RSVP Blog

It's not fair. I try to escape from Monday morning and frantic income-earning to pay a really big bill (no not me - I'm only size 1XL - this one is huge) -

I try to escape into the blog for a minute and boo hoo snivel, it's as dreary this morning as real life. Worse actually - especially short on lightness of touch.

So all I can do is thank Jamie or whoever for clocking on again for a while at mid-evening on Sunday night, when nobody wants to work. Ta, mate.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 17, 2008 10:28 AM

It is time that someone got on here to tell the blokes to get a bit of backbone into them, stop acting like wimps and pooftas and stand up to the insulting conduct that Australian women dish out.

It seems to me, people like to be in a place where they feel safe and OK to be who they are.

I dont care why you are so bitter, I come here to communicate with like minded people in a safe and respectful manner.

Your only contribution is bitterness.

Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 9:32 AM

And one would could only speculate on the fate of Jesus should he be today, travelling and preaching through the "Bible Belt" of the USA!!
Jewels, K, TW........sex!

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 16, 2008 12:17 PM
I imagine the reception Jesus would get from preaching around the bible belt area would be much worse than what he got 2000 years ago, because I think that in general, the controlling mind set of those in charge today is ptretty much the same as then.

Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 9:10 AM

Alterschieber

I noticed when you had your profile visible, you described yourself as "new age"

I wonder what part of the new age movement you find most interesting, the writers, from memory none of your favorite authors seemed particularly new age.

could it be aromatherapy, with tealight candles, incense?

Is it crystals?

I ask because I use aromatherapy, read new age authors and follow some other associated new age practices.

Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 8:44 AM

I have never watched Borat, may have seen the Shawshank redemption but cant remember it.

James Brayshaw on the footy show put me off Borat when he was walking around in that mankini.

I wonder what qualities are on the job description for Presidents of Footy Clubs.

Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 8:23 AM

WnW

When I was referring to many of my generation being "needy" it was what I saw as a point of difference between asking a girl to dance, and just walking onto a dance floor by ones self.

It had to do with me listening to the songs of my youth, hearing now what I didn't hear then. As an example when Nilsen sang "I just cant live, if living is without you"

Whilst the loss of certain partners can be devastating, for a short time, or a long time we do seem to be able to get over it given time.

Posted by: virgil at March 17, 2008 8:17 AM

Ha ha ha alterego - "shouting down with insults and invective any man who politely pointed out a few home truths" - very funny, especially the "politely" bit!!

Posted by: riversong1 at March 17, 2008 8:07 AM

Aunty Kaz, it does appear to be every post that is held.Just above the 'post a comment' box the site has written that all comments need to be approved and it generally takes between 12-24 hours.I think this rule is a recent addition.And I think that the reduced batch of posts to check is simply because of the time lapse causing lack of interest here.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 17, 2008 7:50 AM

On body language.
Amberlight.
You mean the hypothetical Jesus. ;-}
Borat had a hilarious but disturbing sequence on rapture christians in the southern US that captured a bit of contemporary thought on how he might behave.
I didn't mean to leave the Protestants out of it. Perhaps they will befriend me then poison my flour or water?
Aliane.
A string of coincidences dont make a rule. My name is laughsandtalks not laughsandstalks.
Bluebyeu.
Some fair comment. It can be really hard to be taken nicely.
I complimented a woman in a shop who was about my age and stage on the artful gecko tatt she had on her ankle. She looked at me as though I'd offered her 20 bucks, pulled the head back and swept past.This tatt. was quite obviously for public consumption. WTF. Have blokes really such a bad name?
If I say "nice wheels" to a car guy I will always get a cheery response.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 17, 2008 3:49 AM

Kaz @ 8.08pm: It still says "First post held" because they forgot to change the explanation, when they changed the system.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 17, 2008 1:15 AM

IaminPerth @ 8.44pm: I'm sorry I was mistaken about the new you, and I withdraw what I said today. But you can keep the papier mache hat.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 17, 2008 1:10 AM

Kaz @ 8.08pm: I was just raving on. Talking to myself probably, Please continue not to worry about it.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 17, 2008 12:58 AM

Oohlala1 - you made me laugh! Nice to have some fresh air and humour! Yep, agree - maybe aged cheese is preferable to smelly fish!

Princesspenny69 - perceptive intuition - well spotted. From my experience, anger often stems from guilt - not fun for the actors to be seen thru :)

To the lady who peeked at my profile - what a great line - just love it - spot on!: "Married cheaters who claim are "seperated","single" or not actually divorced need NOT apply! Get LOST!I hope someone tells!!!)"

Ha ha!

Posted by: riversong1 at March 17, 2008 12:28 AM

To Karina Re Body Language:

On a meeting recently I listened intently to a fascinating life story, all the while watching him pull his ear, scratch his nose, and not look me in the eye. Although training told me not to tell him I thought he was making it all up, something inside me told me I should, and I did, (although in more polite terms) and I said "Have you ever found that some people find your story difficult to believe?". At this point he said I had insulted him and that I only see the glass half full. Fine. I don't need someone who can't look at himself and doesn't see a need to win respect and trust. Big body language story from me, and by the way I do wonder what he read in mine. Cheers

Posted by: princesspenny69 at March 16, 2008 9:46 PM

timewarp - I am not quite sure who you are referring to in 'our way of thinking' or that you had fed anyone any parody. In fact most of the words you have attributed to me in previous blogs I have not used at all. Methinks you should sit longer staring at the computer to get your facts correct as I can assure you I am not at all interested in your way of thinking.

Posted by: iaminperth at March 16, 2008 8:44 PM

Thank you RSVP for rostering someone late this arvo to clear the small batch of posts since midnight last night.

I hope they could do it from their home computer, rather than having to go into the office.

Thanks for geneological help, blue decorations. Will ponder it when I get back from tennis.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 16, 2008 8:40 PM

Are we adults
or are we children masquerading as adults?

Posted by: woodnwine at March 16, 2008 8:39 PM

Well, Pixie, sweetie, can I go now and hide my profile as Easter is almost here, The Get a Life Program is in full swing over Easter, (for those who actually know what a Life looks like away from their keyboard) and included in that program are delightful young woman/women who would never be found dead on an internet site full of has beens, old cows, screwed ups, dishonest women hiding sordid little affairs on the side and or giving cheese away for a pound of flesh, and all the other miserable contemptible mental debilitations that infest the women on this site.

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 16, 2008 6:52 AM

I just saw this post and I have to make a last comment to this poor deluded old man. You are so horrible about women and this woman particularley that I have to think she has really hurt you bad and that is why you are so horrible about all the nice genuine women who are here each day to share there thoughts and feelings. Any wonder she picked the cheese and not you.

Posted by: oohlala1 at March 16, 2008 8:38 PM

I had a looksee in here a couple of time today to see if anything new was here. There wasn't till now.
So I had a read of one of the old blogs from last year. I didn't read the whole lot cos it was too much and I only had half an hour. I have a theory about why they are now not on real time. There were a whole lot more bloggers then and they had all sorts of interesting stuff to say.
Since I've been reading lately they are just a few people blogging and it is pretty boring a lot of the time. this might be why they are doing it. they want new people to start to write to add some interest.
I still think that anyone should be able to be on RSVP and on these blogs but I ask married or attached people why they would come here to meet friends for other reasons. Maybe it is not a dating site but a friends site. Doesn't matter.
Funny about that man alterschreiber being neuroticfish. I wonder of the lady he is so mean about is the one who went off with the cheap cheese man instead of him. He must be a looser with a big L. He said he is attached too. I dont know why any decent lady would want to travel with a man who has someone. What does his partner think of all this. I can just imagine her body language and it is not good. I think I can see a big rolling pin in her hand. He is probably right under her thumb and only gets to talk to other people when she is not looking.

Posted by: oohlala1 at March 16, 2008 8:32 PM

The youth of today dont seem as "needy" as those of my generation.
Posted by: virgil at March 16, 2008 1:10 PM

Virgil ... I guess your youth was much like mine. I remember when I was in my early 20s I had no interest in a relationship and just wanted to have fun. Now, my agenda is different. When I was 20 I wasn't needy ... I just wanted to go out and party. Now that I'm in my 50s, I'm not needy either but my outlook is a lot more serious. I think you understand.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 16, 2008 8:31 PM

Decoratress 1.43pm.

Spot on!!!!

This is simply crazy. I've never seen anything like it in other places I post.

Is this an adult site or not?

Jen

Posted by: jenniferhi at March 16, 2008 8:09 PM

Timewarp re your post of 3.01 this afternoon (Sunday that is)....
Umm l have no idea what you are on about, nothing unusual there.....
By the way when you post you get a message saying that rsvp will hold your first post until approved......doesn't say anything about EVERY post.......................K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 16, 2008 8:08 PM

Iaminperth @10.31pm Sat said: "Marcus didn't take a swing at the church he simply expressed his opinion albeit rather strongly at the teachings of a particular religion.

That's his view, that's okay. I would think everyone is entitled to their own view without getting slammed for it. Instead of criticizing it would be interesting to hear other views instead of this constant abuse."

I was really delighted to see that signal of your personal defection from Snarky City, you'reinPerth, and your conversion to our way of thinking. And after I'd fed you just one little parody of your last determined attack on me, back in the previous blog.

And even before you could have seen my similar advice to Pixie at 11.24pm on Sat night.

Glad to have got you into your fact-appraising adult so easily. It must have been hiding just under the surface, all along. Here's your brand-new snow-white cowboy hat. Just don't get any black on it, eh?

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 16, 2008 6:39 PM

Methinks that since the sandpit has been closed all day then maybe the picture above suggests -get off the blogs, seek, spend stamps and you may not need the sandpit anymore.Then RSVP makes more money by selling more stamps and needing less staff to moderate and supervise these blogs.
Went to dance party last night. Great dance and plenty of body language to watch.It keeps the gossip alive working out who is interested in whom.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 16, 2008 4:56 PM

Anyone know a blog where people can exchange ideas, thoughts, experiences, advice, etc regarding the dating scene in a manner where respect and tolerance are the key ingredients? This certainly isn't the place.

In spite of moderation, the number of posts getting through that are 100% off topic and/or inflammatory, derogatory or downright (c)rude makes a joke of the whole system.

The blog is good in theory, alas, not in practice.

"Good day, ... I said good day!" :oP

Posted by: misschievously at March 16, 2008 3:15 PM

Kaz @ 11.10pm on the 15th: No, cuz, the politics quickly came and went yesterday - a bit like a player, did I hear you say?

Qld. elections for all the just-enforcedly-merged city and shire councils. And Campbell Newman is back as BrisVegas lord mayor, but now without an opposing majority in Council to hold him back. Hold onto your sun-hats, kiddies.

Today Kaz, it's definitely back to religion: "And on the seventh day, Jamie rested."

(Hey - no disrespect, Jews, Christian fundamentalists and PC Police, in that order - gotta get the seniority sequence right, eh?)

That early bit of Genesis was obviously a comforting oversimplification for simple shepherds, before we knew that the real God (aka Allah) has NOT been given the current day off - evolution through natural selection is continuing to this very day, faster and faster and faster, with the help of a kick (in the guts) along by mankind.

I was entranced to read for example that a widespread English moth that was usually light grey in 1750 to match tree bark, had within one century changed its daytime camouflage colour to almost black in the Midlands, to match the industrial revolution's newly-smoke-blackened landscape.

Kaz, you can have sex tomorrow if you like, or at least some couples body language. Be my guest. But take today off for real life, unless you want to talk to yourself for a while.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 16, 2008 3:01 PM

RSVP....

Does this mean we are really returning to the delayed posting we all suffered before you introduced the Real Time posting privilege?

If this is to continue, what I hear from others is that nobody can be bothered going back to that irritating format where, by the time a post appears, it takes ages to scroll back to find its relevance...... and I am certainly not finding the blog site attractive enough to bother with this tedious process.

The topics are not engaging, & your insistence we stick to topic is unbelievably restricting to the flow of commentary.

I wholeheartedly agree that there are aggressive & insulting people posting offensive comments. Surely, with an organisation your size, you have the discretion to isolate these comments, tag the member's name, & withhold immediate posting privileges for them only.

They are not hard to find.

.. so far, we have managed to cope with their behaviour & give it the attention it deserves.. without being unduly impolite in the process.

Returning to delayed posting will drive the helpful & constructive people from the blogs altogether....

... is this in RSVP's best interests?

Posted by: decoratress at March 16, 2008 1:43 PM

ahh on topic

Plastic girl and looser boy.

I suspect that is what RSVP thinks of us.

It is interesting what people do really think of us.

I remember in my final year at Uni, one of the lecturers who was having a particularly bad day, asked us if we had the intelligence to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Posted by: virgil at March 16, 2008 1:35 PM

Today is Palm Sunday.

