone replies that they are interested with their password but I am not interested once I see their photo.
I hope this doesn't make me appear shallow but there does have to be physical attraction after all. Also, my deciding I'm not attracted doesn't necessarily equate to saying they aren't attractive, just not what I'm looking for. In fact I have had this happen where a few women were extremely attractive but just clearly not my type .... as I'm a pretty casual person and not looking for a fashion model type.
OK, the question is ... if you are someone who has a password protected photo, does it really annoy you when you send someone your password but never heaqr back from them or do you just accept this and not worry about it?
Posted by: woodnwine at March 6, 2008 1:03 PM
I have just looked at my home page and noticed the number of people who have me listed in their favourites ... wouldn't it be interesting to know who they are? What do others think?
Posted by: woodnwine at March 6, 2008 12:48 PM
Hi, noname7 - nice to have you join "the party"!
I agree with you totally about "old" 30 year olds, and "young" 70 year olds. In many ways it's a state of mind.
As a general comment - attraction, though, isn't something you can make happen and sometimes age differences come into that, because with the best will in the world, we fancy who we fancy.... I understand a "preferred" age for men and for women. Sometimes that's just a guide. You can think you wouldn't be attracted to someone 10 years older, for instance, then out of the blue someone just knocks you off your feat and their age suddenly is of no importance.
Posted by: malsie at March 6, 2008 12:42 PM
Just a suggestion for everyone .... if you don't like a post, don't read it all just move on to the next one.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 6, 2008 12:38 PM
noname7 - I agree with what you are saying but would just like to point out (as I'm sure you can imagine) there are quite a few women on RSVP who very blatently state that they will only consider much younger men. I even saw one once who wanted a man almost the same age as her oldest child ... now that I thought was weird and makes me worry a bit.
Nice post kianee ... keep them up.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 6, 2008 12:37 PM
Ps correction ........... last sentence of my blog should read....... I truly appreciate the people in here (regardless of age or gender or) with wisdom, compassion and laughter in their voices.
Posted by: kianee at March 6, 2008 12:16 PM
I have read the deterioration of the discussions in this place with a sinking heart, and can see the hurt and pain inflicted on some people for the gratification of others.
I come in here to escape the mundane of my own life and to broaden my outlook, to experience the humour and wisdom of so many beautiful people, and I am mostly not disappointed. I love the light hearted banter, the pearls of wisdom, points of view, incidences of compassion, the courage to articulate points of view, and the incredibly broad area knowledge. And believe that this plus companionship is the reason that most people are here.
It is impossible for me to come here as often as I would like, and I do not speak out, as many others say what I feel a thousand times better than I could, yet need to make a contribution this time
Age does not equate to wisdom and knowledge. Age, wisdom, knowledge does not does not necessarily equate compassion. I truly appreciate the people in here (regardless of gender) with wisdom, compassion and laughter in their voices.
. take care . of yourselves and of others
Posted by: kianee at March 6, 2008 12:11 PM
Noname7,
Welcome, very interesting post, Hope to hear more from you.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 12:08 PM
Good morning all,
To set the record straight Willow did have an engagement last night he told me this when we exchanged mail earlier in the day, so he was not off in a sulk as some may have thought. Maybe he should have posted his private reply to this page, I thought it was better than the public one. Consise and very much to the point. I tendered my apology in private, consider this a public one, wether it meets the same fate? But one thing is for sure, the postings of late are succinct. OK things have be a bit rowdy and pointed of late, I have advice pouring in and largely take the suggestion of skipping over the posts of those that I do not agree with, as I am sure a lot of you do mine, hang on, from the flak I have been copping that can't be right. What we really need ( if I may once again dictate the rules, as has been suggested) is an influx of new bloggers, the present pool is a bit narrow and more likely to create personality clashes. I do not use the word Lurkers it creates visions of people up to no good. Peepers come and join in and put forward your views and experiences. To the military man Ron, I for one would like to hear from you again.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 11:56 AM
I feel like Ive just walked into the wrong party and I dont know anyone. Im scared to open my mouth cos theres a really intense vibe going on. Im looking around for a neutral conversation to join in , thank you riversong, I feel more comfortable now. I think some people forget we are all humans with feelings on here. Because we cant see each others facial expressions and body language, something fundamental changes in the way we communicate. Maybe Im wrong, But I have just said out loud things that I would keep in my own head if it were indeed a party , and I could see and touch you all. Its obvious really. Someone naturally shy can become very confident on here, without the life experience that a truly confident person would have, and without the backlash that can come with speaking your mind in public. Seems to me age is an attitude, becoming stuck in old thought patterns and unable to change stubborn perceptions. Or enforcing the same old narrow minded rules on your children that you hated when you were a child, for no reason other than habit.(Parents are still nagging about 'modern' music, and telling their kids to get haircuts) Or allowing yourself to sit and wallow and become unhealthy cos thats how it is when you get older. I know people who are old at30 and I have met young vibrant 70 year olds. So it annoys me when I see men who are say 45 and they only want to meet women aged between 25 and 39.If Suzie turns 40 on Friday they will consider her on Thursday, but not on Saturday??? They wont even consider their own age group? What are they afraid of, seeing their own advancing years reflected in the eyes of another? Its their perogative I know . Now I try to look at their profiles and the things they say, and figure out if their attitudes could just be part of the reason why they are single
Posted by: noname7 at March 6, 2008 11:54 AM
riversong ... this is what I am confused about "....the definition of what a man is has changed over the past fifty years...some men are still confused about this..."
Posted by: istj54 at March 6, 2008 8:04 AM
Posted by: woodnwine at March 6, 2008 11:47 AM
"ps I do not intentionally set out to be cruel but some people need it to re-evaluate themselves."
Nobody, oldergent... that's NOBODY...
"needs" cruelty.
Ever.
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 6:42 PM
As a law student, for my own edification and to see if I was interested in certain areas of practice, I have sat through weeks and weeks of a few cases, days and hours of others. Most judges have kindness and humanity. The best judges have kindness. Acceptance, tolerance, empathy or at the very least sympathy are desired qualities in society. Being anonymous or unable to meet someone is not a reason to be cruel to anyone. We do not know what else someone is going through. No one has any right to judge unless they are completely perfect."Let he who is with out sin, cast the first stone." Some people have no conscience and I met someone recently who believes that nothing they do is right or wrong. I can not deal with so much judging as it is too much like my field of study (zzzzz) and the blog should be different. I will come back when you guys have let this go, in the mean time, am going to lurk and read only.
Am not sure about the Hotel California, but the blog reminds me of going down the rabbit hole in "Alice In Wonderland". But that's just me. Anyone else coming to Womad or the following Sat nite, and need more info feel free to contact me . If you spend a stamp doing so, and go to one of the Adelaide things I will buy u some drinks of course. Now I get to use the well loved' "I have no more stamps" phrase : )))
SSC : )))))))))))
Posted by: slightsynchronicity at March 6, 2008 11:14 AM
virgil @ 9.34am...
"If this person continues to try and mould this blog to fit his perception of what it should be, I suspect many others will leave"
... you may well be right, Virgil, but not me!
It is clearly unjust to use insults to denigrate those we disagree with, & I'm a firm believer in supporting a positive & happy situation over a negative & disruptive one.
I'll continue to promote the former, & query the latter....
Posted by: decoratress at March 6, 2008 11:00 AM
What sort of woman are you looking for Marcus? Obviously not a girly girl...
A high IQ, no-nonsense, atheist lover who shows her mettle (& secondary sexual features.. breast, hip, groin etc..) in her profile?
