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Posted by: rsvpproducttest at December 10, 2007 9:05 AM

Thanks jenjen57, see I am a romantic ,passionate guy after all. :-) Imanenigma

Posted by: imanenigma at December 9, 2007 8:49 PM

imanenigma

What a lovely saying.........

I see the costs in time and money of the "looking" now as being the equivalent of how I did things in the 70's.....expensive and endless nights at hotels and parties trying to find Mr Right !! If we are seriously looking for a long term relationship then we are probably investing similar in time and money, just employing different methods.

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 9, 2007 8:41 PM

Listen to the man Jovial!

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 9, 2007 8:00 PM

@ grace & charm- I'm not saying that going on dates is expensive or a waste of time, whatever the outcome, unless of course you have been completely mislead or deceived by someone and that hasn't really happened to me yet. As we have read here a first date/meeting (usually coffee/drink) doesn't have to be expensive and I dont feel the need to impress someone with a five star all the bells & whistles type restaurant to try and charm a girl. If there is chemistry, romance can be found anywhere, a barmy evening in the bow of a city cat(ferry), a quiet cafe/restaurant, a stroll somewhere etc the possibilities are endless. I am just posing the question, is the cost of the dates themselves the least expensive component of being single and is the looking and finding someone to date , where the real cost in time & money to be found? E.G time on computer,stamps,dating agencies,personal ads, joining fee's if any....that sort of thing?....I'm not worried myself or I wouldnt be doing it , just throwing it out there for discussion...or not. I am a firm believer in the saying... "love is like money,its potential is only realised when you give it to someone else" -William aka Imanenigma.

Posted by: imanenigma at December 9, 2007 7:59 PM

Yes,a man,not a boy thanks. I already have a little boy at home.

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 9, 2007 7:39 PM

I AM the boy next door (at least that's what the neighbors say)

Posted by: jovial67 at December 9, 2007 7:25 PM

Yes, I think when all is said and done,he is just a meany greenie afterall perhaps??

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 9, 2007 7:25 PM

Friend or lover or both lover and friend.
Who can judge what we are or not. Only time will tell. But whatever course you take, be assured just like the Titanic, claims will be made that are not substaniated will only sink it all. Lives will be lost and only a few will survive. But hey if you can have your cake and eat it too. Why not. Just don't stuff yourself in the process or the other for that matter.
All up thou be honest.

Posted by: youanmi1965 at December 9, 2007 6:53 PM

Femalepersuasion: transfers please...

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 9, 2007 6:25 PM

That's the spirit Mr Jovial !!

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 9, 2007 5:45 PM

graceandcharms: Perhaps I could make an exception to my limited search radius in your case. Even a greenie cane toad luvn' Queenslander knows a good woman when he sees her.

Femalepersuasion: Please arrange for the transfers at the airport. Oh, and plant a few trees on my behalf to offset the carbon emissions! :)

Posted by: jovial67 at December 9, 2007 5:02 PM

Lynath, Believe me, you would not want it back...let him keep it..I will never be able to look at a Santa Hat the same way again!

On topic now: Dates don't have to be expensive...and Woodnwine was right. You work it out somehow, or don't see them again. I don't expect to be wined and dined expensively. I'm happy to get to know someone over pub meals or picnics n walks.

Posted by: istj54 at December 9, 2007 3:15 PM

hermanhesse

Not a bad idea at all...........the powers that be certainly need to do something to broaden our kiss/kiss response options.

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 9, 2007 3:01 PM

RE: Kisses.

If RSVP created a rating subset of 1 to 5 for each of the kisses it would help clarify what the intent of the kiss was. For example, a 1 togehter with "l like you photo" would mean it is a nice photo whilst a 5 with " I like your photo" would mean wow i really like your looks, are you interested.

This would allow more humane kiss responses to be sent by males and females. It would also reduce the wastage of a ticket on someone who has accidently misunderstood your intent (or hit the wrong choice button) as he or she would also have to use the 1 to 5 weighting subset.

I assume that most of us are here to find an acceptable companion and glean a little fun from blogging.

Posted by: hermanhesse at December 9, 2007 2:52 PM

Do I have to return it after I have finished with it or do I get to keep it.

I’m talking about the photo of course. What do you think I was talking about.

norty girl

Posted by: neuroticfish at December 9, 2007 1:44 PM

Imanenigma:if I date someone and it doesn't go any further,I don't consider it a waste of time or money at all.I can honestly say I've learnt something from every man I've gone out with,and I think each date gets you closer to finding "the one" and helps you refine your search,whether it be just to say "no,not dating that type again".If nothing else I've learned so much about the various careers of men,I've learnt about the police force and post-traumatic stress disorder,the building trade,how a radio station runs,etc,etc.At our age we have all been through so much,we all have our different take on things,and I just find that in itself so interesting,even if it doesn't lead me down the lane of love!! Isn't just the experience of going somewhere pleasant with someone potentially interesting payment enough?

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 9, 2007 1:41 PM

Long distance love...wasn't that a blog back in May or June ?and I also remember Second Impressions which is now recycled as First Impressions.

Long distance love is really just a fantasy because it is never tested by day to day reality.
It depends on the type of relationship a person wants and what they need as an outcome of the relationship.
Also ages and stages probably play a part in this. eg it can work if you are not looking to settle down into the whole house and garden routine.
There are so many factors with distance that can affect the outcome.

I had a mostly long distance romance
with my exhusband.The distance fuelled the romance because of the longing to be together,along with the high sexual tension and the fantastic weekends of time always spent in some romantic place with no reality coming in to spoil it. It was very glamourous and exciting flying off to meet or sometimes driving.
The thing that kept us together was that we both had grounding in the same city, friends, relatives and growing up in similar backgrounds, but there were no other factors to interfere like houses children ex partners etc. Those things were the foundtion of the marriage later.
30 years later it is a different story and not something I would look for. The chances of being able to blend all the current factors with another person who lived a long distance away, while maintaining a job and a lifestyle family, friends aged parent etc etc etc is unrealistic.
More than about 25Km is a cause of creating a problem. Although this depends on where a person lives. 25 or 50km in a small town in a short drive. 50km across Sydney or Melbourne can mean a couple of hours in time and petrol and all the rest. Not conducive to dating at all.

imanenigma I am sure someone could put a dollar value on time spent searching. The fact remains there is no choice but the spend time searching if you hope to find a date!

I have a question too. I would like to know who pays when you go out with friends of the same sex. eg out with one girlfriend fro dinner and a movie or a bunch for lunch(haha) a men meet a mate for a drink.
Do we view this differently than dating? Why is that?
Using some theories here the person who asks should pay. Actually that was an accepted custom at one time, but doubt it these days.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 9, 2007 1:26 PM

Question folks , could the true cost of "dating" be not in the date itself, but the lost time & the effort we put into the searching for someone to go on a date with?......not complaining, just wondering......or is it just a "necessary evil" if that?........"the thinking Imanenigma"

Posted by: imanenigma at December 9, 2007 12:55 PM

Neuroticfish...lying in bed on Sunday morning showing your way and yelling "Oh, God!" not the same as finding the way of the lord in Church.

Thank goodness it's only my head on show...who knows what you would do if you got hold of my body...

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 9, 2007 12:52 PM

Thanks FemalePersuasion for offering to be my agent(way,way down on this blog).You are hired!! I've just only returned from a 2 night hen's party-fantabulous!
Jovial67,I too have mortgage,and a stingy ex who won't pay child support so I couldn't afford the airfares to see you either :( I think your 25km radius for the woman of your dreams is a bit rough though!! You really are a greeny!

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 9, 2007 12:31 PM

twoeyes

Good morning :)

Isn't google a wonderful thing ! I
posted a few things recently also very T I C and upset a few people :(

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 9, 2007 11:21 AM

Is it?

Posted by: woodnwine at December 9, 2007 11:16 AM

thelynathdiary I agree if I met with someone for the first time and I was definately not attracted or interested in on first meeting a would pay for myself.

Posted by: mstingle at December 9, 2007 10:28 AM

morning ww.......

Posted by: twoeyes at December 9, 2007 10:01 AM

This blog encourages too much squabbling - move on to a happier topic or just blog off topic. People who date can work out their own dynamic regarding paying which is appropriate to their circumstances and if both parties don't like it then a split will often happen. Just do what is appropriate for you and your partner.