I went into Glenelg to buy the newspapers, waited for the Sunday Age, as it had a footy 2008 liftout magazine in it, when returning to my car i noticed police at various points on Jetty Rd, so I asked on what was happening and I was told it was a Palm Sunday procession, so I stayed and watched.

It brought back memories of past Palm Sundays when we would gather at Gino's (a coffee and food place on the cappucino strip in Fremantle) for Sunday breakfast before heading off to St Paul's.

The difference was that we didnt have a police escort, or a Glenelg brass band.

Posted by: virgil at March 16, 2008 1:19 PM

At the conclusion of the meal, walkinjg back to the cars, we passed a group of young people with those light sticks, sitting around a square, we were chatting to them and they were part of the fringe entertainment somehow, they said go and have a look in the church, and when we did we saw many young people dancing by themselves, with these light sticks just happily being themselves, with no agenda, not trying to chat up the opposits sex, just happily being.

There was a little alcohol there, not much, possibly some other substances, but not in your face.

The youth of today dont seem as "needy" as those of my generation.

Co-dependence songs like we discussed here a few weeks ago, would not make the top 40 these days.

Ahh remember the top 40 used to get played from 40 to 1 on Sunday afternoons on 5KA and 2BH.

Posted by: virgil at March 16, 2008 1:10 PM

JenJen l think l would prefer six degrees of separation than 7 seconds of body language.......................K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 16, 2008 1:00 PM

It looks like a good time was had on the blogs last night.

It was a very hot night in Adelaide, where I went out drinking and dining with three lovely ladies and a gentle man from here.

It was truly a night to remember, a really unique pub, incredible old pictures, it is called the Grace Emily.

I didnt know Adelaide had a China Town so a meal in out of a restaurant the we wouldnt have chosen, we were going in next door, but an enterprising young bloke gave us menu's.

So we had a lovely meal there.

I wish to thank the fellow bloggers for a great night, one that will live in my memory for a long time.

Posted by: virgil at March 16, 2008 12:57 PM

I strongly agree with you, Marcus. But it's not just the Roman Catholic Church (although the Church holds sway over many millions of people throughout Asia and South America) that is solely responsible for forcing its beliefs onto thousands that only the Church's way is the "right" way.
Christianity in general both Catholic and Protestant, has eliminated thousands of cultures in indigenous populations through out the world, and fostered hatred of those considered by Christians as being morally corrupt.
(However it seems that those who preach to others seem quite able to justify their own corruptness while condemning others for much less!)
And one would could only speculate on the fate of Jesus should he be today, travelling and preaching through the "Bible Belt" of the USA!!
Jewels, K, TW........sex!

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 16, 2008 12:17 PM

Re: alterscheiber at March 15, 2008 4:52 PM

Why you are on this site is your business alterscheiber.
What I was objecting strongly to is your unfair and unfounded criticism of one particular lady whom you accused of wasting YOUR time, when on one posting you said you hadn't spent time and resources on her and then on another you said you had. (You still haven't stated which of your comments is actually the truth!)
You then inferred that the same lady was a "loser", and timewaster who only wanted to email you for months and months.

You also accused all women on this site as not being genuine, and "Timewasters by the hundreds." A bit much really when one considers that a lot of people may think of you as a timewaster yourself (being already "attached"), when there are people on here who are genuinely looking for that special someone to share their lives with.

It is interesting that when taken to account for such transgressions, men often resort to the "feminist Nazi" or similar stereotypes about women who dare to question or ask them to justify their statements.
To me that is simply the "same old, same old" tactic that men use all the time when they want to avoid taking responsibility for something they have said or done that was wrong.
That sort of language also speaks volumes about why a man is searching for someone "new" in the first place, instead of looking at how he may be interacting with the existing women already in his life.

Surely part of being an adult is taking responsibility for our actions and apologising when we may have been "out of line".
I certainly feel that your comments about that particular lady are completely "out of line" alterscheiber.
Of course, you could choose to continue to throw up "red herrings" and accuse me of being a feminist Nazi, or you could just "grow up" and apologise. It's up to you isn't it?

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 16, 2008 11:34 AM

Maybe people do have a right to be on RSVP for whatever purpose they want ... that could be OK but I think they should work out in their mind what it is they want first so they don't involve others in their confused/confusing "games". That way a lot of hurt could be avoided.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 16, 2008 10:47 AM

TW, this is just my opinion.....
fotoman was someone totally different, and he does have another persona now, but it is not any that you have mentioned (I think).I have seen him recently....Hi Eric, how are you going, nice to see you back, looking at explorers now for inspiration!!!!

Earl of the many persona's is from Brisbane, likes Ramstien, who else does??? uses alot of fake photo's on his profles, but is intelligent, when he isn't fooling around!!! He used to use photo's of actors from those old spaghetti westerns. He is in security or a bouncer with a past he doesn't discuss, into sport, has a partner that he mentions sometimes, and someone as a friend...don't understand how that bit works.

He has had many persona's in the recent past like...earlwyoming/Niceguy/Comeplaytrains/Excaliburwhet/teqieroputa/ramsteinAFB /nurseandpurse/aginghippy/neuroticfish.
Because he is intelligent and witty, in his posts, similarities pop up as time goes on, on how he writes and what he thinks...and did you notice that neuroticfish has gone!!!

A lot of the regulars have this picked......unless we ae all wrong!!! which could be possible, after all it is just my opinion.....Will now retreat before I get shot down...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 16, 2008 10:19 AM

Hello ALL....havent blogged for a longtime , So here goes again body language in this country is terrible...I personally think Australiain woman have way too much tickets on themselves...an not ownly enjoy teasing by wearing next to nothing , but been very selective on who my stare an who my not...of course the ugly men are sexually perverted unless theres a fat wallet or fast car LOL an it seems the good looking blokes are gentlemen....worth the interest.... yeah right .but the worset is the HMMMMphm you get for noticeing , even a casual glance you will see Australiain woman look at a brick wall, or a crack in the roof as they walk past..rather than offering a smile or a nod of the head , even a polite morning...these are stunning woman or plain janes...is this the PARIS go toxic BLONDE out look ...HELL YES .it seems one cant lower ones self LOL
, now some will say im been harsh.....an for that i am sorry...but it is true ...so to all the woman out there strutt an snobing....if your body language an dresss is to entice, an your beautiful, its the selective attitude thats the turn off an a dead give-a way to the shallow depth that resides inside, an sorry been shy dont count with those clothes on, LOL......on ya babe Vxox

Posted by: bluebyeu1 at March 16, 2008 10:14 AM

Laughandtalks,

Marcus

What's makes you special picking on me, my birth-country, my catholic religion, my post the differences between Asian Men & Western Men courtship, I didn't included South American because have no idea how they woo woman. You making big issues of all the information I've supplies, emphasis against in any formative discussion arise.

You usually do, interrupt my discussion to any male bloggers and get Cranky for No reason at all, whilst I am befriended to OG, TW and others, picking and blaming catholic religion as excuses.... It is very obvious your seeking my attention, given you excellent recognition on your academic and literacy. Or have you got another explanation to come up with, to draw my attention wish you want me to do?.....
I'm becoming too controversially on this blog both sexes.

Posted by: aliane at March 16, 2008 8:59 AM

The moderator moderates so that everyone sticks to the topic and no-one says anything offensive....

gee......
looking at what's getting through, I wonder what's getting cut out!

Posted by: riversong1 at March 16, 2008 8:27 AM

Timewarp, Mate.

Try to avoid bustrips. There is time enough for them when you finally are repatriated to a Nursing Home. You will find that the 30 something activities director in the Home will organise 2 bus trips a week where you will be shuttled to such delights as a walk at Southbank (for those who did not leave their colostomy bags back at their Room) or a visit to the Loo (they usually stop 12 times per hour on Nursing Home bus trips).

Try to get one last swing of the cherry in by hobnobbing on the backpackers circuit, talking to 18 year old Swedish backpackers looking for a nice old man with a car that is not a clapped out Kombi van with a smoking exhaust and dubious engine troubles, to show them out of the way Osstraylyen turis spots. Time enough for burying yourself 6 feet under without digging your own grave. Others, especially any woman on this site over 40, are only too happy to wield the shovels and start digging your grave for you. Just don’t help them do it.

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 16, 2008 7:10 AM

On body language.
There was mention earlier about a 7 second assesment. That sounds a bit glib to me.
From my view walking with a woman I have just met gives me body language clues about her interest, or not, in me that are otherwise hard to convey with the finesse, (and deniability if required) she is comfortable with at a sitting meeting.
I find among, a few signs, that the more often she crosses into my personal space and the closer her hand is to mine the more receptive she is. Note: The last observation about signalling reliability is to be disregarded if the walk is towards a cash register after a shared meal. ;-)
Experts say that women can detect about 4 times as many body language signals as men and collect them more subtly. They are also much more adept at masking their own messages. Men can learn the female signalling fairly easy but not always intuitively. It often takes a boob rub, groin/crotch or bending buttock display or some other gross (as in obvious) element of the female repetoir to make a bloke realise he has been selected Men are much more aware as you would perhaps expect of male signalling. Women are intensely tuned to male aggression responses.
Some anthropologists reckon that modern, handsome men have small, flat noses that are a less threatening phallic symbol to todays assertive femmes.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 16, 2008 5:43 AM

timewarp @ March 14, 11.41pm...

Do you really believe that multiple bloggers put up genuine photos on their profiles??? When & if they show them, that is!

What makes you think that? The photos are as fake & often ficticious as the profile...

By the way... justsaying & simplicious are not Earl, of that you can be certain.

Posted by: decoratress at March 16, 2008 1:43 AM

To satisfy Topic requirements: body language... yes, it helps to be able to read it.

Alterscheiber, earlofwyoming, comeplaytrains, neuroticfish are almost certainly the same person (don't remember nurseandpurse.. maybe before my time)

There is another multiple blogger I know (but won't name) who tends to defend women who are being disrespected, & pick up inconsistencies in others' posts.

Multiple blogging names are used for various reasons:

- Some want to avoid being recognised by past partners.. who may be upset.

- Some like to use one or two of their blog names to get aggressive & misogynistic (thefotografer apparently also had several profiles for his various different personas).

-Some people have hidden profiles for genuine reasons.. they've just started seeing someone, but are not sure if it will develop, etc.. These people are generally pleasant on the blogs.

-But some use them to hide from the repercussions of their posts, especially if their posts are aggressive or insulting.

It's a confusing world on this site.. lots of people with well-hidden agendas.. & extremely good disguises. I'm thinking of taking a break from rsvp altogether, after a recent bad experience.

Posted by: decoratress at March 16, 2008 1:16 AM

Junebaby @ 12.02am: Swift! But I beatya by a minute. Waiting with bated breath to your answer to mine at 11.41pm. ciao

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 16, 2008 12:35 AM

K .......next topic....sex....?? lets see what happens next....jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 16, 2008 12:02 AM

CousinKaz @ 11.10pm: Sorry cuz. Will try to keep focussed on the other one of the Forbidden Three - sex.

That OK?

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 16, 2008 12:01 AM

RSVP, thank you so much for condemning a staff member to guard duty at the sandpit tonight, instead of being able to go out on the town - just so we could avoid going out too.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 15, 2008 11:50 PM

Junebaby @ 7.18pm: Now you've got me totally confuselled:

"Alterscheiber who was earl, comeplaytrains, nurseandpurse, neuroticfish??"

I thought his latest manifestations were Justsaying and simplicious, and that Alterscheiber was someone as different in profile and photo to Earl as naughtyfish is.

Unless one or more are having a lend of us all, by flashing a mate's photos, I feel that a shared musical taste is slim evidence.

JuneBaby, please tell us more, and where fotoman & Co fit in. I love genealogy.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 15, 2008 11:41 PM

Pixiemagic @ 9.37pm: That is your opinion, ma'am, when my loved-list doesn't happen to include you,

I see it very differently, Pix. I call it "public praise," and I offer it to anyone who DELIGHTS me - usually from their "playful child" ego state (Berne E: 'Games People Play").

They done good, Pix, and they deserve some positive feedback from us all, for providing what we enjoy so much that we keep reading (or fast-forwarding past) you and me and most of the rest of us lesser lights.

Actually, I could have named a few more authors of unusually good recent posts, but I felt those 3 were way out ahead of the rest of us, last night and today.

On the other hand, Pixiemagic, I often gainsay or parody those who display their "critical-parent" negative ego states in posts that are devoted to PICKING ON other posters for their LACK of the required virtue, primness and/or anal-retentiveness.

Usually for having (or even suggesting) ideas that are more small-l liberal than their attacker's own self-satisfied, right-wing, puritanical viewpoint.