That is absolutely your prerogative, no doubt about that... but you do seem to have an inordinate amount of disdain for the 'girlies'.. any particular reason for this?
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 10:14 PM
Maybe I will ask among my acquaintences (probably not my friends) at uni. The "groin" stipulation concerns me, but 5000 kisses later and Marcus is still happy with his methods. As I have mentioned before I have quite a few single male and female non RSVP friends. And we have that 6 degree of separation effect don't we. If I can think of anyone suitable Marcus for you, I will advise they look at your profile.
Virgil and/or OG can one of you spend a stamp and resolve this on the wunnerful RSVP IM chat function, by email or on the phone? This is online and you could get on better in real life
or have more satisfactory disagreements.
Due to time constraints, I have to blog less.
Due to the atmosphere on here, I feel like coming here much less.
The entire time I have been on this blog there have been detractors, its not the detractors that bother me, but a personal argument should go off the blog. Whoever started it should spend a stamp to resolve it privately. You guys have not met. On this whole blog I have met virgil and hope to meet SA bloggers soon, others at Womadelaide and more interstate bloggers eventually when time and money permit.
There has been stirring and nasty comments, I have had some directed at me, and often bite back. Sometimes its enjoyable to have a silly nasty blog fight with someone you don't know. Am a law student - its what we do. But when it gets personal and nasty, that is not on. However the posts that offend can be skimmed over. Easily skimmed over. Do I ignore negative, nasty, provoking comments, not usually as I want the poster to know it is not acceptable in society or in the world. People who insult when not having or planning to meet you are not worth worrying about.
Furthermore, 100s of other people read this blog so we could think of our larger audience. Google your user name OG and maybe also virgil. I did. And please do not post a reply directed to me as I may feel I have to answer and I would like to keep out of this. Let it go. Move on, lets help each other get to a state where we have something to offer a potential partner. Do you know that whatever you write appears in the sidebar thing? And what SBS documentary?
Willow, I feel that the blog has been very negative lately. Perhaps there is a lot of pain in some people. More jokes. I do understand. You will be missed but infrequent blogging is best for me and am planning to remove my RSVP profile or keep it hidden for a few months as it does not really serve my purposes. I purely wanted to use RSVP as a social networking tool, but there is too much bullshit and not enough honesty. The bloggers are generally fine and mostly decent people. I may feel more positive after womad.
RSVP pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase can you give each blogger a different colour for our posts, and a thumbnail pic next to the post??? PLEASE. Or a function whereby we could hide the posts we did not want to see (avoidance).
Hope you keep writing though Willow, somewhere as you have a nice style and something worth writing. Cheers.
slightsynch : )).
Posted by: slightsynchronicity at March 6, 2008 10:54 AM
"he cant be a man cause he doesnt think like me" from a song called "signs" from 1969.
I tried very hard not to bite last night, tried to ignore OG, but he kept niggling away.
His attempts to shut down the happy carefree banter that is part of a blog will maybe drive more people away.
I can understand that he is old and most likely lonely, searching for connection, but not in an inclusive way like timewarp does, but in a way that seeks to control and change the nature of this place.
Timewarp fits in, and doesnt speak or act like a member of a generation whose time has passed, but is accepting of us.
If this person continues to try and mould this blog to fit his perception of what it should be, I suspect many others will leave.
Posted by: virgil at March 6, 2008 9:34 AM
I can see Willow's point in leaving.
We come to this place, open ourselves, feel we are in a safe environment, to be ourselves, to be happy joke and hopefully bring enjoyment to others.
If we do not feel safe, able to enjoy ourselves, have to be so careful of what we say, then what is the point?
Posted by: virgil at March 6, 2008 9:20 AM
Re the age thing - back to the topic - the youngest man that has propositioned me recently was in his twenties (not thru RSVP). I don't pupport to speak on behalf of all women, but yes istj, I admit it was an ego buzz that he still thought I was "hot" (his words), but the thought of being used for sex was not very flattering. Also something repusively pedophilic about the idea as well (even tho he was very "hot" himself!).
The last two men I have had relationships with have been my exact same age - some great conversations of growing up during the same times, life experiences etc - much better connection than with someone who was listening to BayCity Rollers while I was listening to Pink Floyd!
What is WnW confused about?
Posted by: riversong1 at March 6, 2008 9:04 AM
istj - I'm still confused .... very confused.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 6, 2008 8:50 AM
Good morning all. I openly admit that I don't thoroughly read every blog and tend to just skim the ones that don't overly interest me so I may have missed a few things yesterday, I don't know. I believe it is everyone's right to post what ever they like (so long as it is not rude to others) and it is might right to read it or not.
Now, having said this ... I really don't understand what all the fuss is about and why willow is leaving the blogs. OG was somewhat rude to him and many of us supported willow .... but beyond that? Come on willow, don't take one person's rude comments to heart so much ... instead see the comeraderie that many, many others are offering you and you are turning your back on. If several people had offended you or even if OG had gone on and on maybe there would be something to really take umberidge over but .... I didn't see it.
Willow, dust yourself off and regain your jovial, light-hearted and compassionate attitude and re-join us. Everyone, including your detractor, is entightled to their opinion but you or we don't have to agree and we didn't. Please don't make a mountain out of this relative molehill. I for one am completely with you about what really makes a man and it is a hard road .... but I think a very worthwhile one, even if you have to wait a long time to reap your rewards (not that it is ever done with rewards in mind).
If you were really pissed off then put that behind you ... I know you are the type of person capable of this. One of the marks of a true man (like you) is being able to rise above insults because he knows they aren't true.
Today is another day in our future.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 6, 2008 8:44 AM
Hi istj54. Yep - great all the different ages, life experiences and opinions. Perhaps a little more respect for differences among the general populace wouldn't go astray though - if everyone agreed with everything everyone said - it would be a pretty boring world! Viva la difference! (Long live the differences OG) and people's freedom to express them.
Posted by: riversong1 at March 6, 2008 8:35 AM
Another thought for this morning.......and on topic too....the definition of what a man is has changed over the past fifty years...some men are still confused about this...especially the late baby boomers...but this confusion and the desire of some men of a "certain" age to cling to past, outdated definitions clearly shows that age is not just a number...it's a fact:))...hope I am not being ageist again... but all the men who post here would likely have a different perception as they are quite different in age...also one gentleman uses it as a bit of a stick to control opinions and behaviours...eg"You can't be a real man if you think or act this way."...We have three generations of contributors on these blogs and it is great to get the differing views on life as it was and as it is.
Posted by: istj54 at March 6, 2008 8:04 AM
WnW...I saw your funny post and chuckled...it reminded me of my equanimiteeeeeeeeeeeee lecture....and I also thought that weta had popped in a very deliberate zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...maybe not.
Riversong...hi...and yes, many men, and women too, prefer younger and even think that they are attractive to them...but many don't and do appreciate what older women have to offer...I think it is all in the "nature" of the person if it becomes an "obsession"...it becomes a problem for them.
Posted by: istj54 at March 6, 2008 7:55 AM
Morning all,
just caught up with the night owls' postings. Maybe Willow wasn't in for most of last night because he really had a date and if he is serious about not returning it because of a better reason to fill in his evening hours.
Some well-known words "I'll be back".
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 6, 2008 7:44 AM
sorry Weta I missed your post at 00. 20, but if you have been following tonights blog I have been pretty busy defending the male Bastion. ( Welcome aboard again) Its late (very bloody late ) hopefully another wordsmith will join us later and we will catch up tomorrow I hope you use poetry or prose to keep the noble alive.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 3:12 AM
Decoratess, wished I could speak French so I could understand what you and riversong are talking about, but I did understand the English bits, thankyou
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 2:49 AM
Gee - what's happened with the blogs? Incredibly instant - no logging in 10 times - great!