Posted by: woodnwine at December 9, 2007 9:52 AM

Twoeyes with that list in your hot little hands you may never date again!!!!!

Posted by: misswendyxx at December 9, 2007 2:49 AM

well its has been awhile between drinks..........

Huh ???????? Where did that come from ? Where are all the nice ones at
no 9 ??

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 9, 2007 2:28 AM

from the nett and because there isnt a 9 or 10, i guess theres hope for some women on here. Like the composer of the first said...T I C.

and i didnt propogate the list just googled it

Posted by: twoeyes at December 9, 2007 9:41 AM

slightsynchronicity and timewarp.. interesting posts and a very good idea to start off with topic.
Naturally distance increases the cost of dating but for some there are many problems associated with long distance dating.
People with children at home could find it extremely difficult to travel and I should imagine it would be hard enough just trying to date locally. Also those with a very limited income will naturally seek someone nearby.
But to others like myself who are retired and have nothing to keep them at home, distance dating is a little easier. Don't get me wrong.. I am not rich but I would rather spend my money on travel and meeting prospective partners than on jewellery and expensive clothes. But it is becoming dearer with the price of petrol soaring.
I have travelled to almost every state in Oz and as far as Arizona USA. Met some wonderful people and had some great adventures and isn't that what life is all about?

Posted by: mushie6 at December 9, 2007 9:11 AM

The cost of dating in time could reduce if people just did not date people they should not????Like thats going to happen. Trying to stay on topic though.
Timewarp I will try to stick to your suggested layout next time, this was written before so maybe skim past.

Well done two eyes that list you posted is similar to the one I hadn't found..or the same. Rebooted computer and not sure where my sons friend has filed my jokes. LOL There was another list too..something about being overly spiritual and no earthly good. Would apply to both genders. NF that is not a dig at you BTW. Sorry timewarp but I was startled to see twoeyes matching posting appear so quickly.

The cost of dating:
Does anyone have thoughts about the cost of distance dating. Within Australia i guess. How far away have bloggers travelled? How far are they prepared to travel if they thought the other was possibly the one? I feel this is relevant as travel costs occur. We do not all meet someone in the same city...so do any bloggers have actual set in stone criteria regards how many kilometres they would travel etc. A lot of relationships have not much dating and a lot of phone conversations ect but it could be the couples courtship period. And finally having say the initial meeting then 7 or so dates...that go well...does that help sucess more than people who met once or twice then mainly have online or phone interactions. It is surely relevant to the dating cost. Long distance could inspire bursts of what could seem extravagance, so they can spend time together. If you feel its off topic just skim over. We seem to have covered general dating costs but we all have different situations and expectations.

Personally I think I would stay put in Adelaide until my youngest finishes highschool. There is accessiblity of my kids to my ex also to consider.

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 9, 2007 8:25 AM

Dear LynathDiary

You know I have a thing for beautiful women in skimpy Santa outfits.

Why don’t you just send me your photos direct.

In return I promise not to annoy you further on rsvp.

Mind you there are a few women in Melbourne who I am going to have to show the Way of the Lord to in due course.

Seems Melbourne has become a Den of Iniquity and they need my assistance urgently.

Posted by: neuroticfish at December 9, 2007 5:25 AM

Hi sunblonde, and youall too, to ask what you think of this:

I started out thinking like you that people should stick to the blog topic to the bitter end.

My free time is limited, so sometimes a new blog is already past 150 posts before I get a chance to look at it.

Catching up with them before I dare to put my own spoke in, I find that the first hundred or so posts are usually on topic, and cover most of the subject pretty well. Including some excellent stuff.

Then the BlogLords run out of ideas on the topic, and start looking for something else to talk about - anything but the terrifying cold of absolute zero conversation. Anything!

So if you come in at post 300 and don't begin by reading the first 250 posts, yes sunblonde, it's gone over the hill and is already way up the next valley but three.

The BlogLords have a lot of valuable, thought-provoking things to say about any topic. They've given me valuable new insights, and changed my mind about several things in a few brief weeks. We need them in Blogland.

So to keep everyone happy, how about this idea:

1) Be disciplined. Begin each post with something about the actual topic.

2) After work comes play: add a PS with the chat stuff.

3) When a couple of the BlogLord opinion leaders feel that the topic has been exhausted, they suggest that we all move our critical faculties and our PS companionship to another named blog, and leave this one to rot till RSVP switches it off.

What do you think?

P.S. Been on a Dabblers bus trip down past the Tweed all day, then first 4-hour dinner-and-chat date with someone gorgeous and delightful this evening, who'd sent me an initial email not kiss, and may be The One.

So no time to reply yet to thelynathdiary's nice post today - customer coming 10am, (yes, Sunday) so must hit the sack now. ciao all

Posted by: timewarp1 at December 9, 2007 3:56 AM

Jenjen party was excellent...organised by my old work mates. The people who held it had just renovated their house magnificantly. We got miles of entertainment from the "poles" that held up the balconies...i.e pole dancing!! We were pretty crap at it though.

Posted by: misswendyxx at December 9, 2007 2:53 AM

Twoeyes with that list in your hot little hands you may never date again!!!!!

Posted by: misswendyxx at December 9, 2007 2:49 AM

misswendyxx

Left them to it. Only a few left here now so safe to go to bed !! They ate a lot and drank a lot and have a few too out of it to go anywhere even in a cab !! Lucky I have a lot of floor space !! How was your party ??

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 9, 2007 2:47 AM

Hey jenjen57 I just got home. How did your son's birthday go? Or is it still going!

Posted by: misswendyxx at December 9, 2007 2:36 AM

twoeyes

Huh ???????? Where did that come from ? Where are all the nice ones at
no 9 ??

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 9, 2007 2:28 AM

twoeyes: Your last post just ruled out the entire female species! :)

Posted by: jovial67 at December 9, 2007 12:36 AM

There are women that a man should avoid dating. Here are signs to watch out for:

1. The overly feminist. This type of woman assumes and believes man is the cause of all the pains and suffering of a society. It is her strong belief that women are much more intelligent than men and are capable of doing things the correct way.

Men would not want to spend some time with these types of women, anything that a man will do will always be negative to them. They can never be pleased by a man.

2. The material girl. She is just after the money! These types of women are high maintenance. They not just expect, but often demand that a man should finance all her luxuries in life. To her, the man has the responsibility to pay for dinners, drinks, trips, jewelry, flowers etc. while she absolutely feels compulsion or guilt to reciprocate.

Simply put, she is a prostitute in disguise. She is a greedy person, having no perception of the feelings of others and her only concern is achieving and obtaining things that she wants. Never be fooled; some appear to be really nice at first, until they know that you would do anything for them. Then the asking for material things starts!

3. The hopeless romantic. These women live inside a perfect world of romance in novels, where love and relationships are perfect and her night and shining armor will always come and they will live happily ever after.
She has always been pampered by her and considered a "princess," thus have no idea that what the real life is. She will expect the man to take care of her constantly and that all her wishes be given; if not, she can turn out to be a screaming nag.

4. The angry girl. Similar to the feminist, she actually hates men. They often look down on men accounting a long list of all the injustice and transgressions of every guy that they shared a relationship with. To her, all men are "creeps", "pigs." and jerks. These women have boiling rage at men that can, at any given moment explode.

5. The insecure Miss. They will seem to be very pleasant, loving and accommodating at first, treating men very well. Later, when all her innermost insecurities go up the surface, she can be annoyingly calling the man she is dating at least ten times a day, asking where are you, or that she just missed your voice.

This woman demands frequent and persistent reassurance that you love her and you find her attractive; because of this insecurity, she worries continuously about her hair, make up, clothes etc. She can be clingy, needing constant attention and insistently torments you with her thoughts that you will leave her soon if you find someone better.

6. The abstract or elusive type. She is romantic but with a mysteriously dark side. She has been hurt in past relationships and has not gone over it. These bad experiences drive her to subconsciously stay way from or damage her new relationship.

She will be very frustrating to deal with, as at first, she will show a lot of interest with the man, however runs away very quickly; she will repeat this cycle again and again. She will date and flirt with the man, but will insist that they both remain as friends.

7. The desperate Miss. She is desperate to get married. She does not even choose to know the man; she just wants to trap him and bring him to the nearest altar!

8. The controlling type. She can be very nasty in a very subtle way, but when given the opportunity, will direct each phase of a mans life. She will always have a say as to what the man wears, where must the man go, who should the man talk to, who can a man have as friends, what a man can and can not eat; as in everything! The man can not insist on his own rights or else, there will be no sex, a lot of crying, screaming, pouting and everything just so the man will give in.