Try being positive for a change, Pix, and you'll find that honey catches more flies than vinegar. And that goes for flies with wings OR zippers.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 15, 2008 11:24 PM

Ah yes religion....next it will be politics....
yadda yadda yadda......next topic .........K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 15, 2008 11:10 PM

On Body Language.
Wishfull, My remarks regarding that organisation refered specifically to the Phillipines following comparisons Aliane made between asian and western wooing style. But ditto for dozens of Latin American countries. The impact of the lack of fertility control and information on the spread of sexually transmissible infectious disease because of the lack of information provided by these self appointed moral guardians is culpable. How would you like to be going through your 9th pregnancy at 30 years old?
Talk about extreme body language. In some of these countries when a woman is found haemorhaging or infected because of a botched backyard abortion they don't send for an ambulance. The police and a priest arrive and they set up a crime scene to investigate the murder of a fetus.There are women serving 15 year jail terms because of this enormous compassion.
As a rationalist I'm entitled to be offended by people promoting and accepting beliefs that if held by single individuals would be diagnostic of mental illness- en masse they are called religion. You don't have to face any of this because you live (I wont say grew up) in a society with the benefit of a strongly secular educational system.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 15, 2008 11:03 PM

Why do people have all these multiple profiles here, male and female. What's the point why can't you just all be yourselves. Marcus didn't take a swing at the church he simply expressed his opinion albeit rather strongly at the teachings of a particular religion. That's his view, that's okay. I would think everyone is entitled to their own view without getting slammed for it. Instead of criticizing it would be interesting to hear other views instead of this constant abuse. Also, please if you are going to try to make out you are from another country at least get the accent and terminology correct, it's getting a little embarrassing.

Posted by: iaminperth at March 15, 2008 10:31 PM

Marcus, I am neither selfish nor blase. You took a swing at the church, you mocked what so many people believe in and live by. All I'm saying is that in this day and age, the Catholic Church isn't as hardlined as it was. You never mentioned the Third World Nations that rely solely on the Church for its information. Which ones Marcus? Instead just had a stab at the church, the virgin birth and whatever else you feel like. It seems that you are able to mouth off at random, and we are all entitled to YOUR opinion. Wonder what your body language looks like when you take the high ground. Calling people names isn't playing nice in the Sandbox either...grow up.

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 15, 2008 9:41 PM

Just back from a most enjoyable bus day trip, and we have had moderation all day! (With time off for a lunch break, of course.) Thank you RSVP for paying for the overtime, or rescheduling someone to work weekend in lieu. Much appreciated.

And a lot of good stuff to read since clockoff/cutoff at sunset Friday.

JenJen @ 5.25pm, Marcus @ 12.53pm and Blueeyes @ 11.47pm on 14th: bravissimo thrice! You 3 made it totally worth ploughing through Fri. evening and today.

Alterscheiber - nice to see your postings - good stuff, even when you're cranky. (I had planned to butt in and remind Pixie about "velvet paws" after her post at 1.09pm today, but you'd already taken care of it yourself so nicely at 4.31pm.)

And even nicer to see someone with their profile wide open as "for friends only" while they blog here with multiple penfriends. Way to go, mate.

JustSaying "simplicious" (at 11.54pm on 14th) instead of "Justsaying" is a real problem when you're running multiple hidden profiles, isn't it? I thought it was you, just having a go at men for a change, instead of women.

I was interested in the tone of your third-round responses after the last 2 times you had had a go at me and then I defended myself resolutely - both times your final comments sounded a bit petulant. Mate, I run my kitchen good and hot.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 15, 2008 8:48 PM

If I attempt to play games in my behalf, what would I gained? Nothing gained, more I threw myself in the edge of troublesome. Satisfaction attachment with married man or a game players, hanging off my neck in tightrope losing half of my asset ( at least 400,000) for after what? have rights take me to court a de-facto relationship? No, I wont place my bet for such questionable affairs matters of simple non-negotiable adventures.

Posted by: diorcc at March 15, 2008 8:30 PM

Alterscheiber who was earl, comeplaytrains, nurseandpurse, neuroticfish?? and the other 12 persona's I have seen in the last 7 months, you need to change your music tastes if you truly want to be a different persona, Ramstien gives it away every time!!!!!!!
Have a lovely evening all.....jewels (who has 1 profile only which is now hidden, those that know me know why!!!)

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 15, 2008 7:18 PM

More to the post of 5.37 pm, just put a response on the kiss section, "Interested in you, send me a stamp" that should do it, both ways
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 15, 2008 6:50 PM

Posted by OG at March 15, 2008 5:37 PM
"...The blogs exhibit much more of a personality profile than the so often contrived formal profile tendered originally..."

If that is true....and I suspect that he might actually have a point...then, for some of the constant bloggers, their sole interaction with other human beings is probably best left to the blogs.

D.

Posted by: justanormal1 at March 15, 2008 6:16 PM

Just noticed on the picture, that looks like an AFL ball, LOL
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 15, 2008 5:39 PM

Mr. Moderator.
It seems to me that most of the mischief makers on these blogs seem to be the ones with hidden profiles. It also begs the question as to why if they are in a arrangement should they not persue that commitment exclusively. The blogs exhibit much more of a personality profile than the so often contrived formal profile tendered originally, I have had the problem of responding to so many of the kisses because of the cost and sending a stamp in expectation of a discourse with the person, only to find they agreed with my stance on the blogs but did not want any other contact. Maybe this could be addressed on the kiss responce section. I would have no hesitation in purchasing stamps if I knew there would be an interaction. As a man it seems that we are the ones who are expected to send the stamp,
OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 15, 2008 5:37 PM

every man on here is Mr Genuine is that right??
As if..........................K
Posted by: auntykaz at March 15, 2008 4:57 PM

Of course they are Kaz and that is why it is so hard to choose just one from the thousands available.
Now if we could just have that 7 seconds of body language with one of them........

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 15, 2008 5:25 PM

Gang,
Why am I getting a sense of Deja Vu, apart from body language there is a trait to express the written word that repeats itself to a commonality, the misogony and invective are starting to sound similar.
OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 15, 2008 5:19 PM

Justsaying @ 2,14 pm 15/3.
Yes the lady sent me her password so I had the oportunity to see her. What a lot of people do not know is that by striking a pose for a photo they also subconsciously depict their impression of themselves. In most cases. I noticed the same reaction when the models at the art school were asked to adopt a free style pose.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 15, 2008 5:12 PM

Alterscheiber l guess you think that every man on here is Mr Genuine is that right??

As if..........................K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 15, 2008 4:57 PM

Amberlight

There are always women telling men they should be somewhere else- like at home minding the beer fridge, keeping the tele warm, fetching the missus’ slippers etc.

But has it occurred to you that I am on this particular site for a reason- my main travelling companion to date roosts here permanently, and I know how lonely she gets all by her little self, so I just want to keep her company, (and may be sell her the benefits of a trip around Australia) as my dog said she is not coming, my cat has run away from home, and my offspring have all disappeared overseas. So it might end up being her or the bush.

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 15, 2008 4:52 PM

To that lady altersheeber I think noone can say why people join internet dating sites. There are lots of reasons and all might be alrite. There are people who write here just to be in touch with each other. I found that a big bore to read but if thats what they want so what what I think.

Posted by: oohlala1 at March 14, 2008 9:43 PM

See Mr Schreiber I think it ok for anyone to be on the site. It was you said that ladies who are dating should not be here. I dont see anything wrong with married people looking for friends. You usualy have fun with friends. That is why I have them as well as for support. That s what people say here that they give each other. You seem to have a big problem with women and I can see why that woman didnt want to travel with you.
I'm hidden cos I am dating. I met someone a few weeks ago and taking it slow. If his body language is anything to go by things are looking great.
The other ladies here seem to agree with me too.

Posted by: oohlala1 at March 15, 2008 4:51 PM

Marcus l didn't know blokes had ovaries.........
All those sex education classes at high school and my mothers random attempts at it must have been misleading. How silly of me.......................K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 15, 2008 4:33 PM

“I've been seeing a married man for about a year. I knew that he had a wife when I met him and started the affair, but I didn't think it would progress as it has. I have fallen in love with him, which I didn't expect. He says he's fallen in love with me too, but he can't leave his wife yet. He says he "needs time" to tell her so that the divorce goes smoothly. This man is so amazing, caring and wonderful, but I feel so hopeless, like we'll never be together. I know this is wrong, but I can't seem to let him go. What is wrong with me? Confused, Melbourne. http://dontdatehimgirl.com/love_panel/

What’s my body language saying, Pixie.

It’s saying you are going to catch a bad dose of clap(trap) on here.

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 15, 2008 4:31 PM

There is another problem with blogs being moderated. I make a posting, and then a few hours later I check to see if it has appeared and if it hasn't I have to try and remember what I wrote so I don't repeat myself.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 15, 2008 4:00 PM

HI Amberlight, I think the 7 second theory and initial gut feeling is the 'do they visually appeal' factor. If they pass that, and yes it is superficial, then we move onto examining the next layer which is body language and conversation. But as I said earlier, we don't always know we have a good book to read until we have read at least a couple of chapters.Most of the time our 'gut' feelings are right but occasionally we find a diamond hiding underneath.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 15, 2008 3:41 PM

Was there a hiccup this morning and the following post got missed?

____________________________

Hmmmmm....insider knowledge?

Posted by: oldergent at March 14, 2008 7:37 PMMarcus,
>"I have seen the body language, of the Postie very nice, open and honest. OG"

Posted by: justsaying at March 15, 2008 2:41 PM

This reminds me of Saturday morning shopping back in the 70s... everything shut at noon!!!

Posted by: victoriadownunder at March 15, 2008 2:31 PM

Hi bonsie @ 8:33 AM,
I wish I'd known about your 7 seconds theory (which on refelection makes a lot of sense) in my youth!
How often do we have that "gut" feeling on meeting someone, we ignore it and give them the benefit of the doubt and in the end that feeling was actually right?

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 15, 2008 2:20 PM

I couldn't agree more (magellan2, March 11:36 PM) going onto a site like this can be very scary for a lot of us! The blogs give us a chance to talk to real people and get tips and advice, and (often) sorely needed encouragement as well!
Wouldn't that be seen by most people as a positive?

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 15, 2008 2:07 PM

Your welcome Marcus, and I'm heading off for more of the same tonight.Its actually even better than speed dating where you only get a quick chat in.Tonight it's a dance party where they throw in a lesson as well so when you rotate you get to chat to lots of people. Everyone usually makes an effort to get dressed up and look great.Will increase my skills in body language tonight.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 15, 2008 1:54 PM

looks like midday was the cut off for todays blogs.
Hope it comes back this evening or tomorrow.

Posted by: virgil at March 15, 2008 1:51 PM

Sorry for the deviation off blog topic, but if someone is going to besmirch a particular lady then they need to be seen as accountable!

And, no, I did not waste time or resources on the lady in question, but she did blame me for a few things, when she should look at her own actions first, and she has left, inter alia, because of the “poor quality of the males on here,” when much could be said about the women
Posted by: alterscheiber at March 15, 2008 4:44 AM

Of course I wasted “precious time and resources” on this femme.
Posted by: alterscheiber at March 15, 2008 7:34 AM

A bit contradictory, alterscheiber don't you think?

"So I then suggested a few “activities” within her specialty, like going to a Collingwood game dressed in loud wig and colours with black and white face paint, hurling insults at the refs and the opposition, drowning oneself in sorrow at yet another losing streak, the normal Melburnian type of winter pastime for losers etc etc etc but all she wanted to do was email for months and months on end. What a waste of time and resources!"

It appears that in your opinion the lady in question was a "loser" anyway, going by the above comment (why on earth she would want to email you for months on end, I can't possible imagine. Low self-esteem, perhaps?), so why did you even bother wasting "time and resources" on her in the first place? (Gives you something to whinge about and an opportunity to play the "victim" card, I suppose)

Anyway, as it's obvious you are not looking for anything serious other than "a bit on the side" (you have an "open" marriage?) then it is probably a bit rough to "bad-mouth" the lady in question. Maybe she couldn't afford all the "trips" you were suggesting?

For your kind of "relationship" (could it even be considered "genuine" in view of the type of success stories RSVP likes to promote on its site?) may I suggest you try a travel blog to look for a travelling companion, perhaps with benefits? That may be more what you are looking for rather than even trying to suggest that only you, as a quality male, are looking for a "genuine" relationship on on RSVP, whereas all the ladies are "Timewasters by the hundreds." or (what do you mean exactly?) "when much could be said about the women"

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 15, 2008 1:47 PM

Re Body Language.
Re the camoflauged uberschreiber's underwear. Don't you mean ovaries auntykaz?