Thanks for the compliment OG.
Posted by: riversong1 at March 6, 2008 1:53 AM
oui -c'est passe
Posted by: riversong1 at March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
riversong...
I didn't say "pretty lady" was an insult.
I said I found "hard for a pretty lady to understand I know" somewhat patronising...
Anyway, as it happens, the issue has now been agreeably sorted, n'est pas?
Posted by: decoratress at March 6, 2008 1:48 AM
Riversong1.
It is one of lifes injustices that are we as we are in time. That is one incredible Profile.
OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 1:46 AM
Thanks Decoratress - of course I remember a lot of names (and changed names!) in here as well :)
Posted by: riversong1 at March 6, 2008 1:44 AM
OG @ 1.34am...
Graciously said, graciously accepted.
Posted by: decoratress at March 6, 2008 1:43 AM
Hi riversong...
...nice to see you back!
I would have acknowledged your presence earlier, as a blogger I remember from way back, but have been a little busy querying attitudes & opinions this evening!
Posted by: decoratress at March 6, 2008 1:39 AM
Decoratoress, @ 1.03 am. I am jumping the que to answer you
Wether or not you think I am patronising. the ,pretty lady was honestly meant, also the credentials you presented in defence to a previous blog was noted with respect and admiration. There was never any disrespect intended. But if you understand the male mind you are indeed an unusual Lady/ believe me most of us males find it hard to comprehend the female thought process.
Respectfully. OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 1:34 AM
Thanks Oldergent - at least I'm visible to one!
Posted by: riversong1 at March 6, 2008 1:31 AM
Gee - am I missing something here? Is that a trick question - what is a man?? (repeated times 3?)
It's not his brains
nor his braun...
but that thing between his loins!
Anyone who doesn't know that maybe shouldn't be on a dating site?? ;)
Come on guys - lighten up!
Posted by: riversong1 at March 6, 2008 1:29 AM
decoratress 12:06. If only it was that simple, but there appear to be new rules about what is now acceptable for future posts.
I choose a life where the boundaries are set by myself and my children, not by others. Must I consider before every post whether my person will be subject to question.
As I stated in the pulled post my efforts required much work, I do not consider it unreasonable that I consider the personal cost when all factors are taken into account then elect to take a path free from what has taken place here. I shall invest the time in my family and loved ones and those from RSVP that have contacted me away from the blogs. I suspect many would choose similarly.
I also do not consider it reasonable that I be subjected to the type of commentary I have recently experienced when I am trying to broker peace during intemperate times and brighten the days of most.
If this was part of earning a living in my professional capacity then the cost could reluctantly be accounted for, but it is not.
I do very much appreciate the kind thoughts expressed by so many, but I must ask would you elect more of this given the choice.
When I awake each morning I choose to see a sun shining brightly and a world free of tempest, I choose to find a smile for each of my children that is not tainted by hurt, I do not always succeed but I do try. I cannot see how pursuing posts in the current environment is conducive to this.
Again, I ask that we all consider it time to leave this behind as I now intend to do. I respect the right of individuals to continue posting in the current environment without judgement as I ask you respect my right to find a happier and less judgemental place.
I shall continue to respect the hands of friendship offered away from the blogs by those who have chosen to do so. I will just do it in a less public forum.
PS Virgil, its time to let this go. The cycle needs to be broken and you my friend need to choose this path.
Posted by: willow1059 at March 6, 2008 1:28 AM
Riversong1
Welcome to the blogs, I have just had a quick glance at your profile, so all I can say is welcome from a wide and diverse range of off beat personalities, who should know better than to disagree with me. LOL
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 1:09 AM
OG @ 12.58...
"... hard for a pretty lady to understand I know"....
Don't be patronising.
Posted by: decoratress at March 6, 2008 1:03 AM
Decoratess @10.41.
Just another example of our male openmindedness and commaraderie hard for a pretty lady to understand I know. but if he does not like my comment he will come back breathing fire.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 12:58 AM
Hell no Decoratess@10. 14.
Your my dream ( plus 30 years) Marcus needs, a big top and a bigger bottom, to get his jollies, ( it takes all kinds thank goodness)
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 12:49 AM
I applaud & confirm that, indeed, weta has a marked proclivity for the unusual.. noice.. different.. words that make up our wonderful language!
His willingness & enthusiasm in addressing the americanisation (weta... with an S.... not a Z...!!) problem is second to none.
Posted by: decoratress at March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Wait you bloggers I am wadeing through the list, stand in one spot long enough, keep smiling and I will get to you.
Cheers OG.
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 12:40 AM
Virgil, @10.00
You may not or do not want to know this but I was the Secretary of the Shortland Branch ( foundation member) that worked my arse of to get the first Democrat candidate person ever elected in Australia in an election. There is enough information there to verify my statements, feel free to do so if you distrust me.
OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 6, 2008 12:36 AM
Hi there OG @ 10.26.....
.......those who know me here will no doubt confirm that I'm prone to using less commonly used words whenever I get a chance - I'm trying to do my bit to keep the english language alive -and halt the americanization of English...... - and I'm a narrative smartarse to boot.....
....anyhoo.... - apropos nomenclature, it's another word for a classification system
Posted by: weta at March 6, 2008 12:20 AM
The vote being, to date:
YES - 14 (but if you count all of Virgil's, 23)
NO - 0
Don't you dare go, Willow.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 6, 2008 12:12 AM
Willow.....
Far out..... if I'd received the support & encouragement given to you over the last few hours, I'd be moving past the negatives thrown at me! Surely the barbs of one or two malcontents aren't going to cause you to withdraw your obviously popular posts?
Posted by: decoratress at March 6, 2008 12:06 AM
Hi guys, thanks for the vote, very humbling.
It is time to let this go for the sake of all.
Sorry, the answer is no. The price to pay in bringing joy into the life of most is too high. Perhaps much later.
Please, I ask you all to move forward in the way you did before I came here. Be inclusive of all, by that I also mean inclusive of OG as well.
Posted by: willow1059 at March 5, 2008 11:54 PM
Bed becons .. goodnight all. Most unusual for me to be blogging at this hour ... maybe Linda has inspired me. Tolerance to all.
There is no road to peace ... peace is the road.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 11:44 PM
ninaschen ... lest we forget. I support peace and compassion. Long live the willow and all other compassionate omega men ... we need all the support we can get. Heaven knows we give enough.
Hello riversong .. how are you? I have missed something about you .... not sure what, but I've missed it.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 11:40 PM
Geez. Now I am getting caught up again in these damned blogs! Should be in bed. But I want to respond to laan2612. Well said! And I agree. May I suggest that you continue to contribute? Another perspective is always welcome!
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 11:40 PM
Nina @9.39.
Nigel/ Virgil / have to think about that, no problem about willow.
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 11:38 PM
what makes a man a man
is it brain, is it braun
is it the month that you were born
I just dont understand.
Hair 1969.
What is it OG?
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 11:37 PM
Oldergent, l didn't find your comments to be cruel, l thought you just voiced an opinion, something that we all like to do.....
Willow and Virgil replied their thoughts to you, as is their right...
Clearly your opinion was seen to be a bit heavyhanded, and it gathered momentum from there........
................................................................
There is my line in the sand......and will now walk away from it..........a very liberating feeling ...........
BTW Oldergent...Leadbelly....not sure whether to larf or not at that..........