To all men, careful!

will find one about what men need to look out for, OK.

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 11:24 PM

hows this then lol

Posted by: twoeyes at December 8, 2007 11:52 PM

OK this is supposed to be tongue in cheek I am putting it in that topic cos before "the cost of dating" (cringe) occurs the parties will be looking for common ground and/or reasons to have a meeting then continue to further dates. I promise that I will find a similar one for men to know about women. This is in jest OK! And does not represent my point oof view exactly.

"10 men to avoid"
There are some men who might be fun but not suited to a serious relationship says Dr Rosie, author of Good Loving, Good Sex.

He's not into you
This is the guy who doesn't respond to you. He doesn't ring within a reasonable time, he doesn't want to spend romantic time with you and he's not affectionate. If you're doing more than 50 per cent of the work, walk away from this one.

He's prettier than you
While we'd all like to date Brad Pitt, you should avoid the metrosexual who spends more time staring in the mirror putting product in his hair than you do. Escape while he's applying his wrinkle-reducing, moisturising sunblock.

He loves sport too much
There's a fine line between a great guy who loves sport and the raging maniac who loves sport way too much. Steer clear at the first sign of extreme sport obsession, otherwise you'll be stuck watching every lame game the sports channel has to offer and feeding his burping buddies on weekends.

He's the constant critic
For this guy, nothing is good enough. You're too fat, too noisy, too stupid. He doesn't like the way you walk, talk or even breathe. He's a natural critic and speaks only from his own undeniable perfection. While he's busy looking down his nose at you, make a quick get-away.

He's damaged goods
Sure, he seems sensitive and caring when you first meet and he tells you how his heart has been broken. Then he tells you it was 10 years ago and you begin to realise that he just loves telling his sob story and he's never going to let anyone get close to him again — including you. Exit stage left.

He's married
Of course his wife doesn't understand him. Here's the bottom line — he is simply not available. No matter what he tells you, if he's still sharing bed and breakfast with his wife, move right on without giving him a second look.

He's a no-hoper
This is the guy without prospects and usually without a job or a car. You pay for everything and play chauffeur. No matter how much you give him, all he gives back is sex and a bit of guitar playing. He's looking for someone to take care of him. Is it going to be you?

He has too much baggage
He's paying maintenance to multiple ex-partners. He has difficult children, some of whom live with him. He's more than a tad bitter and will tell you all his woes. Get out before you're left holding the bag.

He can't make a decision
This guy is such a waffler he can't even decide if he wants you. He'll avoid making arrangements until the last minute, just in case something better comes along. He's always thinking about changing his career, moving house, selling up and getting away. Even when he's with you he keeps his eye open for the next good thing. This guy is essentially greedy. He wants it all and thinks he might be missing something better every moment he's with you. He doesn't need you; he needs years of intensive therapy.

He wants to be a star
When a man sets his eyes on the top of the tree, you will always come second on his list of priorities. Whether he wants to save the world, be head of the company, a politician or a brain surgeon, your needs pale in comparison. He won't have time or energy left at the end of the day for you and he'll expect you to take care of the petty details of his life so he can get on with the job of being magnificent. He won't share the spotlight, so get out before it's too late."

I will find one about what men need to look out for, OK.

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 11:24 PM

jovial67....a man who does housework well and seems quite happy about it. That is surely a good characteristic to announce. Good for you. Your kisses recieved should increase.

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 10:51 PM

jovial67: I didn't understand the cryptic message. Thanks anyway.

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 9:50 PM

babblon..........you are obviously bitter about a lot of issues and your blogs today have skyrocketed your prospects here on RSVP to -50%.

Everyone can disagree with what others are stating but your blogs are neither funny or tongue in cheek.

Posted by: hermanhesse at December 8, 2007 8:44 PM

@wishfulthinker03- I will second HC, sounds about right to me!

Posted by: imanenigma at December 8, 2007 7:58 PM

Babblon
In part I agree with you . I agree with the bit that says women pay to keep things without any sense of obligation. I do that whether I like the guy or not on a first date. Apart from the equality thing, and especially if there is no connection, I would feel really horrible if I left a guy feeling somehow used. I don't pay because I feel guilty that I had an obligation to a stranger that I will not fulfill. Obligation for what? Just because there is no romantic attraction apparent does not mean that a pleasant night out is not possible.

You have got to learn to handle rejection and don't take it so personally. You can't force someone to be attracted to you. It has nothing to do with how nice you are or what you look like or whether or not you pay,...it is something which is either their or not and finding out is the purpose of dating -to have a chance at a possible relationship. The first date is not the end of the line it is only a possible start.
It is always disappointing if you have high hopes when things don't turn out, but it takes time and courage to keep on trying before it will one day click into place.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 8, 2007 7:04 PM

misswendyxx yes I know what you mean the children were fine colouring in until I loged on this time and then they start complaining about each other then, when you type something on the blog you often make mistakes like I just did before when I typed jenjen55 instead of jenjen57

Posted by: mstingle at December 8, 2007 6:54 PM

I want the other party to enjoy themselves (Hello All) - I enjoy the other person enjoying themselves (I hope that makes sense!)

Posted by: dc051273 at December 8, 2007 6:50 PM

Oh, but you have Neuroticfish! You have gone ahead and teased me and taunted me knowing full well the tyranny of distance in more ways than geographical which stretches between us...and the thought of seeing the inside of your stockings...you very bad man...

As I said to Timewarp sometimes I do close the door(gently though) lest a cold call is followed by a more insistent approach...and I would not be guilty of leading a fish up the creek...or fishing for compliments...

Besides, to whom would I reveal the snap that is currently on show to the entire planet including anyone blocked from contact?

As a matter of fact next weekend I am wearing it again..might have a new version to go through the motions of blocking you from viewing.
I will keep you informed if you like?

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 8, 2007 6:49 PM

Who pays? It is easy if you "click". It just works itself out and there is no uneasiness.

More complex if things are strained. Some women just expect the guy to lay it on. The correlation of this and high income earners is high.

It is usually those that struggle a bit who are determined to pay their way and not become beholden to anyone. I really enjoy meeting these sort of women because they usually have life figured.

Posted by: whatcomesnext at December 8, 2007 6:34 PM

wishfulthinker03: well said!

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 6:13 PM

You sound slightly jaded there Babblon, we pay because we dont expect men to pay for us....equality and all that - being a nice guy doesn't have anything to do with the bill. I don't pay to neutralise anything, I figure I earn a good income, some men are struggling to restart lives, pay child support, rent/mortgage, whatever, why not contribute???

I don't think I owe anyone anything by going on a date, rarely feel guilty, and if he turns out to be a jerk, then I might just not offer to pay - consider it payment for wasting my time!

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at December 8, 2007 6:09 PM

Y'know what I really think when women pay?
They don't want to be there,they want to neutralise anything they might owe you in other words guiltyl for even going,because,well, you turned out to be a "nice" guy but go find someone else.

Posted by: babblon at December 8, 2007 5:35 PM

Babblon

You forgot a third option,

And if the woman chooses not to pay, that means she is completely indifferent to you (often misinterpreted by men as playing hard to get)

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 8, 2007 5:06 PM

Dear LynathDiary

I’m not here to debate, nor to tease, taunt or generally to incite a riot from the trailers. But why have you hidden those lovely photos of yours. I want one of those, with you in your Santa outfit, in my Xmas stocking. Santa never looked so good.

Posted by: neuroticfish at December 8, 2007 4:56 PM

misswendyxx

Have fun at your Christmas party !! Such a busy time of year.........but fun.

I have to get ready, psychologically, for my sons 19th tonight, including the 200 of his nearest and dearest he says he has invited !! Have been starving the g/shepherd all week in preparation for guard duty :)

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 8, 2007 4:36 PM

Imanenigma - My kids are immuned to my charm!!! As for the old counting to 123 well that never works, some how the little cherubs manage to get some extra numbers inbetween 1 and 3. Now imanenigma I am sure you would be on your best behaviour.....we wouldn't want to put you on the naughty chair would we now?

Slightsynchronicity - I love stealing my kids body boards....I'll have to get one for myself..it's so much fun.

I must fly out I have a christmas party to get ready for, drop kids to babysitter and whip up a dessert too!