Wishfulstinking. I hope you are happy being comfortably blase and selfish. No contraception (or abortion) is the fundamental principal of the organisation I mention. Often in third world countries it is the only potential source of information. There is a good argument for criminal culpability in some circumstances.
When I was young and lived in Ararat a local priest was also quite enlightened. He enjoyed communion with a couple of the older parish women. According to my friend who was in the choir if you were under 15 it did not matter what your gender was.
Cheers Marquis
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 15, 2008 1:23 PM

RSVP

Thank you for putting a moderator on Saturday morning hopefully also Saturday afternoon and Sunday.

Do you envisage a time when we will be mature enough to self moderate?

At least we dont want to have moderators only on the 9 to 5 shift, as most people will be here say between 4pm and midnight.

Posted by: virgil at March 15, 2008 1:16 PM

alter....you must be a born again blogger as the hidden profile debacle happened quite some time ago.

Obivously I was right as a lot of people feel the same. Do you mean you actually catch anything on here??...maybe you mean a dose of something?

Posted by: pixiemagic at March 15, 2008 1:09 PM

alterschieber
Does this name mean something?
It is very different, sounds German?

People here are fairly sensitive to hidden profiles, as a hidden profile from a new person, one not well known by some or many here, often tends to be a regular blogger using a newly created profile, in order to say hurtful things to people they interact with every day on here.

Thank you for displaying your profile. It is polite to do so when first making comments here.

I think many of us hide our profiles at times, I recently hid my profile when I was feeling unwell, and was getting many kisses and didnt know what I could do with them.

Posted by: virgil at March 15, 2008 1:06 PM

jenjen. On body language and laughing at your jokes.
That is so long as the joke they are laughing at is not your old boy.
Cheers

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 15, 2008 12:53 PM

Thanks Blueeyes. Re Body language and discernable intentions.
Too true about that dancing.
I enjoyed my weekly couple of hours worth of the vertical Fri night as well.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 15, 2008 11:57 AM

Morning twoeyes..............deviate from the blog topic at your peril !!
Don't you have some very recent body language experience you can comment on hmmm ??
I have heard that if women laugh at your jokes that is a very very good sign :)

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 15, 2008 11:54 AM

March 14, 2008 8:04 PM ........isn't that cowardly??
Show that you are genuine, stand up for your opinion and let us real bloggers see you.....I don't take any of what you said , seriously as you are mouthing off while hiding...have a lovely evening all......jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 14, 2008 9:21 PM

BUT YOU KNOW JB THAT THE HIDDEN PROFILE PEOPLE DONT LIKE TO BE OUTED. THEY THRIVE ON THEIR ANONIMITY AND ONLY LOG ON TO BLOG NOT TO BE SEEN OR HAVE ANY REAL INTENTION TO TRY TO FIND SOMEONE

Posted by: twoeyes at March 15, 2008 10:29 AM

Regarding the raising of Lazarus.

Jesus was fully human, did he have the power to raise someone back to life?

One of the biggest questions I have always had in connection to beliefs, is that if it cant/ doesnt happen now, how could it happen in times gone by.

Maybe Jesus did raise Lazarus, maybe what cant happen today, couldnt happen 2000 years ago.

When I go to church, I dont check my brain in at the door, as many others who attend the church i went to in WA also dont. We like to give the process the benefit of the doubt, but certainly dont all believe what we were all expected to believe 50 years ago.

Posted by: virgil at March 15, 2008 8:58 AM

Surely the institutionalised lying about minor matters of virgin births, the smelly dead rising, let alone the witholding of proper advice on contraception and hygeine constitute serious moral failings.
Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 14, 2008 8:35 PM.

Marcus
The virgin birth was not a minor matter, rather it is the central plank of Roman Catholicism, used to drive women from the centre of what is going on, to the two poles apart, The saint and the sinner (prostitute).
Idealising the saint and condemning the prostitute.

All part of the domination of women to facilitate obedience to the patriachal model for society that has brought so much suffering to people, particularly women.

Posted by: virgil at March 15, 2008 8:47 AM

Marcus

I think I know what you mean by repressive western Christianity.

That was pracised in the Victorian era, whereby It was frowned upon to not attend church on a Sunday.

Where if your priest asked you where you were last Sunday and you said at AAMI /Subi watching Crows/ Eagles there would be stern words said.

Thee was none of the concept of going because you wanted to, it was more of a control thing.

When I was a child, it was off to church most Sundays, then we would be driven home, dad would immediately be off to the pub till closing time. Which in Broken Hill in those days was 1.00pm.

This was to ensure fathers were present at the Sunday Lunch meal, which in our house was the major meal for the day.

Western Christianity of the Victorian era, to my way of thinking did not bring much joy to many people, so consequently was decimated by the cultural revolution of the 60's & 70's.

Posted by: virgil at March 15, 2008 8:34 AM

Hi Karina,
I am big beliver in body language, it's quite noticeable on reactions on first meeting your date. the way the women looks and her body movements. Although i am not 100% accurate most times.

its a learning experience and to which i am getting better. in most cases you can tell if a women is intrested in you within the first 7 seconds. yeah yeah i here.

put this to test then.
On first meeting anyone male - female , or female - male
when you first meet and they appear to you as being aggorant or rude. then this will be a sticking point, you will never forget this.

even after a few weeks you will go back to the first meet and remeber on what the first 7 seconds was like.

i am a frim beliver in the 7 seconds theory.
and has never proven me wrong to this date.

adios all.

Posted by: bonsie at March 15, 2008 8:33 AM

I looked at Alterscheibers profile a few days ago and I am pretty sure he is attached and seeking friends to travel. That must mean he is a big hippocrite. Id forgotten that last nite when I thought he was a lady.
There seem to be a lot of men on this site who are attached and looking for some fun. They should go too and then there will just be two or three people blogging. Do you have to stop posting here when you get a date. I've only blogged a few times in the two months I've been on rsvp but I thought it was just an exchange of ideas between members not a totally singles blog. If that was so then all you would have here would be the total losers who cant ever get a date. That is odd thinking.

Posted by: oohlala1 at March 15, 2008 8:27 AM

Amberlight.

Of course I wasted “precious time and resources” on this femme.

Seeing I am only looking for a travelling companion and activity partner, I suggested to her a trip to Tasmania, a trip to Adelaide, one to London, France and Prague, may be travelling the Trans Siberian, and lastly a cruise around the Greek Isles. But she was not interested. She just wanted to go by herself to Bali and be bombed out of her brain.

So I then suggested a few “activities” within her specialty, like going to a Collingwood game dressed in loud wig and colours with black and white face paint, hurling insults at the refs and the opposition, drowning oneself in sorrow at yet another losing streak, the normal Melburnian type of winter pastime for losers etc etc etc but all she wanted to do was email for months and months on end. What a waste of time and resources!

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 15, 2008 7:34 AM

Hmm. Body language.
I think Rastus has just had a Minties.
He is tapping that ball against his head as he realises the babe he pulled at the recovery dance club has broader shoulders and bigger arms (and more botox) than him. Funny too that she was standing and twinkling as he walked past the half open loo door. Alchohol and red mitsubishis. Haha.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 15, 2008 5:25 AM

I was merely pointing out a very good reason why the blogs are being moderated.

They were being trashed. It may not be the true reason (which has probably got something to do with staff cuts) but it will do.

Now when it comes to hidden profiles, surely you read the message that rsvp so conveniently pops up:

“Profile owners sometimes hide profiles when they have too much contact, or when they have just started seeing someone seriously.”

So I am entitled to hide my profile if I have been overwhelmed by the sheer volume of contacts and just cannot handle so many ladies all at once (you wish) or “I have started seeing someone ‘seriously’” Wonder if they could change the word “seriously” to “half seriously” or “can’t get out of bed” or “One’s enough for a while” or “I’ve had enough of the tripe on here and am due to get a real life again, it being Easter et al”

And, no, I did not waste time or resources on the lady in question, but she did blame me for a few things, when she should look at her own actions first, and she has left, inter alia, because of the “poor quality of the males on here,” when much could be said about the women

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 15, 2008 4:44 AM

hmmmm yes well has anyone realised that the clock in the pic is just as posed as the rest of the scene? 10 past 10 exactly. I hope you don't believe that. Else some guys might just get past that 'intuition' :P

Posted by: boyfriendmaterial at March 15, 2008 2:29 AM

Virgil @ 9.36am Friday wrote:

"Maybe my education is a bit lacking here, so TW please explain how a spelling mistake can be taken as a "crass" comment?"

OK, I'll try. I had actually said the reverse - that it was to use the correct full spelling that was crass.

I was talking about my early 20s, in the late 1950s. Crude acronyms like ROFLMAO were not in use yet, especially by women, but we boys did go a short way towards masking our antique crudities by abbreviating, and then pronouncing the word as the abbreviation.

So the indisputably crass "leg-opener" was pronounced "gope-na" and written "legopner" or similar, so that it wouldn't sound quite so inyerface. As I said, PG (if not PC) rather than MA+.

Then JustSaying advised me that "opner is spelt as opener." So did iaminperth, and in this context I thought it was very crass of them both to spell the nasty expression out in full, and said so.

Does that make sense now?

2) Virgil, I really agree with your final statement in that post:

"I have found the best leg opener to be treating a woman like she deserves, as an equal in all respects, doing my share of the domestic duties, and like she really matters to me."

I've also heard it put this way: "A woman's most sensitive erogenous zone is her mind."

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 15, 2008 12:37 AM

Ermmmm...I posted a compliment re thelynathdiary's advice at March 13, 2008 6:30 PM -not blogged.

Also, the following, originally posted 7:48am Fri 14.3.8 on Body Language -not blogged.

--------------------------------------------------
Re posting by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 12:09 AM,
>"a sneaky sniper".

Tut, tut timewarp. No need to get personal and try hitting below the belt.

After all, I was simply responding to a fraction of your many stated opinions on the blogs. At no stage have I commented on your profile, so why would you need to see mine? -To be even more personal than you are being now?

--------------------------------------------------

Getting back to this current crack down on the blogs.

Yep, there certainly does seem to be a smidgeon of discrimination going on in here...

Seeing as body language is unusable through this medium, can anyone tell me who I have to bed- ermmm befriend, employ or be an employee of, to get a blog posted in real time?

Because I really don't want to be forced into a habit of a certain American politician Spitzer.
-Using an agency where some employees are paid $5 500 per hour, is just a bit over the top.

Here's an idea. Would saying "pretty please", make any difference?

Or, should I plead not being "intemperate", as the Open(er) Sesame -to having the freedom of speech in this underworld section of RSVP.

Perhaps the Saturday morning RSVP staff will have a different view (after a morning coffee or two,) if not sense of humour and relent?

Signed by,

Body-Language-Wannabe-Blogger.

Posted by: simplicious at March 14, 2008 11:54 PM

MArcus,it was vertical, but by definition ,so it is said, it is an expression of a horizontal intention.Lots of up close, dips included,great music plus a demo.You should try it.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 14, 2008 11:47 PM

"Is timewarp1 the only one privileged to have his blogs posted immediately (and ad infinitum)?" Posted by: justsaying at March 14, 2008 10:03am.

Hello Mr Pot. You have proved you can manage an adequate-length essay yourself, so why not exceed my output, mate, instead of knocking it?

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 11:46 PM

It is a possibility that people become tired of dating or chasing rainbows and then at some stage realise that maybe just blogging as light relief is better than getting emotionally stressed out over knock backs and trying to fulfill somebodies wish list.
I can understand that in the relentless pursuit of a partner you can get to as stage where it no longer becomes a priority and one can take it or leave it.
That's my opinion anyway :)

Posted by: magellan2 at March 14, 2008 11:36 PM

Hmmm interesting that it is only women that seems to get ubersheibers jocks in a knot.
Does that mean that he considers all the posts made by men to be rational and reasonable??

Everyone gets a bit hot headed now and again, but at least most of us have the balls to have our profiles up............K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 14, 2008 11:25 PM

OG, Quite a few of the new bloggers comment on the extra peeks they get once they start blogging, and more kisses.
Hope it all works for you and you get to check out some body language :)

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 14, 2008 11:18 PM

Ahh i see true to form the RSVP chatroom is full of chatters again

Posted by: hondalady at March 14, 2008 10:33 PM

I thought that the word "alterscheiber" may have been a german word that had an actual meaning. I was curious to know what it might mean, so I googled it.

I was very surprised when the word came up under the RSVP website: category single white female aged 18-20. Nothing else of course as your profile is not visible.

If this is the case, then why do you even care "alterscheiber"?

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 14, 2008 10:10 PM

Let�s hope the vetting of the blogs continues.

The absolute drivel that was being posted was an embarrassment to sane and normal adult people on her.
Posted by: alterscheiber at March 14, 2008 8:04 PM

Unless you are one of the multi-personalities, of a regular blogger,( if you were spending time reading the blogs as a lurker, with no interest in improving the content of the blog by contributing) then I feel if the content was not to your liking you could have made a comment, but chose not to.