I think that the censorship of not allowing us to see Underbelly is pathetic, especially considering the freely available viewings people have had and there have been loads l am told.
Do the crime do the time l say...................K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 5, 2008 11:36 PM
Nina, thank you for your kind words, they were very much appreciated. A friendly kiss to you :)
Re the voting, can I say that I believe that OG is entitled to have his say, and that sometimes people do need to re-evaluate themselves. However, sometimes it is more important to moderate our own behaviour.
WnW, I don't think this was a childish exercise - I am not a blogger, but I wanted Willow to know that I support him and that his wit and cheery good humour are appreciated. But it wasn't meant to be taken too seriously.
Love the blogs and enjoy what you all have to say...even when I don't agree.
Posted by: laan2612 at March 5, 2008 11:35 PM
Remembering, WnW, this is light-hearted.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 11:35 PM
Look, let's face it, I've had a bad night (long story) and had too much to drink but I support and love everyone. Everyone is wonderful in their own right even those who have hated or shunned me. i love everyone ... enough said, now I must sleep. OM. OM, OM ... pity RSVP removed that post so no one gets the joke. Maybe someone who saw it before it was removed can have small chuckle?
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 11:35 PM
So. Is that a YES or NO, WnW?
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 11:33 PM
Answer the question OG
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 11:31 PM
ninaschen - I have on many occasions today (unfortunately some were removed by the moderators) supported willow (and virgil) but I don't personally agree with the vote. I think all people deserve their right to post and not be attacked and I think it is well known that I support a tolerant and positive attitude. Willow is a good bloke and he should stand up for his rights (with our support) but what was said against hime was just a dismal attempt at smartarsedness (nice word?) and a man such as willow can easily rise above this crap.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 11:30 PM
And invisible as well!
Posted by: riversong1 at March 5, 2008 11:30 PM
I really need my bed, OG, but I need clarification. What do you mean by:
"Willow will be back with his usual eloquence to delight even me ( seeing the drivel a thing of the past) well tell me it is Willow".
Does this mean you are taking it upon yourself to dictate to Willow what he may, or may not say? Surely not!
This is a free country, last time I checked, and we may speak for ourselves. No wonder people leave here (the blogs) in droves.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 11:29 PM
As this is the season of Lent, with Easter soon to follow, my thoughts go to easter's passed (that ones for you Kareena).
On Maundy Thursday, there is washing the feet of someone, probably my most challenging time in the Christian year, followed by a meal in the church hall, followed by the vigil, which is sitting in the darkened church, which has been stripped of all movable objects, save for a cross with a spotlight shining on it.
It can be a truly moving experience to be there by ones self at say 2am, thinking about events in my life, what they mean, and how important they really are in the scheme of things.
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 11:29 PM
Nina @9.33 Yes
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 11:26 PM
Gee - feel like a gatecrasher! No-one commenting on the topic - just bantering on among themselves!
Posted by: riversong1 at March 5, 2008 11:24 PM
C'mon Virg. @9.22
give us men a break.
OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 11:22 PM
hermanhesse - if you feel "old" - how do you think fit, healthy, attractive women a few years younger than you feel, to see guys like you looking for women 13 years younger??
Posted by: riversong1 at March 5, 2008 11:21 PM
Hang on everyone, give me a chance to catch up with the posts. I have just replied to nina @ 9.14pm I would need a time worm machine to get there quicker.
OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 11:18 PM
Well said, AmberLight.
And to those others, apart from WnW, who think my little survey is 'childish', it is meant to be light-hearted, though genuine.
WnW, you have been offered endless support by many bloggers, both privately and on here, me included. Reciprocate, please.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 11:16 PM
Nina.
The first part of you post does not do justice to your past posts. it is your choice wether you respect me. I do not know you well enough to make the same judgement. Rest assured lady, Willow will be back with his usual eloquence to delight even me ( seeing the drivel a thing of the past). well tell me it is Willow.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 11:11 PM
Is this an attempt to become mainstream, OG, relevant even?
I forgave you, then Willow left.
I certaily know if there was a choice between one who brings happiness to the lives of others through these bloggs, and one who gets their jollies by insulting good people, I know the rest of the bloggers have made their choice.
It doesnt have to be a choice though, does it?
You could be welcome here, respected because you are old if that was your wish, but you have lost that respect because you choose to be nasty.
I dont need you nasty comments to re-evaluate my life, by any standard it is a success.
However, when I asked you what makes a man, you answered Me. This response did not tell me why you consider yourself a man.
As this is the third time I have asked you this question, why havent you answered.
My previous quote from Hair, still is relevant,
What makes a man, a man
Is it brain, is it braun,
I just dont understand.
Please tell us OG, on what scale of measurable criteria, do you judge yourself a man?
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 11:10 PM
Age is NOT "just a number" - it is maturity, wisdom, and life experience.
Yes, a lot of men DO have an obsession for younger women - guess they may not yet be ready for the "maturity and wisdom" thing - perhaps still some unresolved juevenile delinquency or second childhood issues left to work through :)
Posted by: riversong1 at March 5, 2008 11:04 PM
WnW,@9.05.
One of the good posts, could I add how he treats himself, very thoughtful and insightful.
OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 10:58 PM
ps I do not intentionally set out to be cruel but some people need it to re-evaluate themselves.
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 6:03 PM
I wouldn't necessarily define your comments about and to Virgil and Willow OG as being cruel, (they are after all grown uip men who like all of us have probably experienced similar in their past when they were much less equipped to handle it) however your comments were rude, arrogant, self-important and unnecessary.
Why Willow and Virgil should even care what you think of them surprises me, after all, it wasn't as if anyone on here actually asked you to give your opinion of their manhood, philosophy, sense of humour or anything else!
Yes what we ALL write on here is at times juvenile, ridiculous and probably incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't been following what is going on; but hey isn't about having fun?
Is anyone person's opinion more important than the next person's?
Shouldn't we all be encouraging each other as we all search for (hopefully) the same thing; someone who will care for us as we do for them?
For goodnes sake OG, if you want to find someone "special" as we all do, then think about what you say and how you come across when you say it.
A kind, caring woman is not going to be impressed by a man who makes comments that sound angry and sour especially when the people you directed them at were not doing you any harm!
How would you react if a future partner just happened to 'annoy' you; you must remember the old saying" familiarity breeds contempt", any person who has been through a bad marriage would be all too aware of that truism!
"ps I do not intentionally set out to be cruel but some people need it to re-evaluate themselves."
Sometimes we all need to "re-evaluate" ourselves and our attitude to others!
And Willow.....yes
Posted by: amberlight58 at March 5, 2008 10:57 PM
Lighten up, Michael.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 10:51 PM
Good for you, laan2612, for voting. Great profile and photos, by the way. Good luck with your search, you shouldn't have many problems!
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 10:47 PM
Bourbon ... soothes the aches and pains ... yeah! Good night voters.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 10:46 PM
I think willow is OK but as to voting ... WTF? Come on people ... do we want this to be an adult blogging site or one suitable for OG's 13 YO grandaughter? I am support of willow's right to his opinion but this borders on childish ... or did I miss something while watching SpicksnSpecks?
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 10:44 PM
Yes yes yes !!!
Posted by: jenjen57 at March 5, 2008 10:43 PM
oldergent @ 10.19pm...
"Marcus @8.15.
Back to male sanity, thank goodness.
Cheers OG"
and @ 10.26pm...
"..(love anyone that can stick it up Marcus)"
WTF indeed!
I'm inclined to say "make your mind up, OG...."
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 10:41 PM
I'm told to vote YES.... so YES!!!!!!!