Yes I know I am not on topic!

Posted by: misswendyxx at December 8, 2007 4:24 PM

Babblon..using your analogy if she pays she wants you in bed, and if you don't pay you want to go home alone....doesn't leave many options. Whatever happened to decent guys not expecting more than coffee, dinner or drinks on a first date?

I'm seriously hoping men honestly don't think because I pay for a coffee/dinner that I'm expecting to jump into bed with them???? Oh well, they'll be sadly disappointed :)

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at December 8, 2007 4:07 PM

Hi bloggers yeah this topic is getting a bit done to death. No offence but we should all get out of the house or something....play a game with our kids...or catch up with a friend. After changing the chat day from one day to another. It seems that my Cyber dreamy guy is gonna stand me up for the chat "date" we arranged cos he is busy doing other things on the computer. The cost of dating = cybercafes cost money and you also have to invest time in a relationship.
I just had a greatbody boarding time at the beach though.

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 3:54 PM

@misswendyxxx, Do you mean to say the little ones are impervious to your charm?....if you told me to jump I would say...how high!....or perhaps ignore you, chase & be chased by the kids or worse....hog the play station!.......until you started counting to three!....or sent me to my room, the naughty chair...or outside....maybe I would behave....how high did you say?...Imanenigma....P.S they started it!

Posted by: imanenigma at December 8, 2007 3:54 PM

Sunblonde - Does it really matter if the blogs get a little side tracked? Gosh if we all stuck to the rules how boring life would be. Yes it may seem like a private party going on in the blogs at times and I can understand that a new blogger might feel they can't join in. As Jenjen57 said it comes with the regular bloggers taking the topic as far as it can go. Take a look around, people are on the blogs to communicate with one another - that's what people do, it's inevitable that at times it will be off the topic. I don't see anyone posting long drawn out posts of their daily lives on here and if that was the case wouldn't the logical thing to do be to just scroll past. Perhaps if you added your take on the cost of dating it might spark some new enthusiasm.

Jovial67 - I am hearing you...my kids were happy playing the play station and the minute I log on and start writing this.......whamo, it's the same deal when you get on the phone..why is this???

Jenjen57 I am absolutely loving your posts...you sure have been blessed with the funny bone.

Posted by: misswendyxx at December 8, 2007 3:33 PM

hiddencharms,yes most people can not live in after 5 wear all go to fancy places and who wants to be on their very best behaviour all the time??? Surely its better to be natural definately.

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 3:23 PM

Just lost two posts...so this one may not be as clear. jovial67 I hope you don't think I was referring to anyone in particular with my comment about what I would do if I could afford to be extravagant like Karina the blog topic creator suggests.

Jen, well I would have complained about my 567,983 logins etc also plus the navigation of the site, but I was too dizzy. Nice comments.

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 3:10 PM

jovial67: I just sneaked a peak at your profile...mmmmm...champagne and dancing in the loungeroom...now there's a date!

Oh! That gorgeous smile makes up for typgraphical errors...We knew what you meant...

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 3:03 PM

Sorry my last post has so many typo's. I was typing whilst trying to prevent World War 3 with the kids :)

Posted by: jovial67 at December 8, 2007 2:52 PM

junebaby: As you have mentioned, in a world of rising costs, some of the most enjoyable and rewarding things are still free...and you can't put a price on good people, good company and a really good mood...

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 2:42 PM

Re costs of anything!!

Jenjen, thank you for your response!

Jovial67 and Hiddensharms, i agree with what you wrote about the dates and costs. and HC, gr8 taht you had a really good date. I have been to southbank twice on recent trips and love it.

Back to the cost of dating, and this is not the first coffee meet and greet, rirst date, keep it simple and fun.

have safe and happy christmas....jewels

Posted by: junebaby57 at December 8, 2007 2:20 PM

hiddencharms - I couldn't agree more that the nicest dates are the simple ones. I nice to hear that your date went well last night and Southbank is an excellent spot for it.

It's interesting that you mentioned "some of us don't have the some of us don't have the benefit of an ex who helps to support his child/ren". Sadly, this appears to be the case more often than not.

Posted by: jovial67 at December 8, 2007 1:59 PM

Babblon, I would love to answer that but I dont know who you are. You Cant even see your profile

Posted by: happycamper123 at December 8, 2007 1:56 PM

happycamper123.
are there men on this blog site or are they all like me

Posted by: babblon at December 8, 2007 1:43 PM

Dont ban anyone... yes the men write rubbish too!

I think its hilarious how seriously people take this online stuff. Get a life i say.

Posted by: happycamper123 at December 8, 2007 1:32 PM

kyotohilton: Ooooh....! We were cookin'....but the fires were burnin' within...

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 12:56 PM

to sunblonde and other recent pertinent comments.
I sit here reading some of this stuff that's bandied about here, and really wonder if a reply is worth it. It's very picky picky, trying to pick multiple profiles and whatever, people feeling the need to justify their existence and their every utterance.
Am I naive? Just don't get the point that's all.
This topic probably has been done to death, but with the ongoing male/female expectation stuff, not sure which century we're supposed to still be living in, and and some very limiting stuck role-playing viewpoints. Even saying all this, what sort of attack should I expect?
And reluctant to even post this. Who knows what sort of comments this will elicit?
Should I duck for cover now? or wait till my opinion is pulled to bits?

Posted by: today122 at December 8, 2007 12:53 PM

jenjen57

Yes thats the way to go. If a teenager is not depending on hand outs from you they will soon get a job. Unfortuanate they learn to be helpless by those that mean to do well. We need to help them use thier full potential to grow not hold them back by doing and givings everything to them in the name of love. Love and respect mutually comes from both paries pulling thier weight there are so many unhappy teenagers out there because they have not found their way, thier own way. Giving and taking is a learnt thing, how are they going to learn if we don't let them.

Posted by: mstingle at December 8, 2007 12:01 PM

hiddencharms

Thank you. It's all a lot of fun isn't it !!

And true.......you get to know someone much better when you are doing more ordinary things, than doing the all dressed up and on your best behaviour thing.

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 8, 2007 11:57 AM

babblon: Yes...a shandy at the Hamilton pub can be a bit expensive for some...

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 11:52 AM

Oh, and Jovial67: I did not mean for my last post to sound like a lecture...it is just my thoughts.

I went on a lovely date last night. We strolled through Southbank markets, watched the boats on the river, had steak and chips, sat on the grass and talked for hours, watching the city lights, the people and the water...really nice night out...OK, I know some of you will be gagging...fingers out of throats...!!!

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 11:50 AM

tell me about all my profiles?
I would like to know to

Just list them here go on !!

sunblonde you got that right ,I like it.

Posted by: babblon at December 8, 2007 11:47 AM

Go jenjen57! I love your style!

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 11:46 AM

jovial67: I'm sure most of us are quite used to juggling the budget, kids, mortgage (some of us don't have the benefit of an ex who helps to support his child/ren).

This is none of the reasons that many are saying that they are quite happy to go dutch or to share the costs, date for date. We understand that not everyobdy is made of money. I'm still looking for the buried treasure the real estate agent said was out in the back yard...

I also agree with the many others who have said that the nicest dates are the simple ones, where you can relax and enjoy each others' company-walks on the beach, throw bread to the ducks in the park, stroll through Southbank...a pizza and dvd...a bag of prawns and a bottle of wine...

Dating is about the quality of time and company and getting to know each other...It's nice to spoil each other and to share special occasions, but the "bird of paradise" syndrome can't last forever (even if it is nice) and I think it can create a false image if you are only seeing each other when all dressed up, choosing expensive restaurants and champers and being on your best behaviour...

Posted by: hiddencharms at December 8, 2007 11:45 AM

Oh my goodness me. It's on again! What a laugh. No truly, genuinely funny.
Have a good day goils, nice to have some of the inflamed views back here.

Posted by: trumanscat at December 8, 2007 11:44 AM

Babbleonly

Isn't Babblon the Guru of Enlightenment ?

With all your profiles it is hard to keep up ! But then i am a defensive embittered over 40 with a brain that has turned to mush because my hubby left me for another........

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 8, 2007 11:42 AM

ss ... its not just this blog ... its EVERY blog ... im sorry but they ARE a poor excuse for a chatroom for the selected few ... i must ask ... since when did it become compulsory to post a blog before you become entitled to read them ... ive not blogged before as i have had no desire to ... does that make my current comment any less valid? i dont think so! i will leave you all to days of ur rsvp lives ... i'm off to watch the bold and the beautiful ...