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 10:10 PM

Thank you so much RSVP for rostering someone to watch the sandpit in the evening. I for one am most grateful.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 10:07 PM

I believe that if RSVP had warned us of dire consequences if certain actions continued, there would have been much beeter behaviour.

I feel there is a connection between the ability to use the blogs in real time chatting to others here, and my enjoyment of the site in general.

Without the blogs this site becomes much more ordinary and I feel much easier to look at competitors products.

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 10:02 PM

Riversong,
As always like your body language, well before you changed the passwords and I could see it. lol
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 14, 2008 9:47 PM

this is encouraging timestamp 9.04 hope it continues

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 9:47 PM

I wonder if RSVP are suggesting that body language is really important in a relationship or in forming relationships. If it is then they are going against their basic concept that is
making a relationship online.
You can't see the person as they write to you or read what you have written to them They could be laughing their heads off while you are getting in deeper and deeper.
Someone said that players are good ay pretending. They do that with body language too.
To that lady altersheeber I think noone can say why people join internet dating sites. There are lots of reasons and all might be alrite. There are people who write here just to be in touch with each other. I found that a big bore to read but if thats what they want so what what I think.

Posted by: oohlala1 at March 14, 2008 9:43 PM

laughsandtalks, this is probably not the place to be dismissing what others may believe in. I can only think that you are refering to the Catholic church and/or Pope etc. for the withholding of proper advice - seriously - who goes to the Church these days for THAT type of advice? You will find most parish priests more than happy for their flock to take contraception...so they are not all guilty of moral failings..

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 14, 2008 9:43 PM

Alter...why is it only women? There are quite a few men on this site who like to blog too. Not sure what was embarrassing to sane and normal adults - as far as I know - all those who blog are quite sane and adult most of the time... and check again ...Timewasters by the hundreds? Must be more "moderated" blogs we don't know about then....

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 14, 2008 9:22 PM

so its ok for yu to rany agaainst women on the blogs, from the safety of your hidden profile......referring to alterscheiber at March 14, 2008 8:04 PM ........isn't that cowardly??
Show that you are genuine, stand up for your opinion and let us real bloggers see you.....I don't take any of what you said , seriously as you are mouthing off while hiding...have a lovely evening all......jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 14, 2008 9:21 PM

Hello alterscheiber,
Did you "waste precious time and resources" on the now departed femme?
If not, what are you whinging about?

Are you really saying 99% of the 1,000s of women on this site are only here to blog? If that was the case there wouldn't be enough room for you to "speak" in the first place!

Perhaps you may like to re-consider your definition of "drivel"? The comments you have posted are a blatant exaggeration to say the least!
What is your definition of a "sane" and "normal" adult anyway?

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 14, 2008 9:20 PM

altersheiber -agreed - but just a naive question - if it is a dating blog, how are you "dating" if your profile is not visible?

Yep - tighter control on the blog needed! :)

Posted by: riversong1 at March 14, 2008 9:04 PM

Alterschieber,
Maybe it is true about the just bloggers, but for the rest of us that are looking honestly, I noticed that before I started blogging I was getting one peep on the profile maybe, since being on line each day I am getting more kisses, not in my profile range but I have made some nice contacts. So I do consider the blogs important, also the social contact made in them.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 14, 2008 8:56 PM

Re your post on Body Language riverschlong1.
I can see you getting into a righteous lather at the keyboard.
Can you explain to me the connection between adults consenting to sex and morality?
Surely the institutionalised lying about minor matters of virgin births, the smelly dead rising, let alone the witholding of proper advice on contraception and hygeine constitute serious moral failings.
Isn't it strange and disappointing that the societies that have the greatest freedom and tolerance and information available also have the highest social indicators?
Cheers Dear

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 14, 2008 8:35 PM

Marcus @ 7.08 pm back on 13th: Good work, mate. One of your best. True wit and I loved it.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 8:35 PM

Blueeyes.

Re your post on Body Language.
Is that vertical or horizontal dancing you will be enjoying tonight?

Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 14, 2008 8:21 PM

Marcus,
"repressive Western Christianity 100 year old Victorian values", if that mean taking the time to get to know and become friends with someone first, wins hands down over "promiscuous sprititual wasteland modern morality-free zone", where everything is expected to happen "instantly" and "perfectly" a la "chemistry" and the ads and fantasies one is fed on TV/hollywood/fantasy zone!!!!

Posted by: riversong1 at March 14, 2008 8:08 PM

Let�s hope the vetting of the blogs continues.

The absolute drivel that was being posted was an embarrassment to sane and normal adult people on her.

It might also discourage those whose sole purpose for being on this site was to blog. It is a dating site NOT a blogging site.

Blogging unfortunately became the ultimate in self vindication, which is the reason why 99% of women are on this site in the first place. Timewasters by the hundreds.

AS one femme, now departed (oh boo ho) admitted quite freely, she already had a boyfriend servicing her basic needs. She was only on the site to blog.

Now how many males were fooled by her profile allegedly seeking some sort of "relationship" and wasted precious time and resources on that one. Nothing like a bit of dishonest motivation, now is there.

So, women. Examine your conscience. Why are you on this site. Go elsewhere if you are not genuine. There are still quite a few more on the blogs who aren't. Found the exit door yet? Maybe tighter blog control will assist you to depart.

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 14, 2008 8:04 PM

Maybe our moderator has finished for the day!
So it appears we can no longer "speak" to each other in real time.
Obviously RSVP only want "one-off" light-weight comments about the light-weight questions put forward by our young Karina!
I think the need to have our comments moderated may well be a bit of blarney from RSVP, after all this is an adult dating site isn't it?
I suggest that RSVP don't appreciate our "real-time" conversations and are of the opinion that we should spend stamps to talk to each other!
Pity really as it won't be fun anymore, and there's not much fun in talking to yourself! (Hey I've got 4 kids, when they're around I talk to myself all the time!!)

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 14, 2008 7:55 PM

Marcus,
I have seen the body language, of the Postie very nice, open and honest. OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 14, 2008 7:37 PM

Looks like Marcus hit the button just before closing time today at 6.56pm.
Alice is looking through the rabbit hole again, and Dorothy and Toto are definitely not in Kansas anymore...................K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 14, 2008 7:27 PM

Shades of deja vu...in the "old" days where we'd wait 2 days for posts to appear. So much for spontaneity - seems a waste of time - easier to communicate with those who have upset the moderator in the first place rather than punish all...

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 14, 2008 7:23 PM

Jen57@6.14.
I was taught that a person could sustain an false personna in speach, with body language there were indications from the start as to whether they were not honest and it was much harder to sustain over time, vert hard to concentrate on two things at once, convincingly.

Marcus. glad to see you are a bastion of Asian affairs, but methinks you are confusing the difference in religons, and one has nothing to do with Victorian society at all, the body language is completely different.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 14, 2008 7:20 PM

Dedication to this song to all...
Wished everyone to fall in love again...

"Everytime we touch'' (slow)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GVosRh7wbQ&NR=1

Aliane...thanks to all...

Posted by: aliane at March 14, 2008 7:18 PM

Hi Everyone,
Apparently I also can't be trusted.
Does anyone know who "I" (obviously our moderator; shouldn't it have been "we" the RSVP organisation) is? To use the word "I" sounds like we should know whomever it is personally!!

As I have to work, like most of us, I can't stay up until after midnight most nights just to see if my comments have been accepted or not.

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 14, 2008 7:17 PM

Don't think there is a trusted status anymore, June. Going dancing instead tonight where no doubt there will be more interaction than here, especially if the moderator has finished his/her shift.I'll watch for the body language there instead and I guarantee there will be more to watch there.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 14, 2008 7:11 PM

Re: Moderating every Comment
Does this mean we'll hardly ever get to hear from Marcus again?!
No more crude comments about women and their bodily bits?!
Who will we rail against!

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 14, 2008 7:11 PM

Many people are experts at faking body language................look at some of our politicians............smile and nod at us while telling bare faced porkies :)

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 14, 2008 7:11 PM

Re Aliane's Body Language post.
'Asian values' (whatever that means, as the dominant cultural force in the Phillipines has been a certain brand of repressive Western Christianity) are akin to our 100 year old 'Victorian values'.
Asian cultures that I'm familiar with have a time honored system where many men who can afford it freely have major and minor wives too so not much different from the west.
Interesting post- pity we cannot se the postie. ;-}
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 14, 2008 6:56 PM

looks like we have gone back in time......to having everything moderated....I can't post in real time anymore!!!!! What happened to my trusted status?? I had it from Oct till now....and now its gone!!

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 14, 2008 6:50 PM

it will be a shame if the blogs return to being moderated, as stuff won't get posted over the weekend, this is that way it was back in july 2007, when i first discovered the blogs....but a few of regular bloggers got a trusted status...wonder if mine still works....will find out when this gets posted ...or not!! Have a lovely evening all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 14, 2008 6:47 PM

it will be a shame if the blogs return to being moderated, as stuff won't get posted over the weekend, this is that way it was back in july 2007, when i first discovered the blogs....but a few of regular bloggers got a trusted status...wonder if mine still works....will find out when this gets posted ...or not!! Have a lovely evening all...jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at March 14, 2008 6:46 PM

Hi all. The night before last I submitted 3 passionate posts in 2 diierent blogs, suggesting that if we were going to have 100% pre-moderation by only one person on a single shift, then it would be helpful for that shift to start at sundown and finish about midnight, rather than the day shift when so many of us can't take part.

Some of my language was not temperate, so all 3 messages hit the cutting-room floor.

I'm glad that others' (starting with JenJen) have been able to get the message published. Seeyez.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 6:41 PM

Most of our communication everyday is non verbal rather than verbal and I think women are generally more perceptive than men.............its called women�s intuition !! Women are much better at picking up on the non-verbal signals and we have a very good eye for small details.

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 14, 2008 6:31 PM

Alaine - there are some western (north european) women in here that think the same as your asian men!!

Thanks - will respond directly after I serve my time re dinner for the kids!

Posted by: riversong1 at March 14, 2008 6:18 PM

You are right Aliane. Body language might tell you if someone is interested or not, but there are a lot of people who are very good at disguising their true feelings and pretend things they aren't really feeling. How do we spot the serial daters and those others that are not emotionally available ??

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 14, 2008 6:14 PM

Please don't let this be a return to the 'dark ages' of the blog when nothing was posted from Friday to Monday or longer.....

Posted by: thelynathdiary at March 14, 2008 5:58 PM

Marcus,
Since I was replying to Mischievous who state she had started to become nervous in a car with a virtual stranger, my response was at all alarmist. It is just basic safety for women..
I mean, after all, you are on the loose....smelling of Green Ginger wine and Formaldehyde as aftershave with you coconuts in your pockets so that you can play with them all the time....

Whether or not a date with me would be boring is something you will never know,,,and that is exactly what is bothering you isn't it? xxooxx

Posted by: thelynathdiary at March 14, 2008 5:57 PM

It's as cold in here as it it is on that couch.Perhaps Karina could get of her butt and do some repairs

Posted by: abckenny at March 14, 2008 5:37 PM

It's as cold in here as it it is on that couch.Perhaps Karina could get of her butt and do some repairs

Posted by: abckenny at March 14, 2008 5:37 PM

It's as cold in here as it it is on that couch.Perhaps Karina could get of her butt and do some repairs

Posted by: abckenny at March 14, 2008 5:36 PM

It's as cold in here as it it is on that couch.Perhaps Karina could get of her butt and do some repairs

Posted by: abckenny at March 14, 2008 5:35 PM

Thanks for those thoughts aliane. It is interesting to hear how different cultures behave and react differently. What is the norm for some is considered outrageous for others.

Even within the same culture there are differences. Some women like to be treated one way and others like to be treated the opposite. Some have older, 'traditional' values and others are more 'liberal' minded.

Plenty of challenges out there in deciphering the body language, words and actions of ladies for us mere mortal males :)

Posted by: boyfriendmaterial at March 14, 2008 5:15 PM

a whole lot of nothing is going on jenniferhi and that's the problem. i thought this was supposed to immediate. To chat, to exchange ideas, experiences and increase our vocab! The new version of blogging is boring and RSVP will notice the difference in their user session times which will in turn efect their advertising revenue.

Intersting post Aliane - I imagine western dating would be quite the shock to someone used to the more subtle eastern version

Posted by: impossiblebean at March 14, 2008 5:14 PM

Arvo to all,
in answer to some below who are wondering what has happened to the blogs- I emailed them and asked and the reply was that due to some people's behaviour all comments will now be moderated.I feel that if that is so then all continuity and sequence will be lost and the blogs no longer become a conversation between people when ones posting does not appear for hours or till even the next day.I'll return when it improves.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 14, 2008 5:02 PM

Aliane,
Thank you for the most insightfull post, it ranks with the best I have read since being involved with RSVP, this is what the site should be about.
Respectfully OG.