Posted by: victoriadownunder at March 5, 2008 10:31 PM
Seems so, Lynath. Or the blogs version, at least.
The count thus far:
YES - 9
NO - 0
In hindsight, I should have given a closing time. Midnight tomorrow, I think. I'm off to bed. I am confident Willow will be ovewhelmingly voted in.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 10:28 PM
Yes
Posted by: laan2612 at March 5, 2008 10:27 PM
Has Big Brother started again?
Posted by: thelynathdiary at March 5, 2008 10:18 PM
yes he visited here this afternoon
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 10:26 PM
Weta.
Mate you left me, want to come back with a simpler us poor folk can understand.( love anyone that can stick it up Marcus)
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 10:26 PM
wishful...
No... you can just sew some sequins on your jeans & stick a flower in your hair!
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 10:22 PM
Marcus @8.15.
Back to male sanity, thank goodness.
Cheers OG
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 10:19 PM
Has Big Brother started again?
Posted by: thelynathdiary at March 5, 2008 10:18 PM
What sort of woman are you looking for Marcus? Obviously not a girly girl...
A high IQ, no-nonsense, atheist lover who shows her mettle (& secondary sexual features.. breast, hip, groin etc..) in her profile?
That is absolutely your prerogative, no doubt about that... but you do seem to have an inordinate amount of disdain for the 'girlies'.. any particular reason for this?
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 10:14 PM
Kaz - say yes, but only if he does!
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 10:14 PM
K.
I have the book, Lead Belly, want me to send it, the Tv follows it very closely, want me to send it.
Og
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 10:12 PM
Disappear for an hour to make a cuppa for a friend who dropped in and I nearly missed the voting.
Yes to Willow as well. And yes to anyone who wants to blog.
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 5, 2008 10:09 PM
...Yes...
Posted by: weta at March 5, 2008 10:09 PM
Come on VDU...read faster!!!!
Hey...rarely am I called a "girly girl", not sure I like it - but its a bit of a novelty. Does this mean I'll actually have to buy a dress?
Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 5, 2008 10:09 PM
Kaz...no chance I will be on the jury...it is really, reallly good:))
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 10:07 PM
And your vote, OlderGent? Drum-roll......
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 10:06 PM
...no, no, no, no, no...OG...all we did was fall asleep...all I remember is sitting down under the tree and then waking up the next morning...still fully clothed...we both fell asleep under the tree...tree's still there but he is not.
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 10:05 PM
VDU, you missed a few as the censors were out this afternoon.
Marcus, your take no prisoners attitude changed a but this evening, with your admission you went home to the wrong house once, very good to see.
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 10:04 PM
istj, lm going to be a purist and wait until it is legally allowed to be viewed in Victoria...my son has seen the first three eps and tells me it will be worth waiting for.........
And l have managed to avoid any discussion of Underbelly whatsoever....
My willpower is so strong at the moment........................K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 5, 2008 10:03 PM
istj,
very much the same experience, but on a very beautiful moonlit night at Lake Mc Quarie at Warners Bay, her comment was that "I did not think it would be that good" My comment was that I knew you would. But fortunately we did not go to sleep, ( would have liked to be there for the grand awakening) LOL
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 10:01 PM
Marcus
Your humour and wit is appreciated WTF well said
you keep us honest
Maybe you are an Australian Democrat
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 10:00 PM
Methinks Marcus may be like Jim Trott in Vicar of Dibly....no, no, no, no.......YES!
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 10:00 PM
Marcus...I would give the same answer if you chose to ask the same of OG...though I agree that he has been unnecessarily mean...this is a public blog and all the public are free to speak...it's just a much nicer place to be if we treat each other with mutual respect....signed, "The girliest girl of them all..."
Kaz, I've seen up to episode ten...it's very good.
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 9:57 PM
A new topic and 153 comments to wade through before I get up to speed - sheesh!!!
Posted by: victoriadownunder at March 5, 2008 9:55 PM
One of my posts earlier at about 6 oclock this evening has also been removed, and dunno why as it was actually fairly inane and innocuous. Others l have left have been far more worthy of censorship but still around.......
Oh and yes willow, hang around...........K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 5, 2008 9:51 PM
Your vote doesn't count Marcus, unless you say YES or NO. Hmmm. Wonder what it will be?
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 9:48 PM
I'd have to say that if a bloke wants to pick up his ball and go home from the ground because he got a gentle metaphorical hip and shoulder, well let him.
Appearing to be soft and vulnerable or acting on a misguided high principle or even cynically using it as a passive attack on OG might go down with the girly fan club, but it is hardly masculinity defined. Even for an Omega man.
Virgil. Yes yes yes... WTF?
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 9:46 PM
Yes!
Oh, is funny, looks like we are all agreeing to the question in this blog. lol.
Jen
Posted by: jenniferhi at March 5, 2008 9:45 PM
That'd be a definite YES from me too Nina....
Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 5, 2008 9:45 PM
YES.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 9:40 PM
Oops! Sorry 'Nigel'! I meant Virgil! Forgive me, I'm getting old.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 9:39 PM
yes,yes,yesyes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 9:39 PM
YES
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 9:38 PM
I was thinking the same thing, Nigel.
Everyone who wants Willow to stay (and that goes for the lurkers who only read the blogs), post one word: 'YES'.
Everyone who wants him to leave post 'NO'.
Go on, do it!
And Willow, I hope you will respect the wishes of the masses.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 9:33 PM
Ninashen...my daughter came out with the exact same thing at about 13 too.....amazing - I'd not have thought to question why i had to respect as a child....ah well..times are a-changing....
Maybe Willow and Virgil are being targeted because they are "popular" in terms of entertaining and interesting drivel/blogs...tall poppy syndrome? Jealousy - who knows....but I wish it'd stop
Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 5, 2008 9:30 PM
I know I am only new to the blogging side of this site but Willow I certainly have enjoyed your postings. Please don't leave the site.
Geez, imagine if this was an open chat line. That sure would be fun. lol.
Ninachen - My daughter said exactly the same thing. And she and your daughter are right. Kids certainly do need to be respected.
Jen
Posted by: jenniferhi at March 5, 2008 9:29 PM
Maybe we can have a petition to get Willow back.
I feel a great sadness that we will lose one who has brought so much joy to many people here, myself included.
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 9:25 PM
Broken Hill, being not an overly large town, has a main street called Argent St, with little else to do of an evening, we used to drive our cars, around and around the main street, many people would park their cars, walking up the street, stopping in the milk bars to have a milk shake, and a hamburger.
These were days better than we might imagine now, where we had no Hungry Jacks, no KFC and no subway.
We didn't feel that alcohol was always necessary to fuel our courage to speak to the opposite sex.
I see some things never change as I watch the cars cruise Anzac Highway, turn into Colley Terrace and make their way slowly along Jetty road.
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 9:22 PM
OG - Following on from the way I was brought up, I tried to instill in my children respectfulness of their elders. Especially of those as 'elder' as you. From a very young age my daughter, who has always been a free-thinking spirit, bucked at this and declared that people would need to earn her respect, not expect it, no matter what their age. She was right and she taught me a lot.
I no longer respect you, OG.
Willow - please don't leave the blogs just because of one crotchety old man. There are many here who respect you, much more than we do him.
Posted by: ninaschen at March 5, 2008 9:14 PM
What makes a man a man? Maybe the way he treats a woman.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 9:05 PM
"What do you think is a man OG" ME?????
Now go back to reading Wind in the willows, that lovely story about Poo Bear while listening to the Hollies singing He ain't heavy he's my brother.