Posted by: sunblonde at December 8, 2007 11:39 AM

sunblonde I find it quite funny that you are complaining about the blog turning into a so called 'chat room', yet I haven't seen one blog from you on the topic of the cost of dating?

And fishbreath... YOU are the liar.. I got two emails from you.. the second one I ignored because you are way too freaky for me, and as for the line about not getting any dates? That one is hilarious.

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 8, 2007 11:31 AM

Now, back to the subject of the cost of dating.

It is getting very expensive,and I have become more selective in my approach.
If the woman pays on the first date it means she wants me in bed quick.
If I don't pay on the first date it means I wanna go home alone !!!!

Posted by: babblon at December 8, 2007 11:30 AM

sunblonde

The topic of the blog is rather inane and after only 5 days seems to have been done to death, with most of us agreeing that, at the beginning anyway, we pay our own way.

For me, all the personal messages, discussing of bruised egos, unmotivated teenagers etc, are what makes it interesting, and also gives insight into our fellow bloggers.

If that is not the case for you, suggest you don't read the blogs at all, or only read the bits that are on topic.

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 8, 2007 11:27 AM

Timewarp1.
I did not commute your sentence for sexist behaviour because I think you are too feeble and past it.(that would be ageist wouldn't it?)
It's quite obvious you are not feeble, don't know about infirm...
Since the topic was about sexist views,I meant that certain social norms and behaviours are ingrained in each generation and therefore if they act on those beliefs or behaviours then they should not be punished for that. My comment about letting you off with a warning was not taken seriously by me.... and I think you you picked up the humour intended.

At the same time there is always room to learn something new in life and view the world differently.
My issue is not that you are annoyed with the non-repliers. I can't agree more with you on that one.
I was only referring to the words you used such as "little sweetheart" as being demeaning.(in this context) to women. Sweetheart in a romantic setting is lovely.

In the case of women blocking you (or men) perhaps they do it in order to prevent unsolicited emails? I know I have received them even after I have said "no thanks." so sometimes I do that if I get a feeling they might try...less embarrassing for all and prevents men wasting stamps.

Motherly advice?...sorry professional...I[ll bill you later.....

I refer to your latest post with the inference that any woman with an opinion must have PMT or have a problem elsewhere. Not so.
That is a classic put down to belittle women's ideas. Some females resort to labelling with names such as 'bitch' or 'vindictive' or 'argumentative' and "shrew" for women who advocate change and new ways of thinking.Women are their own worst enemy sometimes The Shakespearean Shrew (love her) was an early crusader for womens rights...

Riversong..I and "She with a Patience Fixation who can't be named" I keep forgetting that the blogs here aren't a place for lively debate (which needs a bit of provocation to stimulate discussion and thinking ,and is expected to be rebutted)
Note to Diary: Best write only what others want to agree with, never what you really think...can't be honest otherwise men might not want to pay anymore or you might be labelled a shrew or a bitch.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 8, 2007 11:27 AM

sunblonde
I agree with you, maybe we should have a chat room for all the off topic comments.
I would think it would be more exciting that this cr**py excuse for communication.
Maybe we could all start our own topics
"My Wisdom teeth and dating"
"How I lost my Hair"
"Are all men bad"

sundblonde................just watch the ginger.

Posted by: babblon at December 8, 2007 11:26 AM

Posted by: riversong1 at December 7, 2007 11:59 PM - That's what blogs are all about - to hear what different people think.

i wholeheartedly agree riversong ... however i would have thought it was to hear what people thought regarding the topic of the blog ... forgive me but i fail to see how cryptic (or not so cryptic as the case may be) personal messages, organising a social get together (or dissecting a previous one) ... let alone bruised egos or wisdom teeth ... can be remotely associated with the cost of dating ...

call me naive but i didnt realise the purpose of a blog was to double as a chat room ... could i suggest the use of facebook or msn ... or ... better still ... start a webpage ... friendsofrsvp.com ... a more appropriate place to prattle on about petty paranoias, who's attempting to flirt with whom and forthcoming social activities ... without the resultant alienation of other members of this site who may have once upon a time found the blogs interesting ...

Posted by: sunblonde at December 8, 2007 11:17 AM

I guess this is a really a new thread or whatever u call it... about junebaby57's teen on the couch!

Hope things got better for u since u posted. I had one who dropped out in Y11 and took almost 2 yrs to come good, although he did work for about half that time. A friend who has done lots of youth work said that he'd probably have to hit rock bottom before he'd see the light. What actually happened was that he and several of his mates had a bit of an epiphany last Septemeber and realised that the gap year was ending and it was time to start growing up. He is now in full time work, is a young adult and has made his parents very proud.

I see you have a 22 yo - can the older sibling help? And the car? Did he buy it or was it bought for him? If the latter then it's not his to sell. And I realise there could be a very good reason for there to be no dad around, but is there any other mature male relative or friend who could help. Don't worry about the takeaways and endless gaming - he'll survive it and if he meets a girl he'll lift his act.

I suspect single mum's with teenage boys is probably a helluva bigger challenge than single dad's with teenage daughters. Good luck junebaby57.

Posted by: snowman9 at December 8, 2007 11:16 AM

junebaby

Have had similar experiences with my teenager over the last year. Dropped out of TAFE, lost his license, car and credit card debts, working part time. I found talking to him about it to be a waste of breath. At 18/19 he thinks he knows it all. He is a good kid, just lacking in direction and purpose. But after a year of me refusing to support him financially and seeing all his friends out doing things, and having money to buy things, he has seen the light and has finally got a fulltime job.

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 8, 2007 11:09 AM

morning all

where can we talk about the kids, and the costs going out of control and how much is reasonable or not!!!

am having a very bad morning with the teenage son, who thinks he doesn't have to work, he thinks that he really dosen't need money!!! he is a casual and does some evening shifts at coles, he hates it, but all kids need to start somewhere...right??? so his answer is just sell his car as he doesn't want it, and he will catch 2 or 3 buses to Tafe next year, and not to mention rego and tafe fees that need to be paid!!! He thinks that he doesn't want games anymore, after he has been getting them regularly and they are usually $100.00 a game!!!

And he eats heaps of takeaway....

He does need a job, how to get this thru to him!!!

I am at my wits end!!!!

Posted by: junebaby57 at December 8, 2007 10:57 AM

hey lynath........you dont like the word allow, well then u insert one that fits......... and then have it taken out of context............

Posted by: twoeyes at December 8, 2007 10:47 AM

slightsynchronicity

Good morning......you got the blogs loaded........and my emails to RSVP did the trick !!

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 8, 2007 10:16 AM

Yes misswendyxx I don't think you pay enough. jovial67 tell about mortgages! : )) I'm on a budget too.I understand the whole property settlement woes and no I don't want to go on about my ex and what he did not pay for the kids. If I had it, i would spend it that's all, sometimes. Fish and chips at the beach and other simple things are great...and maybe better even. ijst54, sorry i think i may have written ljst54 previously but you don't seem to have minded. ijst54 that is such a funny comment how nice of you. Its a man or nothing for me if I was looking : ) Oh darn it if I had the money I would be extravagant with friends (I do not actually have this income yet..it is a very remote and unlikely possibility, if I got organised in my field when I finish at uni) ijst54 that is such a funny comment. I have to do the Briggs Myer test I guess. You bloggers are so

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 10:04 AM

Well here goes and hi to everyone reading my first post, not only for this blog but for any blog at all. Some may remember there first post as a little daunting as I am right now. However I am going to give it ago, realising that not everyone will be on the same wavelenght as I and will have to accept the negatives along with the poitives. Now on to the topic at hand:)

Cost of dating:

I nearly did not join becuase I am one that has limited finances available for dating due to the fact that I am a single mother and uni student who decided to go to uni so that I would be financially secure in the future. So like it or not for me to date I would have to rely on good old fashioned genorosity of a gentleman. (If there are men out there that cannot afford to send emails then I do feel for them, they obviously joined to meet someone as well so I hope they do find someone)

However I would not send a kiss to anyone that I was not truely interested in recieving an email from to begin with.

I would if the emailing or chats that were kindly paid for by the male, then take it to the next stage and meet for coffee. If a man comfortably paid for the coffee without a hint of concern over having to pay for the coffee, I would be truely appreciative. Over coffee I would then decide do I agree to meet up for a second date if asked. I would only do so if I found that I truely liked the company of this person and felt that he enjoyed my company equally.