Posted by: oldergent at March 14, 2008 4:50 PM

At least one of my earlier posts did not get through.

I had asked that moderators worked the afternoon shift, say 4pm to 12.00midnight

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 4:48 PM

testing again and again. What is going on?

Posted by: jenniferhi at March 14, 2008 4:00 PM

Body language, yes, very helpful to determined actions speak more louder than words. Even how nervous they are, would shows some clues. Still can't relied 100% on body language, Who knows they are will expertize serial daters, Or professional Oscar awards winners for being best actors/actresses. Especially when they got interest to pretend to win them.

I have had hugely experiences observation during meeting guys. Curiosity sake, how they start courting, As of me Asian, I was brought-up different courtship tradition, between Asian Men & Western Men...Courtship in Asian Men are attentive, slowly and lots of patience, if they like a woman they will put-on effort with respect, gift, dinner, flowers, taking her out in special treatment-spending quality time far from thinking "Leg Opener purpose" Asians men in traditional courtship are unpredictable, more on body action than words of mouth, sometime tricky to misunderstood either they wants only friendship or serious relationship, they take time self-evaluation, checking on good qualities on Asians women, more on using mind readers and body language to get the signal. Asians Men using many forms of courtship techniques to get women attention, they won't say yes or no... " Maybe" is always their answers in courting...whilst unsure of their intention. They are cheeky and playful and smart. But once they are serious with their woman's choices, Asian men never give-up easily. Patience and Plenty Time given, same things in relationship.

Western Men my observation and comparison are quite different, They are broad-minded, upfront, fast-forward, quick decision making and direct to the point, out of timing proposal and easy to talk, only two words..between "Yes or No"...they won't think twice if they like woman go for it, No question ask, (everything can talks later-on ), if didn't work exactly Western men expected,..they easily walk-out of doors without second thoughts. Western men if they are in-love, are Die-Hard to " woo " to stay-on relationship seriously are more less playful when they are in-love...comparison to counterpart with Asian men.
Western Men are more devoted in Relationship majority. the same in Asian Women to hold the relationship to stay-on think hundred times before finalized the relationship finished. quite different from minority in western women which I don't know....(pls no offence)

This is the reason I was hardly recognized to applied in my decision making. I think I will use both diplomacy both mind readers and body language. Oh more on my heart desire...:)

Posted by: aliane at March 14, 2008 3:55 PM

I think some of the posts are missing or perhaps it's just me being censored from others comments? Seems odd, i thought we were all adults.

My body language if I was sitting across from RSVP Blog Central would not be good at this point.

Posted by: impossiblebean at March 14, 2008 3:28 PM

Hi all. And leave Jamie alone.

Justsaying's 6.50pm post was the last that was checked and OKed before moderator clock-off time last night. In my midnight post I actually congratulated him on his timing.

Then Marcus and Virgil just missed out, and so did all the half-dozen following posts last night, including mine just after midnight, and Riversong's just after mine. No favoritism, when you look at the actual evidence.

And to those who've agreed with justsaying's critisisms of my attitude to feeding your date grog (or speed or a Mickey Finn - let's not be druggist here), in the hope she/he (let's not be sexist here either) would then be less determinedly opposed to closer physical proximity (at any erogenous zone, please - I'm mastophilic in the first place, myself) I say, read my post last midnight. For content. Not legopener friends, legpuller.

Cheers dears, as the bloke on Brisbane Wrinkly Radio just said, when he handed over to the jazz bloke.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 2:43 PM

Hmm my takes on body language. Well after recently meeting someone on RSVP (the first person, I have not been on here for long) I can honestly say that body language is very important. I picked up on so many lies. Do men think women (some women) are stupid? Lying is not how to get nor keep a woman. Women want men for who they truly are - not for how men think women want them. We want you for what you have now, not what you think you should have to impress us. Body language is important, as is telling the truth....!

Posted by: sophisticated68 at March 14, 2008 2:18 PM

On body Language.
Given that it is the woman who choses or vetos a man's advances, passively aggressive Blondy in the photo probably needs to examine her processes.
So do RSVP for putting up a trite, stunt shot topic photo that attempts to make the male look a buffoon.

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 14, 2008 1:24 PM

Maybe RSVP have gone back to moderating as they did a while back because of disagreeemnts that were frequently happening....
Dunno really, but you are right WnW they will die at this rate.....
.And keeping on topic, l think that body language goes hand in hand with instinct,, just my thought on that one..............K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 14, 2008 11:21 AM

Its times like this that remind me why I dont like cricket.

Not having that interest, frees up my heart and mind, to concentrate solely on my partner October to April,

What about the seven habits of successful people. I think one of them mentioned the concept of an emotional bank account.

This would be where one built up credits during the summer months, to be used during the winter when off at SUBI or AAMI watching footy, or home having a few beers watching the away games.

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 10:27 AM

to follow a line of thinking, I wonder if younger women choose older men, because those older men have learned from experience mostly, what doesn't work with women.

What would I do differently if I was the bloke in the above picture?
1 Have a shower and change into nice going out type clothes
2. get the girl a drink (not a leg opener) maybe a herbal tea (make myself a herbal tea and put the unopened beer back in the fridge.
3. ask her about her day
4. put the lamp on the floor, and move the table into the middle so she can put the popcorn and the remote on the table while she drinks her herbal tea.

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 10:20 AM

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 12:09 AM,
>"(Jamie - happy for that last para to fall off the back of the truck - I guess it's really to you, rather than to them, isn't it? Nice quick posts turnaround today - keep up the good work, mate.)"

Is timewarp1 the only one privileged to have his blogs posted immediately (and ad infinitum)?

Posted by: justsaying at March 14, 2008 10:03 AM

1) You say "opner is spelt as opener." So did iaminperth, and in this context I thought it was very crass of you both.

Maybe my education is a bit lacking here, so TW please explain how a spelling mistake can be taken as a "crass" comment?

The use of the term leg opener has been around, I think, as long as men have realised (a) some women tend to prefer different drinks to beer (b) womens inhibitions are less after a few drinks of their choice.

When I was a child, I would be able to have a raspberry drink in the beer garden, women would drink shandies which is a mix of beer and lemonade.

I have found the best leg opener to be treating a woman like she deserves, as an equal in all respects, doing my share of the domestic duties, and like she really matters to me.

This realisation came after many times of finding out what didn't work.

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 9:36 AM

As we have concentrated on the picture, as it is so emotive and speaks to us maybe a topic would be better discussed without the picture.

Can RSVP supply us with a moderator till Midnight? Evenings are when most prople are home and would like to be using this.

Posted by: virgil at March 14, 2008 9:20 AM

justsaying @ 6.50pm...

Good call...

TW: "Socially inept males who rely on the relaxant qualities of intoxicants or other administered drugs to cause females to be more comfortable about a quick pash at her front door are drug pushers......"

followed by a.. recipe for a "leg opener".. ???

Hmmmm.. sounds a little.. contradictory, perhaps?

(btw, JS, the commonly accepted spelling is 'spelled', except in the UK where 'spelt' is also in common usage)

..TW & other proponents of the expression..
'leg opener' is an unattractive term to most, whether it's spelled correctly or not.

Posted by: decoratress at March 14, 2008 8:34 AM

I can cruise through a shift completely on body language.

Means I actually don’t have to awake from slumbering whilst on my feet.

But you should have seen Sly, the head bodyguard that accompanied Benny Hinn out to Australia.

A huge 400 kg Negro ex GridIron player, a walking man mountain. My pin up boy!!!

Probably got some Delilah back in the States giving him as much trouble as the blonde bimbo in the photo seems about to unleash on the bogan

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 14, 2008 7:18 AM

Spot on mischievously: once we learn to read it, the body language is so much more reliable than the words, which we often seem so hung up about.

The best lessons I learnt from my ex - I'm really good at spotting people lying now! It's harder on the phone, much worse on email, and impossible in sms! If you want to see directly, save the tricky questions for face-to-face :)

Posted by: riversong1 at March 14, 2008 12:16 AM

Justsaying @ 6.50pm: I'd like to congratulate you on several things:

1) Joining the league of caped crusaders/ determined detectives/ masked marauders/ sneaky snipers who ambush us visible bloggers from behind a concealed profile.

People like me need people like you, to make sure we keep our feet on the ground, and our wits about us.

2) Having the determination, staying power and attention span to track me implacably from blog to blog while collecting evidence, so that you could draw attention to the patent inconsistency between my various public statements,

4) Presenting your prosecuting case so convincingly, and

5) Guessing when Jamie would be clocking off tonight, and posting just in time to get yours through at the very last minute, while I was distracted by an old friend (85) and a red on her verandah.

I hope I will be allowed a right of reply to this damning condemnation. Please Jamie, in the interests of justice? I'll be moderate all by myself! Promise!

So let's look at what you were JustSaying at 6.50pm, and for those with shorter attention spans, I'll try to condense your case against me.

1) You say "opner is spelt as opener." So did iaminperth, and in this context I thought it was very crass of you both.

The original authentic spelling that I use is PG if not PC, but I'd class your spelling as MA+. Unnecessarily graphic for a decorous site like RSVP, don't you think?

2) My 2.19pm post yesterday to G was a mini-essay in the field of social history. I gave her the standard recipe of the day, taught me by my aunt, who had been the first female sergeant in the Australian Army, and later, an officer. (Spot on, JenJen, yesterday arvo. Or was it cousin Kaz? A good idea doesn't care who has it.)

And I can't remember every single thing at my age, as you so rightly JustSaid at 6.50pm tonight. I may be heading for 65, but I'm coming from 72.)

My aunt had also told me how to camouflage the gin in the Pimms No.1, If and when strategically desireable. But as it happened, I'd never actually needed to.

As a sneaky sniper in these blogs, JustSaying, you understand perfectly the unfair advantage you get from camouflage, and IMHO, you are acting hyprocritically when condemning it in others.

3) MY apparent hypocrisy in taking different sides to the argument in my two posts is easy to explain:

The first time I was just replying to G's request for information, but the second time I was responding to two things - the new tighter censorship, and iaminperth's attack on me/my perceived values, based on her characteristic critical-parent point of view. ('Games People Play' by Dr Eric Berne)

I was just having fun with words - seeing how blatantly I could overstate her case, without it sounding silly rather than pontifical.

Irony son, not inconsistency. Thought you'd have the delicacy of touch to see that, if nobody else did.

4) As to my "true conversationalist" piece at 12.39pm today, this was also written tongue-in-cheek, and the last sentence was obviously an enormous baited hook.

I thought you'd see that too, so you've disappointed me today. But I enjoyed our skirmish, all the same.

And we gotta keep enough life in the blogs to make them worth the newbies reading, haven't we?

(Jamie - happy for that last para to fall off the back of the truck - I guess it's really to you, rather than to them, isn't it? Nice quick posts turnaround today - keep up the good work, mate.)

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 14, 2008 12:09 AM

auntykaz ... it's definitely not a volleyball. No question of that. Maybe it's a mask and not a ball at all?

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 9:45 PM

Re our new topic Body Language.
He looks depressed and she looks as if she's thinking; "How much longer do I have to ignore him before he gets the hint and goes home?
Maybe it's not the remote, maybe it's a can of capsicum spray just in case he doesn't get the hint and actually thinks he's in with a chance?
(Sorry if this repeats itself: I seem to suddenly need permission to post!)

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 13, 2008 9:24 PM

Re our new topic Body Language.
He looks depressed and she looks as if she's thinking; "How much longer do I have to ignore him before he gets the hint and goes home?
Maybe it's not the remote, maybe it's a can of capsicum spray just in case he doesn't get the hint and actually thinks he's in with a chance?

Posted by: amberlight58 at March 13, 2008 9:17 PM

Marcus,
With left leg over right it is very hard for her foot to point in any other direction, without a lot of discomfort, I was taught that in that situation she would feel more vunerable with right over left. The push me pull me theory.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 13, 2008 8:10 PM

Jen 57,
If memory serves me right I think that was one of the later ones, Not sure but there were 7 or 8, but the first was by him alone.

Hi lynath, standard proceedure, excect the male way was to get out open her door, walk her to the front gate wish her good night politely and get the hell out of there.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 13, 2008 7:59 PM

Another "terrific" topic. At least they're changing them quicker now :) Body language...you may be giving off the signals but can the other person read them? Remember to many it's a foreign langauge!!!