OG.
ps I do not intentionally set out to be cruel but some people need it to re-evaluate themselves.
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 6:03 PM
ahhh What makes a man a man?
"is it brain, is it braun, is th the month you were born, I just dont understand, courtesy of "Hair"
No defining characteristics? no measurable criteria? no judgement of your peers? You were unable to answer the question OG
I suspect your attacks were due to the fact that due to your advanced age, you probably feel marginalised and largely irrelevant in this company, and therefore feel the need to reach out and attack two of the bloggers in this place you saw as easy targets.
Very much as Marcus has said, two who by your reasoning, were unlikely to bite back
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 8:57 PM
see Marcus,
you're human too with adolescent blunders to laugh about later.I'm trying to finish writing my school program and need a bit of brevity in between the word documents.
So far our anecdotes seem to be about places we slept in that we shouldn't have slept in.
Did any of you drive through a very small town called 'The Rock' 30 odd years ago and notice that the town was lacking in its name sign. Funny thing- that was on the scavenger hunt list at college. Can't imagine where it got too!
A few more takers please-Lynath will return soon to check out whether anyone took up her challenge.
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 5, 2008 8:55 PM
Hi Marcus......
......"I'm not an Alpha; that characterisation system falls a bit short of covering the bases....."
....hmmm......
.......you do use that nomenclature to describe the behaviour of other males here....
..hmmm......
Posted by: weta at March 5, 2008 8:54 PM
Ah Underbelly...us poor Victorians are not allowed to watch it.....bummer......
Censorship is alive, well and kicking in the Place To Be...............K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 5, 2008 8:42 PM
OK Blueeyes
Back in Ararat during my mispent youth the GF and I left the waning house party at the friends over the road to go smoke a joint and have a cuddle. As was my habit I'd had a few drinks. GF was curfewed and left and I wandered back and let myself in through the back door to crash . Was woken dry mouthed and annoyed some time later by shoulder shaking and general kerfuffle and questioning.
I'd let myself into the wrong neighbours house next door and was asleep on their couch.
Cheers Marquis
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 8:36 PM
"..and feel quite at liberty to express myself without worrying about PC or others hangups" ..
hahahaHAHAHAHA...... MARCUS!!!!
What a wonderful way of excusing offensive comments!
Heh.. you insult people & if they are offended it's their hangup?
I admire your creativity.
A little.
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 8:32 PM
Marcus,
Back on the right side of the fence at last, now I am going to watch underbelly, back later to answer the critiques.
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 8:25 PM
'Crudity' is now the new C word is it OG?
Crikey cobber, I enjoy using the language and feel quite at liberty to express myself without worrying about PC or others hangups.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 8:20 PM
OG.
I didn't see any cruelty. The word is subjective and likely to be invoked by a women.
You are entitled to your take and robust blokiness, and irrascibility.
This is a blog not a bloody mutual admiration society and is peopled by all sorts with no common denominator.
Cheers MS
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 8:15 PM
oldergent...
I do not consider amputating a limb to be in the same category of 'cruel' as your 'blunt' comments... which you yourself have labelled cruel.
The limb needs to be removed for the man to live. This is not cruel, it is painful. There is a difference...
There is absolutely no 'need' for you to insult a person on these blogs in order to cause them to 're-evaluate themselves'...
...& that would be... re-evaluate themselves according to...
... your opinion?
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 8:14 PM
Marcus @ 6.42
To be correct I did expect to see the moderator in action well before yesterday, particularly in light of some of your sprays. I do at least try to keep crudity out of mine. Now tell me bloggers have you received your Questionaries from them ?
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 8:10 PM
Decoratress.
I'm not an Alpha; that characterisation system falls a bit short of covering the bases
I have a reasonably Avoidant personality- I'm self energising and introverted. I form relationships with people to dominate them ;-). I'm risk taking and sometimes exciting and sometimes arrogant.
If you were male and interested in hierarchical relationships rather than the egalitarian, suggestion and validation ones women adopt I think you would be Alpha; as you probably are in certain circumstances.
Haha.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 8:07 PM
Decoratess.@6.42
Seems like you are next up."you" a typo as I was just saying off line I am developing a soft "R" finger, however thank you for being gracious enough to point it out. "To be cruel to be kind" Those words were used by Nelsons surgeons on the ships of the fleet before amputating limbs to give men the chance of life to return to their wives ( also only with a belly full of rum to deaden the pain) your view as a woman about having to be cruel to be kind, is not a mans. ever.
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 8:03 PM
fartsandsnorts (Marcus)...
... and I'm guessing you consider yourself an Alpha male?
decoratress/dictator/directoryassistance/whatever you dream up to call me....
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 7:37 PM
Come on guys-we only have to midnight when the fairy princess closes up for repairs. Let's liven it up here with some interesting,funny or maybe embarrassing anecdotes of our youth.
Here's another one of mine- my girlfriends (same ones that I went to Pentridge and Sunbury with-read earlier blogs) thought they would get me into trouble with my parents. For my 20th birthday they signed me up for regular Venus newspaper deliveries but put the mail address as my parent's address. Had some explaining to do about that one.
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 5, 2008 7:36 PM
....there may have been, Blueeyes, but it was so long ago:))...who's next?
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 7:32 PM
Any onlookers to your nap place IST. I can only assume that the noisy birds that woke you had nothing to do with the possible hangover.
That's one taker to the challenge.
Question? Was there a repeat date?
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 5, 2008 7:29 PM
Willow, despite your protestations, some of your behaviour could be viewed as sophist passive aggressive or at least exacerbating.
This qualifies you as a protagonist.
Haha.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 7:24 PM
PS: That's Grahame's Willows I was talking about - not our singular (and singularly-talented) Willow.
He's reassuringly warm and fuzzy - better even than Pooh. Especially vintage pooh that's recently gone off.
Posted by: timewarp1 at March 5, 2008 7:21 PM
Hmm.
I've re read Willows' manhood mission statement and had a look at Ogregents earlier attack. I can see why Willow is popular with the girly girls here. He has mentioned some aspects of manhood that other men accept as a given and feel no need to announce. He is not a man's man though, but this will not worry him.
He is probably the third of the Greek alphabet types; Omega. Happy to go with the flow, not particularly competitive and happy to emote and relate.This makes him attractive to some women.
Ogregent (OG) is probably a Beta male.
Competitive and willing to challenge the dominant Alpha but rarely succesfully.
Advancing years and attendant realisation of things eluding him has probably made him jealous of Willows' virtual sexual success here. I doubt OG would have made the same attack on an Alpha male. The risk of a biffing would have been to great.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 7:16 PM
Where do I begin to tell the stories of how stupid I have been....what about the night I had finally landed the man of my dreams...we went back to his place... and had a few more drinks...when I suggested a walk in the moonlight, so romantic...we arrived at a lovely small local park abounded by beautiful trees. I said that I needed to sit under one to rest..........................we woke up in the morning to the noisy...make that very noisy...footsteps of the local commuters hurrying to their trains:))
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 7:16 PM
For my part, I am willing to forgive OG for his comments of the other night, in the Christian spirit of forgiveness, and to restore harmony here.
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 7:14 PM
I am struggling to reconcile the thought that people need to be dealt with in a cruel manner to get them to re-evaluate themselves. Isn't that just an adult version of bullying - the very thing we, as teachers, spend days upon days trying to eradicate from the classroom and playground???
Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 5, 2008 7:14 PM
Pooh in the Willows to you all.
I think some people have been saying go read the children's book, but actually have been thinking about Disney movies.