Would I be the same way if I had the finaces to pay for myself on a date? I will be honest and say no! I would still like to meet a male that paid for the dates and I say this because I do not believe in going dutch because I find that when I have been in past relationships, if I was really into someone I would probably end up as many women doing spending so much time and money on playing host at my place and cooking and doing the usually things that many genouros women like myself do.

I would not want to go dutch and then have all the expenses of entertain some times at my place. I think that some men forget when they want to go dutch that they are getting many things from the woman in many other ways. There are so many ways a woman has to pay and the expenses on grooming and dressing and that is not just for herself it is for the eyes and benefit of the male appart from entertaining.

I can go on a bit so I will stop for now. All I know is that I am giving RSVP a go in the hope that I will meet a man who will truely appriciate me for my positives and not look for what I do not have.

Posted by: mstingle at December 8, 2007 9:45 AM

slightsynchronicity - You are right that being stingy is not attractive. I don't regard myself as stingy, but, like many of us on this site, I have to watch my budget. After paying child support (no deadbeat dad here!) and mortgage repayments, there isn't too much left over.

Posted by: jovial67 at December 8, 2007 9:08 AM

slightsynchrocity...I'll go out with you....

Posted by: istj54 at December 8, 2007 8:56 AM

Slightsynchronicity is that a hint you need a payrise for doing my ironing?

Posted by: misswendyxx at December 8, 2007 8:49 AM

Morning everyone. Lost a nice unsaved post on Friend or Lover. So here is my thought. If I had $500 or so spare to lash out on a date I would. In the future if spending $500 was not a problem for me to enjoy a special night I would. If I earned more money by some stroke of fate, It would not be just about ending up in either his or my bedroom. I certainly would not take or wish to be taken to a sporting event for a romantic evening. Could work for others. In case my comment gets misconstrued -unlikely on this blog : )) it did not refer to procurement of services or anything like that. If I had the disposable income to spare and I wanted to express it, I would. My thought this morning, I would do it.

Back to reality you go with the flow and see whats appropriate the time and are not there calculating and keeping tabs. Being stingy is not attractive. What goes around comes around. Give with out thinking of the outcome for yourself but for the pleasure of making the loved one happy.
EverSoSlightlyOutofWhack

Posted by: slightsynchronicity at December 8, 2007 8:36 AM

SeraphSuzie

Stop being 2faced.

Earl invited you to an Elvis Impersonators convention at a time when you said everyone else refused to date you. He even offered you a spare Elvis wig and Elvis gear.

C'mon now girl, be honest for once.

Posted by: neuroticfish at December 8, 2007 6:26 AM

Thelynathdiary:

I've been favourably impressed with many of your past postings, and was touched to receive your motherly advice tonight about my finances. Thank you.

But I was surprised that you saw as "thinly veiled" my hostility to the FEW women whose response to kisses from me was NOT to say courteously "Email please" (30%), not to courteously say "No way, Jose" (35%), not to DIScourteously ignore me (30%), but to use the clicks that could have said "Get lost", to silently block me instead.

Yes, I am ancient, TLD, and not still at the spineless floating amoeba stage. So I don't care if it's Blogland, Internet Dating Land, DanceLand or La La Land: I am the same person, with the same personal standards of politeness for myself, and the (realistically lower) same standards of politeness that I expect from others, whereever they or I happen to be located at the moment.

So when those adjective-free persons do that to me, I can't help feeling really annoyed at being so egocentrically and blatantly snubbed, and I intended that to show loud and clear in the item that you criticised. (Actually it was only in there as an in-joke for waterbombe, and was flagged as such.)

But I do respectfully thank yer Honour for letting me off with a stern caution, either because your standards of RSVP (double entendre intended) behaviour are lower than mine, or out of respect for my age and resultant inability to keep up with (ie. fall backwards into) these self-indulgent times.

I was especially grateful to be treated so leniently yer Honour, when I saw how much more critical you were of everyone else in sight.

I'm guessing that you got a real slap in the face today, over there in real life land, so bad that the fallout came flying over the border tonight into Blogland, like Chernobyl.

I hope you'll soon be able to respond directly to your attacker, so that you won't feel the need to keep taking it out on Baby Leroy instead. (T.A. for Kids, 1970s)

Or if your problem was actually PMT, my daughters say Evening Primrose Oil is very good, if taken early enough.

In either case, try to solve it, not spray it.

Posted by: timewarp1 at December 8, 2007 3:15 AM

seraphsusie:

You've had a bad day. Wisdom teeth can be hell, without the worry about your dad, and then some stuff on this blog tonight that was the last straw. Best wishes to you both.

Actually, one of my wisdom teeth was not so bad at all. It was impacted - the x-ray showed that it needed sawing into 4 bits, to pull out in turn in 4 different directions.

So my dentist sent me to an oral surgeon. He wouldn't let me drive into town on the day, and demanded my bride come to collect me afterwards.

His nurse gave me a pre-med capsule "to relax you", ahead of a zillion local anaesthetic needles that I hardly felt. Tooth eventually out, half-hour lie down, cuppa tea, then Joan came to take me down to the tram.

By the time we got out of the lift I was right off with the fairies - determined to waltz her down the footpath 2 blocks to the Stop. She was a shy girl, and had to kick me in the shins (a moving target) several times to settle me down. But I sang in the tram for 20 minutes.

Later my dentist told me those "giggle pills" were wonderful - when he'd gone to collect his ever-so-prim touch-me-not sister-in-law, she gave him a big hug and a sloppy kiss on the mouth. That was the 60s - bet they're illegal now, whatever they were.

Posted by: timewarp1 at December 8, 2007 1:04 AM

To All and Sundry..
ATTENTION! ATTENTION ! ATTENTION!
Blogging publicly leads to dating cost saving in direct proportion to how much of your thoughts and opinions you reveal, and moreso how they are read(and that is the only communication possible here)
I am quite sure that as a result of these blogs I will be struck from the favourite list of at least a few thus saving me any unsavoury dating dilemmas or cost sharing for at least a week.(ODE I give you permission to use that in your next publication).. a form of dating suicide ...

1. My names not Patience
2. Not Lynath either....

3. SeraphSuzie has a fixation on "Patience" who a hundred years ago offered her some kindly meant advice in the spirit of support.
4. Patience did not insult anyone's mother..again misconstrued

5. Sue said some very nasty bullying things on many occasions to many people prior to Patience responding.
So things are not always as they seem
6. I am not a shrew...although I do admire her spirit! Feisty... that is what they would call her now. Where is my shrew tamer?

Yes waterbombe sometimes I try to provoke some form of discussion other than which Pub would be best for random bloggers meetings.

7 and most important...Suzie I think you have an inflated idea of your own importance. I am not "out to get you", I do not think about you at all I can assure you.. your fixation on this is a bit of a worry.
Defend yourself? You have been one of the biggest bullies of all to many people over time.

Riversong..I will name personally if I am responding to that persons comments.

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 8, 2007 12:38 AM

"Just ignore them and carry on discussing the topic of the blog. After all aren't we all above he/she and their game??
Just my opinion...
Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 6, 2007 10:05 PM"
oh ... my mistake ... this must be the "what a crappy day i had" blog?
Reading/writing hotline 1300 6555 06

Posted by: sunblonde at December 8, 2007 12:23 AM

Ok well I have had it for the night.. am off to bed.. first take some painkillers.. and then off to Newcastle to see my Dad in the morning..

Sweet dreams all xxoo

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 8, 2007 12:18 AM

thanks waterbombe.. I know that is true.. I just don't get why someone has to be like that toward someone they don't even know.. Earl is just playing games.. Patience isn't..Games do not bother me...Vindictiveness does...

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 8, 2007 12:15 AM

You have had a tough day Suzie, and I can see that that personal crap does get to you, especially when you feel bad to start with. But just because games are personal doesn't stop them from being games....and the only way to stop games, personal or otherwise, is to refuse to play.

Now I just have to listen to myself....

Posted by: waterbombe at December 8, 2007 12:07 AM

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. We all have different opinions. We all see from different points of view. That's what blogs are all about - to hear what different people think.

It's how we state it that makes a difference. It's one thing to just say what you think. It's something else again to name people personally and tell them what they're saying is a load of bull (because you think differently).
It doesn't "teach" them anything - just provokes a lot of hostility.