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at March 13, 2008 7:35 PM

wondering what tonight will bring here

nothing so good as a cool change, buut a few comments getting through would be much appreciated.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 7:24 PM

Dont worry about Warped.
He is the true Renaissance Man.
Or the Kharma Sutra man with so many positions and a champagne glass.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 13, 2008 7:08 PM

Lynathdeary
It is certainly a dangerous world you inhabit if you have to perfect the double feint and door decoy move because of the implicit danger all men conceal. I reckon on a date or meeting with you the bloke would be running a high risk: of fatal boredom. Haha

Perhaps the situation above is not as it seems and the lovely Karina has thrown us a curve ball (not the styled gridiron football Rastus has). He is her lover, she is dominant, and they have just had a blue; over the remote.
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 13, 2008 7:02 PM

Morphed into a new topic and perhaps Warped again??

Our "true conversationalist" timewarp1 at March 13, 2008 12:39 PM has been so helpful yet again, with his sage advice on "Body Language" and his

>"...at least make a sympathetic grunt like "uh huh".

But at least timewarp1 admits to,
> "getting forgetful".

Would that be why the discrepancy in timewarp's views on the now closed topic The Silliest Question on Earth"?

-------------------------------------------------------

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 12, 2008 8:11 PM on "The Silliest Question on Earth"

>"3) Socially inept males who rely on the relaxant qualities of intoxicants or other administered drugs to cause females to be more comfortable about a quick pash at her front door are drug pushers, and everyone on a wholesome, contention-avoiding site like this is bound to agree with your values."

and yet, strangely enough almost 6 hours earlier:

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 12, 2008 2:19 PM,

>"aMDOING IT @ 12.44pm: Yess - Pimms No 1 legopner always taken as a long drink.

>My recipe 1 shot Pimms in a very long glass, 1 cubic inch/2 blocks ice, dash of Angostura bitters (still in fridge door today after 3 house moves), equal parts lemonade and ginger ale - strip of cucumber peel and marashino cherry.

>Also disguised/camouflaged with half-slices of lemon, lime and orange, if being administered with evil intent.

>Champers No 2, of course."

By the way, warped, "opner' is spelt as opener.

Hey, and speaking of an opener, this is a novel idea: why not try respect when pursuing the opposite sex?

Or would that be "the silliest question on earth?"

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As for "Body Language" -Allan Pease does it so well.

Simply "grunting," even with a disguised Pimms, just doesn't cut it anymore in this day and age.

Posted by: justsaying at March 13, 2008 6:50 PM

Kazzalee.
If its really bad lying there you can always get on top and drive you know.
It's comments like that that give men performance anxiety.

Part of the woman's body language repetoire is a bit contradictory.
She is 'pointing' at him with her leg cross. Total passive aggressive rejection would probably see the right leg over. And the cross and toe angle out not in.
Perhaps it is her place and Rastus is appalled by the decor, and lack of reading material. and wondering how they will get comfortable on a couch with such high arm rests. He hasn't even necked his beer
Cheers Marcus

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 13, 2008 6:43 PM

This is easy............both stuck there by Araldite. Both look like winners ;)

Posted by: hermanhesse at March 13, 2008 6:41 PM

Well l think he is holding a volleyball....WnW what you reckon seeing as you play??.............K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 13, 2008 6:33 PM

Misschievously, read your post 2.37
If you want someone to leave your office or desk if they are annoying you or overstaying at work , the trick is to stand up and make a move towards the door, or away from your desk to wherever direction you want the person to go. If necessary keep walking and talking until they are outside your office. The person will mirror your actions.You can then say must get on with work and then close the door or sit down with your back to the person and start work.They won't know what hit them and no feelings hurt.
So if you want him out of the car, open the door and get out. He will too. Thenyou can quickly say goodbye, get back in and leave.
If you were feeling uneasy for your safety(intuition at work) you could get out ,and lock the doors when he is also out, then before he had a chance to come around just open your side with the key if you don't have any isolation on the central locking, get back in and leave.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at March 13, 2008 6:30 PM

On close inspection you will notice that he hasn't actually got his hand on her shoulder. He's got a hold of his orange jacket which he is considering putting on and getting outta there.

Why such a horrible couloured jacket? Such mysteries are left for photographers to know and for us to ponder :)

No she will not notice that he has left :)

Posted by: boyfriendmaterial at March 13, 2008 6:30 PM

Maybe they're just waiting for a 3 minute commercial to come on?

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 6:29 PM

welcome kazzalee 87

a few weeks ago OG had his 13yo granddaughter here.
You are the same age as my daughter.

talking of going to the big smoke I suppose you mean Perth, and I guess its strange thinking of Perth like that.

Best wishes on your move.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 6:22 PM

Misschievously, read your post 2.37
If you want someone to leave your office or desk if they are annoying you or overstaying at work , the trick is to stand up and make a move towards the door, or away from your desk to wherever direction you want the person to go. If necessary keep walking and talking until they are outside your office. The person will mirror your actions.You can then say must get on with work and then close the door or sit down with your back to the person and start work.They won't know what hit them and no feelings hurt.
So if you want him out of the car, open the door and get out. He will too. Then you can quickly say goodbye, get back in and leave.
If you were feeling uneasy for your safety(intuition at work) you could get out ,and lock the doors when he is also out, then before he had a chance to come around just open your side with the key if you don't have any isolation on the central locking, get back in and leave.
ps sorry if this posts multiple times..computer woes.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at March 13, 2008 6:20 PM

Misschievously, read your post 2.37
If you want someone to leave your office or desk if they are annoying you or overstaying at work , the trick is to stand up and make a move towards the door, or away from your desk to wherever direction you want the person to go. If necessary keep walking and talking until they are outside your office. The person will mirror your actions.You can then say must get on with work and then close the door or sit down with your back to the person and start work.They won't know what hit them and no feelings hurt.
So if you want him out of the car, open the door and get out. He will too. Thenyou can quickly say goodbye, get back in and leave.
If you were feeling uneasy for your safety(intuition at work) you could get out ,and lock the doors when he is also out, then before he had a chance to come around just open your side with the key if you don't have any isolation on the central locking, get back in and leave.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at March 13, 2008 6:18 PM

They are watching a video clip he put the tele, in an attempt to induce her to join him in his miserable way of life, and for her to stop hitting the Gold Coast yachting social circle.

And she is about to switch it off with the hand on the remote.

If the shot were a minute later, he would actually be singing along to:

�Well he's the king of fashion in his neighborhood,
With his ripped blue jeans and a flannelette shirt.
A well kept mullet and a packet of smokes,
His mates will all tell ya he's a real top bloke.
His real name is Barry, but his mates call him Bazza.
And his girlfriend's name is Sharon (well I think the one in the photo is a Kylie)
but ya just call her Shazza.
Real top Sheila, real top sort,
She'll even change your stubby while you�re watching sport.

But don't victimize him for his way of life,
He's sick and tired of hearing people say...

Nobody likes, nobody likes, nobody likes a bogan.
Nobody likes, nobody likes, nobody likes a bogan.

He drives a VK Commodore with alloy wheels,
With a home made spoiler made of crappy steel.
Pair of fluffy dice and all the other toys,
But his No Fear sticker is his pride and joy.
Saturday night the boys hit town.
Yeah they're cruising the streets with their windows down.
Put on some Barnsey and they're on their way,
You'll hear the car com'n from a mile away.

Nobody likes hush puppies,
Nobody likes the beard,
Nobody likes the footy,
Nobody likes his hair do (what hair, let alone do),
Because nobody, yes nobody, especially Kylie,
LOVES� I think his name might be Gary, not Bazza, just Gaz.
Or was that Gassy Gaz.
Judging by the distance betwixt and between he may have let one go.
�Don�y worry Luv. It�ll die down in a minute.�

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 13, 2008 6:12 PM

Hope the blogs dont go to bed at 6.38 like last night

(hint Hint) we stay up till midnight here at Chardy Lodge- the retirement home for those of us who would rather burn out than rust.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 6:11 PM

Timewarp, Allan and Barbara Pease wrote a very good Body Language book called "How to be a People Magnet". Is that the one you are thinking of ?

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 13, 2008 5:40 PM

its a pretty small basketball if that what it is! i reckon its a footy. i reckon they might already be married, only by the way he's got his hand on her shoulder and the way hes just chuckin a squat a fair distance from her, if it was a first date, you'd try and get as close as possible, but then again, movie at home? stop being so cheap and go out to the movies! having said that, maybe they have already been out and shes invited him back to hers, if thats the case, dont turn the bloody telle on! Thats not romantic, its a one-way ticket to the friends zone!

Posted by: kazzalee87 at March 13, 2008 5:26 PM

yeah i read that article as well and i reckon i have to agree! especially when the guys really bad, you're just lying there thinking, hurry up and finish so you can get the hell of me! haha. But even when its good, you dont want it to go on forever, too much of a good thing isnt always good, there's nothing wrong with having 10 minute sessions, just means you can do it more times in one night!

Posted by: kazzalee87 at March 13, 2008 5:17 PM

Virg, 13 minutes the best! Why are these young people always in such a rush, maybe they are not reading the body language right.
On blog, allright, lol
Cheers Marcus, Fish, TW, W,V, and all the other new blokes on the site blogging, Glad to see you evening up the numbers, welcome. OG (also the ones not mentioned)

Posted by: oldergent at March 13, 2008 5:17 PM

I think they are looking at you lot. what does that tell you?

Posted by: oohlala1 at March 13, 2008 5:15 PM

Strike me TW, that was a long time ago, he was the hottest thing in the car game (probably still is)
Something about "Body Language, how to read others gestures" He called it in his lectures "The silent Language" The only other completly enjoyable sales lesson I ever attended was. John Clease, Fawlty Towers with a message, an absolute ball the whole series and never forgotten. I still answer the phone properly. (am I right)

Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 13, 2008 4:58 PM

Don't worry, his Mephistophelian facial hair style crime will be matched by her complete lack of it somewhere else.
Why are blokes almost always the butt of these bad taste jokes? If the roles were reversed how loud would the femmo howls be I wonder?
Three minutes is more than adequate if you need a quick cleanout ;-)
Cheers MS

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 13, 2008 4:57 PM

Uh, guys it's only a picture...........K

Posted by: auntykaz at March 13, 2008 4:50 PM

Vigil....orange object, could be cushion behind his head. ASX, badly 10 days in a row, traders money fulled-out, mostly can't moved, worse hit wall street, oil barrel, mortgage interest another hike. housing market too bad while housing leases shortage. commodities prices sky rocket, global market in chaos. Reduce expenses is necessary...tight-budget needed.

Posted by: aliane at March 13, 2008 4:50 PM

virgil - maybe it means three minutes is adequate for discussing where to do it and seven to thirteen minutes is enough time to get there?

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 4:21 PM

If they keep checking their watch , can't actually look at you when they are talking or couldn't be bothered removing their gum from their mouth,then I would call it a day.

Posted by: blueeyes1955 at March 13, 2008 4:21 PM

Pause your cursor over the photo and see the title of the archive photo file.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 13, 2008 4:19 PM

notgodsgift - come on, I'm sure there are a couple of other signals you recognise too.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 4:18 PM

The orange thing appears to be his jacket.He is about to take his ball and go home.She is holding all the cards,the remote and the popcorn(probably watching the shawshank redemption intently)and not about to share anything.Why did she ask him over anyway?He is just not her type!!!

Posted by: abckenny at March 13, 2008 4:10 PM

last post timestamped an hour ago (2.50Melb Time) now 3.21 Adelaide time.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 3:53 PM

Major study says three minutes is "adequate" for sex but seven to 13 minutes is best.

copied from RSVP main site ad at bottom of page, for a newspaper.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 3:49 PM

I wonder what the photographer was trying to show here.

Probably mismatch overkill.
living lives of quiet desperation maybe married?

Wonder who is the villain here.

ASX having another bad day down 130 points. Wouldnt worry either of these 2 though

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 3:41 PM

How did these 2 get past the first coffee?

Actors, Chris Judd & Rebecca Twiggly?

Beard but no mo? hmm OG sounds like you are onto something there.

That orange thing is a basketball glove? ok I wondered what it was.

I wonder if the blogs will close at 6.38 Melbourne time tonight like last night.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 3:34 PM

I just love communication - if only I was good at it :)

What I meant was - I meet with a really nice lady. We have a great time chatting. All the body language looks great including eye contact and touching stuff. She's a nice lady after all and very social, kind and considerate. So things look great but....sadly we can only be friends because the 'chemistry' just isn't there.

Maybe body language just isn't everything? Maybe all it tells you is that the other person likes you? Or at least doesn't dislike you :)

Posted by: boyfriendmaterial at March 13, 2008 3:13 PM

What is the name of Alan Pease's excellent book on body language? Can you remember, Robert?