IMHM a bloke called Kenneth Grahame wrote a PG book around 90 years ago for young teens called "Wind in the Willows", about a bonzer adult-male, completely anthropomorphic water rat with "Shire" values, similar to those of the approximately contemporaneous Frodo Baggins from the Rings.
He was simply called Rat, and had 2 friends - a crusty old badger (called Badger) with a propensity to solve all problems (such as trespassing stoats and ferrets) with a bit of biff and/or walking-stick-to-bonce - and last but most entertaining - an extravagant novomanic BoyToy-addicted wastrel toad, called Mr Toad.
In another completely separate fantasy-land, a prominent adults' playright called ****** (I forget) Milne followed on his PG-rated play ("Peter Pan and Wendy"?) with a couple of G-rated preschool-to-lower-primary-level books of prose and verse, originally written for his son Christopher Robin, of pre-school age for "Winnie the Pooh", until "Now we are Six."
These were inhabited by ChrisRob's stuffed toys come to life, including the before-mentioned and psych-analysed Pooh et al.
We must suggest to Pixar to look whether they are good enough at genre-bending to meld the two authors' work, but I personally think IMHO, Willows' world is a better fit for Tolkein than Milne.
Posted by: timewarp1 at March 5, 2008 7:13 PM
Willow has enhanced the functionality of the willow RSVPi profile matching tool powered by Intel to undertake multi variant analysis of potential partner’s occupations.
Today I present the first findings derived from the tool which is still in the beta stage of testing. Please note beta testing does not involve the harming of any animals during testing, the only things actually beaten are inanimate. Also Beta testing should not be confused with Harvard Alpha males or Gamma Rays. Come to think of it I do not know any Rays with the name of Gamma as a prefix. But I do know a man by the name of Sting, perhaps his middle name is Ray. I do work with a man called Ray so I shall ask him if any of these are relatives of his. Of course, we all know of a very famous sunglass manufacturer Mr Ray Ban, it is my understanding with a surname of Ban he is from Asia.
The first occupation to be tested is midwife (Mid-Wife).
I must admit this choice of career does perplex me. Graduates are clearly intelligent, thoughtful and philosophical, students of human behaviour and the cosmos. I ask myself why a person would choose this career. Unable to determine a satisfactory answer upon completion of my early investigations, I decide to break down the title into its components mid and wife.
It is here I discover an aspect to personality previously hidden from the persona evident in RSVP profiles. The word mid meaning central or in between combined with the word wife meaning legal partner, confidant, and lover, bearer of children and humanities future.
What inner force drives a midwife so they feel it necessary to insert (mid) themself between a man and wife at perhaps the most important time in their lives. Are they seeking to shield the man from seeing the woman he loves whom is in obvious distress, or is there a more malicious intent to deprive the woman of the reassurance of her partner’s presence, perhaps a form of ill conceived envy.
Of course, as is observed with many words of the English language the title midwife does have an alternative meaning. Again this meaning may be discerned by separating midwife into its components mid and wife.
Mid being interpreted literally as central or in between, wife can be taken more flexibly as wife or long term partner. In this interpretation a midwife would have been the man’s partner before his current partner experiencing labour but after his earlier partner. How the hand of coincidence should bestow them with such a fate may never be known, however it is clear to see that all midwife’s keep the memories of former relationships close at hand. They have attained a state of clear linear temporal alignment, a form of relationship nirvana that flows with the web of time and space.
Yes, a midwife is an extraordinary person. Far more complex than any ordinary person, it would appear they have chosen to apply their hands of healing to assist the instrument of human survival and love, childbirth.
Forthwith I shall refine my searches to identify all females from the Health Industry. In future, I shall not restrict the searches to unmarried women since a midwife appears to hold marital status in little regard. Indeed, a relationship with a midwife holds the alluring prospect of unconstrained love with a highly compassionate woman that transcends the traditional boundaries associated with living in western society.
On this note, I leave you for at least a little while, perhaps longer than shorter in order to provide a circuit breaker to recent events. May all bloggers choose to put finger to keyboard in a manner befitting of civilised society. I wish all success in their search for a partner, these good wishes also extend to the very few I have crossed paths with in RSVP blogsville.
Until later, be happy, healthy and hopefully not single from Willow.
Posted by: willow1059 at March 5, 2008 7:11 PM
Willow, don't let your branches bend so low that you feel a need to uproot and run.If everyone thought and acted the same then there would be no need for discussion on anything from anyone.And what a boring world this would be.
I believe you have gone off to play another game tonight-hopefully with success.Adn then I'm sure you'll be back to play here.
I wish you enough!
Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 5, 2008 7:10 PM
...yes, Decoratress, as an artist you need free reign...but your illustrations must at least follow the plot...and let's hope that Willow's stories are not soon over...I was looking forward to an Easter Banquet...with an egg hunt in there somewhere...and costumes and fancy cocktails...mayne a bonnet parade...start sketching:))
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 7:10 PM
Well, blueeyes and Lynath, I considered what from my youth I would have considered "daring" to add here - and realised it really wasn't suitable to share as it would sully my reputation way, way too much! So, sorry, nothing to add that wasn't in fact more than daring! (to be honest, it was totally stupid and I think I got lucky that things worked out okay in the end...)
I loved the wishing someone "enough" piece, Willow.
Posted by: malsie at March 5, 2008 7:09 PM
Actually Marcus, I don't consider myself a protagonist. I exercised my right of reply last night, a single reply and intend to leave it at that.
I regret you will need to find another person to be sarcastic towards, as my last post is coming soon. If you feel the need, now is an excellent time to do so.
Posted by: willow1059 at March 5, 2008 7:01 PM
Maybe Marcus your comments were too sensible and Karina does not see this as your role on the blogs? If you stay in character your posts may stand a better chance of not being pulled.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 7:01 PM
Marcus - I thought your comments were well thought out and perceptive and replied so ... but my comment was also pulled. It's important to understand if we are alpha, beta or omega and try to act accordingly.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 6:59 PM
Oh, & btw, istj54...
I'd be delighted to illustrate Willow's book... do I get free rein with style? May I use caricatures?
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 6:55 PM
Wow, even two of my comments were censored ... and one of them was even quite funny .... damn!
"They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life to forget them." Thanks willow .... not sure I needed to be reminded of that.
Posted by: woodnwine at March 5, 2008 6:55 PM
Hmm.
First time I have seen the moderator in action here. It would have been polite if it had made some comment for the reasons behind the pull.
I wrote a non defamatory short piece summing up the protagonists, Willow and Oldergent, in terms of the Alpha, Beta, Omega theme.
I was trying to be objective, and if anything in my best behaved way, was somewhat sarcastic towards W; and empathising with OG. Perhaps OG's response which I did not see contained something?
I cannot imagine Karina was responsible: her comprehension skills probably do not extend to even understanding her own literary constructs. If someone locally is moderating or if it is Karina I would appreciate being given a reason.
Cheers Marcus
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 5, 2008 6:52 PM
Willow...that was a real laugh out loud...Weren't we all brought up not to tell porkies...as well as not to hang outside seven-eleven trolling for ciggies and booze...actually that is starting to sound attractive to me...and at my valuable, or valued age, I wonder what the punters...I mean customers would think...maybe age "does" matter...or it mat get me off this site...what do you think? No porkies:))
Posted by: istj54 at March 5, 2008 6:42 PM
oldergent @ 6.03pm...
"No but it gives me a bloody sight more experience that you (sic), and an ability to judge people better."
I suggest that experience, per se, does not equate with being a better judge of people. It would depend, entirely, on what your individual experiences have been, how much you have learned from them, & your level of perception.
Age alone does not bestow wisdom, I can assure you.