Posted by: riversong1 at December 7, 2007 11:59 PM

Yes sunblonde.. I said that.. I was talking about multiple profiles.. I wasn't talking about LynathDiary.. or Patience.. if you have been reading the blogs for the last six months you would understand. No matter what you say to Patience she will always have some sarcastic remark if she doesn't agree with you. She doesn't play games.. she is personal.. There is a difference. So perhaps get your facts straight before commenting about something you obviously do not know the history of?

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 7, 2007 11:55 PM

Hang in there Suzie, you will get to the other side of all this, tomorrow is a better day. Don't let the silly stuff get you down. some people aren't worth wasting your energy on.

Posted by: dolphin46 at December 7, 2007 11:49 PM

Oh dear ... someone else is into scrapbooking ...

"Can I just give a little advice peoples? You don't have to read it.. but I will say it anyway.. these multiple profiles and people whoever they are? ( I really have no idea who is who or what is who) They really want you to bite back at them.. don't you all get it? They feed off your attention.. so the less attention you give them they have no audience and will probably give up. But you guys biting back are just perpetuating what is happening. Just ignore them and carry on discussing the topic of the blog. After all aren't we all above he/she and their game??
Just my opinion...
Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 6, 2007 10:05 PM"

reading rsvp blobs ... gee i must be bored!

Posted by: sunblonde at December 7, 2007 11:45 PM

waterbombe I haven't quoted you at all? And yeah I was talking about Earl.. and his ranting and raving blogs.. Patience is n't a bully.. shes a shrew.... who cannot take NO for an answer when someone says they don't want her advice. Plus she insulted my MOther... THAT was personal. Not some idiot guy who doesn't know who he is and says stupid things to people. When Patience is around.. I don't like to blog.. because 9 times out of 10 she will have some stupid comment about something I have said. She never fails... And no what she says doesn't interest me.. but when she starts insulting me THEN I take an interest. I have had a really sh*tty day... with my wisdom tooth and my Dad is in hospital.. and I really don't feel the need to explain my actions when it comes to Patience.. she has been on my case for months. I come on here to enjoy myself and write my opinions.. I don't need some bitter woman taking her bitterness out on me.
I apologise for ranting and so on and so forth.. but I am really over her and her attitude towards me. I just her to back off..

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 7, 2007 11:42 PM

hang on, seraphsuzie, while we are quoting each other, have a read of this:

Yeah but HC.. you just have to be the bigger person thats all.. My Mum always told me to ignore the bullies at school be cause eventually they would get bored and start on someone else. It was true. Bullies are not worthy of anyones attention. The more you bite back the worse it gets... I just don't read any of what whoever it is writes.. doesn't interest me in the least.. I am here to communicate with other people about dating.. and get to know them. I really could not give a rats about some idiot who has nothing better to do then prattle on about nothing worth anything!!

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 6, 2007 10:21 PM

Thelynathdiary just seems to want to provoke arguments whatever blog she has been on, so have a listen to your mum.

Posted by: waterbombe at December 7, 2007 11:32 PM

waterbombe.. if you don't like it don't read it.. simple... I have the right to defend myself if I need too..

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 7, 2007 11:21 PM

thelynathdiary

If you knew me then you would know I would never do or say anything in an attempt to humiliate you or anyone else. A lot of the comments I posted here yesterday were very tongue in cheek, and were misconstrued by some.
When I said I agreed with you 110 %, 12.23am last night, I genuinely meant it.

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 7, 2007 11:17 PM

girls girls girls leave it out or take it off the blogs, it's not nice and no one else wants to listen to it.

Back to the topic...hermanhesse..well, in the beginning, I did buy stamps and I sent emails to men in order to be equal. You know, principles with a capital P. But then I ran out of stamps for a while, and wasn't really looking seriously so I didn't buy any more, and that's when I noticed that if guys are attracted, they will initiate contact. It's not that I expected them to, and I didn't expect them to pay for a date, either - I like to pay half - but I think men are more comfortable making the first move. It doesn't sit quite so well with women to do that, we feel a bit pushy. I know, I know, it's 2007...but I reckon this is still a common attitude. So give the girls a break, guys, it isn't actually the same situation for both sexes, even though being male or female should ideally make no difference.

Posted by: waterbombe at December 7, 2007 11:14 PM

Patience don't play coy.. you know you have it in for me. .You always have.. stop with the crap.. and really just leave me out of your sarcastic blogs and holy than thou advice you dish out..

Can you not understand plain english?? LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't disagree with me for any other reason then you are just being bitchy.. I DONT WANT ANY LESSONS FROM YOU... is that perfectly clear to you now????

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 7, 2007 10:55 PM

Suzie ...here's a thought...read what you write before you post...I would have thought that was a helpful lesson for someone studying "communication and media studies'

If I feel like posting an opinion or entering a discussion I will. I will respond to whatever and whomever I like..even you if you tempt me ...
Please try to realise that just because you don't like or agree with something on a public website it doesn't mean you need to be personally affronted. Why not post an opinion of your own rather than silly childish remarks.
Jenjen you should also realise that if you are willing to write in public then you must be prepared for a response , good or bad.
Far better than attempting to humiliate people by leading them to think you support an idea whenyou don't wouldn't you say?

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 7, 2007 10:46 PM

Yep Jenjen you are right there.. I am sure she will leave again.... it seems for the most part we are not adult enough for her... I guess this is where I poke my tongue out? hehe ;-)

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 7, 2007 10:22 PM

Herman...I buy 'em and use 'em happily. But then again, I also have no objection to paying for dinner, drinks or whatever either, I don't see why it should be, in this day of equality (well in theory anyway), that the guy should be forever putting his hand in his wallet.

As for kisses, rarely would I send one that I didn't hope I'd have a reply to - but then again, that's just me. And yes...I'm female!!!

Posted by: wishfulthinker03 at December 7, 2007 10:21 PM

Suzie

At least you are in good company.......riversong1, timewarp, twoeyes. and myself, we are there with you...... :)

Posted by: jenjen57 at December 7, 2007 10:13 PM

herman hesse that is something we would all like to know. I buys stamps so that is 1 so far.

woodnwine please do inform us. someone called you a try hard? I do recall you sniggering and saying I was "lost wandering in a field probably disorientated" not long ago when you thought you were safe.
I was really disappointed in you..the love and light preacher complete with drum or talking stick or whatever that thing is between your legs that you constantly play with...

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 7, 2007 9:59 PM

Patience you can act like such a shrew ... You just never give up where I am concerned do you?
I was under the impression you had left the blogs never to return.. that's twice now..
Leave me out of your blogs.. I want nothing to do with you.. I have purposely skipped over anything you write.. until now when I see my name.. and your sarcastic comments. Bugger off and leave me alone.

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 7, 2007 9:58 PM

Seraphsuzie.."it's all about equality of humanity not just about equality of men and women"... I was unaware there was anyone/thing but men and women in the human species .....learn something everyday...

Riversong1 equality in a relationship has nothing to do with attraction or being the same age, height, weight race etc.
Of course men and women are different and that is to be celebrated.

It is silly to try to align equality with physical impossibilities, and that just weakens being taken seriously.
Your comment "I don't want to be a man, I enjoy being a woman" in the context of the discussion really says "Yes, I believe I am not as worthy as man and I am happy handing over my power to a man whether to pay for my dinner or dictate my life because even though I am more than capable I don't want to take responsibility for myself as a grown woman. In addition, I feel if I don't play the role of the helpless dependent female, men might not like me"
Your obvious description of what your marriage/child raising experiences were like has nothing to do with equality, but everything to do with failing to negotiate as an equal partner.

The idea of men being forced into paying a ransom or insurance policy in the form of a dinner bill in order to secure a second date is abhorrent to me. Does it go hand in hand with witholding sex later on if you don't get your own way?

Timewarp1..due to your age group and attitudes being well ingrained I will let you off with a severe warning...referring to women in tones of sarcasm or contempt such as " the little sweetheart" and 'responseless darlings" will come across in your real life attitudes and sensible women will stay away from barely veiled hostility.
I suggest that you contact your local Ministry of Housing Office and put in an application for housing now.
www.housing.qld.gov.au/
and if you haven't done it already contact Centrelink to see if you qualify for rental or other assistance.

twoeyes you are digging in deeper...I am not offended personally as I don't know you.
I am so pleased that you like the idea of women being "allowed" by a man to make a choice.

happycamper123 ..I agree equality does not mean meeting half way in the literal sense...!!

englishteacher if you are still here I am sorry I made a spelling error last night...