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 13, 2008 3:04 PM

He's got no chance,
1-she's sitting as far away as possible,shying away from his hand.
2-She's the boss,in total control - not sharing popcorn or the remote( it's in her right. hand, possible weapon ??)
3-legs well & truely crossed ( no go zone)
4-not cap,possible icepac ??10.10 p.m.had a couple of beers still drinking 1, cause he nows he's got no-chance.
5-watching tv,not interested in him,foots pointing to the front door, hoping he'll use it.
NOW THATS NEGATIVE

Posted by: garrcoast at March 13, 2008 3:00 PM

could be my mirror blog-reflection on dating posting games language...hehehe

Posted by: aliane at March 13, 2008 2:59 PM

Hi all,

Body language....got me there....I can read it when not involved myself .....but when its me, absolutely no clues whatsoever!! If a woman were trying to send out signals to me she is wasting her time.....the only one I understand is when they are running out thye door!!!

Bob

Posted by: notgodsgift at March 13, 2008 2:58 PM

Virgil....picture's shows clearly...yes in her parents place, he came by from playing basketball, while his hand touche & cherish, his not interested in TV, his mindset playing different angle's...she's heated the pop-corn in microwave's sitting quietly changing channel with remote control, she's bored...No excitement in there, See the body-language one sided affairs....maybe at .."war". hehehe.

Posted by: aliane at March 13, 2008 2:50 PM

Virg,
Obviously a posed shot, his indication is that he is open to any advance, expressing his manhood and the touch is testing the waters,he is not much of a thinker with the football, his lack of a moustcache, usually indicates he is not an aggressive or warlike person (mentioned in the school, not in the book) considers himself more of a lover (I do like his haircut thought, very swish lol).

She is showing ever incication that a woman (that his attentions are not welcome)can give apart from a smack in the face or getting up and walking away. She has swung her left leg over the right to get it as far away as possible from him, though not shown her left arm would be across her chest, whatever she is holding is strategically placed to protect the obvious, and she is holding the phone in the only hand she can strike with, if need be. I dont think I would be wrong to say the touch from him would have resulted in her tightening her shoulder muscles and moving it away from his touch. This is without looking at her face first which should be the quickest indication that his advances are not welcome. Just my observations on blog if it is posted.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 13, 2008 2:40 PM

It has to be 10.10pm, because the table lamp is on, and he's holding something up to stop the lamplight reflecting off his solar panel into her eyes.

She's crossed left over right - when he wants some corn to land his beer on, she'll take it and the remote away to the armchair off left, just out of frame.

Or if his tentative hand actually touches her.

Next slide for evaluation!

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 13, 2008 2:37 PM

How's this for body language.

Now, don't laugh at me here, I know how ridiculous it sounds.

I drove a date home one evening and parked outside his premises. I left the car running, assuming after the polite thanks and goodbyes he'd quickly depart. I knew that I wasn't interested in anything further, and assumed he would have felt similarly.

Not only did he not make a quick departure, he sat there for, I kid you not, 2 hrs with my car still running for a good part of that time.

I started to get nervous when he clearly wasn't interested in leaving. What to do? My response, start talking (or rather rambling). I think he mistook my rambling as a sign of interest and so he stuck around. I don't know though, surely the running car was a sign to leave, right?

A lesson well learnt.

"Thank you for a lovely time, goodbye!" and then keep my mouth shut!

Posted by: misschievously at March 13, 2008 2:37 PM

But virgil .... his hand isn't on her shoulder, it's in that huge glove. He's ready to watch sport ... glove on one hand, ball in the other, beer at the ready. He has his legs open (receptive), she has her legs crossed .. away from him ... and is ready to change the channel or maybe even turn the TV off.

He is anticipating a good game and she is bored and ready to move on.

It's also interesting to note they are dressed very differently ... him casually, her ready to go out.

Another thought ... it may not be the TV remote in her hand. It could be her mobile phone and she is in fact waiting for a call so she can go out (likely) or it may be the remote for the bomb she has planted under his arse.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 2:29 PM

Body language, if you can learn to read it, is more reliable than words.

"I'll call you" he says as he's eyeing off the pretty young thing across the room.

Unfortunately, some of us tend to trust the words instead.

Posted by: misschievously at March 13, 2008 2:23 PM

she has just been to the solarium for a fake tan, to go with the outfit, has her legs crossed, she is not going anywhere in a hurry, he has holes in his faded jeans, looks like a dirty t shirt, under a Clark Kent shirt, unstylishly un buttoned.

Oh mate, just go down the pub with your mates, nothing is happening there, this is an obvious mis match.

What a sad photo. :(

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 2:19 PM

Wrong.

She is saying to herself:

“10 more minutes of this photo shoot, I can dump the popcorn in the lap of whoever thought that it was suitable prop, and I am out of here and that bogan with bad breath can go back to Parramatta, spray himself, use proper deodorant next time and clean his teeth, and get rid of that disgusting facial hair and sooooo out of style hush puppies that he bought when he was 10. And if I don’t get paid for this photo shoot, I am going to scream”

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 13, 2008 2:19 PM

Couldn't agree more iaminperth, focus on the positives and not the negatives. It clearly gives you an indication of the sort of person they are.

Posted by: misschievously at March 13, 2008 2:14 PM

look how his arm is on her shouldrer, she has popcorn and the remote, he has a beer on the stand, so if its 10past 10 in the morning now wonder she looks like ice queen.
They dont have the look of a dating couple, people who look as happy as that are probably married.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 2:09 PM

He is touching her, not sure if that is a cap or a football, its 10 past 10, possibly in the morning. They have a tidy house, so most likely her parents place.
She has a super size container of popcorn, hmmmm looks like a mountain of laughs.

Hey mate grab the ball and run.

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 2:01 PM

jenjen - you should be looking into their eyes ... not at their feet.
Regarding doing a runner ... I remember being at a Red Cross desperate and dateless ball many, many years ago and when my mate got up to go to the toilet, his date asked him if he would leave his coat. When he asked why, she said so she would know that he would come back. That really made me laugh.

ianinperth - that sounds terrible ... couldn't you sense the negativity from their profiles? I sometimes see negative profiles ... lists of things they don't want and think ... next please.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 2:00 PM

Actually the pic is a good lesson in body language, if you can read it. Had the opportunity to have the man do the course and had the book till I foolishly lent it to a colleague, must have misread him. You would be surprised how many sales people use it every day. It is a great aid in working the close of a sale in. I would recommend it to every one in any profession, for any occasion.
Cheers OG

Posted by: oldergent at March 13, 2008 1:59 PM

I'm not so sure on body language because most people are so uptight anyway but what I find difficult is when someone starts telling you all the things they don't like or even further can't stand. I find I have no answers at all and sit there like a dummy trying to find a spot where I can ask then what they do like. I am sure there are quite a few things that I don't particularly like but I don't think of them often enough to remember for precisely that reason - I don't like them. Surely it's better to think what you do like and look forward to doing things like that than rambling about what you don't like. Does that make sense to anyone...I think I have rambled a bit but I'm sure you get the drift.

Posted by: iaminperth at March 13, 2008 1:42 PM

Apparently feet will give a lot away - so if his/her feet are pointed to the door for a quick getaway then they aren't interested !!
So we must sit there watching their feet after everything we say in case they decide to do a runner :)

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 13, 2008 1:30 PM

Great header photo. Stereotyped and staged
Poor bloke is being made to look like an untouchable; an almost ridiculous no hoper.
Cheers MS

Posted by: laughsandtalks at March 13, 2008 1:24 PM

Virgil - saying hello is off topic ... you need to include some body language with your words ... try waving your hands a little for example. That way, you'll get a much better response .... it's all about impressions after all.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 1:08 PM

boyfriendmaterial - that is why you look at the body language rather than just listen to what they say.
Are they making eye contact often? What kind of eye contact?
Are they crossing their legs towards or away from you?
Are they sitting near you or do they keep their distance?
Are they touching you occasionally? What do they do if you touch them?
Just a few ideas but I'm sure other people can give you more examples.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 1:03 PM

here's to observed...

can you read my mind?
can you tell if I am playing game with you?
can we see the bright future?
can I run away or stay?
Help to identify body sign-language?

Posted by: aliane at March 13, 2008 1:02 PM

Body Language (12.42 Melb time) my morning posts have disappeared? all I said was Hullo.

Oh well :(

Posted by: virgil at March 13, 2008 12:43 PM

JenJen @10.32am: ROFLMBO. (The PG version of ROFLMAO) Bless you for taking the initiative (and the mickey) and making my day, even before lunch.

On a more sober note and in all sincerity, friends and readers, I'd like to offer you an initial piece of advice on this really valuable topic:

Especially on a first date, try to talk less than your date does.

And a second piece of advice: when you do speak, try to make sure that it is usually about one of three things:

1) Ask your date for more details about something they'd mentioned in their profile, and said that they liked.

This is almost guaranteed to get them talking so enthusiastically that their body language will be very positive and inclusive.

The amount of enthusiasm and detail in their answer will also show you how positive and loquacious they are, and this will allow you you to compare this with how much of other people's enthusiasms you like to be exposed to - a very important factor in deciding whether you want another date with this enthuser.

If you have sent them the initial kiss, you will probably be fairly interested in what they are saying, because you're sizing them up. So your body language is fairly likely to mirror theirs - the desired response in any listener.

But if they sent the first kiss, it may be a bit more difficult to be as interested, and you may have to keep your mirroring under conscious control, instead of leaving it on autopilot.

A note about the questions you will be asking: it is generally agreed that bringing a printout of their profile to the date and consulting it frequently is not a good idea.

They can get worried that you are actually comparing their 2D profile photos with the sometimes-VERY-much-more-up-to-date 3D version sitting across the table, and this can sometimes turn their enthusiasm into guilt, which has very negative results for their body language. And their credibility, iaminperth.

But if you're as old as I am (72 not out) and getting forgetful, and it's a restaurant where you bring a lot of your first dates, you may be able to arrange for a teleprompter to be wheeled up behind her chair (not so close as to be obvious, of course.)

2) When they stop talking about their selected enthusiasm to take a breath, say something empathic, or at least make a sympathetic grunt like "uh huh".

3) And when they really run out of breath, tell them something positive about your attitude to that enthusiasm of theirs.

Remember that the date is only to let you find out enough about them, to let you decide whether or not you want another date. And in either case, to give them the delightful experience of dining at least once with a true conversationalist.

Posted by: timewarp1 at March 13, 2008 12:39 PM

Woodnwine....here's another body language works....and silliest question...

Will you promise to stop in time?.....Promises can be broken...
Will I see you again.....read my lips...
Will you still respect me....sees my handwritten body language...

Posted by: aliane at March 13, 2008 12:37 PM

ahh WnW but how can you tell if the person you have just met is interested in you or if they are just a really nice, friendly, easy to get on with person? And maybe they just like you fine as a friend and someone to chat with but the all important 'chemistry' just isn't there?

Posted by: boyfriendmaterial at March 13, 2008 12:19 PM

I think it's important to be aware of the other person's body language during a meeting or date. It can certainly let you know if they are interested rather than just being polite.

Posted by: woodnwine at March 13, 2008 11:59 AM

alterscheiber.....body language...hands-sign language....eyes talking popping. too hot-humid, mysteries involved.
Romance Impulse
Love...were do I begin to tell my stories?

Posted by: aliane at March 13, 2008 11:49 AM

On topic.. Body language can tell a lot about a person when you first meet but you can't really go by it alone to form judgement.
Some people are nervous and others shy until you get to know them .
Confidence is good but I'm always a little wary of anyone who comes on too strong or brags about themselves too much.

Cheers..."G"

Posted by: amdoingit at March 13, 2008 11:37 AM

If that girl in the photo sat any further away from him, maybe she might fall off the couch.

Which reminds me of one Mum who explained her daughter's unexplained pregnancy by telling everyone:

"Well. They were sitting on the couch one night watching TV, and they fell off, and that's how it happened."

Novel explanation, to say the least.

Posted by: alterscheiber at March 13, 2008 11:24 AM

Hi, Virgil - well, I am here anyway - catching up with some posts I haven't read for a couple of days. I've heard posting in real time doesn't seem to be happening any more - I'll give it a go and see!

Re the topic: my belief on body language is that it's more a subconcious thing you're picking up on, rather than a conscious "ah, he's leaning forward, that's a good sign" etc, sort of running commentary in the head. All the "signals" get picked up very quickly, far quicker than the conscious mind could assimilate, although I suppose some particularly obvious ones might stand out a bit.

Posted by: malsie at March 13, 2008 11:09 AM

On his doctors advice, a manager has to take on some sport for more exercise. He decides to play tennis. After a couple of weeks his secretary asks him how he's doing.

It's going fine", the manager says, "When I'm on the court and I see the ball speeding towards me my brain immediately says: To the corner! Back hand! To the net! Smash! Go back!".

"Really? What happens then?", the girl asks enthusiasticly.

"Then my body says: Who? Me? Don't talk nonsense!".

Posted by: jenjen57 at March 13, 2008 10:32 AM