If it did, we would never have young achievers or elderly idiots.. hahaha.. & I'm sure you realise there are both...
"ps I do not intentionally set out to be cruel but some people need it to re-evaluate themselves."
Nobody, oldergent... that's NOBODY...
"needs" cruelty.
Ever.
Posted by: decoratress at March 5, 2008 6:42 PM
Willow has a story for you which was passed to me by a friend here on the blogs whose privacy I will protect by not naming, I say thankyou. It does a far better job of reflecting my thoughts than anything I can write.
I ask all visitors to the blogs to consider the message contained within it then seek to contribute to the well being of all those you associate with by holding these wishes within your heart.
Here it is:
Recently I overheard a mother and daughter in their last moments together at the airport. They had announced the departure. Standing near the security gate, they hugged and the mother said, "I love you and I wish you enough".
The daughter replied, "Mom, our life together has been more than enough. Your love is all I ever needed. I wish you enough, too, Mom". They kissed and the daughter left. The mother walked over to the window where I was seated.
Standing there I could see she wanted and needed to cry. I tried not to intrude on her privacy but she welcomed me in by asking, “Did you ever say good-bye to someone knowing it would be forever?". "Yes, I have," I replied. "Forgive me for asking, but why is this a forever good-bye?"
"I am old and she lives so far away. I have challenges ahead and the reality is - the next trip back will be for my funeral," she said. "When you were saying good-bye, I heard you say, 'I wish you enough'.
“May I ask what that means", she began to smile. "That's a wish that has been handed down from other generations. My parents used to say it to everyone".
She paused a moment and looked up as if trying to remember it in detail and she smiled even more. "When we said, 'I wish you enough', we wanted the other person to have a life filled with just enough good things to sustain them".
Then turning toward me, she shared the following as if she were reciting it from memory.
I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright.
I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more.
I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive.
I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger.
I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.
I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.
I wish you enough hellos to get you through the final good-bye.
Then she began to cry and walked away.
They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life to forget them.
Send this to the people you will never forget and remember to send it back to the person who sent it to you. If you don't send it to anyone it may mean that you are in such a hurry that you have forgotten your friends.
TAKE TIME TO LIVE.....
To all my friends and loved ones,
I WISH YOU ENOUGH
Posted by: willow1059 at March 5, 2008 6:38 PM
NEXT PLEASE
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 6:03 PM
(and virgil),
pretty obvious you did not get that one, I gave it, got it back, from willow and gave it and got it back from him, I thought him more of a man in the private exchange. As to you, now you feel confident enought with all the ego stoking you have received in the past day or so, to enter the fray, I threw syncopant at marcus to sting, to you I have thought it from the first posts I read of yours (glad to see you got it right the second time around) As to "we have all got here and being better than us" No but it gives me a bloody sight more experience that you, and an ability to judge people better.
"How many beers can a man drink and remain standing", Buggered if I know I usually lose count.
Would a real man let his granddaughter sit in on an adult dating site. Her response " do adults really carry on like this Granddad"
Do I let her watch other adult sites, "probably not the ones you may watch"
As I said in my responce I will not duck any question put to me by my family regardless of gender or age, they are at least entitled to an honest answer
Virgil if you have done all that in your lifetime and you still don't know what a real man is, what in the hell are you asking me for.
Willow, gave his definition of a man and what he is
"What do you think is a man OG" ME
Now go back to reading Wind in the willows, that lovely story about Poo Bear while listening to the Hollies singing He ain't heavy he's my brother.
OG.
ps I do not intentionally set out to be cruel but some people need it to re-evaluate themselves.
Posted by: oldergent at March 5, 2008 6:03 PM
Willow here, today is a very special day in willows life. It is the first anniversary of my best friends’ bucks party. He is a wonderful man, somewhat obese as are nearly all his friends and family, I shall call him Ted.
Ted asked me to organise his bucks party and to make a speech but not to tell any porkies. I undertook this task diligently as I am confident you would expect me to do so. I also kept a promise I made to him to keep who was attending secret since he wanted to be surprised on the evening.
He gave me a list of nearly 80 names he would like to invite. I arranged in the preceding weeks to meet all of his dearest individually in order to make an objective assessment about their current weight and body mass index (a subject discussed in the blogs a few days ago). To my dismay all except myself were very overweight.
In the week leading up to night I worked feverishly to finalise my speech for this most important event.
On 5 March 2007 the event was held, I felt so sorry for Ted because only two people attended, Ted and myself. He was so dejected about the reason for this, I did not tell him the reason was that no-one was invited other than I because everyone he knew was overweight, he would have been most concerned to hear this news.
On the evening I gave him a most heartfelt speech to comfort him. I suggested he speak to his friends and relatives with a view to supporting them to lose weight before the wedding, because as best man I felt it inappropriate if I could not give a speech on the day due to the restriction about telling porkies.
For some reason we have grown apart since this evening, despite numerous calls to his mobile I am still weighting for a response. It would appear the scales of justice have spoken.
Posted by: willow1059 at March 5, 2008 6:02 PM
Actually Virgil, have just finished work to see these hours and all the posts from earlier than 4 March 12:23 are gone.
To be honest I would rather not know what was in the missing hours from this afternoon.
To my relief, I may add the words directed at us from the preceeding days are also gone, for the words are best left lost in the ether for perpetuity.
I think it is time to leave this behind, what say you?
Posted by: willow1059 at March 5, 2008 5:56 PM
does anyone notice the gap of e hours between Timewarp's post of 2.18 and the blueeyes post of 5.23?
three hours have been censored from the bloggs, another particularly offensive piece from OG, a piece from Marcus supporting willow and myself and some other bits I havent read.
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 5:33 PM
OG
Your post below shows you still dont get it.
What you did was a completely unprovoked attack on Willow and myself for no good reason.
When Marcus shoed his appreciation for an exceptionally well written piece from Willow, you accuse him of being a synchpant.
There are no fence sitters on this issue, as you were rightly condemned by everyone here, while at the same time having nothing but good things to say about Willow and myself.
We have all got here OG, here is Now, and that is the only reality that is. We dont have to get anywhere.Maybe we wont all live to be 72.Does that make you better than us?
I dont think so.
What is a real man OG?
Is it defined by how many beers one can drink and remain standing?
Would a real man let his granddaughter sit in on an adult dating website?
What other adult sites do you let her view?
Do Her parents know that you expose her to adult dating websites?
Please tell me what it means to be a real man OG, because after living for 56 years, raising 3 children (without exposing them to Adult websites) achieving a bachelor degree as a mature age student, running 4 successful businesses, I clearly in your eyes am not a man by your definition.
It seems even Marcus has gone down in your perception, because he is a syncopant? because he sees injusatice and calls it for what it is.
So what is a man?
Willow was extremely articulate in defining this last night.
What do you think a man is OG?
Posted by: virgil at March 5, 2008 5:25 PM
Lynath, no more tales until some others start fessing up.Where did we stay the 2nd night? I might need some tempting to own up to that one. Don't want to be the only one owning up to silly things.
There were plenty of things we did at 18 that we are probably telling our own kids not to do. Mine still don't know I went to the Sunbury Pop Festival- a few of us were supposedly all stayi
noname
There are many people here who are happily single and not interested in a relationship unless it is with someone they find extremely attractive.
If they find that ideal well and good. In the meantime dating is great fun and durability and depth in a relationship may not be a big deal. RSVP is just one way of increasing your catchment area for finding potential sexual partners (of course 'sexual' in the broad sense of the word).
Cheers Marcus x
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 6, 2008 1:49 PM