Posted by: thelynathdiary at December 7, 2007 9:46 PM

On a slightly different subject. What is the percentage of women who spend stamps compared to men ? What is the ratio of GENUINE kisses from women compared to GENUINE kisses from men ? (This does not count kisses where you simply admire their sense of humour etc and do not expect any serious correspondence).

Posted by: hermanhesse at December 7, 2007 9:45 PM

Hey Woody why don't you just leave it signed in at all times? I don't blog as often as you do but as yet never had a problem with posting.

Posted by: abckenny at December 7, 2007 9:37 PM

Seraphsuzie, great piece, I believe you have hit the nail on the head. Malessa

Posted by: malessa at December 7, 2007 9:02 PM

RSVP - I am sick of having to sign in so many times every time I want to comment no matter what computer I am using so for the moment I give up. The comments aren't very informed anyway. And someone called me "try hard". ha bloody ha.

Posted by: woodnwine at December 7, 2007 8:46 PM

Of course we are!!...."it would be money well spent if I was twenty years younger".....ah grasshopper, now you are learning!....it would indeed be money well spent......IMANENIGMA

Posted by: imanenigma at December 7, 2007 8:22 PM

Oh dear, and I thought we were friends...I was just trying to be helpful...you are anenigma aren't you?

But, hey, it would be money well spent if I was twenty years younger.

Posted by: istj54 at December 7, 2007 7:53 PM

Do I want a second date?....Pay the money!.... Mmmmm....is that by the hour, Madam Lash?....Oh, sorry ...my mistake!....sounded all very "business" like. I wonder if the love of my life(when I find her) will appreciate me if I have squandered all my "hard earned" on meeting a whole bunch of boring ,none charming,out for what they can mooch,hard arse, dead ends! Hey!, if you are all stunning and drop dead gorgeous with the personality to match, it is money and time well spent!! If not?.............maybe you should be making the investment, eh?....Hows them apples!!........can I right someone elses name in here!!! lol......IMANENIGMA

Posted by: imanenigma at December 7, 2007 7:39 PM

What distance true love?

I'd crawl over hot coals for thousands of kilometres......would you believe....hundreds of miles?.....tens of metres?...a few feet?....not at all?...too hard!...who needs love in their lives anyways?

What IS true love??? Do any of us know?

And I'm going to take myself out to dinner tonight and order the most expensive dish on the menu..even if I hate it...and when the bill comes just slip out the back, jack!! They'll be looking for a man......

At least insist on paying, guy. Do you want a second date, or what? Make the investment if you are serious.

Posted by: istj54 at December 7, 2007 6:36 PM

Hey I recently dated a guy who wanted to alternate paying for the dates. That was fine but he also wanted to have the dates somewhere right in the middle of where we lived... so we where equal. I have to say it really put me off. I think some people take this equality on dates business a little too far.

Posted by: happycamper123 at December 7, 2007 6:25 PM

What distance true love?

Posted by: imanenigma at December 7, 2007 5:59 PM

@thelynathdiary- I totally agree,well said!...@grace and charm- I agree with you too-If I care for someone, I will gladly give my heart & soul, for I have learnt never to under value a persons love!...but with just meeting someone, first date etc it takes a little or a lot of time for a person to earn my generosity,my trust and my love!...I just dont want my date to "expect" anything or take me for granted! and I will show her the same courtesy......IMANENIGMA

Posted by: imanenigma at December 7, 2007 5:57 PM

graceandcharm, Whilst I agree with femalepersuasion that you certainly are gorgeous, and I'd be more than happy to pay for YOUR breakfast, lunch and dinner , I'm not so sure about the extra carbon emissions produced due to the long distance travel required to meet each other. Sometimes it's tough having a social conscience... :)

Posted by: jovial67 at December 7, 2007 5:16 PM

Hhhmm mushie6, don't think the thought hasn't crossed my mind! (might be kind of nice to have a "wife" at home to look after all the boring stuff and hey, dating dutch could be cheap good fun too)!

Posted by: riversong1 at December 7, 2007 4:14 PM

I understand Bill and I do sincerely hope you find her.

Posted by: mushie6 at December 7, 2007 3:09 PM

Jovial67: I'd pay for your breakfast,lunch and dinner anyday!!

Posted by: graceandcharm at December 7, 2007 3:05 PM

Thanks mushie6 but I think our current romantic goals are different. I'm not looking for another traditional live-together marriage/relationship at the moment - just something like what I had with my 2002-2003 girlfriend, but now with someone who's nicer, and less cruel to third parties.

After an expensive divorce and then a later bankructcy only paid back 3 years ago, I have no life savings. I need to work for at least another 5 years, hopefully 10, and it has to be from this low-rent half house and large goods store/workshop underneath.

Cost me my last $3000 to move here in 2005 and weeks lost from earning, while packing and unpacking. When I moved before in 1999 I enskipped about 20 cubic metres, but my house is still 3/4 full of archive boxes that I currently haven't time to reprocess into a smaller number.

So no room for Her here - not even a double bed. My old double divan is on end under the house - couldn't get it in the front door. Must sell it when I've got a moment.

So it's got to be her place not mine, and because I need to be back at mine about 3 working days and 2 or 3 very long working evenings a week, it's got to be a part-time relationship, with me commuting between, at least every second day.

So to save petrol and more importantly my time, she's got to live within commuting range. Until I can sell the business and retire to a full-time relationship, preferably still within range of my 2 Brisbane daughters and many Brisbane friends and hobbies.

The Nuclear (isolated) marriage doesn't work - each partner has to supply too much of the other's emotional inrastructure 24/7. Look how many marriages fail soon after the extra time together starts, upon retirement.

I plan to stay in Brisbane, and I'm looking for someone whose emotional infrastructure is also anchored here.

And yes - I am looking for a woman with fewer years on the clock than me, with no apologies. I've met enough women already - a hundred from 55 to 75 (I'm 72 next week) to see that all but 2 of the over 65s have been physically and mentally noticeably older than me.

I'm looking for my equal in as many areas as possible, and calendar age is irrelevant. Two women even older than me were miles younger in the head and in the legs, and I know I'd never be able to keep up with them. Good luck with both of your much younger new partners, girls.

And if my mutual choice can't even cook or work a washing machine, I've already taught my Ex back in 1964, so that I wouldn't have to keep doing it myself all the time forever - only half the time.

Sorry everyone else - I just noticed that all this had nothing to do with the cost of dating BEFORE you commence the relationship proper. (Or preferably, very improper.) So it should have cost me a stamp direct to mushie. And look at the time! Get back to earning this week's overdue rent, Bill!

Posted by: timewarp1 at December 7, 2007 1:38 PM

riversong1.. I enjoy being a woman also but given the chance I might come back as a man.. I did say 'might'.

Posted by: mushie6 at December 7, 2007 12:36 PM

graceandcharm, you've actually made a very good point there. With the right person, generosity knows no bounds.

Posted by: jovial67 at December 7, 2007 10:17 AM

now thats probably the truest word here for awhile

Posted by: twoeyes at December 7, 2007 11:36 AM

Riversong in my circle of friends, with the exception of breast feeding, things are split equeally! nappies, dinner and housework. And once on the bottle, assuming both partners are working, the feeding gets split as well.
Different generations have different social norms.
I'm certain in 25 years time I will tut tuting with back in my day comments, whilst generation Z (or whatever) looks at my views as being archaic.

Posted by: emualex at December 7, 2007 10:28 AM

graceandcharm, you've actually made a very good point there. With the right person, generosity knows no bounds.

Posted by: jovial67 at December 7, 2007 10:17 AM

I think it is all about equality of humanity.. not equality between men and women. I think every human on the planet should be treated as equally as th e other regardless of sex, race or religion. I agree riversong.. it is called acceptance.. Accepting that not everyone is the same, not everyone does things the same way or thinks or feels the same. That each person has their own strengths and weaknesses. However it is not always easy to accept people the way they are.. I think that is one of the hardest lessons in life to learn.. not only to accept yourself and your own limitations but also of those around you.

Posted by: seraphsuzie at December 7, 2007 9:32 AM

Ha ha ha mushie6! Was that a faux pas?: RSVP, catching worms - that made me giggle!

Posted by: riversong1 at Decem